Hunter and Wagner! Awsome guitarist! Always thought it was the other guys for a long time until about 20 years ago. Always loved this track and wonder why perry never sound like the track and then a friend shared who really played. Could never tire of listening to this great playing!
Awesome KDA《☆》It must be good LOL. Aerosmith is definitely in my top 5 favorite bands. I saw their Toys in the attic tour concert 75 or 76. I don't remember too much about their show but Frank Marino & Mahogany rush opened up for them & left a lasting impression on me as an aspiring young guitarist. Wagner & Hunter layed down some hard stuff to follow there. 😎🎱☮🔊✌👍
Wow! This is mind-blowing. I don't know how you did this but to replicate all these solos is a minor miracle. Thanks and I can't wait to sink my teeth into this. Thank you so much.
Kelly, not just thank you, but you just earned a new patron. Fantastic job playing through this and thank you for sharing your performance and commentary. This song has a special place in my repertoire. Longer story, I tried learning this from ear myself several years ago. Got through most of the first and second solos by Hunter, but had to set it and guitar aside and just returning to it now. You've done a really fine job of pulling out the nuances and laying out for someone who wants to learn it soup to nuts. What inspired me to chase this down is that I had read or heard somewhere that Slash considered this album and Disraeli Gears as two of his main inspirations when he first started. So I took a listen through the album and Train Kept A Rollin' stood out above everything else and really does sound different than anything Perry had played. The slithery licks and high speed runs did indeed sound like they had influenced Slash's playing, so I set about woodshedding this. In the process, I dug into the research and learned about Hunter/Wagner's part on it. And that made a LOT more sense. Here were some old salts with decades of experience and tasteful playing developed over countless sessions. And one can picture a young Slash hearing this and woodshedding it in his high school bedroom, oblivious that he is being influenced not by a young Joe Perry, but rather leapfrogging decades of licks and ideas ahead of his peers standing on the shoulders of giants just from this one seminal track. Most definitely an apocryphal story, but I like to think it's true. Anyway, fantastic job playing and going through the solos. It's just the right pace for someone who is ready to play stuff like this. Thank you again!
Hey Jon, thanks for that. And thanks for the Patreon support as well. Much appreciated. Hunter and Wagner were two names I heard a lot when a was a teenager guitarist in the late seventies early eighties, especially Steve Hunter. Time unfortunately seems to have forgotten about them to some degree. It's a damn shame really. There's a hell of a lot one can learn from these guys and they deserve a higher place in guitar history than they're given credit for. Obviously NOT given credit for these outstanding solos. The opening three minute solo to Lou Reed's Sweet Jane from his live Rock and Roll Animal is also another really outstanding moment from these two great guitarists. I'd advise you to check it out of you're unfamiliar.
That is fantastic, I love those solos in that song. Of course I could play all the rhythm guitar parts when I was a teenager, easy and fun to play. But those solos are off in another universe altogether. Thanks for the lesson!
Always found it odd in the '70s that "Get Your Wings" was the only Aerosmith album with first-rate guitar playing. It wasn't until many years later that it was revealed that Steve Hunter and Dick Wagner were the uncredited soloists that elevated the quality of that record, highlighted by this number. Nice ear, Kelly, deciphering the nuances of Steve Hunter's bends, rolls, and voicings. Bravo!
Xcellant! I am older than you...I got my first guitar before you...I should play like you!😢But I don't! You are amazing! Yard Birds...Stroll On?🤔👏👏👏👏❤😎
1st time seeing you it's great cept for on the one after the train whistle going down the neck the picture cut off couldn't see what you was doing But I'm gonna learn a lot from you thanks for doing what you do
excellent vid brother...and once again, another ive been faking thru...damn, i ADMIRE your ear...and f'n dicipline...your vids are gold for folks SERIOUS bout learning. you know, i had never heard that those were session guys on this track...anyhow, excellent vid, and thanks. AGAIN!
@@KellyDeanAllenGuitar well, you nailed it...and, thanks again. its pretty impressive (to me anyway) the way you work all the details out, and present it. like i said, good stuff
SO CRAZY you posted this ! ive been looking to tackle this song.. i love it.. ive been working on the song 'Amazing' guitar solo. That is the solo i think Perry did his best work on..
Thanks for making another great tutorial! I have learned a lot watching your videos. I especially learned a lot from the one about playing the (relative?)Minor scale all over the neck...it helped me connect the dots.
This is a good one to practice that. Nearly the whole thing uses relative minor. The song is in G major but the solos are pretty much exclusively played in E minor (the relative minor of G Major).
