We also have a Bolt EUV Premier (w/o SC and glass roof, though) and we have a ‘24 Ioniq 5 SEL. Both great cars. We’ve done several road trips in both. Our longest was last year in the Bolt - 5,400 miles from New Port Richey, FL to Arizona to Ohio and home. It handled it well and was comfortable. We just last week got back from a 4,300 mile trip to Arizona. What a difference. Half the charging time compared to the Bolt over the same distances. Way more cargo room. We think the seats in the Hyundai are a little more comfortable than the Bolt, but no complaints about the latter. We actually bought the Ioniq 5 for my wife, but after driving it for about a week, she said she prefers to drive the Bolt. She likes the smaller size and she didn’t want to go through the learning curve with all the new features. She’s a quilter, so she’s always going to her meetings with a sewing machine and a bunch of cloth and other gear in the back. It all fits. But the extra cargo space in the Ioniq 5 also makes it a much better road tripper. IMHO, two excellent cars, each with a different focus, but still more than adequate for just about anything short of hauling loose gravel. PS, nice to see you in the Out of Spec review of the Apex Rechargery.
That’s a great trip in the Bolt EUV - and I think the IONIQ 5 is much better for road trips. There are several charging stations along our favorite routes where the IONIQ 5 charges 4 to 4.5 times as fast (200-245 kW) as the Bolt. So, talk about saving time...it is a game changer. On our short trip to St. Augustine back in Oct/Nov, I learned the hard way that you cannot plug the IONIQ in and do a lot of shopping. Even on a 150 kW charger, I had to run back to the car before we were done to move it off the charger to prevent "idle fees!" It was done in 18 minutes. That was a pleasant surprise for both of us. If you are ever in the Orlando area, PM me on Facebook or X. Happy New Year!
@@jimsEVadventures On the route we take to Ohio, we'd typically stop in the EUV 10 times and charge for about 5-1/2 hours. In the Ioniq 5, same route, five stops and two hours charging. Amazing. Can't get back from the bathroom fast enough. LOL! A meetup would be nice. We try to avoid Orlando as much as we can, but if we do another trip to Kennedy Space Center one of these days or I need to take someone to the Orlando airport, maybe we could do something like that.
I owned a 23 Bolt for over a year and currently lease a 24 Ioniq 6. I have greatly enjoyed both vehicles and I completely agree that a choice between them all comes down to how you want to use the vehicle. The Bolt is outstanding in the role of local city car for errands and short trips. But, the slow DC fast charging makes it pretty painful for long distance road trips. By contrast, the Ioniq 6 DC charging is stunningly fast, and overall the car is a joy to take on long road trips.
Only if you purchase. There have been insane lease deals on Hyundai and Kia. I have a friend leasing an Ioniq 6 for less than $300/mo for 36 months/10k mi/yr.
I opted for the Ioniq 5. It’s my daily commuter around Atlanta and has performed flawlessly on longer road trips. I will say traveling for the fall/winter holidays I found battery preconditioning necessary. Also, free EA charging has been great.
Another enjoyable and informative presentation: thanks for taking the time and energy to produce them, Jim! Watching you use the voice feature on the Bolt reminded me that I have not yet managed to get the thing to work. Does this voice feature require a subscription? All the best, Pat Quinn
The navigation system requires a subscription (and thus the voice commands)...but on my particular model, it was included for three years. SO...in the future, I will have to shell out to keep it...and SuperCruise, too!
@@jimsEVadventures Thanks for that info, Jim! You know, I tried yelling at the steering wheel, even threw in a couple of profanities: nothing! Must be included with the On Star subscription?
We only wanted a EV as a town car, we have another vehicle for family road trips. The trunk of the EUV (in fact we have the EV) is plenty large enough for the week's shopping, we don't need it to fit multiple suitcases. The price of the Bolt was just too attractive.
