5 Pros 5 Cons Of The 2020 Renault Zoe ZE50
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- Last week i did a review of the Renault Zoe Z.E.50 Well today am doing my special 5 pro's and 5 cons of the Renault Zoe ZE50. The New 2020 Renault Zoe is an improved version of the ZE40 and the original Zoe. So join me today as a current zoe owner as i go threw my pros of the new Zoe and also the cons of this car.
CONS of the Renault Zoe ZE50
0:17 Missing 3d hologram badges and other pre launch spec's!
1:12 No Adaptive cruise control
1:53 Lane Keep assist on the zoe sin't great
3:00 CCS on the ZE50 isn't standard speed is 50kw however you keep 22kw AC
3:38 No preheat on key and no charge flap open on the key which previous model did have
Pros of the Renault Zoe ZE50
5:02 Better build quality which results in better handling but also better performance from the R135 motor
6:18 Renault have seriously improved the interior and to me this is the best electric car interior for its class.
6:50 the 52kwh battery means massively improved range
7:15 Renault have changed the audio system on the zoe you have have android auto and apple car play. The speakers also sound better on the standard system
8:14 Best pro? Well the Zoe ZE50 now has a 5 year warranty!
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I like it. Thanks Nick.
Nice work, Nick - thanks! A pity about the heating button...
You're a star Nick . Great video and very informative. I have a ZE 40 Bose Edition but tempted by the ZE 50. Agree with you about the heater button on the key fob, its really useful. Keep up the good work your cheery personality it just what we need at the difficult time with Covid . Cheers Trev
Sorry typo it's just what we need at this difficult time
Thanks TeesTrev check out last weeks zoe review for a great price on Zoe ZE50! or call me direct and we can look into sorting a deal out. Currently off work of course thou!
@@NicolasRaimo Hi Nick I drove all the way to Brechin in Scotland to get my Bose Edition so happy to travel for a good car. What is your email please and we can sort something out , obviously when all the travel restrictions and Covid 19 problems are over . Cheers Trev
Thanks for a nice review. I wonder if HVAC is available while charging? Can you project video on the centre screen like in Kia e niro via usb stick or phone?
I owned a 2019 and now, the 2020. Both Intens models. Like you, I love the Zoe’s. France continues a 6000 grant which allows me to upgrade.
Hey bro. Could you please do an in depth video on the new infotainment system, more specifically android auto and apple play. Thanks
Thanks for the review , just purchased , can’t wait . A proper ev review from someone in the know , ps have first gen 43 kw charge rate 22kw . It was great , this drives like a dream , however agree with you , on all negatives, but maybe that can change , software upgrade please Renault
Glad I could help and your love the ZE50 which model you go for?
I’m happy with the 110 (saving £2000), but I’m impressed with the handling improvements. Audio wise, I assume you’re referring to the Bose option.
The take control warning is if it corrects more than a certain number of times in a minute or something (says in the manual) not if it's severe
Neat video. Thank you.
Thanks Sarah I’ve done 2 videos on new Zoe if you want more info on it, please also consider clicking subscribe
Hi Nick
I am waiting for an Iconic R110 with CCS ... its locked in the import centre!!! I'm trading in a ZE20... so a few cons isn't really a worry to me as there are so many pro's ... I can't see the charge flap button on fob is a major problem as I tend to use the button in the car most of the time anyway, as when you arrive at a charger just press the button before! you get out of the car... so no major hassle. The lack of preheat button is not ideal.. but as long as the App works well then not a biggy... keep up the good work Nick!! A range test would be interesting to see at some point..
Richard Taplin there’s no App for the UK for foreseeable future, as the app only works in Km not Miles and needs to be re-written! So I’m told.
@@nealstreet1956 ahh.. sounds like classic Renault! I wouldn't have thought converting to miles would be a major rewrite? The old app was fairly useless really... I was hoping the new one would be a step up in functionality... hopefully they will get it sorted by next winter.
I will just be happy to get the new car , once the shutdown is over!!
Great review, I’m now wondering whether to go for the MG larger car or a Zoe?
