Subaru Head Gaskets -Part 5: Head Install & Torque

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  • @charlesmiller5078
    @charlesmiller5078 6 років тому +6

    Watching you torque down the bolts. When we were kids we rebuilt 289s, we didnt know what a torque wrench was !
    We kept nothing in order, pistons just a piston, heck it can go into any hole, same with valves, replace head bolts fat chance on that one, didnt know you needed to. How they ever ran is beyond me. But we were able to run Low 12s in the quarter mile. Maybe Luck is on the side of the Ignorant. In our garage we heard alot of "are they all tight" tight as I can get em, great. Amazing what we got away with, and I cant remember one real failure. But maybe my brain has filed those into that cabinet way in the back, that rusty dark looking one that starts shaking when bring it up, its shaking now !
    Think its so cool Vladimir watches your channel...Hes proud of you, but we all are, so get in line Vladimir, Hes ours now.

    • @CubasAutomotive
      @CubasAutomotive 6 років тому

      Charles Miller I agree with the just throwing pistons wherever... using whatever crank bearings. .. clearances? What's that? 😂😂 Yrah, it is amazing things ran back then, stayed together, and I had none blow up. Miss the good old days! !

    • @charlesmiller5078
      @charlesmiller5078 6 років тому +2

      Assembly Lube...Whats that
      We used to run high power A/C wire right into the Mains. Who needs a fricking breaker!!
      Put a disconnect switch on the A/C and your good to go.
      I once visited the NASA, display in Houston, Tx, they had a stage of the Saturn 5 Rocket, and you could see inside. I looked like some of the plumping out of a 1950s house, nothing like what I expected, really low tech.
      Yes, your right good times were had by all, even NASA.
      When I watched John Glenn go into space , it looked like on TV he was on a huge rocket, I stood next to the same type he used, A Red Stone Rocket. It was basically the same height as a Telephone Pole and twice a thick, it was so tiny to what my mind actually saw on that TV in 3rd grade class.
      There was a time when if the part was sold for that car, it worked, you didnt check clearances, hell I didnt know what a "clearance was". When we finished around 2/3 in the morning we would run it uncapped, neighbors loved us.
      Life was just so much more fun. Pregnant Wives would set around playing cards, smoking, and drinking beer.
      If your mom worked you lived in a poor family.No hardhats, safety glasses, or steel toed shoes. You could work on a dangerous job, with a t-shirt, shorts, and flip flops. 3/4 of the crew would smoke dope while they were working. We dont need no stinking drug tests . Gosh we turned into Europe.

    • @reneneron2971
      @reneneron2971 6 років тому

      Cast iron block, steel heads, low compression, non interference, and pushrods. Big differences!

    • @charlesmiller5078
      @charlesmiller5078 6 років тому

      Yes, I agree. These new engines are like watches. With all the problems of a watch. But they do run smooth, unlike some of the engines of the past. Its interesting to see what they are coming out with. I thought that it was totally going electric, but now Im not sure, to get cars off of fuel it could take 30 years or more, guess if Im around I will see what happens.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  6 років тому +2

      Remember the Geo Prizm engine rebuild, Charles? I got a hard time from the UA-cam watchdogs about not honing the cylinder walls and reusing pitted valves.
      Well guess what, 25k miles after the rebuid the Prizm still purrs, and doesn't use a DROP of oil!! 263k on the odometer now. It was just in my shop today...needs a new gas tank but runs great...even the original A/C freaking blows cold air hahaha

  • @wyattoneable
    @wyattoneable 6 років тому

    These have been a well documented series. Anyone who needs to tackle this job will be well informed. On a side note, I'm back from Germany and the Vantage is here. Thanks again for the fix! It will come in handy to try and identify why my 05 suddenly has a two cylinder misfire.

  • @ozzstars_cars
    @ozzstars_cars 6 років тому +1

    Lining up the head gasket while attaching the head, the real life struggle. Nice job ivan

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  6 років тому +1

      Especially when it's freaking hanging vertically...who designed this crap xD

    • @SmittySmithsonite
      @SmittySmithsonite 6 років тому

      I find myself asking that question at a high volume, complete with expletives, on a daily basis ...

