I think Lupin was bisexual. I think Sirius was his one big love. I think he cared for Tonks, but it seemed he never cared for her as much as Sirius. Because the books were through the perspective of a teenager, I love that its an unspoken relationship.
I took it less about Remus not caring for Tonks as much as he did for Sirius, just more so as Tonks saw that he was hurting after Order of the Pheonix and their relationship developed due to that.
Didn't both Gary Oldman and David Thewlis say they were shocked when they found out that Remus married Tonks because they thought their characters were dating, or was that just a rumor? Personally, I really ship Wolfstar, even though I do like Remus/Tonks, and Tonks in general (also, Teddy).
I'm a big Wolfstar shipper, because of when the Maurauders first were intruduced! Sirius just seemed so uninterested in girls and then they were living together and all the other positive aspects...I was in! It's basically canon for me. I love Wolfstar, but I also like the pairing Remus x Tonks! In a world where Sirius died, I could totall see them comforting each other and falling in love. (Remus is bisexual headcanon)
when I was younger, the books were pretty much like the bible for me and I belived in sola scriptura. so I really didn't think much about Remus and Sirius as potential lovers - or in fact any gay pairing. However, when I first stumbled over Wolfstar online, the appeal of it was immediately obvious. I think that Sirius, too, is heavily queercoded and I am completely unable to see him as straight. I also headcanon him to have had a crush James for a while, until he realized that his feelings for James were brotherly and he started to spend more time with Remus. so yeah I definitely ship it!
Wolfstar is my longest-running primary ship. Most ships I look at, read and run out of content or I lose interest. The sheer amount of wide-ranging fanfictions for wolfstar is impressive. You could be in the mood for any one type of fanfiction, be it fluff, pure smut, AU, or angst... and wolfster can supply you in abundance. It was the fandom that got me into it. From what I remember, I wanted to explore the Marauders era, but I was dissatisfied with the romance fics taking away from the group dynamics of the four... except wolfstar. Wolfstar fics generally stayed within the group and even if James and Peter are not there (but they usually are)... two of the four are. So I searched specifically for them. I then expanded into other eras for the pair, the first wizarding war era, post-azkaban, bring back black AUs, raising harry AUs and then finally to pure AUs. I generally dislike AUs that go pure AU because part of the reason why I read them is for the universe, but some of these writers are the best I've ever seen in any fandom. Ever. These authors can pull gold from a rabbit's arse. Personally, I'm okay with Tonks. I do like her and her relationship with Remus, but I think it is a missed opportunity with Sirius representation-wise. ...and yes I think wolfstar should have been the one to be revealed to be a thing over grindeldore. Not that I have a problem with old dumbles being gay its just... tragic how the only official gay character is of a main ship with such an abusive arsehole The whole "let slip to snape" thing with Remus' secret is context-less. We have no idea what actually happened and if it was an accident or on purpose. I've read some fantastic fics which have ingenious ways in how it could have been accidental. Alternatively, I have also read fics which explores Sirius being forced to grow up after the event and learn from the mistake with some severe consequences for him
Always and forever OTP! I do wish it was canon but I also don't trust JKR to write it, given she doesn't seem to understand why people ship it? Plus as much as I love Tonks as a character and don't mind Tonks/Remus, I really don't like the way they come together in the book - the whole thing with Tonks losing her powers because she's so sad about a dude is gross, and then to have Molly & Arthur discussing Remus & Tonks' private lives like it's any of their business in front of all the kids? UGH UGH UGH (also your hair looks awesome!)
Claire Rousseau so I am not the only one who doesn’t trust her But you know who I do trust The person who wrote a fanfic called Casting Moonshadows and also Harry Potter and the Marauders of the Mind They both include wolfstar
Personally, I really liked Lupin & Tonks, but I totally can see the potential of Wolfstar, and hell, why not? I'll ship it too. Here's MY narrative of the events. Tonks harbored a secret unrequited love for Lupin, but he was in a loving relationship with Sirius; they've loved each other since they were boys. But then Sirius dies and Lupin is devastated. All through the next year, Tonks does her best to guide him through his grief and as time passes, he grows to care for her. But then she makes the mistake of confessing her feelings too soon and spooking him off, as he's not completely ready to move on from Sirius. Then at the end of the 6th book, when Tonks confronts Lupin in front of the others, he realizes that even if he doesn't love her as much as he did Sirius, he does care and love her in a different way, plus he doesn't want to be alone anymore. So he marries her, and his love for her grows. And while he knows that Sirius will always be his one true love, he's made his peace with his death and is happy with his wife, whom he loves, although of course he's anxious about their son. This headcannon came to me thanks to my mom, who told me that while she dearly loves my stepdad (she wouldn't put up with his bullshit if she didn't), she would always consider my dad the love of her life, it just didn't work out because reasons. It resonates with the story potential in this little love triangle. It makes sense to me since I don't see why Wolfstar and Lunks (I don't know their official couple name) can't be in the same cannon since Tonks didn't reveal her feelings until after Sirius 's death. It doesn't put down Lupin 's relationships with Sirius and Tonks or claims that one is superior over the other (unless you count Wolfstar fix - its, I can't help you there). Plus it showcases a very adult view of love in that things with life and love are much more complicated than meeting your OTL and having a happily ever after, and that the person you end up growing old with (or dying with, in this case) is not who you expected.
As for your last question concerning Grindeldore, conceding that it has a much higher chance of becoming cannon than Wolfstar, I'd choose Grindeldore, but I would prefer if they change their backstory. I think I wrote a comment about this in the Grindeldore video, but to summarize, for me, the whole Dumbledore's romantic feelings being taken advantage of by Grindelwald, while I understand that it can help give voice to victims of similar cases and IN NO WAY DETRACT FROM THAT NOR UNACKNOWLEDGE ITS VALIDITY, but it feels like it takes away a lot of the gray areas from both characters, making Grindelwald just seem like a Voldemort replica, just not as successful in some ways, and forgiving Dumbledore's transgressions because of his emotional victimization. I prefer they took it the Cherik (Magneto x Prof X) route; 2 people who really cared for each other (*cough*loved each other*cough cough*) forced to separate because of extenuating circumstances and different ideologies. In Grindeldore 's case, this would add depth to both of them, humanizing the villain while recognizing Dumbledore's grave mistakes.
They’re both super cute couples and you can ship them at different points in their lives. I only just started shipping them post-Azkaban I only shipped them as teens before
Ok I have a lot to say. I didn’t read the HP books or watch the movies until I was an adult. I didn’t know ANYTHING about Harry Potter. I would read one book, then watch the corresponding film, then the next and so on. I immediately read Remus as queer. Like he was very blatantly gay to me, and I loved it. I didn’t necessarily ship Wolfstar until I discovered fan fiction though, but once I read a few stories their relationship seemed so damn obvious. In OOTP especially, there are gay vibes all over the place. Then JKR swoops in with the Tonks relationship and I am just like.... what? I like Tonks. I think she’s pretty cool. I even read HER as queer at first! But then she’s suddenly crying over a man who doesn’t want to be with her (who has just lost his best friend/possible lover), everyone is in their business, and the Tonks thing just seemed so FORCED. Like maybe JK did initially write Remus as gay but changed it last minute? Idk. Now, I’ve read some fantastic fanfics where writers have incorporated the Tonks relationship with Wolfstar in a way that makes sense. Sirius and Tonks somehow switch bodies just before he falls through the veil and since she’s a metamorphagus Sirius can shift into his form and since Tonks is a woman they can finally get married etc. Or Tonks manipulates Remus by taking Sirius’s form and ends up accidentally pregnant, hence Remus wanting to leave her and their relationship is complicated. Or Remus is bisexual and ends up with Tonks because she looks a lot like Sirius since they are related. Alsoooo people will disagree with me hard on this but I find the massive age difference between Remus and Tonks to be fucking creepy. I think he’s eleven years older than her and she’s not much older than Harry & co, which is fine in reality I guess but these are kids’ books, you know? And then there’s the bit about Sirius being really attractive but not caring about all the girls who were making googly eyes at him. And he was disowned by his parents (for other reasons but still). So obviously gay. Anyway needless to say, they are my OTP and the only characters I ship so passionately. I have very strong opinions about them.
1. I've been a Wolfstar shipper since I first read the books, though I was already aware of it's existence which may have impacted how I read it. I think the chemistry is what really drew me in and a touch of "opposites attract." And who doesn't love a good "Friends to Lovers." 2. Though I would love to have seen it canon, I don't really mind that it's not. It may have made it more meaningful, especially Sirius' death as Lupin's reaction would have been even more heartbreaking. If there is ever some form of the Marauders era put to film or book I would adore to see it become canon there. 3. I think Grindeldore needs to be acknowledged in the films but I see it as a one sided thing so in terms of becoming a canon couple, I'd prefer Wolfstar. Thanks for another amazing video! I don't actually ship too much in the HP universe but Wolfstar are definitely my favourite. Also I love your new hair!
While I personally never saw Wolfstar in the books, it is still a much more plausible ship in my mind than half of the crazy pairings that poor Hermione gets thrown into. I mean seriously, how on earth would the pairing of Hermione and Lucius Malfoy be a thing?
