The old BYD Tang 86kWh battery used to have a delay of 3-4 mins to ramp up charging. From what I see this is no longer the case ? Have you also tested a 10-80% and does it really take 45mins ? I mean, the old one had quite a flat curve when you tested it. So if this one reaches 170kW and holds it for about 20 min, it should get at least at 65% already, then taper off and get to 80% in about half an hour, and that would be decent.
I think the most precise measurement of consumption would be based on the EV charger data (the same way that it was performed on ICE cars): you have a car charged to 100%, you drive some distance, charge it to 100% again and then use kWh that the charger will show you the second time - that will account all loses. But yeah that is not what you actually need when you want to get just the reange
Good comparison. I was also interested in these two. The BYD because it has the largest LFP currently on the market. Also at 800V supposedly charging faster than the old one. The next one is Sealion 7 at 91kWh from what I know. I currently have an Ioniq 5 so was hoping not to give up on the range and charge speed, but would love to switch to LFP if possible. I know the korean cars, had a Niro before I5, so I like the dash, menus, regen padels, V2L, android auto, fast 800V etc. But, yea, the seats are not the best. I'm a bit taller so it is even worse for me to sit so close to the steering wheel and have no seat extension. I got the relax pack on I5 with memory, ventilation, leg support etc. but still not that great seats. So yes, tough choice, I would love an EV9 with 110kWh LFP and BYD seats, charging in about 15min if possible :))
P.S. Another great candidate would be Zeekr 7x with the new short blade LFP at 75kWh 10-80% in 12min. But that one does not have AWD, only on the 100kWh NMC 10-80% in 15 min battery. Still, the 7x comes with great Air suspension, up to 23 cm ground clearance and real offroad capabilities, a proper SUV really, not just crossover pretender. (BYD Tang is worse here, that battery hanging just 15cm from the ground, looks real bad from behind.) Also, 7x has great seats with massage and powered seat extension. I know it does not take 7 people, that's one downside. But I would be really curious when you will be able to test it, I see that we have similar tastes in cars. ;)
@@norgepan The 7x is a bit smaller than EV9 but NOTHING like a model Y. Zeekr is a premium brand, similar to Q6 or Macan, with great quality, options, charge speeds, not tesla crap. Plus, the Zeekr 7x is a proper SUV, probably the only real electric SUV in EU. Check the desert and offroad tests on the Land Rover circuit and you will see. Most large EVs are just crossover pretenders, if you compare them to a RAV4 or even a cheap Duster, most of them are a joke climbing even a small hill. Even the EV9 and Tang, despite the size are almost useless if you take them off asphalt. Especially Tang with that 15cm? ground clearance. Same for EV3, model y, enyak and all the other mainstream EV hatchbacks or crossover pretenders with ground clearance of an MPV.
Very strange. I've got 2024 byd tang. There several ways to disable the annoying warnings, one way from the screen settings and the other way is to close the shutter window infront of tgat camera that is pointed toward your face (there is a phisical flap).
Question about charge speed ? I have an EV6 hatchback now, but would love to get a proper SUV EV. Also really love to have an LFP big battery and have great safety and long life. Still, the EV6 charges 10-80% in 18 mins. The old Tang used to charge at 115kW in about 40min. Could not find the charge curve for new Tang with 170 kW speed. Does it keep 170kW up to 70% at least ? That would mean 50% (about 54kWh) added in around 20 mins, similar to my EV6. Even if it slows down after, it would still be ok. So, can you give me some numbers ? Thank you.
@@Happy_Xiaoxia Thank you. Can you also make an OBD test like Bjorn Nyland did on Atto3 ? Does it have the same behaviour ? Ventilation starting at 40 degrees and rapid gating over 45 degrees, especially if you stay inside and keep the heat on ?
Kris, is it me, or am I missing the noise test (or is it in in the next video)? For me as a Dutchman, the 120 kph test is on the high side, which is about a 100 to 105 average in Holland (and allowed). But nevertheless, these test in duo make a good comparison in simulair conditions. These bigger cars and suv's suffer quite a lot doing higher speeds, so if they achieve 300 km+ in these conditions, i think its safe to say they will do 400+ easily at warner conditions and 100kmh average. Im looking for a follow up on mine polestar 2 dm, and the ev9 is also on my list, (also the polestar 3, bit difficult to compare, I know). So I was interested in the actual noise levels of the ev9. Keep up the good work
@@KrisRifa There is no big difference really. Those 0,5-1 db difference can easily be from tires. I mean the Audi RS in same table has a lot more noise. Does it not ?
Bias = "inclination or prejudice for or against one person or group, especially in a way considered to be unfair" All Chinese cars I have ever tested on this channel, BYD, Nio, Hongqi, Xpeng all bing at bong at you for everything. These is not bias, that is just a fact. Another fact is I don't like cars that bing and bong at you for single thing. Opinion does not equal bias. Please people educate yourself on the meaning of words before commenting and using them. Because when you so confidently misunderstand the meaning of words, you just look dumb. Lastly, this a range test and noise test that is done instrumented. The results are the results, regardless of my opinion on how the cars drive or operate. I mean, common dude. You can't be this thick?