  • @curtflory7147
    @curtflory7147 3 роки тому

    Thanks for a great video series. I just had to do that exact process on an 04 Forester and your video really clarified things for me. GREAT JOB! Thank you!. When I put the head bolts back in, since I don't have a torque wrench that measures angles, I made a cardboard cutout with a hole for the socket to go through and lines for 0, 30, 45, and 60 degrees. I got my wife to hold it in place for me at the 0 degree line and then I tightened each bolt to one of the lines and then reset back to zero and finished torquing to the closest degree. I feel like it is a lot more accurate than guessing and it worked well and cost me nothing, except an old piece of cardboard. Thanks again for the entire series; I'll watch more of your stuff just to see what else you're up to, since it was so informational.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the kind words Curt! Glad the video was helpful :)

    • @curtflory7147
      @curtflory7147 3 роки тому

      @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics You are so welcome. I also meant to add that I think your camera shots are really well done too. So many guys who do this sort of thing have video that jumps all over the place or can't be see well. Your video seems to be the cause of good planning for both good views and good lighting. THAT is definitely something that sets you apart. When you're trying to show something to others that they haven't seen it is important to be able to see it well enough to tell what's going on, otherwise it only adds to the confusion. I hope others appreciate it as much as I do. Well Done and keep it up! There's no telling how many people you've already helped.

  • @deantubeful
    @deantubeful 6 років тому

    A pleasure to watch someone else do it. Myself being an engineer we never make mistakes right ? Apart from the first head I bolted down that started with 60 Lb/Ft and then required a 45 degree which I mistook and passed to 90 degree ! I did thing it was a bit tight as I needed a 4ft bar to turn it. That head wasn't going to blow again. Thanks Ivan

  • @Schnippen_Schnappen1
    @Schnippen_Schnappen1 Рік тому

    That head bolt torque sequence is ridiculous

  • @tjburrell3652
    @tjburrell3652 2 роки тому

    I worked for a Subaru dealer, we just did 30ft lbs, 50ft lbs and 70ft lbs on the 4 cylinder engines. and 25ft lbs, 50ft lbs and 60ft lbs on 6 cylinders. no doing degrees bs, too time consuming

  • @baxrok2.
    @baxrok2. 6 років тому

    Nice progress Ivan. Thanks!

  • @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
    @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 6 років тому

    *BEAUTIFUL WORK*

  • @jeffreygoss8109
    @jeffreygoss8109 6 років тому

    Dr O teach this protege the magic of brake clean!

  • @nathanieloliverpeake792
    @nathanieloliverpeake792 2 місяці тому

    I noticed that your torque specs are different from what I found on the Internet including Eric oh from South Main auto on his Subaru head, what I am finding is closer to 21 foot pounds first than 50 and I believe yours are somewhere around 33 and then to 70, are these both each 253 engines or am I missing something?

  • @user-ps5gb2pr1q
    @user-ps5gb2pr1q 5 місяців тому

    Me puedes mandar una foto de tu manual por favor 🙏

  • @wysetech2000
    @wysetech2000 6 років тому

    Nice job, Ivan.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  6 років тому

      Thanks for the motivation! Editing these videos is almost like doing the whole job over again lol

    • @wysetech2000
      @wysetech2000 6 років тому

      Everything is harder when you have two jobs.

  • @gregmccarter5386
    @gregmccarter5386 5 років тому

    Subaru Mike in Arizona uses the old head bolts, with felpro,gaskets, he said Subaru shops do also

  • @CubasAutomotive
    @CubasAutomotive 6 років тому +7

    I literally cringed when I saw you start the head bolts with the air ratchet! 😅😅 I just have the habit of starting every nut, bolt, or threaded object by hand. My luck, I'd tear up or cross the threads if I don't.

  • @Chris-Fennimore
    @Chris-Fennimore 6 років тому +5

    Good video Ivan. Wow, you are braver than me, I would hav shoved some rags in the intake ports just in case I dropped something. Was working space in your shop an issue? I counted 7 more bolts to remove, to have the engine out on a stand to work on. You must have small hands to get in there ! LOL.

    • @SmittySmithsonite
      @SmittySmithsonite 6 років тому

      You know me Chris - every small part I handled would've ended up down inside there ... but only once everything was torqued, and mostly put back together. 😁

    • @Chris-Fennimore
      @Chris-Fennimore 6 років тому +1

      Yeah, Smitty, thats why I pull the H4 out and put it on a stand, before I work on it. I got another H4 I will be videoing here in the near future.

    • @SmittySmithsonite
      @SmittySmithsonite 6 років тому

      Nice - I'll check that one out.
      I'm always in a rush, so if I were to get one of these in here, I'd probably do what Ivan is doing, too ... except cursing the whole way through, LOL.