Drarry, Wolfstar, Grindledore, Deamus etc. However, I don’t think that I could trust JK to write anything good about them as she seems to be going a little off lately.
Just yesterday I rewatched the prisoner of azkaban for the hundredth time and oh god, did I fall into this ship again. I love that you’re finally covering it PS: I’m living for your hair
I was quite young when the HP series was being released (I was in the 7th or 8th grade for Deathly Hallows), so I only picked up on Wolfstar from the fandom later on. Wolfstar is actually the first non-canon ship I ever shipped! What really solidified the way I see the pairing in my mind is The Shoebox Project, an amazing fanfic that I highly recommend to anyone in the fandom. I don't really mind that Wolfstar isn't canon. I have accepted Harry Potter for what it is, a series that meant a lot to me growing up that I have made my own through my interpretations of the text. In my mind Sirius and Remus had some sort of romantic relationship, that reading adds to the tragedy of their story and to my understanding of their chatacters, even if Rowling doesn't agree with me on that. I think that what with Rowling's statements about Dumbledore's sexuality and the new films featuring him and Grindlewald, making those two canon would make a lot of sense. I don't ship the pairing in the sense that I don't engage in fanworks about the two, but I am much more disappointed about them not being canonized than Wolfstar, if only because we all expected the franchise to finally have some representation of a same sex relationship through them.
my hp otp!! finally your talking about this ship! also the white hair is so good to answer your question: I like wolfstar because both characters are related to canine's. I find it cute that the marauders became animegi (sp) because they wanted to comfort Lupin and the fact that Srirus chose a dog kinda shows how he feels about Lupin. Also the trope of a clean cut gentleman being with a more scruffy man is one of my favorites.
I wasn’t a part of fandom when I originally read the books and watched the movies, but later fell in LOVE with wolfstar after I became aware of shipping culture and saw some of the fanworks out there. As much as I adore Tonks I never really liked her and Remus as a couple, so that probably helped too. I actually agree with a lot of people that the way Remus is coded as queer is problematic in multiple ways (as are a lot of Rowling’s post-book tweets, hence why I don’t put any real stock into what she says is “canon” but isn’t actually in the books), but his chemistry with Sirius makes the ship work for me anyway.
One brief moment in the Prisoner of Azkaban that I adore is when Snape puts himself in front of Harry, Hermione and Ron when Lupin turns into a werewolf. It shows that despite the fact that he dislikes the trio he is still a good teacher who possess as much bravery as a Gryffindor
I shipped Sirius and Lupin before I even knew what shipping was, when I first read the books as an adolescent. Personally, I don’t need anything to be canon to make it more meaningful - if it had happened in text, there wouldn’t be the plethora of fanfiction we get to enjoy today. :) HOWEVER, while the death of Sirius absolutely crushed me, the death of Remus was, I believe, an utter waste of a character.
1) I am a big WolfStar shipper! Like HUGE for years. 2)For me it was a combo of the PoA movie and the online fandom. I joined the fandom after the first movie when I was 11. They introduced me to the characters before I even saw them on screen, but then seeming them on screen clenched it for me. 3) I don't have to wish it was canon, to me it is, that is all that matters. I am bisexual so I dont even mind that Remus married Tonks after Sirius' death. Though I am a proponent of the fix it where Sirius doesn't die and him and Remus are happy and together after the war. I also like AUs where Sirius doesn't go after Wormtail and get framed for his murder, because he goes to Harry and ends up raising Harry as a son with Remus. 4) like I said I don't need for it to be "made canon" because to me it is. That being said, I care very little for Grindlore, so of course I would prefer WolfStar had been the marked representation.
AAHAHHHHHHHHH I SHIP WOLFSTAR BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY ACTUALLY WERE A COUPLE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY KISSED WHEN THEY HUGGED EACH OTHER THE FIRST TIME why am I so stupid
1. Yes! I ship them. It was the fandom, as when I read Harry Potter the first time I wasn't really shipping any pair. But since I saw it represented in fandom and re-read the books I found that I ship them hard. 2. Yes I wish it was canon but I don't need it to be. The meaning for me comes from their chemistry and their potential, so canon or not doesn't really makes a difference 3. If possible I would love both Wolfstar and Grindeldore to be canon. But that's just me enjoying tragic ships.
I want Grindeldore and Wolfstar both to be canon, not because I ship them, but because I think we need more representation like this and I feel like it would make a lot of people happy✨
When I was reading the books, I always saw Tonks as not being attracted to men. Whether she was gay, or asexual, idk. But I always got that feeling. But I don't know what to do because I fucking love Teddy. So i have a headcannon that Remus and Tonks were in love. But after the battle of Hogwarts, Remus survived, Tonks didn't, then eventually, Wolfstar get back together and raise Teddy
Honestly, if you think about it tonks is kinda female Sirius both are rebels, from the black family ( disowned by them too) and are similar in many ways so Remus was attracted to female Sirius and specially AFTER Sirius died.
Oof I definitely think Remus is bi and Wolfstar is pretty much canon, I love the ship so so much and I feel like there was a lot of missed opportunity when it came to representation with Wolfstar
I am and will always be a Marauder lover because of these two! I still remember Shoebox Project and Red Moon Rising as well as other original Wolfstar fandom. Part of it I think is because it, like Harry Potter as a whole, was part of me growing up and as such, was apart of my early fandom experiences. I’m just so fond of them that this video kind of tugged my heartstrings a bit. Thanks a lot as always
I started shipping them a year or two after reading the books, because I came across it in a Drarry fic. I do wish it had been canon, but that's more because I am an LGBT youth and I think growing up with a clearly shown gay couple in such a widespread series would have been really good for me. As for the last question, I think it would have been nice to show both, a healthy lgbt couple (Wolfstar) vs a not so healthy lgbt couple (Grindeldore) would have been so good...
I didn't ship anything that wasn't canon until about six months ago when I stumbled into a Wolfstar Discord server, and it's been a spiral since then. XD
I absolutely love this ship! I started shipping them when I began reading in between the lines both in the books and the movies. It just made sense to me! Honestly what made me fall in love with it was imagining all the fun, cute adventures they would have making mischief with the Marauders! I dont care whether my ships become canon or not because to me its more fun imagining fun scenerios, regardless of canon :) (I love Tonks and Remus too! He is bisexual in my headcanon :p)
I've been a Wolfstar shipper ever since I first read POA. I fell in love with both characters and immediately found them and their relationship far more interesting than the Golden Trio (still do). That was about the time I first discovered internet fandom, so it was really just a perfect storm for full-blown shipping.
Love your new hair! So cool! Thank you for talking about Wolfstar. Love them. I love this pairing AS MUCH as Tonks/Lupin! It would be really nice to see 1) a bisexual character 2) that a teenage love can be deep and meaningful, but sometimes it just ends, and people can find another love, as deep. (I'm tired of all the "there's only one soulmate for everybody" trope) It would be great to see it canon in Lupin's/Sirius' memory, and then Lupin/Tonks canon. Just to add to the real-esness of the human relationships, if that makes sense.
Wolfstar shipper all the way. I first came across Wolfstar through the parody 'I Ship It' and the more I looked it up, the better I liked it. And I from there the rest was history. As for Tonks, I can see the relationship between her and Remus, but I never really felt there was a connection. It felt to me like she was suppose to be a replacement for Sirius and fell short.
1. I don't know if I necessarily ship WolfStar. I do feel the chemistry between the characters, so I do see the appeal of shipping them. I just personally never really gravitated toward them as a pair. Their interactions stood out, but not that much. 2. Honestly, since I don't think Tonks' character really offered that much to the story anyway, it probably would have been more interesting to see WolfStar become canon. Or you know, at not have killed off Sirus #NeverForget #AlltheSalt Regardless, I will always have fanfiction to fix-it for me. 3. Grindeldore is interesting to me. It's so murky and left up to the imagination. I really want them to acknowledge it in the upcoming movies and not in the "oh, they were....'friends' " type of way. I think I like Grindeldore more than WolfStar, mostly because I'm a sucker for complex love/hate relationships, but If Lupin was truly closeted then there's also a lot to play with their as well. Personally, I just want well fleshed out relationships regardless of the pairing. So to answer, both. I would like both to be canon.
I like the pairing fine yeah, though MY favorite pairing is James Prongs Potter and Sirius Padfoot Black. :3 Why? *Shrugs sheepishly* No idea. My crush on both of them? More reasons than I could NAME in one go? xD :p
1. Yes, totally. I love my boys, they both have had such unhappy lives, and them finding love in each other makes me happy. Also puppies! 2.I got it from the fandom way before the films, and really it was sort of a : "Oh. Duh." moment. 3. I don't need things to be canon to enjoy them. Actually fans trying to get things to be canon can ruin things for me, especially if they harass actors or writers. I have that issue in the Supernatural fandom. I also really enjoy Sirius/Remus/James fics. ^^
I love wolfstar. The movies and fandom got me in to it. I personally like the fact that he ended up with tonks as I see it as she helped him to heal and move on from. Everything
In my mind, remus loved sirius and when sirius died, remus moved on and fell in love again with tonks had a baby and died and when they were in The afterlife, remus loved sirius again! Who also agrees? No hate! I have opinions. But if you disagree just tell me!
