COCKPIT WINDOW OPENED IN MID-AIR | United B737 Emergency Return at Bradley
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- 18/APR/2023
United B739 performing flight from Bradley to Dulles was on the initial climb when the pilots declared an emergency reporting a cokpit window had just popped open and would request to return immediately.
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Closed and locked?
Are you aware of AA1958 out of CMH this morning (Sunday, April 23rd) that had a bird strike on climb out and scared half the city with compressor stalls and fireballs over the most densely populated neighborhoods?
@@williatyholy....! 😱
I think we're all thinking about the same incident from the past, I'm glad it happened at low altitude
Yup, British Airways Flight 5390 when the pilot got properly screwed cause his windows weren't screwed properly. Maintenance eyeballed the replacement screws which ended up being 2/100ths of an inch too narrow. Window popped out at 17,000 ft on ascent, and the pilot was half-sucked out of the window. Miraculously, he survived.
@@hotlavatube what about that Sichuan Airlines Flight from 2018 (the windshield also opened)
@@IndonesiaMajapahitNDPCA Well spotted, that was Sichuan Airlines Flight 8633. For the 5390 case, the pilots had undone their seatbelts for the drink service, whereas the pilot in the 8633 still had his seatbelt fastened, so perhaps 8633 didn't exit the plane as dramatically as 5390, though the details sounded scant.
Would have been pretty awesome if they landed, slowed down just enough to close the window then TOGA and took off again
Touch and close and go.
True that, I would crank up manual cabin pressure that will push the air generated out of the window and help close it. It should have started pressurizing from lift off.
@@JSFGuy errrr what? How can you increase cabin pressure when there is a giant hole in plane for the air to go out of?
@@tomstravels520 you select manual pressurization the bleed air cranks up flowing into the cabin, the outflow valves are closed leaving only the window as a means for the air to escape. This is large volume blowing out of that window... This will help closing it.
@@JSFGuy and what about the 150mph winds forcing the window back? Do you really think the pressure would overcome that? The air doesn’t get funnelled behind the window and gather behind it to provide extra force
Do you have any audio of the American Airlines plane that caught fire on the runway on April 20 @KCLT?
Affirm, working on it
Pilot sounded super freaked out at first but down quickly.
I don't think he was freaked out. Just task saturated. It is easy to forget how much is going on in the cockpit when they need to come back for a landing (reprogram computer, do checklists, etc., they don't just turn around and go back), but to do it with a window open so you can barely hear ATC just adds to it.
@@elizabeth5985 Yeah, that makes more sense.
At least pilot wasn't sucked halfway out like BA flight 5390
Right, no cabin pressure built up, seat belted locked.
@@JSFGuy The pressure builds up before you leave the ground....
@@daftvader4218 The pressure is similar between the cabin and the air outside.
The window just *_popped open_* ! Lol. _If it sounds a bit loud in the cockpit on taxi-out, your window is probably unlocked._
Well, maybe defective lock.
Skipped checklist item?
Maybe the United pilots handed the company credit card to the fuel guy through the window and forgot to close it after the transaction was complete. 😂
We have clearance, Clarence. Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?
We didn’t hear anything about this locally. Wow this is quite crazy.
FO said they weren’t feeling well and just wanted to get some fresh air
Why the soul on-board information cannot just be retrieved from a database ATC would have access to? Is that intended to have the pilot say it, ot the ATC requesting it. I find that in emergency situations this communication could be avoided so that the pilots to focus on what they have to do. Appreciate the insights :)
Especially because that information doesn't always get passed to the next controller, so the pilots get asked multiple times. Very inefficient, and very distracting to the pilots in an already stressful situation. Doesn't make sense to me.
Another case of an emergency, they say they can not hear, but let's give them to another channels to call a different ATC and increase the number of things that could go wrong.
They have to talk to the ATC that controls the airspace they are flying in. Doesn’t help to talk to departure when you coming in for a landing.