We have 2 ‘23 EUV’s now. I looked at the Ioniq 5 because it was larger, and at the time similarly priced before GM dropped the price. The Bolt won because of something you didn’t mention- ventilated seats. DCFC was not a concern because I don’t take long trips often. I did end up going 200 miles to my parent’s house frequently, but, being an electrician, I was able to make a temporary charging rig setup on their panel. The other thing that drew me to both vehicles was the physical buttons. Yes, voice commands are nice, but I don’t like interrupting my music to make simple corrections. I never liked Tesla’s one screen for everything approach, or Ford’s rotated copy. As far as manufacturer reputation, I’m not a fan of GM or Hyundai, both lack a great deal and should use the EV reset to fix their issues. I’m crossing my fingers for the Ultium redesign even though I know it’s a big ask for GM to do the right thing out of the gate. I’d also like to see Mazda take EVs seriously.
I am looking forward to the next gen Bolt, too. But I am starting to hear the next version will NOT employ Ultium as previously panned. As soon as I can get verification of that, I will do a new video.
I really like GM's SuperCruise for hands-free driving on mapped highways. However, my Ioniq 5's ADA is more than enough for me with its adaptive cruise control and lane keep assist, plus it's a standard feature in the car that doesn't require a subscription to keep it activated. I have NO "buyer's regret" with it! It's a great, roomy, comfortable car, much better than my previous EV.
I don't have any buyer's regrets for either...but I have been recently disappointed by GM's parts distribution and dealership networks. Disappointing is a very "kind and gentle" word...my New Year's resolution--kinder and gentler!
I can put the boxes in an a variety of ways. To get them to fit in the Bolt, they would only go in one way. 27+ cubic feet on the Ioniq versus barely 16 cubic feet on the Bolt...the fact is, the Ioniq is just bigger. Boxes aside. Maybe next video, I will just jump up into the cargo area myself? Or get Bubba to do it for me! LOL
We have a 2023 Bolt EUV, and love it. When you factor in the price, the Bolt can't be beat, considering everything you get for that price. It's a little small for a primary family car, but fantastic as a second car.
We have both. It feels Like I’m going to hit my head getting into the front passenger seat of the Ioniq 5. The 5 is like a space ship Relative to the Bolt but cost almost $20k more with AWD.
After owning a Bolt EUV and recently getting a '25 Equinox EV, I bet the new Bolt will be a great car. The charging speed of the Equinox EV is a significant improvement and so is the Google Automotive based infotainment system. No doubt the new Bolt will have similar characteristics.
I am not a fan of the Android environment. But that isn't the issue. GM should leave Android Auto and Apple CarPlay on the dash for the customer to choose. Tesla just added BOTH to their environment. It only took them a decade to listen to their customer base...LOL
Thanks for the comparison Jim. I've test drove a few Bolt EUV's trying to make a decision, but two of them felt like they had "loose" steering, like the steering sensors were bad or something. Have you ever had any steering/alignment issues with your Bolt EUV?
We drive up north couple of times a year but may be more frequent in next few years. Do you recommend the AWD IONIQ 5? Is there any reason to get a 2025 when I found a 2024 SE AWD couple of days ago?
I will never own an AWD car...why? Because I learned out to drive on RWD and FWD and can handle either in any road condition, including snow. I hate snow, but can drive on it better than most people who live in it can because the technique (once you learn it) never changes. Problem is, most people never learn it! I have heated seats and steering. NO rear wiper until you move to the 2025 models. The ONLY reason to move to a 2025 model, in my opinion, is the NACS (J3400) charging port.
Jim, any concerns with the 12 volt battery on your IONIQ 5? I am reading about the issue on NATSA website. We looking to possibly get one. I punched in the VIN and no recalls.
I think that it is a design issue that they have overcome in some of the later builds. BUT, there are going to be hits and misses on that. ALSO, they are doing everything possible to get the firmware (software) controlling the module to handle the 12V battery management better. So far, so good.
Jim, does your IONIQ 5 have heated steering wheel and rear wiper? Heard 25 will add these features. Also, do you prefer RWD or AWD version? Found a 2024 AWD SE here and wondering how much pricer the 2025 would be.
Nope...I knew the IONIQ was going to be far superior. 4-5 times as fast in most cases. I will do a video on the reason the Bolt is so slow in a future video. The answer is quite surprising and disturbing.
