Grant Morrison's Fantastic Four | Fantastic Four: 1234
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Reed Richards. Sue Richards. Benjamin Grimm. Johnny Storm. They rocketed into outer space aboard an experimental starship, the first humans to attempt interstellar travel. But a freak encounter with cosmic radiation altered their lives forever, granting each amazing abilities! Now, Marvel's First Family finds its members divided - their unique powers stretched to the absolute limit, their time-tested resolve pushed to the point of breaking. Each chapter of this quintessential collection focuses on one member of the cosmic quartet as the team's greatest foes band together in an all-out assault on the FF! Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #fantasticfour #marvel
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Ok ok, Jesus I’ll do it!
@@alponte_ LOL
The true champ for the episode was Ethan for sticking it out and coming in the show even tho he wasn’t feeling well. I hope you have a speedy recovery!
So thrilled you're finally covering this book!
Two years in the making! I finally found a trade paperback of it in the bargain bins and was like, "Here we go!"
For Ethan. He earned it
Hahah
It's surprising Morrison didn't write anymore Fantastic Four. Normal F4 stories involve the trippiest stuff you've seen.
Well, things are already weird in the FF world, what else could Morrison add?
Besides, I don't think they relate to the FF as much as they do the X-Men. While the X-Men are a queer group of misfits and minorities fighting for their right to exist, the FF is a straight family of celebrities. All Morrison could do with them is shake them up and leave like they did here.
And now they’re being written by the guy who did Squirrel Girl lmao (this is not an insult by the way. Ryan North is a national treasure and we must all do our part to protect him)
@@bacsilva Makes sense on the relating part but I don't doubt that Morrison's ability to make weird stuff weirder.
@Chris Daily Can you recommend any of these trippier FF stories? Apart from Full Circle?
@@Coreyw_art Not with their names or issue numbers unfortunately. There's the one where the first issue has the gang save Reed are escaping Castle Doom and the next issue it's revealed and Doom and Reed were fighting in the background out of time and jumping in every second or so. Any story with Psycho Man is just bizarre as instead of just being an emotion controlling supervillain he is also a member of the microverse who ocassionally pilots a human sized mech suit. When Medusa was on the team, the FF ended in a Salvador Dali painting and had to escape before they succunbed to his style. Hickman's run established the Council of Reeds, the Parliament of Doom, and the Mad Celestials. Passing through the Negative Zone was initially portrayes by Kirby with actual photos in a collage. The TVA was introduced in the Fantastic Four who all look like Mark Gruenwald, the real life continuity director of Marvel Comics at the time. An older version of the child the Invisible Woman lost named Valeria came before convincing Franklin to cause her own birth which had to be solved by Doom (hence her name). Galactus was killed revealing an entity he had been holding back called Abraxas who is the antithesis to Eternity. It was resolved by Franklin Richards bringing back Galactus to summon the Ultimate Nullifier. Using the Nullifier they destroyed Abraxas and brought back Eternity. After the Thing dies they went to heaven to get him back meeting Jack Kirby who gets a call from Stan Lee who calls him to do a story with the Silver Surfer and Black Panther.
1) Ben had me laughing from the first few seconds! And then it looks like he may have been a DX fan back in the day! lol
2) Ethan obviously has a sore throat. As this is recorded, I'm sure he's better now but thanks for powering through! And that prime mover tidbit was interesting.
3) No matter if Sal loves or hates a book, his passion for the comic books and the characters always comes through.
4) Hi,Tiffany! lol
Even with a sore throat, Ethan proves a powerful member of these couch summits - dearly missed when absent. Always looking forward to Wednesdays!
53:53 I like to think that if Grant Morrison were writing Ultimate Fantastic Four, this would have been there backstory for ultimate Doom.
Ethan is a fucking trooper. You can hear he's definitely getting over something and he's still on the couch.
I see the title "1234", and all I can think of is the theme song for the 2003 TMNT cartoon. XD
0:10 Right there with you Ben! Was so confused when Sal started counting 🤣
So excited to see more of the FF on this channel. I'm going to send a copy of Unthinkable and Authortative Action because i believe either of those runs (the latter immediately following the former) would be great for back issues when the inevitable Fantastic Four episode comes, closer to the film release.
