Whoops. Yeah, the 5th one, sorry. And I saw on Sonic Retro's wiki that this crash is very rare. That seems to be the case on emulators but on hardware, it's 100% chance of a crash ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@PaintoOfficial Was trying to joke about how that error can be left in and one can just go, "Get better at the game - It's actually a trap". I think some older games actually tried to brush off random crashes as part of the villain's "evil plot"
When rhs was saying that he needs a wondermega there was few sentences for single frame here is what it said: That makes me sound really unappreciative there, dosen't it? Please don't take this the wrong way! I am extremly grateful for the donation. What my joke was referring to was the fact that my console collection to test Sonic games is not actually complete because of the absence of the WonderMega. Plus, there are a few others missing. I just wanted to make this clear. And if you're reading this, have a good day! :)
If I remember right, Metal Sonic Rebooted can't work on real hardware because it uses music the actual Genesis hardware can't handle, at least that's what happened when I tried it on an Everdrive.
I figured sonic 3 complete would work perfectly. There really wasn't any alterations to the game like sprites or levels. All it is is just a perfectly bundled game with options the original sonic games don't offer you. Actually it should be made into legitimate game rather than a rom hack.
@@traviseller8160 I think that "they couldnt fit the game in one cartridge cus it was too big" thing was a myth the real reason was a fucking McDonalds promotion lol they had to release the game on time for the promotion but they couldnt finish it so they just released one part of it and released the other part a few months later.
2:31 Pick by game means if you play S&K or S3K, it plays the S&K themes. Pick by zone means when you’re in the Sonic 3 zones, it plays Sonic 3 themes. In the S&K zones, it plays S&K themes. Pick by character though, my guess is that it plays S&K themes when you play as Knuckles, and it plays Sonic 3 themes as the other characters.
This is probably my favorite little series of videos I've discovered, such a unique and fun concept to check to see if all of these romhacks actually stay faithful what the systems were capable of!
only works in Sonic 1 Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 (standalone) jump to an endless loop of nothing (i.e. a freeze) on every exception, while Sonic & Knuckles (and as a result Sonic 3 & Knuckles) jumps to the same thing, just without the branch, which makes it reset the game instead
So happy I watched this video and thank you so very very much for including the downloads to the roms you tested. It feels like my old genesis has come back to life thank to you and the creators of the rom hacks. Deffinately feels alot beter playing on original hardware instead of on a emulated device.
We learn from our mistakes, and adapt our knowledge by digging deeper into rom hacks and testing methodologies. The Sonic 3 remakes are fantastic. 4:39 and the ending were hilarious 😂
The reason metal sonic rebooted has issues is because of the 32x songs that were converted and used. Many hack games out there that use 32x songs with the same conversion method as have this issue once you go to legit software.
I always assumed it was a bug brought on by an outdated variant of the sound driver (Clownacy's Sonic 2 Cloned V2 driver in 68k) as the early builds of gamma V's ''Sonic Legacy'' used the same outdated driver that had the same bug where it kept crashing sporadically in game. KCEXE (Lone Devil's music porter) done a poor job on this one, and innocently reporting feedback to Lone Devil on addressing bugs in his hacks is like a free punch in the face, the guy just insults you and tells you that he doesn't care. Thank you so much redhotsonic for testing ''Metal Sonic Rebooted'' it shows that these issues were not just down to me which is what Lone Devil believed.
dropped a like before even watching. that shows how i know the videos gonna be good EDIT: Have watched it and can safely say this video works on real hardware. tested it through many operating systems like windows 10, and no errors have occured. except from the ones that redhotsonic experienced in the 4 rom hacks...
@@dianaloayzat4975 OH NO there has been the rare occurance of a comment not loading. i revoke my rating to a partially, as the comments seem to have errors, though the video itself is fine.
This question is so easy to answer. If its a fan game/fan remake its not compatible with real hardware or emulated hardware but if its a "rom" hack or the same game but with "patches" applied its most definitely compatible with real fake or emulated hardware
I admit as much as I live this "Does it work on real hardware?" Series, seeing these flash back to the old rom hack reviews, it makes me miss them, hopefully you'll review another Sonic game soon, like maybe Sonic 3 A.I.R. or another rom hack, like Sonic Mega Mix, I hope you do more like those, I'd love see more reviews from you RedhotSonic
I've been debating it however my reviews except for one or two wasn't doing really well so I slowed them down. I'll probably do the odd one here and there (like I did with girl's Garden and Sonic GBA) but BDIWORH will have priority :)
1:52 The Wondermegas/X'Eyes are pretty expensive, the american models coming in at 260-1155 USD, or 200-885 pound sterling. An eBay seller wanted 599.98 USD or 459.98 pound sterling. An X'Eye complete in its box would be only a few bucks over, so why I am saying the American version more is because I'm from that region.
