Michi Taxes | The VTuber Agency with 27 Debuting Talent | Virtual Rhapsody Failure? | Idol ES Launch
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
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There's a grief that can't be spoken
There's a pain goes on and on
Empty chairs at empty concerts
Now NijiEN is dead and gone
Here they talked of evolution
3D planned upon the stage
And they sang about tomorrow
But tomorrow was pure rage
Noobody was ready to see Meica on IdolES, she actually has a fairly amount of followers, but the rumors says that she is not the only ex-Wactor talent, and some even go further to say that Idol just came with a group of very well know ES vtubers. Let see how this unfolds, because the ES fandom is kind of... extrem to say the least, so if someting happens to the girls, Idol is gonna regret it.
It is sus suspected that Koa is Luna Rurine/Nisha Nixveya.
Ruby is suspected to be Lily Endou (Sedai One)
Lala is suspected to be Emberlith (Kudalive)
NOBODY knows who Taiga is.
I don't anything about the es but hearing this have me a little worried but if they're established talents, we can only let them cook and hope idol doesn't burn the kitchen.
Theres nothing wrong with a group of well known vtubers, theres was an audition. Calling ES comunnity extreme is too much imo, the others comunnities had their situation too, lets not ignore that as if ES comunnity would be the worse.
1:24:40 it's worse then you think Khyo went over they're website and saw that they're encouraging the cannibalism and wanting the talent to fight each other for views and company help
The Michi story has to be Niji if her medical insurance is still not sorted yet.
Recently here in Indonesia,the custom bureau demands payment of 300 millions Rupiah for some tool for assisting blind students to study. The custom probably can't really asserrt the value because the tools is a prototype that just recently developed in Korea. The prototype then given as charity to Indonesia but the custom claims the tools wasn't given charity in the description. The case gone viral ,forcing the Ministry of Finances to make the custom to release the tools for free fortunately.
The probability of nijisanji on michi story is high, because she said she earned money not fix (streaming), while before she have fix amount every month (office work)
Yeah, and individual freelance tax in indo is very high. It’s 50% and income tax after the 50% cut. You can establish an LLC to get around this and get 0.5% total, but most indonesians don’t spend the time to research this. Freelancing in Indo is brutal.
600 bucks a month is what I pay for rent and car insurance... and I live with my parents...
thank you for the stream DN
As an accountant, thank you for bringing up the tax thing. I darn wish as well that it gets integrated into the HS curriculum, but the issue with it is that teaching Tax code is like teaching sex ed, either you teach too little, teach too much, or just don't at all because its too broad, takes time and you should let professionals do it.
Now, I'm not an expert or specialist in the area, but.
I need people to understand, tax is complicated as it is because one of the functions of tax is government control. They regulate economies with it, and to make sure they target things correctly and don't miss, they have very specific taxes. Sugar, excise, real property, income, capital gains(loans and stonks), inheritance and estate, etc. And those are the common ones. Thats not to incude prize tax from lottery winnings or competitions.
It gets more complicated with the tax brackets. I think the better solution would be to review the tax code and divide it between basic(income taxes, tax deduction etc), intermediate (withholding tax, business tax etc.) and advanced (import tax, offshore earnings etc.)
But then again even I am no expert on these, but its better to have like a checklist of stuff to pay before you pay them, instead of running around like a headless chicken.
Ok, for anyone wondering:
Meica = Hina Misora (Wactor)
Suspected:
Koa = Luna Rurine(Wactor)/Nisha Nixveya (Indie)
Ruby = Lily Endou (Sedai One)
Lala = Emberlith (Kudalive)
NOBODY knows who is Taiga. Not even a clue comes to mind.
i have heard about wactor but asides that i have no knowledge of the es vtubing sphere
@@akira8393 Well, yes, Wactor IS (still alive under a different name) a black company that abuses its members.
The thing is that the owner of Wactor had a good eye on picking talent (the one thing nobody can deny) so picking Meica and potentially Nisha is basically striking gold.