God yes! Those 2 are some of my favourite FF content
I kinda hate this story, but Jae Lee's art is very fun to look at. Plus it's interesting to hear Sal's thoughts on almost anything!
Yes another FF story. Love it each time on back issues
Ben's realization that Grabt Morrison wrote a story he digs, just fills me. With what idk, but I'm definitely full.
Reed Richards: "4D Chess no Jutsu!"
Seriously, though, a Naruto reference here, for this story of all things? I can't... _believe it._
Doom being an evil doppelganger of Reed would work great in Ultimate universe
Grant Morrison was supposed to work on the ultimate fantastic four comic but ended up not working on it. This could have been an idea Morrison had left over.
Ethan’s soft “WRONG” was so funny dude. Sounded like Alex Luther turned into a mouse.
Ethan sounds sick, I hope he gets better soon
Pros and Cons of Ethan being sick in this episode:
Cons: being sick
Pros: *being an absolute champ, playing for the team and receive an upgrade to his already soothing jazz voice*
A FF series by Morrison in the style of Invicibles or Doom Patrol would have been incredible.
Definitely!
Probably, since Animal Man is good. I’d love to see Sue take command of Reed’s “thought room” & make it more a meditation center for them.
I know Sal means that this is the only Marvel Knights book for the FF during Marvel Knights heyday, but there was another FF Marvel Knights series a few years later written by the guy who did Archie Afterlife and it’s actually pretty good!
"It's your labyrinth package Boweie," Sal's best quote ever!
Did Ben Grimm inspire that B-52's song? "We were walking Yancy Street... then we saw a rock... but it wasn't a rock... it was a ROCK. MONSTER!"
Rock Monster from the Veggietales pirate movie?
Sal talking about Morrison's views on Sue and Johnny reminded me of when Morrison was writing Batman incorporated, and brought back the original batwoman (Kathy Kane), they had Kane marry Bruce's uncle on his mother's side. So she was legally his aunt by marriage. After her husband died and she became batwoman, her and Bruce still hooked up afterwards. Why is Morrison's search history constantly leaking into their comic books?😂😂😂😂
New 52: I'll pretend I didn't hear that.
See, stuff like this is why I will never understand how Grant Morrison's brain works. Like, they'll write some of the most famous and seminal stories on some of DC's greatest characters, that manage to tie together all of the disparate parts of their history while still feeling genuine and maintaining the core essence of the characters, and then they'll go and say something like "oh yeah Batman kissed his own aunt in the Golden Age lmao" and I'll just be like "Why are you like this?"
@@halfmettlealchemist8076 try reading THE FILTH. It's beyond insane.
I hate to point this out, BUT... Wasn't the whole thing about the Skrull Alicia reveal was that she'd NEVER dated Johnny? The Skrull who took her place did, because she'd been planted to replace Alicia DURING Secret Wars, specifically to hook up with Ben afterwards, but Ben never came back so she moved to Johnny to keep her position.
That incest thing came outta nowhere and my fucking jaw dropped. Also poor Ethan lol.
Reed and Sue's relationship was always weird especially when Byrne wrote them. The reveal that Sue knew and was interested in Reed when he was 20 and she was 10 was creepy and wrong.
John Byrne has a weird fascination with age gaps. Thankfully Matt Fraction retconned Byrne’s retcon in his run.
@@YourMarvelFan I haven't read many John Byrne stories but I do know the weird things in those stories like the age difference Sue and Reed or Kitty and Piotr. And let's not forget about Sleez.
Its weird that a young person is interested in someone older? I dont see what's creepy about that.
@@vicentegeonix If Chris Hansen wasn't in jail, he'd probably like to talk.
@@g.a.2997 you know damn well everyone as a kid like older people, is normal we all have crushes as kids.
I’ve always wondered if every time namor fights Johnny he gets really mad because he doesn’t think Johnny is worthy of the human torch mantle
I always said Nay-mor as in
-"Have you had enough?"
-"Nay! MORE!"
Oh boy! Who doesn’t love when Comic Pop talks about the FF? I think some of the funniest bits from this show, come from FF episodes. Always love your work and keep it up!