  • @Anonymous-ew5bq
    @Anonymous-ew5bq 9 місяців тому

    Those aren't tty bolts and they dont stretch that sequence is the preload the gasket fyi you dont need to replace those bolts

  • @tracydiller4492
    @tracydiller4492 6 років тому

    Great video Ivan keep them coming.PEACE.

  • @anyheck
    @anyheck 6 років тому +2

    Those electronic angular measuring torque wrenches likeky use a MEMS micro-machined angular rate sensor like the ADXRS150 and do some integrating dtheta/dt.

  • @brianfarnell9833
    @brianfarnell9833 Рік тому

    What are the two little switches on the passenger side back part of the head? I see through the editing you added on of them and talk briefly about the second one at the end of the video. One of these is leaking oil on my Subaru and I am having a hard time finding out about these two parts.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Рік тому

      You just need to replace the orings on those solenoids. They are for variable valve lift on the intake cam. Look up a parts diagram!

  • @colewhite4766
    @colewhite4766 5 місяців тому

    You say to follow the torque specs but don’t give them all. Left in the dark after the first sequence

  • @apachelives
    @apachelives 6 років тому +2

    I use the genuine Subaru *turbo* head gaskets on NA engines (permanent fix, different design MLS) and reuse the head bolts no problems just skip the stretch/undo stage, also use an old head bolt with cut threads to clean the block threads first.
    For manual owners its better to do the clutch by removing the engine leaving the gear box in and do the head gaskets at the same time, also make sure to reseal the piston/pcv plates and inspect the rear main seal (there usually fine).

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  6 років тому +1

      Great tips! Now the question is why don't they install MLS gaskets on all Subaru engines from the factory??

    • @Chris-Fennimore
      @Chris-Fennimore 6 років тому

      It all comes down to cost.

    • @sleeks9939
      @sleeks9939 2 роки тому

      When skipping the stretch/undo stage what torque do you start at?

    • @apachelives
      @apachelives 2 роки тому

      @@sleeks9939 Get a factory service manual for your specific model or follow head gasket manufacturer specs

    • @sleeks9939
      @sleeks9939 2 роки тому

      @@apachelives I’ve been searching for one but no luck. 2005 Forester NA SOHC EJ25.

  • @malcolmyoung7866
    @malcolmyoung7866 6 років тому

    Nice job, Ivan..

  • @billneu9520
    @billneu9520 6 років тому

    You are the best thanks for the videos

  • @ojjenkins7110
    @ojjenkins7110 6 років тому

    Dobro Utra Ivan. Love your videos :-)

  • @stevestumbaugh8982
    @stevestumbaugh8982 3 роки тому +1

    Subaru should have fixed all of these bad engines with faulty gaskets instead of us paying $2000.

  • @Mg_L.A.
    @Mg_L.A. 5 років тому

    Will do..same torque secuence?
    And thanks for all ur help

  • @richardcranium5839
    @richardcranium5839 6 років тому +4

    i never understood the idea of torque to yeild fasteners. its like trying to idiot proof a grenade

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 6 років тому

      """"come check out or new idiot and explosion proof grenade!""""

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv 6 років тому

    That's a job really well done ivan :-D.
    I imagine that at the time you were releaved that the hardest part went back together loverly.
    I know you are a pro, but getting the job done must still be a tiny bit worrying.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  6 років тому

      You can never take for granted that a job will go as smoothly as planned. But it is nice when some of them do ;)

  • @HollomanUFOLanding
    @HollomanUFOLanding 6 років тому

    Great vid Ivan, thank you. Request - can you please do a tutorial on bleeding air from Subaru brakes. Thanks :)

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  6 років тому +1

      I have a few videos on brake bleeding...same procedure just like any other car.

    • @HollomanUFOLanding
      @HollomanUFOLanding 6 років тому

      OK thanks I'll try and look them up. The main point I'm stuck on is trying to avoid any air being sucked back into into the bleeder piope or through the bleeder nipple during the stage of closing the nipple after tghe other person has pumped the brake pedal.

  • @zoidberg444
    @zoidberg444 6 років тому

    Top job Ivan. I always thought the final torque on EJ25 bolts was nearer 100ft/lbs. Then again i'm not a human torque wrench.

  • @joe2mercs
    @joe2mercs 6 років тому

    Once rebuilt an Alfa Sud engine, a flat four twin over head cam unit not unlike the Scooby Doo Subaru. However I made the mistake of fitting a head gasket upside down. Fortunately I had a cup of tea before I torqued everything and was flicking this bit of exposed gasket and then the penny dropped. A simple error but when you’re focused on torque settings and getting bolts in the right order it is easy to overlook the obvious.