Pilot is like shit I know I checked that window that’s my story and I’m sticking to it. 😂😂 must have forgotten that one on the checklist. I wonder how much crop dusting pays?😂
How common is it to have windows open whilst on the ground? Presumably no ground aircon or APU running during turnarounds. Aren’t there position switches for the window position and unlocking handle? It seems rather slack of someone to close a window and not ensure it is locked.
No position switches or warning to say the side window is open on the Boeing types I have flown. Easy to get a long headset cord stuck in the window when it is closed. I prefer to avoid opening the windows on the ground unless I truly have to. When you are ready to go and close them in a hurry, this kind of thing will happen.
I have never had this problem on the B 747-400......
How about some preflight checks buddy ???
would be nice if the pilots stated that a cockpit window popped window... not a passenger window... on second thought, which would have been more serious? cockpit window or passenger window? many, many years ago, I was on a Pan Am 747-100(200?) and sitting in Clipper Class on the upper deck. The outer glass on the window next to me cracked and it freaked me out. One of the pilots or the flight engineer actually came to my seat and looked at it. He said "oh, it's alright, we have this happening all the time... would you mind keeping an eye on it and call the stewardess if the crack gets bigger?" (not very comforting, since we were halfway between LAX and HNL)
United 1274 cleared for touch and go on the window lock
ATC needs a coffee and mumbles/wispers/changes his speech flow (sloooooowwwww, than super fast...) If you are introverted and shy and can't communicate, then change job!
Introverts are often excellent communicators. He's just unfocused, and trying to catch up.
would there have been a warning light that the window wasn't locked? or maybe a checklist item to check for before takeoff?
Window closed item is usually in the 'before start' checklist
If you hear that pilots had a window pop open and are having trouble hearing, maybe don’t whisper…
A lot of people say you can close the window in flight, but every time I see it on youtube, it seems pretty crazy and they all return to field.
Maybe they needed some fresh air.......Glad they got back safe and sound.
Mint
Seriously?
That's a hell of a blow dryer 😂
Watt? This is strange...
Wonder which side it was on.
The report on that is going to be interesting. I thought there was no way they could be opened in flight, much less open themselves.
Only when the pressure difference is enough that human cannot pull it open.
It could have opened near or after V1, and an open window isn't enough IMHO to justify a high speed abort.
@@tomstravels520 Still, it has a latch on the handle, so it shouldn't pop open. Once the latch is released, and I guess either they will say it wasn't properly latched, or the latch failed, then the window can just pop in and slide back. If there's positive pressure inside it would be very difficult to open and more so as altitude increased. But on takeoff there's aerodynamic pressure on the outside, so I can see it would be hard or impossible to close again. Unless you reset landing altitude to something much lower, which might get you enough help from the pressurization system. I doubt that's an acceptable solution though.
Boing procedure on what to do if a window opens during take-off: ua-cam.com/video/bTYT7ERrw_U/v-deo.html&ab_channel=CaptainDanRichworth
Shouldn't this a pan pan pan instead of a emergency ?
Why?
@@VASAviation Because it is standard FAA to convey a LEVEL of an emergency. ..
FAA AIM 4-2-1C. ..
@@VASAviation a emergency is all hands on deck there is a major problem that puts the aircraft or the ppl in it or the ppl. around the aircraft at risk . A pan is a call that there having issues and need more attention from the ATC but nothing problematic
It's at the discretion of the pilots
Is there a reason that a PAN was not sufficient in this instance?
Because they are clueless
How scary! Was it a main windshield or the sliding side window?
The main windshield cannot open
Another of your videos shows this has happened to another 739ER a few years ago! This is either a coincidence or something else...
Correct. It was a Delta that time
Muffled Harry Nilsson in the background singing: "Think about letting the rest of the world go fly a kite"
When they made the next to last turn they were almost directly over Westover Airport in Massachusetts. A former AFB with a nearly 12,000-foot runway. Why not land there?
Why land there?
Why would you go to a random airport when the airport you just took off from is just a bit further and the plane is not on fire?