TBH when I was young I always assumed that Sirius just wasn’t attracted to anyone. I felt that James’s suggestion he become Padfoot permanently supported this. Now whenever I think about Sirius I still assume he’s asexual. Headcanon gone awry?
Hi! I don't ship wolfstar, but I like it and I'm quite fond of it, having it read in many jily fics as a backround or secondary ship. Bc of this, I don't mind it living in just fanon. It makes Remus being Bi a good headcanon and him being with Dora later on not a problem at all. I do think that it would have been an important thing in terms of representation, but Rowling would have never wrote that in the books. Dumbledore is example n1.
Okay, honestly, I didn't start shipping Wolfstar right away. I was big into Remus for a long time and started to write a fanfic of Siris Black's sister falling for him. It wasn't until I was about a third of the way through that I realized my character was basically a female Sirius. And then I went onto tumblr and I came across a post where there were gifs of a young Remus (Andrew Garfield, who was seen as the "ideal Marauder's Era Remus" while Ben Barnes was the "ideal Marauder's Era Sirius") and they were having some intense, deep conversation and in the end, I think Sirius professed his love. And I was like wow that's strange. Never thought of them as a couple. And, well, I kept coming across Wolfstar and eventually, I thought it was super freaking cute. And now I ship it so hard that it's one of my all time favorite OTPs
i defo ship wolfstar but i dont hate Tonks i like her i just dont ship her With Remus tbh even snape ships wolfstar cause if i recall "you two are Quaraling (idk how to spell it) like an old married couple"
I started shipping it due to fandom and it's the only HP ship I like since I never really cared about that aspect of the series AND since I just generally don't find the younger characters as interesting/explorable/likeable as the older ones save for Hermione because she's the GOAT. B-) Don't mean to be rude but JK Rowling's pretty cowardly when it comes to representation and would rather take all the praise of including a minority character and put none of the work in of having to write a visibly LGBT character nor will take any of the flack of including a visibly LGBT character in a fantasy series in the 90s/early 2000s and would rather wait until an arguably much 'safer' time like now. I don't think creators really owe their fans anything and I'm not hating on her at all, but I just think all this post-canon revelation stuff is really really weak.
I only started shipping Wolfstar a few years ago as I grew up reading Harry Potter (being 7 when the 7th book came out and my parents imposing a max of 7 questions a day about the story for my sister and I (we wanted to know what was happening a little to desperately 😅) because the novel was only out in English and we could still only speak Dutch) so almost as far back as my memory goes I 'shipped' Tonks and Lupin (I put it in inverted coma's cause I can't really say I was actually aware of it at the time). Plus Tonks has always been one of my favourite side characters so obviously I loved seeing her with the person she canonically loved, and I still do. After more closely examining and getting into the marauder's era I also actively started shipping wolfster, the appeal of which you already perfectly explained. Thus I am grateful that I find being a poly shipper easy (plus it works in the text with Tonks and Lupin supporting each other after Sirius' death and falling in love). Also, gotta say I love the new hairstyle. It looks really cool!
I've been a Wolfstar fan since 2003, along the same time as I found Drarry. Ah, was such a wee geekling then. I feel like in a way it could've been canon if we didn't have Tonks/Remus
I'll admit to being curious about Wolfstar when I first entered the HP fandom at age twelve but that interest quickly dwindled with age and discovery of other pairings.
I ship wolfstar, definitely. However, Remus and Tonks are equally a ship of mine. I think many don't shop Woflstar as in canon, it was a doomed ship with Sirus dying, and the massive misunderstanding between the two men
I don't consider myself an HP fan in the slightest, but I LOVED the Prisoner of Azkaban as a kid and read it many, many times. The movie was such a letdown tho...
I'm a huge HP fan and shipper so you know I've got thoughts on WolfStar. I even switched from mobile to laptop for this lol 1) I suppose I'm a WolfStar shipper. When I first read the books I was pretty young and aspected all the canon pairs at face value. But as I grew older and entered the fandom, I was exposed to many many many ships. As stated in your video, I'm someone who enjoys the dynamic between Lupin and Sirrus, at least my imagined one. During the Marauder era I like to believe they were together for a time, but like many teenager romances, it ended. The Marauders were Lupins first friends, and I think a part of him was always afraid they'd leave him. First, due to him being a werewolf, and later due to some other personal fault, he attributed to himself. In response, I think young Remus couldn't bring himself to temper Sirius or James which led to them crossing into bullying at times. Hermione is a great contrast to Remus in this regard! She's never been afraid to tell either Ron or Harry that they were being stupid, which is why I've always been fine with her ending up with either Harry or Ron (but I am NOT about start on the epilogue). Therefore, I think young Remus would always hold his friends in such a high regard that a romantic relationship between Sirius and Remus would be on unequal footing. With Remus never truly feeling free to speak his mind, and Sirius feeling like he was always pushing or taking despite never getting pushback from Remus. Additionally, as a half-blood, Remus would've dealt with some period typical internalized homophobia that Sirius as a pureblood wouldn't understand. I think a relationship between the two would have naturally fizzled out. But a relationship as matured adults would be successful. Although, I headcanon that Sirius did the whole "Snape Trap" as an impulsive, angry breakup thing, but with INSTANT regret. But Remus' blowup afterward triggered a deeper friendship between the two, with some hesitation surrounding trust and secrets on Remus side. Which is why Remus would suspect Sirius would betray the Potter's before suspecting Peter. I think Remus would have wanted to start a romantic relationship with Sirius again. But Azkaban didn't give Sirius the same opportunity to mature as Lupin did. In addition to the lack of therapy Sirius really fucking needed after his family, a war, and being wrongfully imprisoned. I actually kind of like Tonks/Remus as end game because of how different it is from WolfStar and the different sort of arguments they would've had to work through together. 2) Do I wish it was canon? Tough question, because in my mind it is? Like growing up I've always assumed every character was bi until proven otherwise. From the first question, you can see how I've made WolfStar and Tonks/Remus canon in my head. But I think that's how I've always read it? Would I like J.K. Rowling to confirm it? I guess so, but I'm pretty sure her image and mine would differ and I'd just end up annoyed. Grindeldore has been made canon and there's no fighting that. I like it as canon. I've always seen it as one-sided on Dumbledore's side, but I could be made to believe feelings were present on both sides. Although, I really really really love manipulative bastard Grindelwald, because I like the idea of Dumbledore unknowingly mirroring him in his later years. So both are canon until proven otherwise, and people (including J. K. Rowling) actually remember people can be bisexual and biromantic (and even discover much later in life). But if it's never formally confirmed, it wouldn't matter because I've already prescribed meaning and author confirmation would be the equivalent to the cool kid in class finally nodding in my direction; unnecessary (because I already knew) but acceptable. P.S. I really like your look in this video. The red lipstick really pops and I'm always impressed by your cupid's bow. In addition, you pull off grey surprisingly well. The black "underlights" (are they called that? they seem like they'd be called that?) are a nice addition which makes me excited to see what you continue to do with your hair. The combination of everything including your glasses gives the impression of a badass librarian with a dash of immortality and supernatural combat powers (maybe it's fae? maybe she's born with? *shrug*). I can't remeber what else I was going to say. Probably a serenade or ode to POC with colored hair, and how much 6 years old me would have loved to see them because she was obsessed with Sailor Mercury and her bright blue hair. Ugh, can't function need teaaa and food? Maybe a bagel? Cereal sounds good? Probably will consume corn Keep doing what you do! Live Long And Prosper
I am a low key shipper of Wolfstar. I would like for it to have been cannon and for Teddy to be a suregent son or adopted, because how do you not love Teddy, and I’m okayish with Grendoldor I’m not sure I haven’t seen your video on it.
This doesn't have anything to do with the video however as other fandom enthusiasts who presumably read fan fiction, to any who have fanfiction.net downloaded to your phones, do you have trouble searching for works with gay ships. For example, whenever I search for bipper fics on my phone it says "no file found" despite there being many of them some of which are downloaded to my phone. This is also the case with other gay or out there ships. Does anyone else have this problem or does my phone just personally hate me.
There’s something about Wolfstar that always seemed too convenient to me in fanfiction. Two gay kids land in the same house, the same year and happened to be attracted with each other? It’s a lot of coincidence. Too easy. Maybe if the wizarding world has more gay folk than we do percentage-wise or if lots of witches and wizards are bi, then it would seem more likely to me. If the writing is done well, I’d like to see one of them fall in love with a boy from a different house or a different year. Cool to see original character development. Also, I like keeping the Marauders as a band of brothers. It would change the dynamic to add lover’s spats, insecurities and the ups and downs that come with a romantic relationship. I want them to have the camaraderie of trading dating advice about other people. Still lots of potential to explore themes while keeping the Marauders intact. Also, is Sirius crazy enough to put a soulmate in danger by telling Snape about the tunnel under the weeping willow? Look I can see him momentarily forgetting about a buddy in a moment of extreme spite with Snape. But a soulmate? No, no, no. I’ve seen some really good visual art exploring Remus and Sirius together. Some of it amazing. I can see why people are drawn to it. The only time I’m into Wolfstar is in an AU where Remus and Sirius are raising Harry together. Sirius never put Remus’s life in danger at school. Sirius didn’t go to Azkaban because Remus was there to stop him from chasing after Peter. Anyway you get the idea.