I dunno if I ever said this before, but I feel Sonic 3 Complete could go with one final update, or at least a patch of sorts for the current build; Mainly, a larger and accurate Release/Prototype palette swap selection (for such zones as Hydrocity, Launch Base, Mushroom Valley, Flying Battery, Lava Reef, Doomsday, and I guess also the Slot Machine bonus stage?), the authentic proto tracks over ValleyBell's remixes, the ability to Drop Dash with both the Nov 3 and Mania methods, and an optional separate patch for Sonic's proto sprites (because the official online customization options did include sprite sets from Sonic 1/CD and 2… no Nick Arcade set though).
5:10 I’ve encountered some crashes with the Super forms myself. Like when beating the Scrap Brain level, the game constantly crashes as it’s trying to turn the character’s color palette back to Sonic’s. The only way I managed to slightly prevent it as Silver, was by activating his psychokineses and keep it on until I pass the sign. Even then, it only works if I manually turn it on, so I can’t just hover. Also, I should mention that you save your Chaos Emeralds until you reset the game or pick a new character. So you technically can just go and play the second level after gaining the seventh emerald and dying or beating the game.
I had a good feeling that S3 Complete would work. Now even though the Genesis Mini is emulation I put S3 Complete in there since there was no S3&K due to the obvious reasons. Now with you (redhotsonic) testing the other 3 games maybe you should share this video with the creators of those rom hacks/homebrews so maybe they can go and fix these errors and you then can try again to get them to work on the actual hardware.
It's a real shame Sonic 3 Complete was abandoned because I would love to see at least, one more update that includes the November 1993 Prototype soundtracks for their respective Zones.
@@SonicGamer-zw3wf I was talking about the Prototype versions of the track. More specificallys the arrangements that were composed originally by the dev team in SEGA, not the ones that ValleyBell got from the PC Collection and just made a MIDI conversation into a YM2612 VGM format.
@@megamix5403 Honestly, I wanted to have the original prototype tracks in Sonic 3 Complete as well. The PC collection versions aren't as good as the originals. If only it was an option in the S3C customiser. Especially the Special/Super Sonic theme.
@@SonicGamer-zw3wf Yes, that's exactly what I mean, like I know what you're trying to say in the first. Technically speaking, the songs from the PC version/Beta are already there but I was talking about the arrangements, because they are more official sounding and fit better overall with the style of S3&K and it makes sense given, that it's from a beta build with SEGA themselves.
@@megamix5403 The only way now to put the original tracks in the game is to wait for a possible update or take the matter into our own hands and, with some ROM hacking tools, put them in ourselves. Since I'm trying to get into the Sonic hacking community, I might do it. Either way it's possible.
Awesome video yet again Redhotsonic! Congratulations on now owning a PAL Mega Drive/Mega-CD model 2/SEGA Genesis/SEGA-CD model 2/Japanese Mega Drive/Mega-CD model 2 and Genesis model 1 console. Let it be known to all us blokes out there, our wives always end up having the final say. Never upset the misses. 1. Sonic 3 Complete = perfect no hiccups or weird surprises. 2. The S Factor is just a prick of a game with awful level designs and many dick moves. I randomly got a crash once in one of the special stages and once at the score tally of Spectra Valley Act 1. The crashes in this one seem to be at random points. 3. I spoke to Lone Devil about Metal Sonic Rebooted and how it resets itself back to the sega logo screen from the title screen each and every time in PAL, I even made a video about it and I mentioned it in Redhotsonic's Metal Sonic Rebooted review, Funny thing is that this happens on emulators too and if you boot the ROM on the USA setting and then switch it to Europe the music is slow but it doesn't reset itself at the title screen, anyway after speaking to Darkon360/Lone Devil his response was this. ''Does it really crash while getting a 1up (that's just a sfx) and Chaos Emerald? I always think it's either a Sonic 2 thing or has to do with Clownacy's updated clone driver because there were no issues presented in Hyperdrive. I still don't have an Everdrive yet and the only emu besides Regen I can count on for crashes is BlastEm, I RARELY crash at the end of act 2 and there's nothing I can do that could solve it, maybe it's the S3K error handler itself after all. there's a reason I made the music fadeout for act 1s. Also I couldn't figure why the title screen crashes and wouldn't bother because why on earth would any reasonable being play at 50hz?'' Well if that's going to be his attitude towards his own game then Lone Devil shouldn't write it off as ''being finished'' or ''complete'' which is what it says on Sonic Retro, it's still nothing more than a ''broken beta''. v1.2 4. Scorched Quest as far as I know uses the standard SMPS 68k from Sonic 1 which is why the music is slow and yeah it crashed for me in the same special stage. What happened Painto? You were so close to finishing this one and just fell short at 80% done.
@Mario fan and Sonic fan I know he retired but he only announced his retirement last year, this hack is from late 2016 so there was still 3 more years to finish the remaining 20% of this hack before his retirement in 2019. But Painto is awesome none the less and what he has given us still great.
I think it's time I dusted off my old mega drive from the attic and get me one of those everdrive cartridges. I'm definitely going to get the Sonic 3 complete and try the scorched quest too. You're clue made me convinced there was going to be some kind of Sonic X mod game. I was wrong, lol.