I haven't watched the video yet but give me the Ioniq if all other things are equal. The big advantage of the Bolt is that low mileage used examples are dirt cheap. It doesn't win on anything else.
@@jimsEVadventuresok watched the video, you didn't mention the charging, that's a particular advantage for the Hyundai with the 800v architecture. It's best of class for this price range.
Getting a 2025 Ioniq 5 in a few weeks, and wireless Apple CarPlay was a huge factor for me - along with the better 2025 range - really sad that GM is abandoning Apple/Android users to whatever crappy proprietary OS they settle on (Tesla has a better system so a better excuse, but I like quality control so Tesla isn't an option)
We also have a Bolt EUV Premier (w/o SC and glass roof, though) and we have a ‘24 Ioniq 5 SEL. Both great cars. We’ve done several road trips in both. Our longest was last year in the Bolt - 5,400 miles from New Port Richey, FL to Arizona to Ohio and home. It handled it well and was comfortable. We just last week got back from a 4,300 mile trip to Arizona. What a difference. Half the charging time compared to the Bolt over the same distances. Way more cargo room. We think the seats in the Hyundai are a little more comfortable than the Bolt, but no complaints about the latter.
We actually bought the Ioniq 5 for my wife, but after driving it for about a week, she said she prefers to drive the Bolt. She likes the smaller size and she didn’t want to go through the learning curve with all the new features. She’s a quilter, so she’s always going to her meetings with a sewing machine and a bunch of cloth and other gear in the back. It all fits. But the extra cargo space in the Ioniq 5 also makes it a much better road tripper.
IMHO, two excellent cars, each with a different focus, but still more than adequate for just about anything short of hauling loose gravel.
PS, nice to see you in the Out of Spec review of the Apex Rechargery.
That’s a great trip in the Bolt EUV - and I think the IONIQ 5 is much better for road trips. There are several charging stations along our favorite routes where the IONIQ 5 charges 4 to 4.5 times as fast (200-245 kW) as the Bolt. So, talk about saving time...it is a game changer. On our short trip to St. Augustine back in Oct/Nov, I learned the hard way that you cannot plug the IONIQ in and do a lot of shopping. Even on a 150 kW charger, I had to run back to the car before we were done to move it off the charger to prevent "idle fees!" It was done in 18 minutes. That was a pleasant surprise for both of us. If you are ever in the Orlando area, PM me on Facebook or X. Happy New Year!
@@jimsEVadventures On the route we take to Ohio, we'd typically stop in the EUV 10 times and charge for about 5-1/2 hours. In the Ioniq 5, same route, five stops and two hours charging. Amazing. Can't get back from the bathroom fast enough. LOL!
A meetup would be nice. We try to avoid Orlando as much as we can, but if we do another trip to Kennedy Space Center one of these days or I need to take someone to the Orlando airport, maybe we could do something like that.
I owned a 23 Bolt for over a year and currently lease a 24 Ioniq 6. I have greatly enjoyed both vehicles and I completely agree that a choice between them all comes down to how you want to use the vehicle. The Bolt is outstanding in the role of local city car for errands and short trips. But, the slow DC fast charging makes it pretty painful for long distance road trips. By contrast, the Ioniq 6 DC charging is stunningly fast, and overall the car is a joy to take on long road trips.
Those two statements are 1000 percent correct and I agree!
How long to charge 30-100 in your Ioniq 6? NACS or CCS?
May I ask the cost to lease the Ionic 6?
I really enjoy your videos, their not 60 minutes plus long and are informative. Thank you for taking the time to put them out.
10-15 minutes seems to be the sweet spot.
The price difference is huge , that alone is why i prefer the bolt
The price difference between the two I have shown was less than $6,000. Not huge…but substantial.
Ditto, used Ioniq 5s in my area are $5-$12K more than a similar mileage Bolt. The Bolt works well for what we need it for.