1: No. In fact, I rarely if ever shipped anyone in Harry Potter with others from the books instead preferring it as my gateway into crossover fics. Though I am a little embraced to admit it in my teenage years I had a guilty pleasure in Harry Potter/Twilight crossover fics meaning Lupin found plenty of other wolfs to hang out with lol 2: I don't really care if it's canon as like I said I don't really enjoy any canon ships in Harry Potter and probably would have liked it less then. 3: inapplicable to me lol
1) I don't really have a say in the ship, as there are many facets to it and i can't really make a decision on whether or not the two are good for each other. 2) I don't think this ship should be canon, just because of how others will take to it and I myself don't care if it was canon. I also don't mind Tonks and Lupin as a couple and I do want Teddy to still be around. 3) I would honestly like to see Gindeldore more. I find Grindeldore to be a much more interesting ship personally. It has a lot more repercussions, and it gives more character to both Dumbledore and Grindelwald. I like Dumbledore's character as a man who has made many mistakes and has tried his best to either move on or to fix his mistakes. Grindeldore is just much more interesting to me than Wolfstar.
I've been looking forward to this since you mentioned it on the livestream! Edit1: I too had a huge crush on Horcrux Tom Riddle from the movie! I remain unashamed! Edit2: I had no idea about the Tonks Remus first meeting/patronus thing! There are so many post Canon things I have yet to read. I just love storing all of it in my head! Edit3: Now that I've finished the video I shall make a new comment with my complete thoughts!
*This is my shi(p)t!* Edit: 1. Yes, I ship them. 2. Bit of a cop out, but I think it was a mix of everything. 3. Yeah, during the Marauders era and/or Grimmauld Place, I have no problem with Tonks and Remus (except the timing maybe). 4. Also yes, I'm a bit annoyed but I can't completely escape the feeling that if something is canon then it just means more. 5. I don't think so? I mean, if you asked me pre-2007 who I wished to be made canonically queer I'd have said Remus (and then Sirius), but now that Albus "is out" I don't want to pick them at his expense. So both.
That's a great ship, too. They have so much subtext in the books, but unfortunately close to no "screen time" - I think that's why Wolfstar eclipses it.
I know that this might be a bit of a selfish question but I would really appreciate if you did a video on the Dr Strange x loki pair,this is just a request so take it with a bucket of salt
I love ‘WolfStar’ but I also adore Tonks and Teddy. I always thought that they were together or maybe wanted to be during the Marauder era but then there was Azkaban and that made Remus deny and lock away any feelings. Then during PoA when they meet again he’s very happy to not have been betrayed by Sirius but has pushed his feelings down enough to continue denying them. So Tonks and him get married and have baby teddy. I enjoy when this happens in fics and only she dies or she leaves him because she knows he loves Sirius (because he’d definitely be alive in my fix it) and they get together post the war. And the epilogue is just ignored.
I don't really ship them as in actively seeking out fanworks for them, however, I see this pairing as so obviously true, that I am not interested in it because it's basically on canon level for me and I tend to ship non-canonicly paired characters.
I honestly think I didn’t ship Wolfstar at first because I was a kid reading the books, so I cared more about the kid characters who were at the time closer to me in age. (Also I myself was unknowingly closeted then, so I shyed away from any and all queer ships because I wasn’t ready to think about it.) Now, I really like the idea of Sirius and Remus dating as teenagers and having that star crossed tragic relationship, but Remus being bisexual and organically falling in love with Tonks as an adult after he’s over Sirius. I headcanon that post PoA Wolfstar would never have been able to resurrect the romantic relationship that was shattered by Wormtail’s treachery and James and Lily’s deaths. They still loved each other but decided to stay friends because that way they could enjoy spending time together after all those lost years without it being too fraught with dangerous emotion. I believe a person can have more than one great love of their life, and Sirius and Tonks were the two great loves of Remus’ life. I try not to think too hard about the representation and werewolf=gay side of it because it will just make me mad and sad. And I still feel way closer to Harry and the gang than I do to the Marauders, because I grew up with the Golden Trio, saw them grow book by book. Those are my thoughts. Also Tonks is definitely also queer, probably bi and also fluid in her concept of gender. I love her.
Firstly, your hair is awesome! While Harry Potter fics were not the first fanfiction stories I ever read (I actaully started with Sailor Moon fics when I was about 12 lol), I didn't realize how well written they could be until I got into the Potterverse. I'm a huge Snarry and Drarry shipper, so Wolfstar has never been a big ship for me, but it's been in the back of my mind. When I was young and reading the books, I saw the Marauders as bullies, so it really soured the characters for me. Now that I'm in my early 30s, I can see characters in black/white labels. Because of this, I find Wolfstar to be much more sympathetic as a pairing. It would have been awesome for an LGBT couple to have been fully represented in the cannon, but like you said, romance was never really J.K's forte anyway. Don't get me started on the films though, or I'll be here all day. I like to think that Remus and Sirius were maybe each other's first love, but that's about it.
I ship it HARD, it was the movie (so much chemistry) and the fandom (I think I stared reading fics just when Drarry and Wolfstar exploded) lucky me there are many works on this
A wolfstar vid!!!! I'm so emo rn, thank you for taking the time to crate this content! 1. Yes, I've been shipping this for AGES. I was a kid when I first read HP, influenced by heteronormativity and such, so my shipping started when I dived into fandom & found loads of amazing fic. I hated the pairing at first, but over time I realized that it was my internalized homophobia speaking. R/S was a big part in helping me overcome that & come to terms with my own sexuality. 2. On the one hand, I'd love it if it became canon, mostly bc of the global impact it would cause to have a canon queer couple in the HP verse. On the other hand... I don't really trust JKR with this things. & let's face it it's never gonna happen with these two. She loves her idea of Lupin (read: straight) waay to much. I personally think that's why she made Remus/Tonks canon: she wanted these characters to be happy, and the "only" way to achieve that was through marriege & kids. Anyways, in either case, this ship couldn't be more meaningful to me than it already is. 3. I don't see how R/S could be made canon, given that the books & movies are over (unless you count confirmation outside of the texts) whereas Grindelore poses a very different case. I guess I wouldn't really have a problem with Grindelore being (more?) canon if we had more positive LGBT rep to outweight the negative implications that the ship has in regards of same-sex couples & gay people in general (evil characters, unhealthy relationships, etc). So idk where I fall on these question really. Once again: thank you!!!
I think Lupin was bisexual. I think Sirius was his one big love. I think he cared for Tonks, but it seemed he never cared for her as much as Sirius.
Because the books were through the perspective of a teenager, I love that its an unspoken relationship.
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That is exactly what o thibk
I took it less about Remus not caring for Tonks as much as he did for Sirius, just more so as Tonks saw that he was hurting after Order of the Pheonix and their relationship developed due to that.
Same, recently I’ve also been reading Tonks as non-binary or genderfluid
exactly this.
Yes! He is bi! My bsf told me he had a wife
Honestly, the best ship in Harry Potter
Yes, Wolfstar and Seamus/Dean are the pairings that matter.
it was rowling’s biggest missed opportunity tbh
Yup
#Remadora :>
@@freeeeaakkyygal who asked
Didn't both Gary Oldman and David Thewlis say they were shocked when they found out that Remus married Tonks because they thought their characters were dating, or was that just a rumor? Personally, I really ship Wolfstar, even though I do like Remus/Tonks, and Tonks in general (also, Teddy).
Omg really?
Do you have the link?
Pls
I think I've read somewhere in an article about David Thewlis saying that, dunno about Gary Oldman though..
I'm a big Wolfstar shipper, because of when the Maurauders first were intruduced! Sirius just seemed so uninterested in girls and then they were living together and all the other positive aspects...I was in! It's basically canon for me. I love Wolfstar, but I also like the pairing Remus x Tonks! In a world where Sirius died, I could totall see them comforting each other and falling in love. (Remus is bisexual headcanon)
I 100% agree with you
I agree
JE DETESTE TONKS but whatever yeah 😂
100% that is EXACTLY wha to thino
My opinion exactly.
Is there any reason people can't ship both Wolfstar and Remus/Tonks? I see Lupin as bi and I like both ships.
*Evil multishipper laugh*
*Evil multishipper laugh*
Wolfstar is one of my OTPs. And so is Remadora. Both could be canon and exist together. As for how i started shipping Wolfstar... I have no idea XD
Yes multishippers unite!
I refer you to my comment above.
Same
when I was younger, the books were pretty much like the bible for me and I belived in sola scriptura.
so I really didn't think much about Remus and Sirius as potential lovers - or in fact any gay pairing. However, when I first stumbled over Wolfstar online, the appeal of it was immediately obvious.
I think that Sirius, too, is heavily queercoded and I am completely unable to see him as straight. I also headcanon him to have had a crush James for a while, until he realized that his feelings for James were brotherly and he started to spend more time with Remus.
so yeah I definitely ship it!