I do enjoy pkaying these rom hacks on an everdrive. The sega team player actually works with Sonic Classic Heroes so you can have 3 players on it. I have never tried to punch the cardridge level select with the Sonic 3D director's cut to see if it works on an everdrive like the original game does
i think the reason metal sonic rebooted only worked partially is because of the brand of SD card you use? it’s a very common problem when it comes to this topic.
Only just got around to watching this, gotta say it's actually kinda fun seeing this, though I would personally suggest altering your rating system to maybe an x out of 5 system instead, 5 being fully working and 0 being the obvious dud games, it'd give a little more freedom of ranking and allow a better category mix, alas, just a suggestion :) Keep up the good work
I have an NTSC Genesis Model 2, and a Mega Everdrive X3. Sonic 3 Complete and Sonic Scorched Quest work with no problems for me. (I haven’t played both games fully, so I could be wrong. Also the special stage glitch in Scorched Quest is probably still in my copy) I don’t have Metal Sonic Rebooted and the S-Factor.
The bugs you encountered in Sonic: Scorched Quest and The S Factor are also encountered in some emulators, including the emulator I use; GenPlusDroid, a mobile emulator made for Android phones. Thankfully, that emulator has a rewind button to undo f**k-ups like getting hit, dying, and crashes. But, do it too many times, the emulator itself will crash. Sonic 3 Complete runs flawlessly, but Metal Sonic Rebooted does have a few crashes
1:53 “That makes me sound really unappreciative there, doesn't it? Please don't take this the wrong way! I am extremely grateful for the donation. What my joke was referring to was the fact that my console collection to test Sonic games is not actually complete because of the absence of the WonderMega. Plus, there are a few others missing. I just wanted to make this clear. And if you're reading this , have a good day! :)”
The error of s factor is in emulation too. I tested it on an emulator and the error occured and u were right about the fact that were not meant to be super there
@@silverhed9993 "That makes me sound really unappreciative there, doesn't it? Please don't take this the wrong way! I am extremely grateful for the donation. What my joke was referring to was was the fact that my console collection to test Sonic games is not actually complete because of the absence of the WonderMega. Plus, there are a few others missing. I just wanted to make this clear. And if you're reading this, have a good day! :)" btw, I had to use the chrome command again to pause & type the message out.
As a child the year 2000 i had the sega genesis carteidge add on and was able to play sonic and knuckles complete, i didnt even know what the big cartridge was for until randomly messing with the sega one day and putting sonic 3 on top of sonic and knuckles and it worked, i then put sonic 2 on top and was able to use knuckles in sonic 2, the good ole days
In my opinion sonic 3C delta is more definitive than normal 3C because it uses more things from prototype like sonic 2 sprites with new ones to match s3 sprite sheet and original music with corrections and fixed title screen
Thank you for telling me that Sonic 3 doesn't work on first Sega Genesis because I was real sad when I figured out that it wouldn't work on my 16 bit mega drive
old but for s3 complete pick by game: changes depending on picked game (sonic 3 and complete plays sonic 3 music and s&k zones play sonic & knuckles plays s&k music) pick by zone: (only applies to complete mode) sonic 3 zones play sonic 3 music and s&k zone plays s&k music
1:52 if you wanted read what he said fast put it on 0,25 and time ur stop button he said RedhotSonic: That makes me sound really unappreciative there, doesn't it? Please dont take this the wrong way! I am extremely Grateful for the donation. What my joke was referring to Was the fact that my console collection to test Sonic games is not actually complete because of the absence of the WWondeMega. Plus. there are a few others missing I just wanted to make this clear. And if you're reading this, have a good day! :) The end thank me later ik I'm late xd
Why you say Sega have lied? Sonic 3 Complete is played on a Mega Everdrive, not a real cartridge. At the time Sonic 3 Complete could have been too expensive to produce due to the cost of memory.
@@hyperthethiccboi8698 You're not right. At the time the game would have been too expensive to produce. As i say the cost of memory was expensive at the time.
I just played Sonic Scorched Quest on my phone and thankfully the crash in Special Stage 5 doesn't happen to me. But for some reason when I reached Molten Brain Act 1 the game gave me an illegal instruction error. Good thing I had a previous save stae left over so I managed to finish the game. Then I decided to use the level select but for some reason the game gives me the same error when I try to open a level. Does anyone know why this happens?
I played Sonic 3 Complete and ran into a problem on Marble Garden Zone. In Act 2, I was literally unable to finish the stage. It'll play normally but after beating Robotnik, Sonic and Tails are stuck in place, unable to open the egg pod to finish the stage. I tried everything and couldn't jump up high enough no matter what I did. I don't have an EverDrive so I'm playing on an emulator. I tried contacting the ROM author and never heard back from them. Has anyone else had this problem?
I've played Sonic 3 complete on genesis (Not using a Mega Everdrive) and whenever I reset or turn off the console, all of my save data gets deleted! I'm using a custom cartridge I bought off ebay and don't know if its just a bug or if the rom doesn't save your data on genesis.
