Should you use an emboidery frame? When to use one and when not!
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- In this video I talk about using an embroidery frame vs not using a frame, the best way to work with and without and how to choose which method to use! With some additional support from Ginger Cat...
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00:00 - Introduction
01:43 - 2 methods of stitching
08:34 - Advantages of using a frame
11:31 - Disadvantages of using a frame
13:32 - Advantages of working in the hand
16:15 - Disadvantages of working in the hand
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I never knew people stitched without a frame. Don't think I could do it, but it's interesting to watch. I love how the cat always helps out! 😄😸
Love the breakdown about tension- it should match whatever the finished product will be.
Hi, Ginger Cat!!
I always embroidered in the hand for clothing. It’s actually easier with a larger piece because you can kind of wrap the fabric around your hand to tension it. That’s hard to do with a little piece of fabric.
I prefer no frame for my cross-stitch and needlepoint, because it seems like I can work much faster working only from the front. I recently did my first Becky Hogg kit (I guess it is considered gold work?), and it definitely required a hoop.
I have finally worked out how to join. For others that may be having a problem I found it easy as pie when I did it on the computer instead of the I pad. Problem solved👍🏻😊
It worked out for me too 😀
If I recall correctly (and my memory can be dodgy!) sashiko needles are also longer because of how they are held with the thimble at the base of the middle finger.
The thimbles are yubanuki thimbles a lot of the time. Great to make from cardboard, fabric, silk thread. Can be found on UA-cam.
I was taught from a very young age to embroider without a frame and it wasn’t till I started quilting that I was introduced to a frame and now I use one for pretty much for everything and loosen it in the frame if I don’t want full tension . Works for me.
Have learnt so much from you Sarah. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, experience and love of embroidery.
I love your assistant!! 😻
Very interesting video! Thank you, Sarah. I love how Ginger cat hung out for the whole video
Fast asleep! He's not the most entertaining cat on UA-cam...
@@SarahHomfrayEmbroidery when you’re that cool, you don’t have to be entertaining! 🐈
I love how Ginger-cat just lays there sleeping through your whole lesson. She's such a good girl. 😊
I find your lessons to be very helpful, and relatable. Thank you ❤️
He's getting a bit middle aged now so he sleeps alot!!
@@SarahHomfrayEmbroidery Oops, so sorry Sir Ginger Cat.
Age catches up to us all, if we are lucky enough. 😊🧓🏼✌🏼
Thank you for this most welcomed video. It was more than helpful for me as sometimes while stitching my hand gets tired and I have to shake it out. Sounds somewhat awful but I do love stitching and so know when to rest my hands. I sometimes put down my work and pick it up days later. I do the same with my knitting also. My Mom always said Idle hands are the devil's workshop. No Mom Idle hands ate just resting from a favorite hobby!
Re puckering, I've got a couple of (totally unscientifically tested) theories.
1) that it can sometimes be due to density. I mean that if you're working with a loosely woven fabric, or one with deliberate holes in it (e.g. the kind of fabric used for cross-stitch), there's lots of room within the fabric for the bulk of the thread of the stitches that you'll be adding, but if you're stitching on a very dense fabric (i.e. one with almost no space between the woven threads) and you add lots and lots of embroidered stitches which are very close together, the fabric may bulge because there's no space within the fabric to accommodate the extra material (a bit like if you get into a bath which is already very full of water and then it overflows).
2) Another thing I think might be a factor is the direction of the threads in the fabric and whether you're going with the direction of the existing threads or pulling them a bit out of alignment (e.g. if you're sewing a curved line, it's easier for that to make the fabric pucker than if you're embroidering on the horizontal or vertical).
And maybe all of this is less noticeable when using a frame because the frame itself exerts a strong pull on the fabric. [Hmm. This really is beginning to sound like physics and ideas about gravitational pulls and density! It will probably sound totally ridiculous to anyone who knows anything about physics. Sorry!]
Although I probably should have said first that I'm sure the most common sources of puckering are pulling the stitches too tight (if working the hand-held method in particular, but also easy to do if you've using a frame but haven't got the fabric held taut enough).
I think it's both of those things Laura, and add onto that our own tensions from busy stressful lives that we transfer into our stitching!
Neater with a frame I find but somehow more relaxing without, lots of interesting stuff in this video - thank you x
You are truly a cat lover. Loving seeing your handsome ginger boy.
Hi. I hope you are having a terrific day. I had another busy day in my sewing room and I feel like I'm only clipping away at a mountain of fabric scraps! LOL, I hope you have a fabulous week ahead! Thank you for posting this video and your time!
really helpful! and please make sure that Ginger Cat is in all of your vids.
I have found that if I use a frame, I get a cramp in my hand, so I stitch free hand. If I do a large project, I roll the bottom of the fabric so that I don't have to flick the fabric backwards and forward.