@@VASAviation To get down on the ground as quickly as possible.
@@R32R38 This isn't a situation where you need to get down as quickly as possible. They aren't on fire, they have engines, and they have flight controls, no need to hurry.
The only time you need to rush in an airplane is if it's on fire.
@@byronhenry6518 or potential fuel exhaustion
Mit
You all will think I'm crazy but this what actually happed. I worked on all models of 737's for decades. The sliding window cannot and did not open in flight, what really happened was one of the pilots inadvertently left something hanging out the window and got it closed, likely a headset cord which then was pounding on the side window making a huge noise. These pilots are just claiming a window popped open for a reason to return and land. I have seen and repaired this exact scenario more than once.
If something was banging it would make a very different noise compared what we can hear on the radio in the background
@@tomstravels520 If the window was open you would hear nothing other than a horrendous wind noise. And again the window can not open inflight.
@@andresmith9212 it can if not locked properly. And we don’t know which side it was opened on. Probably pilot opposite so it wouldn’t be as loud and crew may have slowed down to reduce the effect.
@@tomstravels520 Tom, you obviously know little to nothing about 737 cockpit windows. I have replaced 100's of them and way more than few after 'return to field' with what was left of headset cords hanging out the sliding windows. I am not just a google expert about this.
Very easy to get the headset cord stuck in the window; I've done it myself but the other pilot spotted it before we left the gate. But, would things be so noisy with just the cord stuck in the window? In your experience andre, was it just the cord that was damaged?
I never had this problem especially when on the B747-400 as I was now such a senior, experienced Sky God and always double checked both windows..
That's what advancing years and around 30,000 hours does for you.....
Pay attention you young aviators.....!!!
A boeing 747 400 doesn't have any openable, sliding cockpit windows...so you never need to check if they are locked.
There is a unique escape hatch on the roof though.
I'm amused by the ground controller's naivety. Asking the pilots if they just want to taxi back to the runway to take off again?
Makes me feel like the Controller had seen this one before...
If they still have the fuel to make it to their destination, and brake temperatures are ok, then it’s a valid question.
@@EdOeuna they just had some kind of mechanical failure with the window. Most likely there is a faulty latch that requires maintenance to repair. Even if it is just open and they can secure it properly on their own, they also just landed after declaring an emergency. That means they have to file a safety report, and potentially pull the CVR for an investigation, both of which require going back to the gate. It is common procedure for pilots to be taken off duty for the day after handling an emergency. For all of these reasons, this would not be a case that the pilots could just take off again.
@@spelldaddy5386 - I was thinking of it more like a RTO when’re you can give it another shot if things are all ok. I would have thought, as someone else has said on here, that it may have been a mechanical failure as opposed to pilot failure (similar to recent 777 taking off with nose pin inserted), and so the consequences for the pilots are far less. I’ve had failures which have grounded the aircraft but didn’t remove me from flying duties.
@@EdOeuna but even if the aircraft is grounded, they still have to go back to the gate to switch aircraft
yet another reason why not to fly
Why? Nobody was ever in any danger here.
Why they don’t reduce speed to close the side window
Because that's not the procedure
stall speed in a 737 is around 150 knots. good luck getting your hand out the window
Presumably the window can slide forward and close. I’m guessing there isn’t a window crank to close it like other Boeings.
@@EdOeuna Yes, no crank on the 737. Still can't understand why they could not close it.
@@philipjamesparsons - interesting because someone else on here has posted a Boeing video showing the window opening on take off and how easy it is to close. Clearly there is something else going on here, or pilots not knowing that there is a procedure to close the window.
For the 777 the checklist simply says “close the window, check pressurisation…” suggesting that the window is easily closed at air speeds above V2+15.
Edit - 30 seconds of Googling gives me a 737 QRH, albeit not for this airline. It contains a checklist and instructions for a window being open…
Captain took control and flew the plane single pilot after the female FO left her window open.
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Sounds like someone didn't do a checklist item. but I am not not a piolot.