Omg your hair looks amazing and cool as hell.
Wolfstar is my longest-running primary ship. Most ships I look at, read and run out of content or I lose interest. The sheer amount of wide-ranging fanfictions for wolfstar is impressive. You could be in the mood for any one type of fanfiction, be it fluff, pure smut, AU, or angst... and wolfster can supply you in abundance.
It was the fandom that got me into it. From what I remember, I wanted to explore the Marauders era, but I was dissatisfied with the romance fics taking away from the group dynamics of the four... except wolfstar. Wolfstar fics generally stayed within the group and even if James and Peter are not there (but they usually are)... two of the four are. So I searched specifically for them. I then expanded into other eras for the pair, the first wizarding war era, post-azkaban, bring back black AUs, raising harry AUs and then finally to pure AUs.
I generally dislike AUs that go pure AU because part of the reason why I read them is for the universe, but some of these writers are the best I've ever seen in any fandom. Ever. These authors can pull gold from a rabbit's arse.
Personally, I'm okay with Tonks. I do like her and her relationship with Remus, but I think it is a missed opportunity with Sirius representation-wise. ...and yes I think wolfstar should have been the one to be revealed to be a thing over grindeldore. Not that I have a problem with old dumbles being gay its just... tragic how the only official gay character is of a main ship with such an abusive arsehole
The whole "let slip to snape" thing with Remus' secret is context-less. We have no idea what actually happened and if it was an accident or on purpose. I've read some fantastic fics which have ingenious ways in how it could have been accidental. Alternatively, I have also read fics which explores Sirius being forced to grow up after the event and learn from the mistake with some severe consequences for him
I agree completely! You literally summed up my thoughts about the ship and the fandom :3
Always and forever OTP! I do wish it was canon but I also don't trust JKR to write it, given she doesn't seem to understand why people ship it? Plus as much as I love Tonks as a character and don't mind Tonks/Remus, I really don't like the way they come together in the book - the whole thing with Tonks losing her powers because she's so sad about a dude is gross, and then to have Molly & Arthur discussing Remus & Tonks' private lives like it's any of their business in front of all the kids? UGH UGH UGH
(also your hair looks awesome!)
Claire Rousseau so I am not the only one who doesn’t trust her
But you know who I do trust
The person who wrote a fanfic called Casting Moonshadows and also Harry Potter and the Marauders of the Mind
They both include wolfstar
1. I ship it, mostly because of the fandom
2. I don't really care if it is cannon. I am a multishipper
My crush on Tom Riddle is the least embarrassing thing about me I'm afraid
Batsy Boy but SAMMMMEEEE
Personally, I really liked Lupin & Tonks, but I totally can see the potential of Wolfstar, and hell, why not? I'll ship it too.
Here's MY narrative of the events. Tonks harbored a secret unrequited love for Lupin, but he was in a loving relationship with Sirius; they've loved each other since they were boys. But then Sirius dies and Lupin is devastated. All through the next year, Tonks does her best to guide him through his grief and as time passes, he grows to care for her. But then she makes the mistake of confessing her feelings too soon and spooking him off, as he's not completely ready to move on from Sirius. Then at the end of the 6th book, when Tonks confronts Lupin in front of the others, he realizes that even if he doesn't love her as much as he did Sirius, he does care and love her in a different way, plus he doesn't want to be alone anymore. So he marries her, and his love for her grows. And while he knows that Sirius will always be his one true love, he's made his peace with his death and is happy with his wife, whom he loves, although of course he's anxious about their son.
This headcannon came to me thanks to my mom, who told me that while she dearly loves my stepdad (she wouldn't put up with his bullshit if she didn't), she would always consider my dad the love of her life, it just didn't work out because reasons. It resonates with the story potential in this little love triangle. It makes sense to me since I don't see why Wolfstar and Lunks (I don't know their official couple name) can't be in the same cannon since Tonks didn't reveal her feelings until after Sirius 's death. It doesn't put down Lupin 's relationships with Sirius and Tonks or claims that one is superior over the other (unless you count Wolfstar fix - its, I can't help you there). Plus it showcases a very adult view of love in that things with life and love are much more complicated than meeting your OTL and having a happily ever after, and that the person you end up growing old with (or dying with, in this case) is not who you expected.
As for your last question concerning Grindeldore, conceding that it has a much higher chance of becoming cannon than Wolfstar, I'd choose Grindeldore, but I would prefer if they change their backstory.
I think I wrote a comment about this in the Grindeldore video, but to summarize, for me, the whole Dumbledore's romantic feelings being taken advantage of by Grindelwald, while I understand that it can help give voice to victims of similar cases and IN NO WAY DETRACT FROM THAT NOR UNACKNOWLEDGE ITS VALIDITY, but it feels like it takes away a lot of the gray areas from both characters, making Grindelwald just seem like a Voldemort replica, just not as successful in some ways, and forgiving Dumbledore's transgressions because of his emotional victimization. I prefer they took it the Cherik (Magneto x Prof X) route; 2 people who really cared for each other (*cough*loved each other*cough cough*) forced to separate because of extenuating circumstances and different ideologies. In Grindeldore 's case, this would add depth to both of them, humanizing the villain while recognizing Dumbledore's grave mistakes.
I completely agree with the headcannon as I can see exactly that happening and it would make sense as well.
It's remadora
I love it!!💖
@@wren8423 Thanks!
When you ship both wolfstar and remadora...
Kin Laison I mean it is not THAT hard
They’re both super cute couples and you can ship them at different points in their lives. I only just started shipping them post-Azkaban I only shipped them as teens before
I just can’t choose! :
honestly same but I think remadora is best after poa but I’m wolfstar all the way when it comes to the marauders era !
Le monde D'Adèle Yup! Same
Ok I have a lot to say. I didn’t read the HP books or watch the movies until I was an adult. I didn’t know ANYTHING about Harry Potter. I would read one book, then watch the corresponding film, then the next and so on.
I immediately read Remus as queer. Like he was very blatantly gay to me, and I loved it. I didn’t necessarily ship Wolfstar until I discovered fan fiction though, but once I read a few stories their relationship seemed so damn obvious. In OOTP especially, there are gay vibes all over the place.
Then JKR swoops in with the Tonks relationship and I am just like.... what? I like Tonks. I think she’s pretty cool. I even read HER as queer at first! But then she’s suddenly crying over a man who doesn’t want to be with her (who has just lost his best friend/possible lover), everyone is in their business, and the Tonks thing just seemed so FORCED. Like maybe JK did initially write Remus as gay but changed it last minute? Idk.
Now, I’ve read some fantastic fanfics where writers have incorporated the Tonks relationship with Wolfstar in a way that makes sense. Sirius and Tonks somehow switch bodies just before he falls through the veil and since she’s a metamorphagus Sirius can shift into his form and since Tonks is a woman they can finally get married etc. Or Tonks manipulates Remus by taking Sirius’s form and ends up accidentally pregnant, hence Remus wanting to leave her and their relationship is complicated. Or Remus is bisexual and ends up with Tonks because she looks a lot like Sirius since they are related.
Alsoooo people will disagree with me hard on this but I find the massive age difference between Remus and Tonks to be fucking creepy. I think he’s eleven years older than her and she’s not much older than Harry & co, which is fine in reality I guess but these are kids’ books, you know?
And then there’s the bit about Sirius being really attractive but not caring about all the girls who were making googly eyes at him. And he was disowned by his parents (for other reasons but still). So obviously gay.
Anyway needless to say, they are my OTP and the only characters I ship so passionately. I have very strong opinions about them.
Rowling has lost credibility over the years. You know, about social justice and stuff.
So, yeah. Wolfstar=CANNON.
1. I've been a Wolfstar shipper since I first read the books, though I was already aware of it's existence which may have impacted how I read it. I think the chemistry is what really drew me in and a touch of "opposites attract." And who doesn't love a good "Friends to Lovers."
2. Though I would love to have seen it canon, I don't really mind that it's not. It may have made it more meaningful, especially Sirius' death as Lupin's reaction would have been even more heartbreaking. If there is ever some form of the Marauders era put to film or book I would adore to see it become canon there.
3. I think Grindeldore needs to be acknowledged in the films but I see it as a one sided thing so in terms of becoming a canon couple, I'd prefer Wolfstar.
Thanks for another amazing video! I don't actually ship too much in the HP universe but Wolfstar are definitely my favourite.
Also I love your new hair!
Remus could have loved both Sirius and Tonks.
1) Remus could’ve been bi
2) Remus waited a year after Sirius’ death before he got with Tonks
Boom!
While I personally never saw Wolfstar in the books, it is still a much more plausible ship in my mind than half of the crazy pairings that poor Hermione gets thrown into. I mean seriously, how on earth would the pairing of Hermione and Lucius Malfoy be a thing?
Oh man Lucius x Hermione there's a throwback!
Wait... what?
@@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634 what??
Or Harry x Snape. I mean, SERIOUSLY???
Drarry, Wolfstar, Grindledore, Deamus etc. However, I don’t think that I could trust JK to write anything good about them as she seems to be going a little off lately.