Everything has always been in a frame--embroidery and quilting--and I appreciate your comments about feeling tired from tension. I started a new projects a few weeks ago. Once I got going, it was nice to be able to turn the fabric and get at what was needed next more easily.
When I was taught to embroider (a looong time ago) my stitch mentor would say, "don't scoop in a hoop." I have watched many UA-camrs scoop in hoops, and their stitching looks nice. But you can tell that there is pull on the fabric.
What does scoop in a hoop mean please?
@@gailfraser9617 scoop in the hoop is when you stitch from topside of the fabric when it's hooped. The sewing motion scoops the fabric with the needle and can distort the fabric. Hopefully that makes sense🙂 Thank you for asking💙
I wish I knew that phrase before I made the video Karen! Excellent, don't scoop in a hoop...
@@karenfollett4950 Hhhhmmmm v interesting! Perhaps Sarah should have you as a guest on the part 2 of this episode or another in order to demonstrate.
At primary school in Jamaica I learned embroidery and then, during the pandemic, I returned to it. This time I was introduced to the hoop. So all this is quite fascinating to me.
Thank you ladies for sharing.
@@gailfraser9617 Sarah demonstrated it beautifully in her video. I think the "don't scoop in the hoop" term was one that my teacher used as one of those "sticks in your brain to remember terms." Lol.
Thank you for the video, fabulous advice, all of it. I'm noticing that as I get older, my hands are getting more strained so I'm using a frame and a stand more often. It really helps 😊
Learn something new every time. Thank you so much. I learned embroidery without a frame. After a long break I got back into it via slow stitch challenges. Most of that is done without a frame and often it makes deliberate use of the “puckering” it give in the fabric. Tried usung a hoop but don’t like it. After studying your videos I did frame a larger piece I did last year. That worked nice. Reasons for trying the framing were that it was a larger piece and that I wanted to present it framed and tensioned. Now consider both method when starting a new pieces. Most I still do unframed, making deliberate use of the way it impacts the fabric and the slight irregularity it gives to the stitches. 💕
Aww aww
Lovely to find a new video up-loaded (and so helpful too!). I am a new embroiderer and this helped me to decide which method to use. Thank you so much Sarah. Lottie x
You are welcome Lottie!
I'm a hoop girl . I've a huge tapestry hoop and much smaller wooden ones 😁 glad to see I'm not alone with cats sitting on my work 😅 🙃
Thank you! I just found I bought a bunch of hoops that I will not need...lol But that is good, for now I at least will spare me a lot of headaches. I have to learn every stitch, other then the regular sewing stitches, so there a hoop may be a good thing, to practice. I am binchwatching your videos, and wish I would have found you earlier. I don't have my stuff here yet, it is still on the way, but I already know I bought a lot of things I will not need, and there are some things I did not buy, that I will need.. It will take a while before I can start decorating my dresses.. Much love and gratitude to you from the Netherlands, and have a beautiful time! 🤗❤
Great information. I had been wondering about doing embroidery without a frame and now I know. Thank you Sarah, you are always so helpful!
I always use a frame for crossstitch (can't do it without one) but am unable to use a frame for any other type of embroidery (I never do sophisticated stuff like tambour, gold, etc. - that's for pros imo & I'm light years away from that level. :) It's easy to do Fr knots & bullion without a hoop: you just lay a folded blanket on the table or use a cushion in your lap, which also helps with your posture when you stitch without a table, I think. Great video, as always! :)
thank you so much your teaching inspire me a lot😊😊
Good morning Sarah, I’ve not used a frame to stitch before, although I have a small round I tried it but didn’t like it much. I like sewing “free style” . You explain things so well, I may pick up a larger ring and give it a go. Thanks so much Sarah have a wonderful rest of your weekend ❤️🌹🙏
I love my frames.. and my hoop holders
Mine are definitely neater too in a frame!
I love this advice. Very helpful. Thank you!
Just discovered your videos and am learning so much. Thank you!
Very informative! Thank you 💫
I find stitching without a frame feels more natural for me but I do both.
As a hand quilter I have been using a very large hoop frame like the standard embroidery frame. Even if you are doing machine quilting you still need to use a hoop so that you can pull,out all of the pins used to hold the 3 layers together, plus by not using a frame for your quilting you run the risk of the back fabric folding over. The difference is with hand quilting you do not pull the fabric tight as in the embroidery hoop. The other type of frame for quilting is a full sized frame for the whole width of the quilt and all 3 layers are placed on 3 rods at the top and then placed together on one rod at the bottom where you first start working on the quilting this type of frame is used in both hand quilting and long arm machine quilting. I prefer the full sized quilting frame for hand quilting as you can leave the work under tension at all times and it’s easier to cover the work up when not sitting at the quilting working on it.