  • @throttlebottle5906
    @throttlebottle5906 6 років тому

    if the drill-bit is the same size as hole, running it backwards works pretty well for corrosion removal.
    also why didn't you put the valve cover with the face side down on plywood and just run the bit into it or up on a few blocks, seemed to be fighting it pretty hard lol

  • @kevinbyrne4538
    @kevinbyrne4538 6 років тому

    I would never have the courage to attempt this.

  • @bborkzilla
    @bborkzilla 6 років тому

    The Fel-Pro bolt sets don't differentiate between the two bolt types. They're all the same.

  • @Allen-bm6tz
    @Allen-bm6tz 3 роки тому

    Is it a problem if the oil drips off the headbolt threads and onto the head gasket, block surface, or head surface as you try to place the head onto the block with the engine in the car?

  • @G3516dude
    @G3516dude 3 роки тому

    Can you use original head bolts on a car with only 157,000 kilometres?

  • @SmittySmithsonite
    @SmittySmithsonite 6 років тому

    That gasket would've fallen out of place on me 6 times in a row! I would've had to edit out the whole part because it would be one long tirade of expletives. 😂 Sometimes I think the forces of the Universe conspire against me ...
    Almost there!! I can almost smell the CO coming out of the tailpipe. 😎

    • @CXensation
      @CXensation 6 років тому

      You cant smell CO. Thats why its so dangerous.

  • @happy543210
    @happy543210 6 років тому

    stretching alternator belt, single use head bolts, ridiculous torquing sequence, head gaskets guaranteed to leak again in another 100k miles......can't wait to go out and buy my very own subaru!!

  • @alleycatvietnam
    @alleycatvietnam 6 років тому

    Ivian why Not use Anti Size rather than oil?

  • @julio3421
    @julio3421 5 років тому

    Where you get the software to do stuff like that

  • @scuba422123
    @scuba422123 6 років тому +1

    i saw a commercial for bars leak....you didn't have to do any of this!!!

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  6 років тому

      I have nightmares about BARS STOP LEAK lol

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 6 років тому

      :))))

    • @camerondonnelly6419
      @camerondonnelly6419 6 років тому

      Magic in a can seldom is...

    • @scuba422123
      @scuba422123 6 років тому

      I ment it as a joke! but it has worked in the past pepper in the block coke in the battery and bananas in the diff or tail pipe! all have worked before

  • @mmichaeldonavon
    @mmichaeldonavon 5 років тому

    Ivan. Correct me if I'm wrong. I've read when you "oil the bolt threads" you can change the torque by 30 or 40%. So, those head bolts are tighter than what the torque wrench is set at? Or, does Subaru want you to lub the bolt threads and then proceed with their torque specs (which would take into consideration the lubed threads?) Just curious. I really enjoy your videos. Many thanks,

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  5 років тому

      Manufacturer spec by Subaru. If they are not oiled, they "stick" when tightening, throwing off the torque reading even more!

  • @danielvaldezaguirre
    @danielvaldezaguirre 6 років тому

    Ivan what is the brand and model of that air rachet?

  • @lightningsmokerXx
    @lightningsmokerXx 6 років тому

    All krowned up as of Yesterday.

  • @jeremyanthony9300
    @jeremyanthony9300 6 років тому

    should have done that job when you replaced the clutch in it. would have been easier.

  • @fredberfal1246
    @fredberfal1246 6 років тому

    what a fun head gasket job .
    thank god i dont own a soobie!

  • @fredberfal1246
    @fredberfal1246 6 років тому

    be careful torking those head bolts you might flip that roller skate over. LOL

  • @robertf4572
    @robertf4572 6 років тому

    In hindsight do you think it would’ve been easier to pull the engine? Also how much did the machine work set you back?
    Thanks

    • @davidgilbert3507
      @davidgilbert3507 3 роки тому

      I always pull the engine. Hell, you're 90% there and it only takes about 10 or less minutes to pull the remaining hardware and hoses to remove the engine but it makes the whole process so much easier. Working in the confined space of the engine compartment just does not appeal to me. I would like to see the same mechanic do it both ways and see if there is much difference in time because I doubt there is any.

  • @atschirner
    @atschirner 6 років тому

    Push rods and valve lash? Did I sleep past that part?

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  6 років тому

      LOL couldn't find any pushrods on this engine...

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 6 років тому +2

      thinking you slept through way more than that lol.....