I don't know if this makes sense to you for me to say but this is exactly one of the reasons why I strongly feel that Sonic 3 graphics stretches better then most of other Sonic games. They should have put Sonia and silver in a Sonic 3 hack.
Sonic 3 AIR runs on the hardware it originated on just fine. It's a port for IBM PC compatibles and it runs there just fine. Similarly, Sonic 1 and 2 iOS / Android work fine on their target hardware. .... Bring them to something with buttons, Sega.
I would of bought an Ever drive and a MK 1 console myself to play Sonic 3 Complete but it works quite well on my hacked Megadrive Mini. A Bluetooth 6 button joypad also goes quite well.
You also need the Cell Shock which is Sega sponsored Russian only Genesis. It looks nothing like a Genesis but it has the cartridge port right in the same spot.
10:46 it's actually the fifth one. iirc reason for that one to happen was very trivial - reading word from odd adress 😅
Whoops. Yeah, the 5th one, sorry. And I saw on Sonic Retro's wiki that this crash is very rare. That seems to be the case on emulators but on hardware, it's 100% chance of a crash ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What I'M gathering from this is you have a crash where the advice given can honestly be "Git Gud"
@@redhotsonic it happens on the online emulator ssega
@@Icalasari wut?
@@PaintoOfficial Was trying to joke about how that error can be left in and one can just go, "Get better at the game - It's actually a trap". I think some older games actually tried to brush off random crashes as part of the villain's "evil plot"
When rhs was saying that he needs a wondermega there was few sentences for single frame here is what it said: That makes me sound really unappreciative there, dosen't it? Please don't take this the wrong way! I am extremly grateful for the donation. What my joke was referring to was the fact that my console collection to test Sonic games is not actually complete because of the absence of the WonderMega. Plus, there are a few others missing. I just wanted to make this clear.
And if you're reading this, have a good day! :)
No I haven't had a good day and it's 6:20 pm by the time I'm commenting this
when i get money, i should donate the rest of the sega consoles
R.I.P Metal Sonic Rebooted.
What happened
@@Duckyy. its broken.
The Imfamous Fox your tails
@@julyborell he's my favourite character
Guess he couldn't reboot
If I remember right, Metal Sonic Rebooted can't work on real hardware because it uses music the actual Genesis hardware can't handle, at least that's what happened when I tried it on an Everdrive.
Dang dude that's a good fact to play it on an emulator or don't play at all to not get mad.
Honestly what someone could do is make one using it
I figured sonic 3 complete would work perfectly. There really wasn't any alterations to the game like sprites or levels. All it is is just a perfectly bundled game with options the original sonic games don't offer you. Actually it should be made into legitimate game rather than a rom hack.
Yeah agreed it would have been cool if they added the drop dash and tails flight cancel
Also, I'm pretty sure on his review, he said it worked real hardware anyway.
@@MCsonic537 no he didn't
Why wasn't it a full package before? Funny how a rom hack can play on original hardware but the actual games can't (combined).
@@traviseller8160 I think that "they couldnt fit the game in one cartridge cus it was too big" thing was a myth the real reason was a fucking McDonalds promotion lol they had to release the game on time for the promotion but they couldnt finish it so they just released one part of it and released the other part a few months later.
2:31 Pick by game means if you play S&K or S3K, it plays the S&K themes. Pick by zone means when you’re in the Sonic 3 zones, it plays Sonic 3 themes. In the S&K zones, it plays S&K themes. Pick by character though, my guess is that it plays S&K themes when you play as Knuckles, and it plays Sonic 3 themes as the other characters.
I had to discover it by myself, but thanks to put it on words.
But what does means "theme/event control"?
@@mauriciominicuci6544 No idea.
@@tunafissh probably item box sounds, like invincebility, life up, etc
This guy is a beast. Love seeing you take on 4 games at once. Wait. This is starting to sound weird
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Out of context, you mean?
1:53 Aww, I hope you have a good day too!
This is probably my favorite little series of videos I've discovered, such a unique and fun concept to check to see if all of these romhacks actually stay faithful what the systems were capable of!
8:38 that wheeze was perfect
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You forgot the magic word for crashing
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You’re think of Sonic Megamix. Are you?
Yerp
puhahahahaha!
That's a good one
only works in Sonic 1
Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 (standalone) jump to an endless loop of nothing (i.e. a freeze) on every exception, while Sonic & Knuckles (and as a result Sonic 3 & Knuckles) jumps to the same thing, just without the branch, which makes it reset the game instead
So happy I watched this video and thank you so very very much for including the downloads to the roms you tested. It feels like my old genesis has come back to life thank to you and the creators of the rom hacks. Deffinately feels alot beter playing on original hardware instead of on a emulated device.
10:42 That actually does happen in some emulators. It occurred on my first playthrough of the game on the Genesis Plus GX emulator.
that’s the wii/gamecube emulator right?