I don’t need an MG sized car so Zoes prefect, there’s not a huge difference in useable space however is more volume space but I can’t comment fully as I haven’t driven the MG I can’t seem to get MG PR to lend me one
Hi Nick, what standard tyres are now on the ZOE, still the Michelin EV like the ols ZOE? TIA
Not EV tyres on this model anymore which is likely one of the more grippy reasons
Cruise control is a bit better now, they have updated it, it's less "ping pong" effect.
Great video Nick. Even ur co-pilot doesn't want to listen to you lol!😂😂😂
Haha how you mean? Headphones 😂 he was my cameraman and sound man for day checking the mics were working
@@NicolasRaimo haha yeah, I knew it would be something like that, just thought it would be funny to mention!😂😂
@@miickyp hope your enjoying driving your car this week 😛
@@NicolasRaimo u bastard😂😂 I cleaned it the weekend, charged it up for free with my Zappi now its just sat there looking all sad begging me to take it out!😂😂
You forgot to mention the only con I have and will probably always have is that they won't sell or service to us in the U.S.. otherwise unless I win the big lottery and have one imported, I'll never be able to get one. Great video though as always and thanks for all you do Nick. Doug
Yep Doug that’s a major con! Issue is last time renault launched in USA it went horrid and you guys ain’t big fans of small hatchback cars I believe your not getting the ID3 for quite some time either!
I know the stereotypical American drives big gas guzzelling suv's or pickup trucks, but I own a 2008 Honda civic hybrid right now with 235000 miles. It is slightly more narrow than the standard civic with a nice drag coefficient but even me, being a somewhat wider individual like the roominess of it.
Since it is smaller and more narrow it will fit in places other cars won't, go through narrow openings and has a small turning radius. As long as you buy the low resistance rolling tires you can get in the mid fifties mileage wise average for a range of about 600 miles on a 12 gallon tank.
an you still use the app on all new models too cool the car before you get in or have it warm then? without it having to be plugged in?
Yes correct
looked at the Zoe 50, but went for an MG, I think the right decision so far! The front does look good on the 50 though.
I haven’t driven or reviewed the MG so can’t comment till I have
Anyone know how fast is the 22kw charging time compared to quick charging? Especially how much time to 80%. I'm just wondering how big is the difference, thanks!
Not got prefect time but a little maths should help
52kwh battery on 22kwh charging will take 2 hours to put 44kwh in the battery
A 50kw charger will take an hour to put 50kwh of power in the battery
Thank you! I bought a new Zoe and found your info helpful. I would like to see how to preheat from my house. I’m having trouble getting it to work. A little info. EBay has a key fob case with a place to attach your house keys. Thanks again for your video. Richard
Do you have the new zoe ze50 like the video or previous models?
I've had mine for nearly a week and hardly been able to drive it at all due to the lockdown :(
You got plenty of time to clean it and look at how Beautiful it is!
Mine was due in late April/early May. Don't mind if it is delayed a bit so that I'm not paying for a car that's just sitting around doing nothing! I can wait until the lockdown is over.
If the Zoe had adaptive cruise I would be much more interested in an upgrade. I suspect they will add it next year, the ZE40 got Android auto, more power and split rear seats a year into production. I think they wanted to get the ZE50 out this year to compete with PSA offerings but didn't have time to add that feature? Hopefully it will be available soon, standard cruise is pretty useless in UK traffic though I find the speed limiter plus my eyes quite useful.
The braking feature is 6 months from launch however no plans or info on adaptive cruise it a feature I do like very much
Thanks! Got my GT line last week. All good (very good!) But lack of pre-conditioning on the key fob is disappointing. Touch screen very responsive. Came with a removable boot insert which divides the space into compartments. In non-eco it's very quick off the line. Main annoyance is that My Renault app is not available in the UK. Unbelievable! Ciao.
Is the rear seat a 60:40 split now?
The boot insert was for first orders as they removed cloth dash, the my renault app should be here very very soon! Which extras did you get?
Hi frank zoes has 60/40’split since 2018/2019 on the ze40 models and still does
Was the boot insert offer specific to a dealer, or across the renault network?