Just want to shout out Ethan for recording this when he’s clearly sick
I read this story when I was laid up with a broken leg and hand. My family got it for me as a "get well" present. I really liked it.
54:39 that was the most synchronized what I’ve ever had with a person🤣Ethan I relate to you so much get well soon💯
So... Grant Morrison wants Dr Doom to be... Negaduck?
Also, if you decide to do another Fantastic Four story, maybe look at when Chris Claremont wrote it? Would really like to see your opinions of it. A Future Foundation episode would be fun too! Hey, it had Spider-Man! lol
Sal's consistency of correctly using Grant's pronouns just makes me love him and this channel more and more. It's hard AF, I get it. I have my troubles too with NB folks. Just impressed as per usual.
Somebody go get our boy Ethan some Robitussin & some honey lemon tea , feel better my dude !
I am surprised we haven't seen more of Grant Morrison on fantastic four because his story for the first family sounds very interesting especially from a causal fantastic four fan like myself.
Grant Morrison should never be allowed near Marvel ever again 😤
@@kayaanbedi5554 Your Referring too his X-Men run.
@@kayaanbedi5554 your referring to his X-Men run with xorn right.
Never thought we’d get this on Back Issues. One of my favorites - so excited!
Completely forgot that Morrison wrote Marvel, I always associate them with DC.
Yeah. I wonder what else they've written for Marvel
Morrison actually wrote one of the all-time best X-Men runs for Marvel, and I think a lot of the ideas they introduced in their run influenced Hickman’s X-Men as well. It’s really high-concept and weird, even for Morrison, but overall I think it’s worth a read.
🎶 1,2,3,4
Get your woman, on the floor🎶
In all honesty, without the commas, it does look like a year. Good form Ben 👍🏽
It would be funny if one of Reed's big moves was to bring in Spider-man to make things much harder for both of them, but mostly for Doom who doesn't know Spider-man/Peter Parker anything like as well as Reed does.
I think Grant Morrison was supposed to write (and even conceptualized) ultimate Fantastic Four.
I’m honestly okay that he didn’t.
Get better soon past Ethan 😁
It seems like when Doom has a take over the world plan, he just calls Namor. He's dumb and thinks we're equals. Promise him the ocean and he'll do whatever you want. Hey Namor, you wanna control the thing youre pretty much in control of now
Would love to see you tackle the JMS run of Fantastic 4 someday.
I really hope Morrison writes more marvel. Their X-Men run is my favorite run on X-Men. I would LOVE to see them on a character like Moon Knight !
I know I’m a couple months late but would you recommend this to someone who is starting to read X-Men to go with the Grant Morrison era?
@@lexofpower2822 Yes I think the Morrison run is a decent place to start however if you enjoy it I would go back and read the classic Claremont era. I don't recommend starting with Claremont just because it can be daunting however it is still essential reading.
@@giannilmao I’ve read God Loves, Man Kills, and I’m reading Days of Future Past
Love seeing the FF on this channel. Also, I hope Ethan feels better.
Ya. This was a really cool plot. Morrison's characterization of Johnny and Ben I feel was way off the mark.. But the plot constantly unfolding was enough to keep me invested. I wish they'd give F4 another shot. 20 years is more then enough time to have a change in perspective on characters that you probably didnt think to fondly of before. Gotta admit, Morrison captures legacy like no other.
HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT?!
MORRISON'S TAKE ON F4 IS A BASTARDIZATION OF THE ICONIC FIRST FAMILY
I actually really enjoyed this when I read it years ago. It was one of the first fantastic 4 books I had read at the time & really had a lot of interesting things going on. I think I still have the oversized hardback.
“wrong” 😂😂😂
Feel better, Ethan! ❤
I’m excited to watch. Always hope to see more from you guys!!!👍👍 take care guys 👋
47:39 THIS IS FROM THE SAME GUY WHO WROTE ONE OF THE BEST JLA RUNS; WTF GRANT?!
You think that's wild, check out a vertigo book Grant wrote called THE FILTH.😂😂😂
I thank you the Comic PoP team for making me want to dig this series out of my longbox for a reread😊
Fantastic Four: *is sad and miserable*
Me: *slouching* A typical Tuesday in the Marvel Universe.
Doctor Doom: *shows up*
Me: *sits up* Go on.