I do all my quilting by hand including the squares for the top, I have a machine for dress making and for joining the quilt squares together at the end.
It’s only since I started hand quilting that I also started to use a hoop for my embroidery work up until then I had always done it lose since then I have loved using a frame or hoop for all my embroidery projects even for clothing only when doing clothing I don’t put the fabric under tension just enough to hold the garment for me so I can use both hands on he work.
@6:56 that fighting the tension and smooshing of fabric mucks things up. I've heard "don't scoop in the hoop!" now burned into my ears. Whenever a UA-cam embroidery tutorial shows that scooping in the hoop thing I leave the channel figuring that person isn't really a professional or well trained. I'm really glad you're demonstrating the difference and noting that it stretches and distorts the fabric.
Great video. Thank you.
Thank You for the frame vs hand information
Lots of excellent info Thank you.
Thanks for the info
Found this channel recently and when I went out to buy some yarn I also bought some embroidery items because I really want to learn 😁😁
Very helpful thanks
I love stitching cross stitch projects on linen in hand. I love the feel of the fabric and can be quite quick using a sewing type of stitch to make the x which can all be done from the front. It’s great for single color samplers. It’s highly portable with no bulky frame to deal with so it’s great to do during a lunch break or at kids’ games and meets where you sit around for hours.
Thank you for this video very useful
My mum made the most exquisite embroidery. No hoop. Beautiful christening robes, peasant blouses, embellished dresses....
Thank you so much for this video...I learned a lot! You have a pretty ginger 🐈 cat!
Thank you for this video. For me , it depends on what fabric I am using and what type of embroidery I am doing. For cut work, Hardanger, and cross stitch on Aida I work in hand. If I am using Linen I always use a frame on a stand.
Your cat looks comfortable ❤
Great video!
When hooping a project I cut a piece of lightweight interfacing and hoop it on top with my fabric under it. Then I cut out the center. So when I’m holding the hoop the interfacing protects the fabric
Oh definitely in a hoop or frame. Freehand is good.however!☝️not when it comes to embroidery.😉💖#Trial& Error! We live& learn .👏👍😎☺️🙂
Thank you
Ginger cat: Yawn & stretch.
Me: You had me at meow! 😍
Nice....
Still unable to join even using the new address way. Is it the country? New Zealand. It’s a great idea and I would love to be part of it. Thanks for this video I found it very helpful
Loved your video! I've got a bit of a follow up question: does the fabric matter?
I've got some jersey-knit tshirts I'm planning on mending and embroidering over any ugly bits, and I was wondering if the stretchy fabric would be easier to manage in hoop or in the hand.
Thanks again for making these videos!
What would you recommend for embroidering the corners of things? Like the corners of handkerchiefs?
Will probably have to hold it in your hand! Or you can do a complex arrangement of sewing it to another piece of fabric temporarily and then pinning that to a frame
Hi Ginger Cat❤
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I use a roller bar frame for my larger cross stitch pieces. I was wondering if it would be necessary to relax the tension of the frame every now and then by undoing the lacing at the sides of the fabric and unscrewing the bars.
No need really I don't think Jeremy on a roller bar frame, just on ring frames because they can damage the fabric
I am interested in joining your video. Didnt really understand what or how can you please let me know. I love your videos
Did you mean the membership Mary? Check out this video here:
ua-cam.com/video/ecCVBVoMzXc/v-deo.html
Membership works best on a desk top computer, if you only have an Apple device follow the link in the description below the video
I use the no hoop method for clothing....can't always get a hoop in there,
I tried without a frame & it was awful, my stitches were loose, uneven & just untidy. I do however stitch Sashiko as well, that is so much easier without a frame, as you mentioned the idea is to get multiple stitches on your needle at the same time. Not practical with a frame. I have to use the shorter needle tough, I find the long ones a little unweildy! Nice as always to see your supervisor hard at it!
Hi Sarah, thank you for all the information. You said about working to the tension you want it to be at when it's finished, which is something I had never even thought about before, but I was wondering, if large pieces of work such as a frontal or wall hanging need a frame, while I know something like crewel work for example, the stitched area could be rolled around bars to accommodate the size while stitching it, how do you manage a large piece that has any goldwork on it, which I assume would get damaged if the completed areas got rolled up?, thanks.
You have to get a mega big slate frame Rebecca! Or work the piece in smaller panels and stitch them together afterwards....
Oh thank you very much for answering that Sarah, I just couldn't work out how it would be done, now I know!, thanks xx
Hi I would like to see embroidery with ribbon, I bought a book but I couldn't do it then I read that you have to keep it on top? I love Daffodils and Bluebells think they would look better with ribbon what do you think? Thanks 👍
We have a whole playlist on ribbon embroidery Veronica, check it out here:
ua-cam.com/play/PLC2TZFIW8ZoO2af7jMncN1zv2gxX8704X.html
Oh Great Thanks xx
Hi, how can I replace the hoop screw for anything else for display? I really don't like the look of it. I'm scared that if I replace it, the hoop will unloose, and the fabric might fall off. Thank you.