@@LuccianoBartolini i see. I'm happy they're doing well.
Scammer and thief in lore.
Actually got scammed and got stolen from lmao 😂
The irony
i mean maybe that's how she became a scammer herself
DN look for the clip "Meica esta muy bien armada 🧐" she speaks that her fans troll her calling her been a "guy", bc in a irl photo, she was wearing a short that make a bulge hahaha so don't be sorry on calling her "guy" it's already a meme
56:50 untrue
with the ticket prices, those seats would be even more empty
Hearing DEMONDICE actually brought me back out of the content coma, I'm surprised no one treats her the same as other roommates.
I remember hearing bao's song in the past but never realised it was her till she points out in her shorts that she was the one that made it. WILD!
also what do you mean on no one treats her the same as her roommates?
No, like during the stream when she was mentioned nousagi was like no she just showed up I didn't look for her, which to me says that mentioning her is less okay than mentioning other roommates.
Start 1:32
Iirc Ph high schools removed economics subject in their curriculum in the early 2000s
Though case to case to other schools but the normies private or standard public highschool did remove it.
Dunno after the k to 12 thing though...
Wait, doesn't Indonesian has like government's healthcare? Like an insurance but much cheaper and paid to the government? I think it also help payment for any surgery etc... one of my friend said they paid 2-3usd per month, and any dental or physical problems covered.... That is so cheap
Yes, we have that. But a lot of us also opt (if able) to have other healthcare from insurance companies, primarily as backup if the govt one doesn't cover your expenses and as savings. At least that's my experience.
you can have savings in form of insurance companies investment plan, maybe that's what she went with
I believe in the rising tide floats all boats. If Niji can step their game up, then the other brands could do better. Because the whole scene would look better.
Nexas gave me an idea of something that could happen
Having an actual Agency Battle Royal
Like, with Nenkan Alice having planned her graduation from the beginning
The agency would debut a hell lot of talent and every month or so let go of the less performing members and only keep like the 5 or 10 best in the end
Of course the issue would still be that the less performing members would be kind of flagged as "bad" which isn't good, but if they can keep their IP after they get eliminated, that could still give them some recognition
Having something like that could bring a lot of attention to the company
(I'm not saying it's a good idea, but it's an original one)
I came here straight after I saw a Nexas liver talk shit about u
wait really?
(Me watching the replay) - - - if it's Niji, well... that is like the end of them. >.
For taiwanese fans, at the very least the nijisisters there will attend. I know no male fans will attend. For context, the whole selen drama also reached the taiwanese shores, you can find anycolor in chinese and you'll find taiwanese youtubers talking about it, along with talking shit about anycolor for what they did as well.
I think, it's because most of the ones that joined this "academy" are new vtubers... even if it was hard, they are probably willing to risk it, though that is an assumption on my part, because if they are teaching content creation, I highly doubt "big Vtubers" would have joined in - so it seems it's technically made for "newer" Vtubers to begin with. Either way, I do believe that they all deserve the support (I mean the vtubers), they could be younger too and went through it and signed things up without much thought.
On the other side, the difference they are making is this "massive collection of vtubers" - - this will pull in people, which is why they do require that even as a new vtuber, you are required to have a "following" still, to bring over to their app. Plus, the difference with Reality and Vstream (I tried those before, lol) - - those were actually not user-friendly. No one also plugged them on other platforms unless you are like me who weirdly search about Vtubers on Appstore and stumbles upon them LOLOLOLOLOL!
Plus, this has gotten so much news and publicity. Like they say... bad publicity is still publicity, =P
i dunno usually when those that claim so tend to not end so well down the road.
Yes, sadly I agree. (though I am trying to be hopeful for them I guess hehe)@@akira8393
my first job didn't pay my sss for 3 years my first employer is money grabing bastard
I honestly don't think I can see Nijisanji still being a corporate entity in a decade from now, let alone 5 years. Hell, NijiEN might not even make it to New Years with how things are going.