8:05 Almost choked on my foot hearing that.
I love when you guys do F4 stories
Sal just criticized it on another show! I didn’t think he would be covering it so quickly after that lol.
Still hoping to get a future foundation video sometime.
yo I love the fantastic four for the found family themes, and I'm curious to see Grant Morrison's take on it.
HELL NO
47:40 Damn LSD is one Hell of a drug.
Sweet. Was hoping for a batman story in light of recent events but hey maybe next one. Happy Thanksgiving comicpop!
Edit: also hope Ethan gets better too. He sounds like he is losing his voice
Sometimes we film episodes a couple weeks ahead of times, especially with holidays coming up!
@@TheRealZubes no doubt they're recorded ahead of time and no knock against yall because you guys are definitely a highlight to the week! That being said I heard the podcast on the second channel about Kevin and it was very well done by Sal!
@@ninja1man4u yeah it was really cathartic and a great celebration of Kevin!
I think that Grant was part of the planning for Ultimate fantastic 4
45:38 *WHEEEEEEZ*
The ending 🤣😭
I remember this from GBU
42:49 Reed Chad face
39:01 Labyrinth package!
Does anyone one know the name of that one episode they did, where Sue is being controlled by something and is fighting Mr Fantastic? Sue is incredibly mad at him, so Reed decides to say something misogynistic which makes Sue so mad she faints. I'm pretty sure it was one of the Back Issues, but I'm not sure which one
Mephisto vs i think
@@donb7519 I skipped though the episode and I don't think that's it. After Mephisto gets Sue, he goes after the X-men. There isn't a point in the episode where Sue fights Reed. Thanks though :)
I think they talk about it in their Secret Wars II episode. (It’s from Byrne’s FF.)
@@elliotwiley3470 Yup that's the one Thank you!
@@elliotwiley3470 yea youre right
Get better, Ethan!
An Omni communicator isn’t really impressive unless it lets everything talk back to you. I can already talk to fish, walls, chairs, and basically everything else… and I don’t even have an Omni communicator.
Oh boy Fantastic Four! .....Oh GOD no Grant Morrison!
Great ep guys!
Yes! A Fantastic Four episode!
lol So Dr.Doom used the incomplete Hulk time machine from Endgame and sent time through him. Would like to see the first appearance of Doom.
1:02:33 *WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE*
Reed Richard's basically said do what king piccolo did.
Damn, Double doom!!!
Morrison at Marvel (X-Men, Marvel boy) feels like a different person from Morrison at DC(Superman,JLA)
I feel so bad for Ben
Another FFFFantastic banger.
Ethan’s sounding a bit sick, hope he’s feeling better 👍
Been anticipating this, since the GBU
Maybe it's because of Faith, but I keep wanting Jody Houser to stuff like Fantastic Four or X-Men.
Great vids guys! 👍🏿
I love your videos have you Ever consider doing jla the nail in the show
Now that y'all have done this y'all have to do Thor: Vikings !
They talked about the first issue on an episode of GBU if you’re curious and missed it! It’s in the “R-Rated Marvel Comics” episode
Get well soon Ethan!
Okay, it's time for the prestige! *pulls off Groucho Mask to reveal my real Mask*
This is the first comic that I picked out for myself and bought with actual money from the first job I've ever had! When watching this all of my biases came out! And these are the comics that made me way too lenient on Doom and Namor
I’ve had this book for like 3 years and still havent read it
Ethan lost his voice this week? If so, hope for a speedy recovery!
This wasn't just my first FF comic, this was one of my FIRST comics. And I still think it's over my head lol. But it inspired my fondness for Namor and shaped my view of Richards to this day. That was 2014-2015.
And it sparked my love of Jae Lee. This and New 52 Batman-Superman.
I love this show part 9! I don't have a movie to spoof? Another Ft13? Part 9 Back Issues goes to hell! But not lol
Fun episode!! 🙏
“I’ve missed all kinds of things walking through that horrible city” ahhhhhh yes comments like this make me miss New York
I Recently Read This... I liked This Storyline...
Get well Ethan!
In my minds eye i see my Irelands tri colour in the top left made up of the green lantern, a shelf, and a cosmic cube :-) yay