@@KellyDeanAllenGuitar So in general if the key is G and Em is the relative minor key will almost all the notes in Em penatonic usually all sound good? I'm always learning something new from you.
@@brianmenke yes. But.... You have to give special emphasis to the different root note (in this case G). When soloing in E minor one will often, (either consciously or unconsciously) give special attention to all of the "e" notes within the scale. Bending up to them, starting our ending a lick with them etc.... When soloing in E minor as the relative minor of G Major, you have to avoid this and move all that attention to the "g" notes within whatever scale your playing in. Understand? Also, thanks for the patreon support man. Very much appreciated! Haven't been working much this past year because of covid. Everything helps.
@@KellyDeanAllenGuitar Thanks for explaining that. My spidey senses were telling me that something had to be different :-) As far as the Patreon support its well deserved and I wish I could do more. If I do win the lotto some day, I'll hire you as my personal instructor and make it well worth your while. Of course I will have to spend some of it on come back events for Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Journey, Led Zepplin, and of course have Uncle Ted play a concert in my new back yard :-) One can dream...
It's great to stay inspired and keep learning. I've been playing my acoustic a lot lately and recently bought a new electric. Now I'm on a Joe Perry kick. You can't beat those 70's Aerosmith guitar licks!
Great lesson... so many guitar lessons are too slow and too explicit. This is just right. ;) Also, it's almost exactly how I've been playing it, so I'm happy to see you accommodating the bit where Hunter is piss farting around basically the same way I have been. Thank you!
I love the caption editions. If ya still do video lessons I think it's a good idea to try to keep the nut in the picture. All these nutty (pun completely unintended) guitars have different inlay configs. It's just a good reference point to have that nut as a landmark. This is a great lesson for any player. How can't ya feel energized when ya can play this pretty close?
I lost some me respect for Perry and Whitfield. I always thought it was them playing. It’s my favorite song of theirs and it’s a cover that the two famous players don’t even play the solos.
What are you even talking about? We played this song pretty much note for note in my high school garage band in the 70's. No tabs or you tube back then either. It became clear in 20 seconds the positions most of the solos were played then just a bit of listening over and over. While it sounds hard to learn, it really isn't. People would become far better guitar players by staying off you tube and tabs sites while learning. Do it the way the people you admire from this period did. Get a book of scales and a recording of the song you want to play and LISTEN.
Dave Hunter said Joe had a block and it happened to him too a bunch of times. I guess Joe and Brad couldn't come up with anything that really clicked but we benefited. Excellent leads by both of them and, along with Joey Kramer, they made it sound like a train. Btw, it was recorded in the studio and not live. The crowd noise was added to the recording.
00:00 presentation
02:15 train whistle
03:52 1st solo
07:55 main riff
08:44 2nd solo
12:31 bridge
15:02 3rd solo
25:07 main riff Yardbirds-like
26:22 4th solo
30:49 5th solo
38:08 last verse / outro
Hunter and Wagner!
Awsome guitarist!
Always thought it was the other guys for a long time until about 20 years ago.
Always loved this track and wonder why perry never sound like the track and then a friend shared who really played. Could never tire of listening to this great playing!
I love Arrosmith and I'm also a huge Hunter / Wagner fan. This is absolutely great. Bang on.
Cleary remember as a lad in mid 70's the resemblance of Sweet Jane/Train Kept Rolling leads....never made the connection. Great stuff!
Awesome KDA《☆》It must be good LOL. Aerosmith is definitely in my top 5 favorite bands. I saw their Toys in the attic tour concert 75 or 76. I don't remember too much about their show but Frank Marino & Mahogany rush opened up for them & left a lasting impression on me as an aspiring young guitarist. Wagner & Hunter layed down some hard stuff to follow there. 😎🎱☮🔊✌👍
Weren't they the guitar players for Alice Cooper. (Hunter and Wagner).
Wow! This is mind-blowing. I don't know how you did this but to replicate all these solos is a minor miracle. Thanks and I can't wait to sink my teeth into this. Thank you so much.
Thank you very much! My pleasure mate, they're fantastic solos by two fantastic guitar players who often get overlooked.
Great lesson thanx alot to remember
Thank you sir, you did a lot of work on this one…I am still working on it!
I've been looking for a comprehensive lesson on this! Blows my mind that more haven't covered such a cool song. Thanks!
Awesome you nailed it, quite a feat!
Kelly, not just thank you, but you just earned a new patron. Fantastic job playing through this and thank you for sharing your performance and commentary. This song has a special place in my repertoire.