Very interesting and informative! Would you recommend doing ribbon embroidery without a hoop? Thanks
Easier to have it in a hoop so you have two hands to control the ribbon with Lizzy
What if you want to do very detailed work for blanket? I think you have to have a drum tight fabric in a hoop. Lets say I want to embroider a flower 12", 15" or bigger, should I be using a frame? What kind of frame? Just found your channel. It's so educational. I'm new to embroidery but like the realistic detailed embroidering and going that direction.
See my video on frames Tracy!
@@SarahHomfrayEmbroidery I just did a "frames" search on your channel. Score! A goldmine of information on frames. I probably will find the answer to my question. What frames to use for what I want to do is such a mystery to me. Thanks for creating these videos.
Question: What can you do if you pick the wrong sized hoop? I have a piece 50% finished in a hoop that is too small. Circle vs square piece. The plan was to just move the hoop down the piece but it is narrower and loses tension. Any ideas? I thought about pinning fabric to the piece to help with tension but an a little worried that the resulting tension may be uneven.
I would invest in another hoop or frame Megan that fits your piece. If there isn't one big enough, search for roller bar frames
Which frame should I use to embroider round a beret please ? Thanks !
I would work that in your hand I think mivvisma
Hi Sarah
I bought a 9 in adjustable hoop for my cross stitch project.
I have a 11 count canvas but the hoop that I bought has a top raised middle which will not fit the bottom concave middle when trying to fit together.
The canvas is too thick to fit the hoop
It only cost $6.95 so not much of a loss.
Why would they make a hoop like that if using a cross stitch project with thick canvas?
I suggest you take it back and get a different one Thomas?
I have a 40cm x30cm piece of fabric that i am going to embroider. Can i still use a hoop but will it stretch do you think? The material is calico. Open to suggestions. 😀
I would suggest a bar or roller frame for this size Roberta
How do you put fabric in a hoop without distorting the fabric?
See my video on hoops and frames!
Sarah, what kind of camera do you use to get such great close-up video?
We have a 4K Panasonic video recorder Stephanie. The 4K part is the magic bit!
@@SarahHomfrayEmbroidery Thank you for responding so quickly! Your channel has brought so much comfort during the COVID pandemic!
When using a hoop, do we have to get the lines in the fabric straight or just make sure the fabric is tight? I try to get the lines, especially in aida fabric, as straight as I can, but I don't know if it's necessary. The button hole stitch looks a lot like the blanket stitch I think. I wish I could get the membership...maybe eventually I can.
Not sure about your first question, but re button hole stitch and blanket stitch, Sarah's got a video here about them and the only difference seems to be how close together the vertical parts are: ua-cam.com/video/B9GJqsXnMl4/v-deo.html
@@lauravivanco That's what I was thinking about the stitches. I'll watch that video. Thanks.
Buttonhole and blanket stitch are the same stitch. As far as keeping your ground fabric threads straight, yes you do need to do so if working counted thread work. It’s not necessary for freehand embroidery, but some people like to do it as far as possible
They are worked the same way Catz but are different in the spacing of the stitches!
Yes try and line up the grain of your fabric so that it is horizontal/vertical Heather, it will make your stitching much neater. Buttonhole and blanket stitch are worked the same way but have different spacing. Laura has kindly put the link to that video in her comment!
Does anyone have a stand they would recommend?
I’m wondering if this is why I have issues… I use both methods; without frame for slow stitching (have a thick felt pad underneath when doing knot stitches. Frame for set pieces. But I have health problems and spend most of my time lying in bed or chair. I would like to have a frame holder but I don’t sit at a table; so what do you think about ones that go between your legs? Also my hands and fingers are getting very sore, but I don’t know how to use a thimble… or any other tools that you might recommend? Thank you
Maybe look for a frame that stands on the floor and will come over your chair/bed Susan? Google floor standing embroidery frames and look for one with joints in it that you can adjust. I don't use thimbles, but if I find the needle is sticking in my I just put a sticking plaster on in the appropriate place!
@@SarahHomfrayEmbroidery thank you. I hadn’t thought of something as simple as a plaster 😊
My little cross stitch projects I don’t use a frame
I cannot fathom not using a hoop. It seems so stupid to me! If I had 3 more hands, maybe, but the hoop does so much work for you!
You're very quick to insult something you don't understand. Many people embroider clothing, for example, and it is not possible to put the sleeve of a blouse or the collar of a shirt in a hoop. I hope you experience more of the world so you can fathom more things.
Why do you not use a thimble?
Never have, just can't get on with them!
I'm waiting to see when Ginger Cat wakes up and decides to leave.....