@@gaminclampshow Yep, that's the one. segaretro.org/Genesis_Plus_GX
@@gaminclampshow it's also one of the main retroarch emulators
We learn from our mistakes, and adapt our knowledge by digging deeper into rom hacks and testing methodologies. The Sonic 3 remakes are fantastic. 4:39 and the ending were hilarious 😂
Agreed
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The reason metal sonic rebooted has issues is because of the 32x songs that were converted and used. Many hack games out there that use 32x songs with the same conversion method as have this issue once you go to legit software.
I always assumed it was a bug brought on by an outdated variant of the sound driver (Clownacy's Sonic 2 Cloned V2 driver in 68k) as the early builds of gamma V's ''Sonic Legacy'' used the same outdated driver that had the same bug where it kept crashing sporadically in game. KCEXE (Lone Devil's music porter) done a poor job on this one, and innocently reporting feedback to Lone Devil on addressing bugs in his hacks is like a free punch in the face, the guy just insults you and tells you that he doesn't care.
Thank you so much redhotsonic for testing ''Metal Sonic Rebooted'' it shows that these issues were not just down to me which is what Lone Devil believed.
I'm genuinely surprised that 3 Complete can work on real hardware considering all the new stuff they added to it.
IIRC they did some real disassembly and could make changes and even fix some bugs.
dropped a like before even watching. that shows how i know the videos gonna be good
EDIT: Have watched it and can safely say this video works on real hardware. tested it through many operating systems like windows 10, and no errors have occured. except from the ones that redhotsonic experienced in the 4 rom hacks...
Same
@@Some_Cat_ ayy i see someone is like me
Check out my commen-
@@dianaloayzat4975 OH NO there has been the rare occurance of a comment not loading. i revoke my rating to a partially, as the comments seem to have errors, though the video itself is fine.
@@QuiteTolerable Troll.
This question is so easy to answer. If its a fan game/fan remake its not compatible with real hardware or emulated hardware but if its a "rom" hack or the same game but with "patches" applied its most definitely compatible with real fake or emulated hardware
There's a lot of ROM hacks that don't work with real hardware because they rely on incorrect emulation behavior.
I admit as much as I live this "Does it work on real hardware?" Series, seeing these flash back to the old rom hack reviews, it makes me miss them, hopefully you'll review another Sonic game soon, like maybe Sonic 3 A.I.R. or another rom hack, like Sonic Mega Mix, I hope you do more like those, I'd love see more reviews from you RedhotSonic
I've been debating it however my reviews except for one or two wasn't doing really well so I slowed them down. I'll probably do the odd one here and there (like I did with girl's Garden and Sonic GBA) but BDIWORH will have priority :)
@@redhotsonic Okay, I understand, good luck with more content
1:52
The Wondermegas/X'Eyes are pretty expensive, the american models coming in at 260-1155 USD, or 200-885 pound sterling. An eBay seller wanted 599.98 USD or 459.98 pound sterling. An X'Eye complete in its box would be only a few bucks over, so why I am saying the American version more is because I'm from that region.
8:38, so this is metal sonic rebooted reboot. It reboots.
Is that the sonic 1 boss "remix" from the s factor I hear as the outro song?
Great video as always red
honestly i'm not suprised Metal Sonic Rebooted didn't work 100%
i'm pretty sure its too high quality for the genesis (Literally)
I dunno if I ever said this before, but I feel Sonic 3 Complete could go with one final update, or at least a patch of sorts for the current build; Mainly, a larger and accurate Release/Prototype palette swap selection (for such zones as Hydrocity, Launch Base, Mushroom Valley, Flying Battery, Lava Reef, Doomsday, and I guess also the Slot Machine bonus stage?), the authentic proto tracks over ValleyBell's remixes, the ability to Drop Dash with both the Nov 3 and Mania methods, and an optional separate patch for Sonic's proto sprites (because the official online customization options did include sprite sets from Sonic 1/CD and 2… no Nick Arcade set though).
5:10
I’ve encountered some crashes with the Super forms myself.
Like when beating the Scrap Brain level, the game constantly crashes as it’s trying to turn the character’s color palette back to Sonic’s. The only way I managed to slightly prevent it as Silver, was by activating his psychokineses and keep it on until I pass the sign. Even then, it only works if I manually turn it on, so I can’t just hover.
Also, I should mention that you save your Chaos Emeralds until you reset the game or pick a new character. So you technically can just go and play the second level after gaining the seventh emerald and dying or beating the game.
The big question of every red hot Sonic video in 2020: BUT DOES IT WORK ON REAL HARDWARE?
"IT'S NO USE!" Haha classic xD
I was actually hoping you would test Scorched Quest at some point :D
well i did
@@aaronsandhu5074 not u he means redhotsonic
@Command64 nah he didn't
1:34 Me: *comments redhotsonic’s post*
Redhotsonic: You spoiled the whole thing
Also Redhotsonic: *grabs chainsaw*
Yet also Redhotsonic: COME HERE.