Longer story, I tried learning this from ear myself several years ago. Got through most of the first and second solos by Hunter, but had to set it and guitar aside and just returning to it now. You've done a really fine job of pulling out the nuances and laying out for someone who wants to learn it soup to nuts.
What inspired me to chase this down is that I had read or heard somewhere that Slash considered this album and Disraeli Gears as two of his main inspirations when he first started. So I took a listen through the album and Train Kept A Rollin' stood out above everything else and really does sound different than anything Perry had played. The slithery licks and high speed runs did indeed sound like they had influenced Slash's playing, so I set about woodshedding this.
In the process, I dug into the research and learned about Hunter/Wagner's part on it. And that made a LOT more sense. Here were some old salts with decades of experience and tasteful playing developed over countless sessions. And one can picture a young Slash hearing this and woodshedding it in his high school bedroom, oblivious that he is being influenced not by a young Joe Perry, but rather leapfrogging decades of licks and ideas ahead of his peers standing on the shoulders of giants just from this one seminal track. Most definitely an apocryphal story, but I like to think it's true.
Anyway, fantastic job playing and going through the solos. It's just the right pace for someone who is ready to play stuff like this. Thank you again!
Hey Jon, thanks for that. And thanks for the Patreon support as well. Much appreciated. Hunter and Wagner were two names I heard a lot when a was a teenager guitarist in the late seventies early eighties, especially Steve Hunter. Time unfortunately seems to have forgotten about them to some degree. It's a damn shame really. There's a hell of a lot one can learn from these guys and they deserve a higher place in guitar history than they're given credit for. Obviously NOT given credit for these outstanding solos.
The opening three minute solo to Lou Reed's Sweet Jane from his live Rock and Roll Animal is also another really outstanding moment from these two great guitarists. I'd advise you to check it out of you're unfamiliar.
Ya. This cat has the skills for playing and teaching intelligently. He's a "go to" teacher.
Great and much needed lesson! Just came across this. Your the best! Forgot you had done this one. It's a great GO TO jam with guitar buddies
That is fantastic, I love those solos in that song. Of course I could play all the rhythm guitar parts when I was a teenager, easy and fun to play. But those solos are off in another universe altogether. Thanks for the lesson!
Great job always wanted to know how to play that song loved the album get your wings
Always found it odd in the '70s that "Get Your Wings" was the only Aerosmith album with first-rate guitar playing. It wasn't until many years later that it was revealed that Steve Hunter and Dick Wagner were the uncredited soloists that elevated the quality of that record, highlighted by this number. Nice ear, Kelly, deciphering the nuances of Steve Hunter's bends, rolls, and voicings. Bravo!
I also hear young lust in those solos same pocket I believe good stuff man
Good gracious my friend! Awesome detail. Thanks so much for this.
Thank you for this ! I've been playing this since '77, but never fine tuned as you have. A big "thumbs up" from me !
This t
Lesson and the Sweet Jane tab are 2 of the best lessons on UA-cam. Thank you!
Haha, well that's high praise indeed Charles! Thank you!
@@KellyDeanAllenGuitar Machine Gun was another awesome lesson..
I will have to look those up! They are some of the Hunter/Wagner best in show!
Great to see another awesome vid about hunter and wagoner, not to mention my favorite guitar of yours ..thumbs up sir..
Xcellant! I am older than you...I got my first guitar before you...I should play like you!😢But I don't!
You are amazing!
Yard Birds...Stroll On?🤔👏👏👏👏❤😎
very good lesson/ demostration.
Kelly, you are the man! You’re giving lessons on my two favorite solos of all time! This and intro to Sweet Jane. Happy New Year!
Thank you so much i liked you lesson
Wonderfully made!!! Thank you!!!
Great lesson, thank you
There’s a certain amount of swing in that second solo. Just thought that should be noted. I’m having fun learning this stuff… thanks
I love your guitar.
This is a great song that needs a good tutorial. Thank you. I loved your cover of Sweet Jane from Rock n Roll Animal.
I met dick Wagner at a guitar session with his son and Mitch Rider guitar player they set next to me
Thanks for the H&W heads up.
1st time seeing you it's great cept for on the one after the train whistle going down the neck the picture cut off couldn't see what you was doing
But I'm gonna learn a lot from you thanks for doing what you do
A great song with a very cool solo you may want to consider teaching your followers here is the very underated Ronnie Montroe song Black Train.
Awesome
Thank you! I looked around for a tutorial when you posted the solo but nothing good. Can't wait to learn one of my favorite Aerosmith songs.
excellent vid brother...and once again, another ive been faking thru...damn, i ADMIRE your ear...and f'n dicipline...your vids are gold for folks SERIOUS bout learning. you know, i had never heard that those were session guys on this track...anyhow, excellent vid, and thanks. AGAIN!