Paul Godfrey if order was before they changed images on website to show cloth dash you got it free otherwise you can purchase it like you could of the ze40
Where is the My Renault App? UK not getting it? Like other items?
It’s coming to UK it’s just delayed
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If over-air upgrade activates adaptive cruise control and emergency braking I guess that will in theory reduce your insurance..? How would you negotiate that with your insurance company especially if it is by yearly subscription?
Insurance company adjustment fee may well negate any savings anyway.
Gawd...!
Changes like these features add a minor discount to policy’s but nothing massive they care more about the data of accidents than anything
well since when you take insurance out it does not ask you if the car has these or takes into account when you put in the reg I doubt it would be any lower
Agree, the ZOE is best EV in class. If only they retained those pros from previous models it would have been super!
100%
When you are saying that the automatic braking radar is due to come, is this through a software update?
Its not fitted yet from what i believe but seems to have the design on front of grill i've not asked the dealer to check if anythings fitted ill message and ask
@@NicolasRaimoCheers
I like your vid man, but Renault will update software, at the end of the day Renault are just here to make money... Doesn't stop me envying you lol! Really want a Zoe
How do you mean rusty sorry am confused by your comment on software? Great to hear you enjoy my videos !!
Mate, PLEASE keep at least one hand on the wheel when the vehicle is moving!. Thanks!!
Don't worry i had lane assist on :-p i also wasn't moving on some scenes and did a bluescreen effect on windows sssshhh
Nicolas Raimo Ok thanks, we don’t want the kids watching this getting into bad habits😀
Sorry dad
What effect do you think this worldwide lockdown will have on new car prices....
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Possibly on yours today, but I ordered the car on October, it was offered then.,
Neal that’s on all docs since launch in October
Oh dear. Range is good though! I'd have to get the CCS option though..
The brochure says ‘emergency brake assist’ IS ON THE CAR in the spec. Can you clarify? With all these changes I’m getting close to cancelling my car. Which is built and on the way to the dealership as we speak.
Emergency braking on the brochure says “6 months TBC”
This car does have Emergency Brake Assist (EBA) as standard, but won't have Auto Emergency Braking (AEB) until later in the year.
Emergency brake assist may be a system witch applies more force to the brakes even if you don't press the pedal fully if it detects an "emergency" braking. I think I've read it on the manual but my 2002 FIAT Stilo has it too, it's not a big deal. I hope I'm wrong.
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Really wish they'd kept the fabric on the dash, really set the interior off.
Agreed i loved it
I've always thought adaptive distance keeping should be mandatory in all new cars as a safety feature (constant and not just in cruise control) considering almost everybody drives too close on the motorway even though they think they don't. And how about a "keep left" warning if it sees you are in the middle of a three lane highway to keep those middle lane hoggers out.
The mind bogglers at all the little cons you mentioned. Does no one have any common sense at auto manufacturers?
I hope they've got rid of any piano black surfaces in the new one, I couldn't tell from your video.
Totally disagree with you. I have adaptive cruise control and and it does make mistakes.
Totally disagree on which part? What kind of mistakes and in which car have you experienced them? I'm not saying it should replace the driver but be a reliable driving aid if possible.
Have a 2018 Zoe and would really miss the preheat and flap open buttons on the remote.
Hoping renault can add both functions back with over the air updates
Agree with you Frank. Nothing my wife likes doing more than zapping the pre heat button on her 2018 zoe from inside the warmth of our house, whilst I am scraping the frost of my ICE car!!!
@@NicolasRaimo yes but they can't refit the buttons remotely 🗝️🖥️🤪
I thought "flap open" was possible with the fob,it's just the preheat button is gone?
@@frankowot4 I can't verify but the button in the cockpit does not have a mechanical link. It has very few reasons to. Hence, why not incorporating it in the remote? Or the app. It doesn't make sense at all.
Plus, the air conditioning.... why, Renault, why?
Extra for CCS and no tech, but I don't think so. Just goes to show what great cars Hyundia produce
Just seen a review from Ireland, they get CCS as standard on the GT line and full "leather" interior. Looks like Renault have kept the GT line name, but dropped the spec level when bringing it to the UK. At launch the Iconic looked a good option, now to get the same trim level I have to pay more for the GT line. The key fob change is a very odd decision, having created it before, why remove the feature from new models.