I was really surprised you didn't talk about price at all @@jimsEVadventures
Only if you purchase. There have been insane lease deals on Hyundai and Kia. I have a friend leasing an Ioniq 6 for less than $300/mo for 36 months/10k mi/yr.
I opted for the Ioniq 5. It’s my daily commuter around Atlanta and has performed flawlessly on longer road trips.
I will say traveling for the fall/winter holidays I found battery preconditioning necessary. Also, free EA charging has been great.
If/when we head to Atlanta in Feb, I am sure we will need to put preconditioning on. But it rarely drops below 50 here.
Reading about 12 volt battery and recall. One we looking at not listed on NHTSA website. Yours?
Another enjoyable and informative presentation: thanks for taking the time and energy to produce them, Jim!
Watching you use the voice feature on the Bolt reminded me that I have not yet managed to get the thing to work. Does this voice feature require a subscription?
All the best,
Pat Quinn
The navigation system requires a subscription (and thus the voice commands)...but on my particular model, it was included for three years. SO...in the future, I will have to shell out to keep it...and SuperCruise, too!
@@jimsEVadventures Thanks for that info, Jim! You know, I tried yelling at the steering wheel, even threw in a couple of profanities: nothing! Must be included with the On Star subscription?
We only wanted a EV as a town car, we have another vehicle for family road trips. The trunk of the EUV (in fact we have the EV) is plenty large enough for the week's shopping, we don't need it to fit multiple suitcases. The price of the Bolt was just too attractive.
Cargo area in the Bolt EV is actually larger than the Bolt EUV...but just a few inches.
Bought cars are great at what they do one thing they do have a good service network. Great job Jim
Thanks! That's the main reason I stick with them!
I already own a 2023 Bolt EUV. It is the size I want and the price is alright.
The EUV is a wonderful car...
We have 2 ‘23 EUV’s now. I looked at the Ioniq 5 because it was larger, and at the time similarly priced before GM dropped the price. The Bolt won because of something you didn’t mention- ventilated seats. DCFC was not a concern because I don’t take long trips often. I did end up going 200 miles to my parent’s house frequently, but, being an electrician, I was able to make a temporary charging rig setup on their panel. The other thing that drew me to both vehicles was the physical buttons. Yes, voice commands are nice, but I don’t like interrupting my music to make simple corrections. I never liked Tesla’s one screen for everything approach, or Ford’s rotated copy. As far as manufacturer reputation, I’m not a fan of GM or Hyundai, both lack a great deal and should use the EV reset to fix their issues. I’m crossing my fingers for the Ultium redesign even though I know it’s a big ask for GM to do the right thing out of the gate. I’d also like to see Mazda take EVs seriously.
I am looking forward to the next gen Bolt, too. But I am starting to hear the next version will NOT employ Ultium as previously panned. As soon as I can get verification of that, I will do a new video.
I really like GM's SuperCruise for hands-free driving on mapped highways. However, my Ioniq 5's ADA is more than enough for me with its adaptive cruise control and lane keep assist, plus it's a standard feature in the car that doesn't require a subscription to keep it activated. I have NO "buyer's regret" with it! It's a great, roomy, comfortable car, much better than my previous EV.
I don't have any buyer's regrets for either...but I have been recently disappointed by GM's parts distribution and dealership networks. Disappointing is a very "kind and gentle" word...my New Year's resolution--kinder and gentler!
Same boxes but why did you change the big box orientation? Accident or on purpose ?
I can put the boxes in an a variety of ways. To get them to fit in the Bolt, they would only go in one way. 27+ cubic feet on the Ioniq versus barely 16 cubic feet on the Bolt...the fact is, the Ioniq is just bigger. Boxes aside. Maybe next video, I will just jump up into the cargo area myself? Or get Bubba to do it for me! LOL
We have a 2023 Bolt EUV, and love it. When you factor in the price, the Bolt can't be beat, considering everything you get for that price. It's a little small for a primary family car, but fantastic as a second car.
It is a great vehicle to get you from Point A to Point B on a daily basis.
We have both. It feels
Like I’m going to hit my head getting into the front passenger seat of the Ioniq 5. The 5 is like a space ship
Relative to the Bolt but cost almost $20k more with AWD.