Just yesterday I rewatched the prisoner of azkaban for the hundredth time and oh god, did I fall into this ship again. I love that you’re finally covering it
PS: I’m living for your hair
I was quite young when the HP series was being released (I was in the 7th or 8th grade for Deathly Hallows), so I only picked up on Wolfstar from the fandom later on. Wolfstar is actually the first non-canon ship I ever shipped! What really solidified the way I see the pairing in my mind is The Shoebox Project, an amazing fanfic that I highly recommend to anyone in the fandom.
I don't really mind that Wolfstar isn't canon. I have accepted Harry Potter for what it is, a series that meant a lot to me growing up that I have made my own through my interpretations of the text. In my mind Sirius and Remus had some sort of romantic relationship, that reading adds to the tragedy of their story and to my understanding of their chatacters, even if Rowling doesn't agree with me on that.
I think that what with Rowling's statements about Dumbledore's sexuality and the new films featuring him and Grindlewald, making those two canon would make a lot of sense. I don't ship the pairing in the sense that I don't engage in fanworks about the two, but I am much more disappointed about them not being canonized than Wolfstar, if only because we all expected the franchise to finally have some representation of a same sex relationship through them.
Tonks deserved so much better than being shoehorned into a relationship with Lupin... 😕
my hp otp!! finally your talking about this ship! also the white hair is so good
to answer your question: I like wolfstar because both characters are related to canine's. I find it cute that the marauders became animegi (sp) because they wanted to comfort Lupin and the fact that Srirus chose a dog kinda shows how he feels about Lupin. Also the trope of a clean cut gentleman being with a more scruffy man is one of my favorites.
The animagi thing is cute, but a minor correction is that you can't choose your animagi form, so Sirius being a dog is kind of meant to be.
What solidified this ship for me.
When they're embracing in Prisoner of Azkaban in the Shrieking Shack, Remus says "Not in front of the children"
I wasn’t a part of fandom when I originally read the books and watched the movies, but later fell in LOVE with wolfstar after I became aware of shipping culture and saw some of the fanworks out there. As much as I adore Tonks I never really liked her and Remus as a couple, so that probably helped too. I actually agree with a lot of people that the way Remus is coded as queer is problematic in multiple ways (as are a lot of Rowling’s post-book tweets, hence why I don’t put any real stock into what she says is “canon” but isn’t actually in the books), but his chemistry with Sirius makes the ship work for me anyway.
One brief moment in the Prisoner of Azkaban that I adore is when Snape puts himself in front of Harry, Hermione and Ron when Lupin turns into a werewolf. It shows that despite the fact that he dislikes the trio he is still a good teacher who possess as much bravery as a Gryffindor
I shipped Sirius and Lupin before I even knew what shipping was, when I first read the books as an adolescent. Personally, I don’t need anything to be canon to make it more meaningful - if it had happened in text, there wouldn’t be the plethora of fanfiction we get to enjoy today. :) HOWEVER, while the death of Sirius absolutely crushed me, the death of Remus was, I believe, an utter waste of a character.
Ah, Dadfoot and Moomy, a classic.
I ship it!
I never actively shipped them, but I can see their chemistry and it would have been cute and really tragic
My hope is that there is an afterworld in the Harry Potter universe where Sirius and Remus get together, but Remus still remains friends with Tonks.
I ship wolfstar mostly as parentfigures to Harry. He deserves a happy family :(
1) I am a big WolfStar shipper! Like HUGE for years. 2)For me it was a combo of the PoA movie and the online fandom. I joined the fandom after the first movie when I was 11. They introduced me to the characters before I even saw them on screen, but then seeming them on screen clenched it for me. 3) I don't have to wish it was canon, to me it is, that is all that matters. I am bisexual so I dont even mind that Remus married Tonks after Sirius' death. Though I am a proponent of the fix it where Sirius doesn't die and him and Remus are happy and together after the war. I also like AUs where Sirius doesn't go after Wormtail and get framed for his murder, because he goes to Harry and ends up raising Harry as a son with Remus. 4) like I said I don't need for it to be "made canon" because to me it is. That being said, I care very little for Grindlore, so of course I would prefer WolfStar had been the marked representation.
AAHAHHHHHHHHH I SHIP WOLFSTAR BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY ACTUALLY WERE A COUPLE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY KISSED WHEN THEY HUGGED EACH OTHER THE FIRST TIME why am I so stupid
Wolfstar is one of my favorite HP ships!!! Love the hair btw
1. Yes! I ship them. It was the fandom, as when I read Harry Potter the first time I wasn't really shipping any pair. But since I saw it represented in fandom and re-read the books I found that I ship them hard.
2. Yes I wish it was canon but I don't need it to be. The meaning for me comes from their chemistry and their potential, so canon or not doesn't really makes a difference
3. If possible I would love both Wolfstar and Grindeldore to be canon. But that's just me enjoying tragic ships.
I want Grindeldore and Wolfstar both to be canon, not because I ship them, but because I think we need more representation like this and I feel like it would make a lot of people happy✨
When I was reading the books, I always saw Tonks as not being attracted to men. Whether she was gay, or asexual, idk. But I always got that feeling. But I don't know what to do because I fucking love Teddy. So i have a headcannon that Remus and Tonks were in love. But after the battle of Hogwarts, Remus survived, Tonks didn't, then eventually, Wolfstar get back together and raise Teddy
you know you are in deep when you've fallen in love with both these characters but want them to be together
Lmao, ikr. I've fallen for so many characters that I hardcore ship with other characters in so many different fandoms it is unhealthy
I don't so much actively ship Wolfstar, but it's one of the few HP pairings that I actually "buy" as making sense within the canon.
Wolfstar all the way. I was just a wee lass reading the books when it hit me. 😂 I wish it was cannon with all my little heart.
Honestly, if you think about it tonks is kinda female Sirius both are rebels, from the black family ( disowned by them too) and are similar in many ways so Remus was attracted to female Sirius and specially AFTER Sirius died.
Oof I definitely think Remus is bi and Wolfstar is pretty much canon, I love the ship so so much and I feel like there was a lot of missed opportunity when it came to representation with Wolfstar
For me it´s the only possible and reasonable Sirius pairing.
Great video!! I'm a silent watcher so.... hi! Can you please make another maruader ship? James Potter x Severus Snape? Please :(
I am and will always be a Marauder lover because of these two! I still remember Shoebox Project and Red Moon Rising as well as other original Wolfstar fandom. Part of it I think is because it, like Harry Potter as a whole, was part of me growing up and as such, was apart of my early fandom experiences. I’m just so fond of them that this video kind of tugged my heartstrings a bit. Thanks a lot as always
The Shoebox Project is golden.
red moon rising?
I started shipping them a year or two after reading the books, because I came across it in a Drarry fic. I do wish it had been canon, but that's more because I am an LGBT youth and I think growing up with a clearly shown gay couple in such a widespread series would have been really good for me. As for the last question, I think it would have been nice to show both, a healthy lgbt couple (Wolfstar) vs a not so healthy lgbt couple (Grindeldore) would have been so good...
I didn't ship anything that wasn't canon until about six months ago when I stumbled into a Wolfstar Discord server, and it's been a spiral since then. XD
Remus is my favorite character, but I never liked book!Sirius. It wasn't until I found wolfstar that I grew to like him.
I absolutely love this ship! I started shipping them when I began reading in between the lines both in the books and the movies. It just made sense to me! Honestly what made me fall in love with it was imagining all the fun, cute adventures they would have making mischief with the Marauders!
I dont care whether my ships become canon or not because to me its more fun imagining fun scenerios, regardless of canon :)
(I love Tonks and Remus too!
He is bisexual in my headcanon :p)
OOOO! What a blast from the past. This was the very first ship that I shipped. I wouldn't be the shipper I am today without Wolfstar.
I've been a Wolfstar shipper ever since I first read POA. I fell in love with both characters and immediately found them and their relationship far more interesting than the Golden Trio (still do). That was about the time I first discovered internet fandom, so it was really just a perfect storm for full-blown shipping.
It's my main ship. I love it, and they are quite sweet 🥺✨
Both canon would make me happy .
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Love your new hair! So cool!
Thank you for talking about Wolfstar. Love them. I love this pairing AS MUCH as Tonks/Lupin! It would be really nice to see 1) a bisexual character 2) that a teenage love can be deep and meaningful, but sometimes it just ends, and people can find another love, as deep. (I'm tired of all the "there's only one soulmate for everybody" trope) It would be great to see it canon in Lupin's/Sirius' memory, and then Lupin/Tonks canon. Just to add to the real-esness of the human relationships, if that makes sense.
ITS NOT A PHASE MOM!
Yeah I ship them. Saw a connection in the movies and loved the fan art and fan fics! :)
Wolfstar shipper all the way.
I first came across Wolfstar through the parody 'I Ship It' and the more I looked it up, the better I liked it. And I from there the rest was history. As for Tonks, I can see the relationship between her and Remus, but I never really felt there was a connection. It felt to me like she was suppose to be a replacement for Sirius and fell short.