Given the secretive nature of the Chinese Communist Party, I don't prefer Chinese products, and using them feels like putting my life on the line, which is unappealing. As we all know from experience, everyone discards Chinese products without hesitation when the season changes. It seems like using them would make me feel like a trashy person with significantly lower standards. And the situation is becoming psychologically more complex because there might be a second wave of coronavirus in China. Please be especially careful of HMPV.
@@remix-yy1hs There are 3 Kia factories in China, but they are limited to domestic sales in China and exports to Southeast Asia. And I know that the focus is on electric vehicles. They are not exported to Korea, Europe, or North America. However, there is also a possibility that Kia cars made in China could expand into South America. Currently, cars produced at the Kia Sohari plant in Korea are exported to Korea, the United States, and Europe, and the Kia plant in Georgia, USA, exports to Europe.
@@robocop581 I use Apple or Samsung phones, not Chinese ones. They stole technology and made them illegally anyway. I don't know if they pay royalties according to WTO principles. And I think that the considerable number of defective products are a waste of money in the long run.
This test is very unprofessional: 1. The new BYD TANG acceleration from 0~100km only 3.9s and EV9 is 6s,so that means the max power is much smaller that BYD TANG 2. As i remmeber the DC charging for BYD TANG from 10%~80% is 35mins,because the BYD TANG can be reach to 170kW charging power for a long time. 3. Why you don't testing Autopilot system on both vehicles? BYD TANG do have battery preheating that you don't know about it. 4. For the BYD TANG just got very good NAF testing results in Noway. a total 530km got 482km tested range ,the reach rate is 91%
The old BYD Tang 86kWh battery used to have a delay of 3-4 mins to ramp up charging. From what I see this is no longer the case ? Have you also tested a 10-80% and does it really take 45mins ? I mean, the old one had quite a flat curve when you tested it. So if this one reaches 170kW and holds it for about 20 min, it should get at least at 65% already, then taper off and get to 80% in about half an hour, and that would be decent.
I think the station maybe was max out
6:00 my byd tang display all trip information when you end your trip by turning your car off from start button.
I think the most precise measurement of consumption would be based on the EV charger data (the same way that it was performed on ICE cars): you have a car charged to 100%, you drive some distance, charge it to 100% again and then use kWh that the charger will show you the second time - that will account all loses.
But yeah that is not what you actually need when you want to get just the reange
Good comparison. I was also interested in these two. The BYD because it has the largest LFP currently on the market. Also at 800V supposedly charging faster than the old one. The next one is Sealion 7 at 91kWh from what I know. I currently have an Ioniq 5 so was hoping not to give up on the range and charge speed, but would love to switch to LFP if possible. I know the korean cars, had a Niro before I5, so I like the dash, menus, regen padels, V2L, android auto, fast 800V etc. But, yea, the seats are not the best. I'm a bit taller so it is even worse for me to sit so close to the steering wheel and have no seat extension. I got the relax pack on I5 with memory, ventilation, leg support etc. but still not that great seats. So yes, tough choice, I would love an EV9 with 110kWh LFP and BYD seats, charging in about 15min if possible :))
P.S. Another great candidate would be Zeekr 7x with the new short blade LFP at 75kWh 10-80% in 12min. But that one does not have AWD, only on the 100kWh NMC 10-80% in 15 min battery. Still, the 7x comes with great Air suspension, up to 23 cm ground clearance and real offroad capabilities, a proper SUV really, not just crossover pretender. (BYD Tang is worse here, that battery hanging just 15cm from the ground, looks real bad from behind.) Also, 7x has great seats with massage and powered seat extension. I know it does not take 7 people, that's one downside. But I would be really curious when you will be able to test it, I see that we have similar tastes in cars. ;)
@@flavianddThe Zeekr is a lot smaller than the EV 9. It's more like a Tesla model Y
@@norgepan The 7x is a bit smaller than EV9 but NOTHING like a model Y. Zeekr is a premium brand, similar to Q6 or Macan, with great quality, options, charge speeds, not tesla crap. Plus, the Zeekr 7x is a proper SUV, probably the only real electric SUV in EU. Check the desert and offroad tests on the Land Rover circuit and you will see. Most large EVs are just crossover pretenders, if you compare them to a RAV4 or even a cheap Duster, most of them are a joke climbing even a small hill. Even the EV9 and Tang, despite the size are almost useless if you take them off asphalt. Especially Tang with that 15cm? ground clearance. Same for EV3, model y, enyak and all the other mainstream EV hatchbacks or crossover pretenders with ground clearance of an MPV.
Very strange. I've got 2024 byd tang. There several ways to disable the annoying warnings, one way from the screen settings and the other way is to close the shutter window infront of tgat camera that is pointed toward your face (there is a phisical flap).