The delta between the two I have was only $6K. RWD and SEL trim is much cheaper than the AWD top spec.
After owning a Bolt EUV and recently getting a '25 Equinox EV, I bet the new Bolt will be a great car. The charging speed of the Equinox EV is a significant improvement and so is the Google Automotive based infotainment system. No doubt the new Bolt will have similar characteristics.
I am not a fan of the Android environment. But that isn't the issue. GM should leave Android Auto and Apple CarPlay on the dash for the customer to choose. Tesla just added BOTH to their environment. It only took them a decade to listen to their customer base...LOL
Thanks for the comparison Jim. I've test drove a few Bolt EUV's trying to make a decision, but two of them felt like they had "loose" steering, like the steering sensors were bad or something. Have you ever had any steering/alignment issues with your Bolt EUV?
No problems with steering at all. Sounds like the ones you have driven have been pushed hard OR they have some really bad tires?
I think the Ioniq 5 wins because of the dc fast charging advantage over charging much quicker than bolt.
That is the winning appeal. Can't wait to see what they do with the charging speeds on the new Bolt later next year.
Looking at a 2023 EUV with 40k on the odometer. Is this too high mileage?
Nope...just make sure the battery is in good shape. You can probably get a report on the health of the battery for free from Recurrent Auto.
@jimsEVadventures there have been reports online abput lack of Bolt parts for repair, like steering columns. Have you any lnowledge of this?
We drive up north couple of times a year but may be more frequent in next few years. Do you recommend the AWD IONIQ 5? Is there any reason to get a 2025 when I found a 2024 SE AWD couple of days ago?
I will never own an AWD car...why? Because I learned out to drive on RWD and FWD and can handle either in any road condition, including snow. I hate snow, but can drive on it better than most people who live in it can because the technique (once you learn it) never changes. Problem is, most people never learn it! I have heated seats and steering. NO rear wiper until you move to the 2025 models. The ONLY reason to move to a 2025 model, in my opinion, is the NACS (J3400) charging port.
@ have owned many Subaru’s and driven in tons of snow as photographer. Loved them.
@@jimsEVadventures Can I use the Tesla adapter with the 2024 model on superchargers?
Jim, any concerns with the 12 volt battery on your IONIQ 5? I am reading about the issue on NATSA website. We looking to possibly get one. I punched in the VIN and no recalls.
I think that it is a design issue that they have overcome in some of the later builds. BUT, there are going to be hits and misses on that. ALSO, they are doing everything possible to get the firmware (software) controlling the module to handle the 12V battery management better. So far, so good.
Jim, does your IONIQ 5 have heated steering wheel and rear wiper? Heard 25 will add these features. Also, do you prefer RWD or AWD version? Found a 2024 AWD SE here and wondering how much pricer the 2025 would be.
See previous answer ... but should not be much difference in price.
Do you expect the charging rate on the 2025 Bolt being the same as the 2025 IONIQ 5?
Nope...I knew the IONIQ was going to be far superior. 4-5 times as fast in most cases. I will do a video on the reason the Bolt is so slow in a future video. The answer is quite surprising and disturbing.
@ Thanks for your feedback. Love your videos. Very informative.
I haven't watched the video yet but give me the Ioniq if all other things are equal. The big advantage of the Bolt is that low mileage used examples are dirt cheap. It doesn't win on anything else.
Thanks for the feedback.
@@jimsEVadventuresok watched the video, you didn't mention the charging, that's a particular advantage for the Hyundai with the 800v architecture. It's best of class for this price range.
For daily use around town and commutes, you can beat the EUV. Currently the tax credits make it a clear winner.
For a commuter, you are right, it is hard to beat!
Getting a 2025 Ioniq 5 in a few weeks, and wireless Apple CarPlay was a huge factor for me - along with the better 2025 range - really sad that GM is abandoning Apple/Android users to whatever crappy proprietary OS they settle on (Tesla has a better system so a better excuse, but I like quality control so Tesla isn't an option)
Understood...