It sucks to see things are going this way, but at the same time it really isn't. Because at the end of the day, it's their fault for making poor business decisions that only benefit them short-term.
I just hope everyone who wants out gets out and the rest can stay sinking with the yacht
bro, would rather all abandon ship right now tbh
i mean riku himself said he was in it for the short tern. everyone is suddenly surprised he is making decisions focusing on short term gains?
@@CybersteelEx not about suddenly surprised but u can't allow these incidents happening at the first place regardless of short term or long term. That's why people mad at nijisanji. Even it is short term, the contract still got kicked out by the court for sure. The contract itself is completely ridicilous
Depending on what Q4 results are, we can probably expect Niji to need to do some actual serious shit to not gets wiped off Vtubing Industry maps this year even.
At minimum, if there was a hit to Profits on the EN branch again, they may be forced into actual proactive PR and pushing some visible investmwnt into it, even if just to make the cooked (Partially or entirely) books seem more believable. But they will have to shift strategy if the Q4 reports losses cannot be conceales, only minimized.
At worst, if the hit is impossible to even shuffle numbers to make it look better than the disaster it is, everything could happen, and it will rely on how absurdly FUBAR Niji stockbros end going, be Investor Lawsuits to demand a change of leadership and Riku take responsibility for this mess, be just them leaving en mass and thus causing all safeties of Nikkei to trigger and not stop.... Or the mess just becomes so big it brings JP government into the fold to solve the mess, one way or another.
also, as a side note... and maybe because i am a fan of coco kiryu... but am i the only one who sees coco kiryu's outfit on the brown hair girl? (down from the boob area to the rest of the body - as a big chested as her though haha)
Can Phillipine fans pay the price Niji is asking for though
1:32:20 And this is how they become Hololive Rejects , someone show this VTweeter how many hours FWMC streamed in their first month to stablish their fanbase , lol , Haven't made it in yet and already having a "woman moment" as 4chan likes to call it
fwmc are two people working in one channel, yeah of course i would believe you can do double the amount of work. but if I'm just a nobody that is just starting vtubing, I can't do a 5 day stream. unless i have a manager that handles my crap, I can stream 3-4 days and 1 additional day having to prep things for the next like making thumbnails and schedules. 5 days of stream and 1 day of prepping and 1 day of break might sound manageable but eventually I'd crashed hard to the ground. and that's not including if i have also a side job on top.
@@akira8393 Right... because every single stream since debut it was only one or the other creating content right ? 🤡 while the other sister was resting to switch places later on 🤡 is that it? If you don't want to put in the work , you will remain a 2view pre-debut VTweeter
@@warlockwarlord169 what are you talking about? When i say you can double the work, i dont mean one work while the other rest. Where the hell you get that idea? Both of them work at the same time but it can be done more when you're doing with two people.
If i have to do fuwamoco fan post, i have to scroll tens of posts from the ruffians. If i were to done myself, i can only go for about 200 post but if i have a partner, i can get an additional or maybe more. So looking through the fan post would be overall 500 in comparison with 200 if i were to do it myself.
There's also a lot you can do with two working in one. Maybe fuwawa can go looking for games while mococo working on schedules. One of them cooks while the other cleans.
With me all doing it by myself, it's just unreasonable to do like fuwamoco does because some people aren't luxury to just do streaming everyday. Even If I had given my all the amount would not be near like them or similar early on till i gradually get fewer over time.
Look, i get that the vtweeters and all but for those guys we know they never even put in any amount of work. Their amount is not even close in comparison to an average vtuber because they're busy tweeting all day.
they cut 50% off from the revenue you make, and take 10% of the 50% that you make for tax purposes? like wtf man? money distribution dropped to 55-45 aaand they dont pay your countries tax, only their own countries tax? bro at least make some minimum wage payment for tax purposes! well I guess they are too young to think about this stuff