The GT line in Ireland is way way more expensive than here in UK so it’s not a fair compassion. Iconic can be spec’d up to Gt line but it’s cheaper to buy GT line
@@NicolasRaimo I hadn't appreciated that (but still a little disappointed) will have to see post lockdown what happens to car prices and my budget. Pre-lockdown I was hoping to upgrade my ZE40 for one with CCS. No home charging in a lockdown is tricky with just 22kwh, less than ideal normally for my longer journeys.
do you sell renault zoe's
Sell all cars from my work, Tesla, Nissan leafs and renault zoes
The fob pre-heating and open/stop-charge issue is a big usability problem. Renault defaulted to a petrol/diesel fob to cut costs. Due to delays in production and new model gremlins expected I opted to get a Megane GT Line (diesel-blue) while keeping my existing Zoe. Unlike some, I like the battery lease which has been useful since some service items were covered by RCI. Thanks for the review, it was useful to see when it will be time to upgrade, maybe in a few years...
We looked at a Zoe GT line, but the back seats are really restrictive, we test drove the car with four adults and the passengers in the back were cramped and uncomfortable, even for a 20 minute long lift they were complaining.......not good ....so not practical for family life.......loved the car though...☺.
I find it very usable personally how often do you have 4 adults in car? if a lot then maybe hatchback style wrong type of car for you maybe your better suited to a saloon.
This will replace our Fiesta in the next couple of months (hopefully, as was ordered in Feb), and the Zoe is slightly wider then the Ford believe it or not. Cabin height in the back is about the same.
So when will it come to the United States?
When Americans start liking hatchbacks? I wish you guys had it this is such an amazing car!
@@NicolasRaimo Renault at Billiancourt is reconfiguring VANS FOR WORK. Will this finally come to the Guadalajara Plant?
i am in a pickle which you may be able to help I really wanted a ev and for me leasing a car just works out better as I want to be able to hand a car back and get another though price are usually always more...sooo right now I have a old 2.2 2007 civic diesel, evs usually are more expensive to lease...see I could get a ds3 crossback prestige model for £147 a month (8k miles a year) which fits with how much I can afford as my hrs at work were cut and I have to factor in insurance cost (£1500 upfront)
so lease means no tax to pay anyway, no MOT being a new car and im getting a car on 24month contract and id not have to service it either with the miles id put on, id prob get away with 1 or 2 tyres in the 24month.
OR If I try spend a tiny bit more (though for me a bit is a lot) I can get a Renault Hatch 5Dr
E R110 52kWh 107 i Iconic 5Dr Auto for £169 a month (£2036 upfront) from 1 company and then from another I can get a Renault Zoe Hatchback
100KW i GT Line R135 50KWh 5dr Auto for £177.18 ( £1,793.62 upfront)
neither come with the rapid charging as when I look at those they are well over £200 a month and I think I could be ok without it really.
the only difference other than engine which tbh im not about about how fast it can go to 60mph the iconic one says it comes with Z.E. Interactive - 3 Year Subscription
and Z.E. Connect - 3yr Contract the GT one doe not have these listed and the GT comes with the bigger screen but I think the 7inch could be ok for me
no idea what to do haha, my budget is super tight and insurance for a EV for me is more than a petrol, even with the breakdown not added as you get that with a lease car.
Lets say I had just enough to get either of those zoe models do you think the iconic model is ok
If your going flat out 60mph from full you won’t get range shown it be likely near 150/200 range depending on weather you can use EV database to get a better idea.
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3D badge would probably fall off like the original blue badge
It was a hologram encased behind something
I like the STARBUCKS there. Too bad STARBUCKS United State is not doing the same thing.
I think the chargers were run by the fuel station there
Mine like yours is stuck at the docks too.