1. I don't know if I necessarily ship WolfStar. I do feel the chemistry between the characters, so I do see the appeal of shipping them. I just personally never really gravitated toward them as a pair. Their interactions stood out, but not that much.
2. Honestly, since I don't think Tonks' character really offered that much to the story anyway, it probably would have been more interesting to see WolfStar become canon. Or you know, at not have killed off Sirus #NeverForget #AlltheSalt Regardless, I will always have fanfiction to fix-it for me.
3. Grindeldore is interesting to me. It's so murky and left up to the imagination. I really want them to acknowledge it in the upcoming movies and not in the "oh, they were....'friends' " type of way. I think I like Grindeldore more than WolfStar, mostly because I'm a sucker for complex love/hate relationships, but If Lupin was truly closeted then there's also a lot to play with their as well. Personally, I just want well fleshed out relationships regardless of the pairing. So to answer, both. I would like both to be canon.
I like the pairing fine yeah, though MY favorite pairing is James Prongs Potter and Sirius Padfoot Black. :3 Why? *Shrugs sheepishly* No idea. My crush on both of them? More reasons than I could NAME in one go? xD :p
1. Yes, totally. I love my boys, they both have had such unhappy lives, and them finding love in each other makes me happy. Also puppies!
2.I got it from the fandom way before the films, and really it was sort of a : "Oh. Duh." moment.
3. I don't need things to be canon to enjoy them. Actually fans trying to get things to be canon can ruin things for me, especially if they harass actors or writers. I have that issue in the Supernatural fandom.
I also really enjoy Sirius/Remus/James fics. ^^
I love wolfstar. The movies and fandom got me in to it. I personally like the fact that he ended up with tonks as I see it as she helped him to heal and move on from. Everything
I've been waiting for this video!
Honestly for me Drarry and Wolfstar are tied as my favourite ships
I had such a crush on Movie teenage Tom Riddle lol
Oh DarkStar... the first smut pairing I ever read
In my mind, remus loved sirius and when sirius died, remus moved on and fell in love again with tonks had a baby and died and when they were in The afterlife, remus loved sirius again! Who also agrees? No hate! I have opinions. But if you disagree just tell me!
TBH when I was young I always assumed that Sirius just wasn’t attracted to anyone. I felt that James’s suggestion he become Padfoot permanently supported this. Now whenever I think about Sirius I still assume he’s asexual.
Headcanon gone awry?
Hi! I don't ship wolfstar, but I like it and I'm quite fond of it, having it read in many jily fics as a backround or secondary ship. Bc of this, I don't mind it living in just fanon. It makes Remus being Bi a good headcanon and him being with Dora later on not a problem at all. I do think that it would have been an important thing in terms of representation, but Rowling would have never wrote that in the books. Dumbledore is example n1.
Wolfstar and Remandora are my OTPs and I love them both even tho wolfstar got me first,but there's no reason for them to not coexist.
I like the ship it's interesting even if it isn't my main pairing in this fandom it's one I like though I also like tonks and teddy
Okay, honestly, I didn't start shipping Wolfstar right away. I was big into Remus for a long time and started to write a fanfic of Siris Black's sister falling for him. It wasn't until I was about a third of the way through that I realized my character was basically a female Sirius. And then I went onto tumblr and I came across a post where there were gifs of a young Remus (Andrew Garfield, who was seen as the "ideal Marauder's Era Remus" while Ben Barnes was the "ideal Marauder's Era Sirius") and they were having some intense, deep conversation and in the end, I think Sirius professed his love. And I was like wow that's strange. Never thought of them as a couple. And, well, I kept coming across Wolfstar and eventually, I thought it was super freaking cute. And now I ship it so hard that it's one of my all time favorite OTPs
i defo ship wolfstar but i dont hate Tonks i like her i just dont ship her With Remus tbh even snape ships wolfstar cause if i recall "you two are Quaraling (idk how to spell it) like an old married couple"
I started shipping it due to fandom and it's the only HP ship I like since I never really cared about that aspect of the series AND since I just generally don't find the younger characters as interesting/explorable/likeable as the older ones save for Hermione because she's the GOAT. B-)
Don't mean to be rude but JK Rowling's pretty cowardly when it comes to representation and would rather take all the praise of including a minority character and put none of the work in of having to write a visibly LGBT character nor will take any of the flack of including a visibly LGBT character in a fantasy series in the 90s/early 2000s and would rather wait until an arguably much 'safer' time like now. I don't think creators really owe their fans anything and I'm not hating on her at all, but I just think all this post-canon revelation stuff is really really weak.
I only started shipping Wolfstar a few years ago as I grew up reading Harry Potter (being 7 when the 7th book came out and my parents imposing a max of 7 questions a day about the story for my sister and I (we wanted to know what was happening a little to desperately 😅) because the novel was only out in English and we could still only speak Dutch) so almost as far back as my memory goes I 'shipped' Tonks and Lupin (I put it in inverted coma's cause I can't really say I was actually aware of it at the time). Plus Tonks has always been one of my favourite side characters so obviously I loved seeing her with the person she canonically loved, and I still do. After more closely examining and getting into the marauder's era I also actively started shipping wolfster, the appeal of which you already perfectly explained. Thus I am grateful that I find being a poly shipper easy (plus it works in the text with Tonks and Lupin supporting each other after Sirius' death and falling in love).
Also, gotta say I love the new hairstyle. It looks really cool!
So Sirius is a BLACKSTAR?
David Bowie Fans understand;D
I've been a Wolfstar fan since 2003, along the same time as I found Drarry. Ah, was such a wee geekling then. I feel like in a way it could've been canon if we didn't have Tonks/Remus
I'll admit to being curious about Wolfstar when I first entered the HP fandom at age twelve but that interest quickly dwindled with age and discovery of other pairings.
I ship wolfstar, definitely. However, Remus and Tonks are equally a ship of mine.
I think many don't shop Woflstar as in canon, it was a doomed ship with Sirus dying, and the massive misunderstanding between the two men
I don't consider myself an HP fan in the slightest, but I LOVED the Prisoner of Azkaban as a kid and read it many, many times. The movie was such a letdown tho...
I'm a huge HP fan and shipper so you know I've got thoughts on WolfStar.
I even switched from mobile to laptop for this lol
1) I suppose I'm a WolfStar shipper. When I first read the books I was pretty young and aspected all the canon pairs at face value. But as I grew older and entered the fandom, I was exposed to many many many ships. As stated in your video, I'm someone who enjoys the dynamic between Lupin and Sirrus, at least my imagined one. During the Marauder era I like to believe they were together for a time, but like many teenager romances, it ended.
The Marauders were Lupins first friends, and I think a part of him was always afraid they'd leave him. First, due to him being a werewolf, and later due to some other personal fault, he attributed to himself. In response, I think young Remus couldn't bring himself to temper Sirius or James which led to them crossing into bullying at times. Hermione is a great contrast to Remus in this regard! She's never been afraid to tell either Ron or Harry that they were being stupid, which is why I've always been fine with her ending up with either Harry or Ron (but I am NOT about start on the epilogue). Therefore, I think young Remus would always hold his friends in such a high regard that a romantic relationship between Sirius and Remus would be on unequal footing. With Remus never truly feeling free to speak his mind, and Sirius feeling like he was always pushing or taking despite never getting pushback from Remus. Additionally, as a half-blood, Remus would've dealt with some period typical internalized homophobia that Sirius as a pureblood wouldn't understand. I think a relationship between the two would have naturally fizzled out. But a relationship as matured adults would be successful.
Although, I headcanon that Sirius did the whole "Snape Trap" as an impulsive, angry breakup thing, but with INSTANT regret. But Remus' blowup afterward triggered a deeper friendship between the two, with some hesitation surrounding trust and secrets on Remus side. Which is why Remus would suspect Sirius would betray the Potter's before suspecting Peter.
I think Remus would have wanted to start a romantic relationship with Sirius again. But Azkaban didn't give Sirius the same opportunity to mature as Lupin did. In addition to the lack of therapy Sirius really fucking needed after his family, a war, and being wrongfully imprisoned. I actually kind of like Tonks/Remus as end game because of how different it is from WolfStar and the different sort of arguments they would've had to work through together.
2) Do I wish it was canon? Tough question, because in my mind it is? Like growing up I've always assumed every character was bi until proven otherwise. From the first question, you can see how I've made WolfStar and Tonks/Remus canon in my head. But I think that's how I've always read it? Would I like J.K. Rowling to confirm it? I guess so, but I'm pretty sure her image and mine would differ and I'd just end up annoyed. Grindeldore has been made canon and there's no fighting that. I like it as canon. I've always seen it as one-sided on Dumbledore's side, but I could be made to believe feelings were present on both sides. Although, I really really really love manipulative bastard Grindelwald, because I like the idea of Dumbledore unknowingly mirroring him in his later years. So both are canon until proven otherwise, and people (including J. K. Rowling) actually remember people can be bisexual and biromantic (and even discover much later in life). But if it's never formally confirmed, it wouldn't matter because I've already prescribed meaning and author confirmation would be the equivalent to the cool kid in class finally nodding in my direction; unnecessary (because I already knew) but acceptable.
P.S.