Hi dude
m&m Thiago Amaral Hi
@@jenniferchavira oh jeez that was fast
m&m Thiago Amaral I get notified
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I had a good feeling that S3 Complete would work. Now even though the Genesis Mini is emulation I put S3 Complete in there since there was no S3&K due to the obvious reasons. Now with you (redhotsonic) testing the other 3 games maybe you should share this video with the creators of those rom hacks/homebrews so maybe they can go and fix these errors and you then can try again to get them to work on the actual hardware.
Redhotsonic, I'm going on a vacation and also,have a nice vacation!
8:37
Metal sonic: Bye have a good time.
Sonic 3 complete is one of the best Sonic Hack aside Megamix.
It's a real shame Sonic 3 Complete was abandoned because I would love to see at least, one more update that includes the November 1993 Prototype soundtracks for their respective Zones.
Those tracks ARE in Sonic 3 Complete, though not the originals. But hey at least you have the remixes!
You can enable them in the main options menu.
@@SonicGamer-zw3wf I was talking about the Prototype versions of the track. More specificallys the arrangements that were composed originally by the dev team in SEGA, not the ones that ValleyBell got from the PC Collection and just made a MIDI conversation into a YM2612 VGM format.
@@megamix5403 Honestly, I wanted to have the original prototype tracks in Sonic 3 Complete as well. The PC collection versions aren't as good as the originals. If only it was an option in the S3C customiser.
Especially the Special/Super Sonic theme.
@@SonicGamer-zw3wf Yes, that's exactly what I mean, like I know what you're trying to say in the first. Technically speaking, the songs from the PC version/Beta are already there but I was talking about the arrangements, because they are more official sounding and fit better overall with the style of S3&K and it makes sense given, that it's from a beta build with SEGA themselves.
@@megamix5403 The only way now to put the original tracks in the game is to wait for a possible update or take the matter into our own hands and, with some ROM hacking tools, put them in ourselves. Since I'm trying to get into the Sonic hacking community, I might do it. Either way it's possible.
Awesome video yet again Redhotsonic! Congratulations on now owning a PAL Mega Drive/Mega-CD model 2/SEGA Genesis/SEGA-CD model 2/Japanese Mega Drive/Mega-CD model 2 and Genesis model 1 console. Let it be known to all us blokes out there, our wives always end up having the final say. Never upset the misses.
1. Sonic 3 Complete = perfect no hiccups or weird surprises.
2. The S Factor is just a prick of a game with awful level designs and many dick moves. I randomly got a crash once in one of the special stages and once at the score tally of Spectra Valley Act 1. The crashes in this one seem to be at random points.
3. I spoke to Lone Devil about Metal Sonic Rebooted and how it resets itself back to the sega logo screen from the title screen each and every time in PAL, I even made a video about it and I mentioned it in Redhotsonic's Metal Sonic Rebooted review, Funny thing is that this happens on emulators too and if you boot the ROM on the USA setting and then switch it to Europe the music is slow but it doesn't reset itself at the title screen, anyway after speaking to Darkon360/Lone Devil his response was this.
''Does it really crash while getting a 1up (that's just a sfx) and Chaos Emerald? I always think it's either a Sonic 2 thing or has to do with Clownacy's updated clone driver because there were no issues presented in Hyperdrive. I still don't have an Everdrive yet and the only emu besides Regen I can count on for crashes is BlastEm, I RARELY crash at the end of act 2 and there's nothing I can do that could solve it, maybe it's the S3K error handler itself after all. there's a reason I made the music fadeout for act 1s.
Also I couldn't figure why the title screen crashes and wouldn't bother because why on earth would any reasonable being play at 50hz?''
Well if that's going to be his attitude towards his own game then Lone Devil shouldn't write it off as ''being finished'' or ''complete'' which is what it says on Sonic Retro, it's still nothing more than a ''broken beta''. v1.2
4. Scorched Quest as far as I know uses the standard SMPS 68k from Sonic 1 which is why the music is slow and yeah it crashed for me in the same special stage. What happened Painto? You were so close to finishing this one and just fell short at 80% done.
@Mario fan and Sonic fan I know he retired but he only announced his retirement last year, this hack is from late 2016 so there was still 3 more years to finish the remaining 20% of this hack before his retirement in 2019. But Painto is awesome none the less and what he has given us still great.
I think it's time I dusted off my old mega drive from the attic and get me one of those everdrive cartridges. I'm definitely going to get the Sonic 3 complete and try the scorched quest too. You're clue made me convinced there was going to be some kind of Sonic X mod game. I was wrong, lol.
I do enjoy pkaying these rom hacks on an everdrive. The sega team player actually works with Sonic Classic Heroes so you can have 3 players on it.
I have never tried to punch the cardridge level select with the Sonic 3D director's cut to see if it works on an everdrive like the original game does
i think the reason metal sonic rebooted only worked partially is because of the brand of SD card you use? it’s a very common problem when it comes to this topic.
I highly doubt it. The X7 uses a miniSD and V3 uses a full size. Both sandisks which are extremely reliable.