    • @atschirner
      @atschirner 6 років тому

      Right, timing belt, Duh! Do you set the valve lash on the bench. I haven't watched Part IV yet.

  • @alastairmartin3049
    @alastairmartin3049 6 років тому

    There’s a lot of comments saying good job this is a fucking abortion. You should never need to drill out factory holes and if you’ve done this a few times it’s only 6-8 hours removing the engine

  • @jackshimano1994
    @jackshimano1994 6 років тому +2

    Elabourite torquing procedure indeed!!
    -wonder if new bolts need pre tensioning -or dare you re-use old head bolts?
    I told YA PART 6 on horizon~~ -trust repair outlasts RUST

    • @jomangeee9180
      @jomangeee9180 6 років тому

      old bolts don't need pretension- bolts are already stretched- so you skip that part (according to a subi tech). Although it is recommended to install new bolts ($50 each side) it is not necessarily done in a dealership, billing is a different thing. Ivan what's your experience? BTW great video again as usual.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  6 років тому

      I've reused head bolts before. No big deal really. Just figured in this case might as well keep the audience happy and follow the manufacturers recommendations lol

    • @jackshimano1994
      @jackshimano1994 6 років тому

      I have NEVER bought NEW engine bolts-except when heads totally rounded off or threads super rusted
      -even down to oversized bearing caps on crankshaft
      -but possibly got away with stunts since both short block
      AND head were cast iron
      =recall doing MANY VEGA and 2.6 L Mitsubishi mills in Chryco minivans ENGINE swaps due to meltdown due to lousy design though

  • @AP9311
    @AP9311 6 років тому

    Part of the video was bit cringeworthy cuz I was afraid to see the head bolt was gonna snap or something. Sorry Ivan, I was thinking negative. But great job reassembling the engine up!

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  6 років тому

      Threading into Aluminum is always a bit cringeworthy!!

    • @AP9311
      @AP9311 6 років тому

      Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics yep. Sure is lol. I snapped a bolt on Cummins engine. Using ARP studs. Expensive mistake. That's why I cringe at torquing the head bolts lol.

  • @Mg_L.A.
    @Mg_L.A. 5 років тому

    hey are the subaru oem head gaskets any good or shoud I go with any aftermarket part....mine has an ej29 JDM engine

  • @jeremyanthony9300
    @jeremyanthony9300 6 років тому

    your'e # 1.

  • @jackwood8307
    @jackwood8307 6 років тому +1

    Makes you wonder how many shops actually take the time to do this. Wish i could find someone like Ivan close to me!

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  6 років тому +1

      I've seen botched head gasket jobs before. One ended up with overheating and a cracked cylinder block!

  • @molsterone3797
    @molsterone3797 6 років тому

    what is the parts bill

  • @chadharmon5716
    @chadharmon5716 6 років тому +2

    Not many engines you can palm a head in one hand lol

  • @ericcorse
    @ericcorse 6 років тому

    What a great way to start the morning of my 66 th birthday SMA and PHAD All this rigmarole and the stupid head gaskets still don't last.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  6 років тому +1

      Happy Birthday, Eric! That's a cool number! :)

    • @ericcorse
      @ericcorse 6 років тому

      Ivan any birthday of this vintage is cool if you are above the dirt.

  • @jeremyanthony9300
    @jeremyanthony9300 6 років тому

    wouldn't be easier to do that job with the motor out?

    • @alastairmartin3049
      @alastairmartin3049 6 років тому

      Yes

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  6 років тому

      If you have the means to pull the engine out, and an engine stand to hold it while you tear it apart. The in-car method only requires basic hand tools and no heavy lifting ;)

  • @closertothetruth9209
    @closertothetruth9209 6 років тому

    At least those heads weigh nothing, I'd be afraid something would drop in the intake ports

  • @smms1276
    @smms1276 6 років тому

    Sweeeeet MAN, YOU could have edited out all your screw ups.. That stupid gasket, stuburn, little flea. Gina bite you any chance it gets... Lol... But cha don't. And that my friend make s you da man. Thanks for keeping it real

  • @bodgitandleggitgarage
    @bodgitandleggitgarage 6 років тому +1

    1st boom

  • @edgarsalinas6408
    @edgarsalinas6408 6 років тому

    wear some goggles!!!!! now I see why you scratch ur eyes all the time .

  • @bodgitandleggitgarage
    @bodgitandleggitgarage 6 років тому +6

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  • @robertweir9034
    @robertweir9034 6 років тому

    First