I’ve not ordered one Neal
Ours is there too Neal
Key changes , unable to open charge flap, preheat major blunders . Clothe not on facia glad to see for uk spec , didn’t like on preproduction. Price still too high , ccs should be standard considering 50 dc charging old tec , should have been 100 but consistent 45/50 better than spec 100 for other vehicles that only occasionally get over 50 kw
Am happy with 50kw charging as it comes with 22kw AC and that for me makes up for it
Bit confused with people moaning about the charge flap. Wouldn't you usually press the open button before getting out of the car after parking? It would only be an issue if you've left the car unplugged and then wanting to plug it in.
@@rustyjoints4857 Why would you press the button every time you park if you don't need to charge?
I don’t believe the 250 miles claim Nick, maybe do a video at some point to test the claim. I’d say 200 at best normal and maybe 120-140 in winter, still not bad tbh. Also, do you know if android auto/CarPlay work on the drivers HUD too or just in the centre infotainment screen.
Am getting them numbers in a ZE40 now!
In current single figure weather conditions I'm getting about 210miles in ze50. I reckon wltp figure will be easy to beat in summer 250 + easy
Kevin Booker good numbers, I’m awaiting mine from Evezy although pointless atm with working from home!
I'm currently averaging between 4.5-4.7 mpkwh so not quite as efficient as ioniq which I'm getting 5.2mpkwh out of.
First! Woohoo 😅
Haha later release time then ;)
Peugeot e-208 much nicer inside and out in my opinion but each to their own.
Interior better than ID 3? Really ?
I've sat in both i prefer the zoe interior less in your face and well designed
@@NicolasRaimo Maybe design. But it always subjective. What about build quality?
@@ParokonnyiIgor I've only seen show cars at motorshows of the ID3 so no comment can be made till the road cars are out. The build quality on this new zoe however is... VERY VERY high there's another video of me in the ZE50 check that out!
@@NicolasRaimo Battery Life drove both cars and he says "ID 3 way better". I can say that my e-golf way better than ze40 my brother owned. Although I've heard many time that ze50 improved a lot from ze40. Thanks for your response
Why on earth do manufacturers feel the need to put any form of "Lane keeping" rubbish on these cars, guess what folks there's supposed to be a human sat in front of the steering wheel (you know the big round thing you're suppose to have your hands on) paying attention to doing the thing you are suppose to be doing i.e. driving the car.
IMHO theses "features" just make drivers pay even less attention to the road, its bad enough out there now with out all this rubbish fitted to vehicles, just more junk to go wrong :-(
Couldn't agree more, there is far to many bells and whistles, and bloody apps.
@@12alocin Dotn get me wrong I love the Zoe but just cut out all the junk and concentrate batteries and motors, stuff that really matters :-)
"Active engine switch off" - absolute failure.
Great Car thou!
This car is too expensive for its features and quality. Also the range is much lower than they say.
not really. in good conditions, you can get 400km at 90km/h.
Zoe gets better now only 9 years behind Tesla.
Buying an electric car is a big move & expense why would I buy this over a model 3 that has so many more features, infrastructure & advanced standard autopilot. The top of the range Zoe with no autopilot is not so far from the price of a Model 3. When you are sitting in your Zoe looking at a guy in his Model 3 who will have the biggest smile? When the model Y arrives it's a game-changer again.
The cheapest model 3 over £10,000 more to most people that’s unreachable amount more
Nicolas Raimo I’m not really talking about most people it’s a comparison people should understand what you get for the extra cost so one can understand the cost of the Zoe. I mean just the autopilot & infrastructure is worth more than 10 grand.
Maybe to you Frank £10,000 may be small change but not to the majority of the new EV owners that will be coming on board. It's the same with any make of car. If you like and can afford a DB7 then buy one if your budget only lets you consider a second hand Mondeo then that's where you are.
£26k Zoe or £40k Tesla, comparison is irrelevant. Zoe is still 10 years ahead of Tesla (or any American car) for handling and I'm guessing Tesla build quality is starting to catch up with Europe now. A few extra gizmos only accessible hrougha touch screen is not worth the extra money.
@@jameschapman4824 I agree if it's a question of a cash layout might be worth looking at leasing. I was comparing both cars to value for money not who could afford them. If I had to choose between a DB7 or a Mondeo it would be neither, then I would prefer the Zoe 52.