I really like your look in this video. The red lipstick really pops and I'm always impressed by your cupid's bow. In addition, you pull off grey surprisingly well. The black "underlights" (are they called that? they seem like they'd be called that?) are a nice addition which makes me excited to see what you continue to do with your hair. The combination of everything including your glasses gives the impression of a badass librarian with a dash of immortality and supernatural combat powers (maybe it's fae? maybe she's born with? *shrug*).
I can't remeber what else I was going to say. Probably a serenade or ode to POC with colored hair, and how much 6 years old me would have loved to see them because she was obsessed with Sailor Mercury and her bright blue hair.
Ugh, can't function need teaaa and food? Maybe a bagel? Cereal sounds good? Probably will consume corn
Keep doing what you do!
Live Long And Prosper
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yes, wolfstar, thank you
I am a low key shipper of Wolfstar. I would like for it to have been cannon and for Teddy to be a suregent son or adopted, because how do you not love Teddy, and I’m okayish with Grendoldor I’m not sure I haven’t seen your video on it.
This doesn't have anything to do with the video however as other fandom enthusiasts who presumably read fan fiction, to any who have fanfiction.net downloaded to your phones, do you have trouble searching for works with gay ships. For example, whenever I search for bipper fics on my phone it says "no file found" despite there being many of them some of which are downloaded to my phone. This is also the case with other gay or out there ships. Does anyone else have this problem or does my phone just personally hate me.
I ship it but its not at the top of my shipping list for HP. Love your hair!!!
There’s something about Wolfstar that always seemed too convenient to me in fanfiction. Two gay kids land in the same house, the same year and happened to be attracted with each other? It’s a lot of coincidence. Too easy. Maybe if the wizarding world has more gay folk than we do percentage-wise or if lots of witches and wizards are bi, then it would seem more likely to me.
If the writing is done well, I’d like to see one of them fall in love with a boy from a different house or a different year. Cool to see original character development.
Also, I like keeping the Marauders as a band of brothers. It would change the dynamic to add lover’s spats, insecurities and the ups and downs that come with a romantic relationship. I want them to have the camaraderie of trading dating advice about other people. Still lots of potential to explore themes while keeping the Marauders intact.
Also, is Sirius crazy enough to put a soulmate in danger by telling Snape about the tunnel under the weeping willow? Look I can see him momentarily forgetting about a buddy in a moment of extreme spite with Snape. But a soulmate? No, no, no.
I’ve seen some really good visual art exploring Remus and Sirius together. Some of it amazing. I can see why people are drawn to it.
The only time I’m into Wolfstar is in an AU where Remus and Sirius are raising Harry together. Sirius never put Remus’s life in danger at school. Sirius didn’t go to Azkaban because Remus was there to stop him from chasing after Peter.
Anyway you get the idea.
1: No. In fact, I rarely if ever shipped anyone in Harry Potter with others from the books instead preferring it as my gateway into crossover fics. Though I am a little embraced to admit it in my teenage years I had a guilty pleasure in Harry Potter/Twilight crossover fics meaning Lupin found plenty of other wolfs to hang out with lol
2: I don't really care if it's canon as like I said I don't really enjoy any canon ships in Harry Potter and probably would have liked it less then.
3: inapplicable to me lol
1) I don't really have a say in the ship, as there are many facets to it and i can't really make a decision on whether or not the two are good for each other. 2) I don't think this ship should be canon, just because of how others will take to it and I myself don't care if it was canon. I also don't mind Tonks and Lupin as a couple and I do want Teddy to still be around. 3) I would honestly like to see Gindeldore more. I find Grindeldore to be a much more interesting ship personally. It has a lot more repercussions, and it gives more character to both Dumbledore and Grindelwald. I like Dumbledore's character as a man who has made many mistakes and has tried his best to either move on or to fix his mistakes. Grindeldore is just much more interesting to me than Wolfstar.
I've been looking forward to this since you mentioned it on the livestream!
Edit1: I too had a huge crush on Horcrux Tom Riddle from the movie! I remain unashamed!
Edit2: I had no idea about the Tonks Remus first meeting/patronus thing! There are so many post Canon things I have yet to read. I just love storing all of it in my head!
Edit3: Now that I've finished the video I shall make a new comment with my complete thoughts!
*This is my shi(p)t!*
Edit: 1. Yes, I ship them.
2. Bit of a cop out, but I think it was a mix of everything.
3. Yeah, during the Marauders era and/or Grimmauld Place, I have no problem with Tonks and Remus (except the timing maybe).
4. Also yes, I'm a bit annoyed but I can't completely escape the feeling that if something is canon then it just means more.
5. I don't think so? I mean, if you asked me pre-2007 who I wished to be made canonically queer I'd have said Remus (and then Sirius), but now that Albus "is out" I don't want to pick them at his expense. So both.
I always shipped Sirius and James
That's a great ship, too. They have so much subtext in the books, but unfortunately close to no "screen time" - I think that's why Wolfstar eclipses it.
I know that this might be a bit of a selfish question but I would really appreciate if you did a video on the Dr Strange x loki pair,this is just a request so take it with a bucket of salt
I love ‘WolfStar’ but I also adore Tonks and Teddy. I always thought that they were together or maybe wanted to be during the Marauder era but then there was Azkaban and that made Remus deny and lock away any feelings. Then during PoA when they meet again he’s very happy to not have been betrayed by Sirius but has pushed his feelings down enough to continue denying them. So Tonks and him get married and have baby teddy. I enjoy when this happens in fics and only she dies or she leaves him because she knows he loves Sirius (because he’d definitely be alive in my fix it) and they get together post the war. And the epilogue is just ignored.
I don't really ship them as in actively seeking out fanworks for them, however, I see this pairing as so obviously true, that I am not interested in it because it's basically on canon level for me and I tend to ship non-canonicly paired characters.
I honestly think I didn’t ship Wolfstar at first because I was a kid reading the books, so I cared more about the kid characters who were at the time closer to me in age. (Also I myself was unknowingly closeted then, so I shyed away from any and all queer ships because I wasn’t ready to think about it.) Now, I really like the idea of Sirius and Remus dating as teenagers and having that star crossed tragic relationship, but Remus being bisexual and organically falling in love with Tonks as an adult after he’s over Sirius. I headcanon that post PoA Wolfstar would never have been able to resurrect the romantic relationship that was shattered by Wormtail’s treachery and James and Lily’s deaths. They still loved each other but decided to stay friends because that way they could enjoy spending time together after all those lost years without it being too fraught with dangerous emotion. I believe a person can have more than one great love of their life, and Sirius and Tonks were the two great loves of Remus’ life. I try not to think too hard about the representation and werewolf=gay side of it because it will just make me mad and sad. And I still feel way closer to Harry and the gang than I do to the Marauders, because I grew up with the Golden Trio, saw them grow book by book. Those are my thoughts. Also Tonks is definitely also queer, probably bi and also fluid in her concept of gender. I love her.
Firstly, your hair is awesome! While Harry Potter fics were not the first fanfiction stories I ever read (I actaully started with Sailor Moon fics when I was about 12 lol), I didn't realize how well written they could be until I got into the Potterverse. I'm a huge Snarry and Drarry shipper, so Wolfstar has never been a big ship for me, but it's been in the back of my mind. When I was young and reading the books, I saw the Marauders as bullies, so it really soured the characters for me. Now that I'm in my early 30s, I can see characters in black/white labels. Because of this, I find Wolfstar to be much more sympathetic as a pairing. It would have been awesome for an LGBT couple to have been fully represented in the cannon, but like you said, romance was never really J.K's forte anyway. Don't get me started on the films though, or I'll be here all day. I like to think that Remus and Sirius were maybe each other's first love, but that's about it.
I ship it HARD, it was the movie (so much chemistry) and the fandom (I think I stared reading fics just when Drarry and Wolfstar exploded) lucky me there are many works on this
no ship here. I actually always thought that Sirius was hot for James
A wolfstar vid!!!! I'm so emo rn, thank you for taking the time to crate this content!
1. Yes, I've been shipping this for AGES. I was a kid when I first read HP, influenced by heteronormativity and such, so my shipping started when I dived into fandom & found loads of amazing fic. I hated the pairing at first, but over time I realized that it was my internalized homophobia speaking. R/S was a big part in helping me overcome that & come to terms with my own sexuality.
2. On the one hand, I'd love it if it became canon, mostly bc of the global impact it would cause to have a canon queer couple in the HP verse. On the other hand... I don't really trust JKR with this things. & let's face it it's never gonna happen with these two. She loves her idea of Lupin (read: straight) waay to much. I personally think that's why she made Remus/Tonks canon: she wanted these characters to be happy, and the "only" way to achieve that was through marriege & kids. Anyways, in either case, this ship couldn't be more meaningful to me than it already is.
3. I don't see how R/S could be made canon, given that the books & movies are over (unless you count confirmation outside of the texts) whereas Grindelore poses a very different case. I guess I wouldn't really have a problem with Grindelore being (more?) canon if we had more positive LGBT rep to outweight the negative implications that the ship has in regards of same-sex couples & gay people in general (evil characters, unhealthy relationships, etc). So idk where I fall on these question really.
Once again: thank you!!!