X
Does S Factor work on real hardware
YES *Sonia gives thumbs up at right moment*
Yay My Request was in :D
(I'm Jacob Betancourt)
Perfection of sonic 3
Only just got around to watching this, gotta say it's actually kinda fun seeing this, though I would personally suggest altering your rating system to maybe an x out of 5 system instead, 5 being fully working and 0 being the obvious dud games, it'd give a little more freedom of ranking and allow a better category mix, alas, just a suggestion :) Keep up the good work
As someone with a Sonic 3C rom customized to be among the lines of the prototype, I’m really happy with it and the hardware analysis.
I have an NTSC Genesis Model 2, and a Mega Everdrive X3. Sonic 3 Complete and Sonic Scorched Quest work with no problems for me. (I haven’t played both games fully, so I could be wrong. Also the special stage glitch in Scorched Quest is probably still in my copy) I don’t have Metal Sonic Rebooted and the S-Factor.
Cybershell once said that Sonic 3 Complete would fit on an actual cartridge.
I miss him.
He is back
That also happened to me on an emulator 10:41 but I’m glad savestates and rewind feature can save you from this
I guess there's no use in trying to turn super in Arid Temple 😎
Nice joke garrulous64
yeah
Someone had to say it
10:42 Its not the hardware's fault. I play it on a website and the same happened there in the same special stage.
The bugs you encountered in Sonic: Scorched Quest and The S Factor are also encountered in some emulators, including the emulator I use; GenPlusDroid, a mobile emulator made for Android phones. Thankfully, that emulator has a rewind button to undo f**k-ups like getting hit, dying, and crashes. But, do it too many times, the emulator itself will crash. Sonic 3 Complete runs flawlessly, but Metal Sonic Rebooted does have a few crashes
When you mention the rom hack that we begged for i thought you finally do your rom hack S2 recreation
Yeah, that's another one I've gotta do. Just waiting for a few things to happen first then I'll start production on that one.
1:53
“That makes me sound really unappreciative there, doesn't it? Please don't take this the wrong way! I am extremely grateful for the donation. What my joke was referring to was the fact that my console collection to test Sonic games is not actually complete because of the absence of the WonderMega. Plus, there are a few others missing. I just wanted to make this clear.
And if you're reading this , have a good day! :)”
The error of s factor is in emulation too. I tested it on an emulator and the error occured and u were right about the fact that were not meant to be super there
1:53 the message was so fast, I actually had to use a chrome developer command to even pause on the frame to read what it said.
What did it say
@@silverhed9993 "That makes me sound really unappreciative there, doesn't it? Please don't take this the wrong way! I am extremely grateful for the donation. What my joke was referring to was was the fact that my console collection to test Sonic games is not actually complete because of the absence of the WonderMega. Plus, there are a few others missing. I just wanted to make this clear. And if you're reading this, have a good day! :)" btw, I had to use the chrome command again to pause & type the message out.
Thanks
You must be drenching wet knowing your wife splashed you with some refreshing water. XD
Yeah that part was funny as hell.
7:36 lmao the drummer died
Congrats redhotsonic
7:36
Now that was just comedic
As a child the year 2000 i had the sega genesis carteidge add on and was able to play sonic and knuckles complete, i didnt even know what the big cartridge was for until randomly messing with the sega one day and putting sonic 3 on top of sonic and knuckles and it worked, i then put sonic 2 on top and was able to use knuckles in sonic 2, the good ole days
In my opinion sonic 3C delta is more definitive than normal 3C because it uses more things from prototype like sonic 2 sprites with new ones to match s3 sprite sheet and original music with corrections and fixed title screen
Thank you for telling me that Sonic 3 doesn't work on first Sega Genesis because I was real sad when I figured out that it wouldn't work on my 16 bit mega drive
8:37 well, Metal Sonic rebooted, so that's fine!
old but for s3 complete pick by game: changes depending on picked game (sonic 3 and complete plays sonic 3 music and s&k zones play sonic & knuckles plays s&k music) pick by zone: (only applies to complete mode) sonic 3 zones play sonic 3 music and s&k zone plays s&k music
Great video keep up the great work 👍🏽
1:52 You're Also Missing the SEGA Genesis Model 3 & JVC X'EYE
And the Nomad!
@@redhotsonic & Let's Not Forget About the Genesis CDX/Multi-Mega
@@WindowsSe7enXP jesus he is missing quite alot
Incredibly underrated.
1:52 if you wanted read what he said fast put it on 0,25 and time ur stop button he said
RedhotSonic: That makes me sound really unappreciative there, doesn't it?
Please dont take this the wrong way! I am extremely
Grateful for the donation. What my joke was referring to
Was the fact that my console collection to test Sonic games
is not actually complete because of the absence of the
WWondeMega. Plus. there are a few others missing
I just wanted to make this clear.
And if you're reading this, have a good day! :)
The end thank me later ik I'm late xd
I actually think that Sonic Scorched Quest's title theme sounds good in unoptimized 50hz!