Question about charge speed ? I have an EV6 hatchback now, but would love to get a proper SUV EV. Also really love to have an LFP big battery and have great safety and long life. Still, the EV6 charges 10-80% in 18 mins. The old Tang used to charge at 115kW in about 40min. Could not find the charge curve for new Tang with 170 kW speed. Does it keep 170kW up to 70% at least ? That would mean 50% (about 54kWh) added in around 20 mins, similar to my EV6. Even if it slows down after, it would still be ok. So, can you give me some numbers ? Thank you.
The new BYD TANG is able to keep very high charging power 160kW at least 20mins that i have tried a few days ago.
@@Happy_Xiaoxia Thank you. Can you also make an OBD test like Bjorn Nyland did on Atto3 ? Does it have the same behaviour ? Ventilation starting at 40 degrees and rapid gating over 45 degrees, especially if you stay inside and keep the heat on ?
I would like to ask whether the dongdong reminder sound can be turned off manually？
Yes, for sure, there is a setting on pad system.
Maybe the station is at his max? So that's why they don't reach his maximums.
He used no preconditioning. Both batteries were cold. He specified that.
Also LFP batteries need to be charged at 100% to properly calibrate.
Kris, is it me, or am I missing the noise test (or is it in in the next video)?
For me as a Dutchman, the 120 kph test is on the high side, which is about a 100 to 105 average in Holland (and allowed). But nevertheless, these test in duo make a good comparison in simulair conditions.
These bigger cars and suv's suffer quite a lot doing higher speeds, so if they achieve 300 km+ in these conditions, i think its safe to say they will do 400+ easily at warner conditions and 100kmh average.
Im looking for a follow up on mine polestar 2 dm, and the ev9 is also on my list, (also the polestar 3, bit difficult to compare, I know). So I was interested in the actual noise levels of the ev9.
Keep up the good work
Noise test results are in the chart at the end of the video :)
@@KrisRifa There is no big difference really. Those 0,5-1 db difference can easily be from tires. I mean the Audi RS in same table has a lot more noise. Does it not ?
Beginning with an anti-China attitude when you start the trip shows your bias. It was downhill after that, rendering this comparison pointless.
Bias = "inclination or prejudice for or against one person or group, especially in a way considered to be unfair"
All Chinese cars I have ever tested on this channel, BYD, Nio, Hongqi, Xpeng all bing at bong at you for everything. These is not bias, that is just a fact. Another fact is I don't like cars that bing and bong at you for single thing. Opinion does not equal bias.
Please people educate yourself on the meaning of words before commenting and using them. Because when you so confidently misunderstand the meaning of words, you just look dumb.
Lastly, this a range test and noise test that is done instrumented. The results are the results, regardless of my opinion on how the cars drive or operate. I mean, common dude. You can't be this thick?
lol he was peeved about the constant binging and bonging that makes the Chinese consumer feel they have high tech. He also rips the EV9.
*Already put this channel on "Do not recommen" list*
@@KrisRifa Why you don't turn off the BYD TANG Autopoilt system? this is for highway auto driving system???
Coming from a Philippines 🇵🇭 dude,I know you were going to hate on the chinese car.....
Yeah right. 😂
They all hating Chinese 😂
I dont see the XPENG G9 in your list?? why?
Initial thoughts are that the Kia is better; you’d probably have to get a favourable price on the BYD to justify buying one.
Great video, thanks
I think the only Chinese car that "acts" like European is the MG. There's barely any bings and bongs.
TANK not Tang should be ;)))
What? How?
Build Your Kia…
Given the secretive nature of the Chinese Communist Party, I don't prefer Chinese products, and using them feels like putting my life on the line, which is unappealing. As we all know from experience, everyone discards Chinese products without hesitation when the season changes. It seems like using them would make me feel like a trashy person with significantly lower standards. And the situation is becoming psychologically more complex because there might be a second wave of coronavirus in China. Please be especially careful of HMPV.
The kia is made in china too 😂😂😂
@@remix-yy1hs There are 3 Kia factories in China, but they are limited to domestic sales in China and exports to Southeast Asia. And I know that the focus is on electric vehicles. They are not exported to Korea, Europe, or North America. However, there is also a possibility that Kia cars made in China could expand into South America. Currently, cars produced at the Kia Sohari plant in Korea are exported to Korea, the United States, and Europe, and the Kia plant in Georgia, USA, exports to Europe.
Like your made in China phone?
@@robocop581 I use Apple or Samsung phones, not Chinese ones. They stole technology and made them illegally anyway. I don't know if they pay royalties according to WTO principles. And I think that the considerable number of defective products are a waste of money in the long run.
This test is very unprofessional:
1. The new BYD TANG acceleration from 0~100km only 3.9s and EV9 is 6s,so that means the max power is much smaller that BYD TANG
2. As i remmeber the DC charging for BYD TANG from 10%~80% is 35mins,because the BYD TANG can be reach to 170kW charging power for a long time.
3. Why you don't testing Autopilot system on both vehicles? BYD TANG do have battery preheating that you don't know about it.
4. For the BYD TANG just got very good NAF testing results in Noway. a total 530km got 482km tested range ,the reach rate is 91%