I bought a sonic 3 complete cartridge off of Etsy from 3 years ago and still have and love it! it!
Sonic 3 and Knuckles is one my favorite platformers along with Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy Kong's Quest.
What's the point in playing Standalone Sonic 3 and Standalone Sonic & Knuckles when there's Sonic 3 Complete and Blue Sphere to be played?
I wish I can you get S factor in the graphics of Sonic 3 edition. I can see it was totally rock with Sonia & Silver and maybe some guest characters.
I like it when your wife just jumps in lol
Metal Sonic rebooted is just giving a big middle finger to you every damn second
I mean it's not lying with being rebooted,it happens like every 7 secs
Hey since you posted this I saw me on my cartridge
This basically proves that SEGA lied to us about Sonic 3 and Knuckles not fitting onto one cartridge.
Why you say Sega have lied? Sonic 3 Complete is played on a Mega Everdrive, not a real cartridge. At the time Sonic 3 Complete could have been too expensive to produce due to the cost of memory.
@@yohanntoutain2682 welp i do have a sonic 3 complete cartridge and i can confirm thst it does work on the sega genesis so sega lied ethier way
@@hyperthethiccboi8698 You're not right. At the time the game would have been too expensive to produce. As i say the cost of memory was expensive at the time.
There is Physical versions of S3C. Which proves that 3andKnuckles is indeed possible on one cart.
@@SonicPlayer2004 i was just about to comment that
I just played Sonic Scorched Quest on my phone and thankfully the crash in Special Stage 5 doesn't happen to me. But for some reason when I reached Molten Brain Act 1 the game gave me an illegal instruction error. Good thing I had a previous save stae left over so I managed to finish the game. Then I decided to use the level select but for some reason the game gives me the same error when I try to open a level. Does anyone know why this happens?
Yes it works becouse i have cartridge of sonic 3 complete form aliexpres and it works very Good:)
I have it on real cartdrige as well and it works perfectly, even saves.
I played Sonic 3 Complete and ran into a problem on Marble Garden Zone. In Act 2, I was literally unable to finish the stage. It'll play normally but after beating Robotnik, Sonic and Tails are stuck in place, unable to open the egg pod to finish the stage. I tried everything and couldn't jump up high enough no matter what I did. I don't have an EverDrive so I'm playing on an emulator. I tried contacting the ROM author and never heard back from them. Has anyone else had this problem?
I haven't had this problem... A glitch had probably occurred earlier
Second but redhotsonic what is your favorite sonic game
It's ok
10:44 Sometimes that happens to me when I homing attack a buzzy bomber in Sonic 2 Retro Remix (Thank God for RetroArch's Rewinding though 😅)
How many Genesis/Megadrives do you want?
RHS: Y e s
I've played Sonic 3 complete on genesis (Not using a Mega Everdrive) and whenever I reset or turn off the console, all of my save data gets deleted! I'm using a custom cartridge I bought off ebay and don't know if its just a bug or if the rom doesn't save your data on genesis.
7:07 metal Sonic’s super form is actually metal sonic with yellow eyes
I don't know if this makes sense to you for me to say but this is exactly one of the reasons why I strongly feel that Sonic 3 graphics stretches better then most of other Sonic games. They should have put Sonia and silver in a Sonic 3 hack.
Yeah i agree
Sonic scortch quest was nice enough to give a report on why it crashed
Sonic 3 complete is the complete experience of sonic 3 and knuckles
The extra charater in the s factor is scorge the hedgehog
Hold on, aren't you the guy in the sonic 3C credits?
Yeah, as technical assistance.
@@redhotsonic That's so cool! I love that game I've played it to bits.
I love alot of old Classic Sonic rom hacks, i play them on my PlayStation Classic (Genesis Plus GX/PicoDrive).
8:02 Konuşurken "aaarrgghh" diye bağıran ben.
Sonic 3 AIR runs on the hardware it originated on just fine. It's a port for IBM PC compatibles and it runs there just fine. Similarly, Sonic 1 and 2 iOS / Android work fine on their target hardware. .... Bring them to something with buttons, Sega.
I would of bought an Ever drive and a MK 1 console myself to play Sonic 3 Complete but it works quite well on my hacked Megadrive Mini. A Bluetooth 6 button joypad also goes quite well.
As an additional data point, Sonic 3 Complete works fine using VC inject on a homebrew 3DS.
You also need the Cell Shock which is Sega sponsored Russian only Genesis. It looks nothing like a Genesis but it has the cartridge port right in the same spot.
Okay but where is that remix of the Sonic 1 boss in the outro from???
I already knew Sonic 3 Complete worked on real hardware
Ah yes sonic 3 the best genesis title
10:42 His Reaction xD
To be fair a bucket of water would be nice at the moment
10:40 bir "aaarrgghh" vakası daha.
I own a pirate cart of Metal Sonic Rebooted and while the game can freeze, i have beaten it a few times. I used a model 3 Genesis for my playthroughs.
8:23 That also happens on emulation if the region is set to EUR