This one was a lot of work to pick apart. But I love these two players and wanted to get it right. Or as close as I could.
@@KellyDeanAllenGuitar well, you nailed it...and, thanks again. its pretty impressive (to me anyway) the way you work all the details out, and present it. like i said, good stuff
SO CRAZY you posted this ! ive been looking to tackle this song.. i love it.. ive been working on the song 'Amazing' guitar solo. That is the solo i think Perry did his best work on..
Joe Perry didn't play on this song..
@@DarkSim77 I know. That's why I said Amazing is his best work lol
First time I ever liked a video, without even listening to a note.
Cheers mate!
It was Jack Dougles idea to have Hunter and Wagner step in and it upsets me. Don't tell me Perry and Whitford couldn't have played these notes.
This song made me think Joe Perry was as good as hendrix, or page- as a kid
Thanks for making another great tutorial! I have learned a lot watching your videos. I especially learned a lot from the one about playing the (relative?)Minor scale all over the neck...it helped me connect the dots.
This is a good one to practice that. Nearly the whole thing uses relative minor. The song is in G major but the solos are pretty much exclusively played in E minor (the relative minor of G Major).
@@KellyDeanAllenGuitar So in general if the key is G and Em is the relative minor key will almost all the notes in Em penatonic usually all sound good? I'm always learning something new from you.
@@brianmenke yes. But.... You have to give special emphasis to the different root note (in this case G). When soloing in E minor one will often, (either consciously or unconsciously) give special attention to all of the "e" notes within the scale. Bending up to them, starting our ending a lick with them etc....
When soloing in E minor as the relative minor of G Major, you have to avoid this and move all that attention to the "g" notes within whatever scale your playing in.
Understand?
Also, thanks for the patreon support man. Very much appreciated! Haven't been working much this past year because of covid. Everything helps.
@@KellyDeanAllenGuitar Thanks for explaining that. My spidey senses were telling me that something had to be different :-) As far as the Patreon support its well deserved and I wish I could do more. If I do win the lotto some day, I'll hire you as my personal instructor and make it well worth your while. Of course I will have to spend some of it on come back events for Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Journey, Led Zepplin, and of course have Uncle Ted play a concert in my new back yard :-) One can dream...
Sweet Jane intro on Lou Reed Live.
It's great to stay inspired and keep learning. I've been playing my acoustic a lot lately and recently bought a new electric. Now I'm on a Joe Perry kick. You can't beat those 70's Aerosmith guitar licks!
🔥🔥🔥
Great lesson... so many guitar lessons are too slow and too explicit. This is just right. ;) Also, it's almost exactly how I've been playing it, so I'm happy to see you accommodating the bit where Hunter is piss farting around basically the same way I have been. Thank you!
This song is a literal lick mine!
I love the caption editions.
If ya still do video lessons I think it's a good idea to try to keep the nut in the picture.
All these nutty (pun completely unintended) guitars have different inlay configs. It's just a good reference point to have that nut as a landmark.
This is a great lesson for any player. How can't ya feel energized when ya can play this pretty close?
Watch Aerosmith do Train Kept a Rolling on the Midnight Special, Joe Perry couldn’t come close to what Hunter/Wagner played.
Always thought it was The Johnny Burnett Rock and Roll Trio
This will be a 6 month project lol
You mean to tell me Joe Perry did not record the solos ??? WTSF?? I'm heart broken. I wish I never knew this. I'm bummed. :(
Yep 100% true. I too was a bit disappointed but eventually got over it.
He does it live tho
Ask Lou Reed how good Hunter/Wagner are (were)❤
How do you get this sound ?
Buy an amplifier and get a Electric Guitar 😂
@@jimihansson3685 what pedals and settings
This would be perfect if I had some tablature to follow along. lol
I lost some me respect for Perry and Whitfield. I always thought it was them playing. It’s my favorite song of theirs and it’s a cover that the two famous players don’t even play the solos.
My thoughts to a T
I'm just finding out it wasn't Joe Perry
It's my favorite song of theirs by far it was all downhill from there
So what! It is what it is, both players are still God tier!
What are you even talking about? We played this song pretty much note for note in my high school garage band in the 70's. No tabs or you tube back then either. It became clear in 20 seconds the positions most of the solos were played then just a bit of listening over and over. While it sounds hard to learn, it really isn't. People would become far better guitar players by staying off you tube and tabs sites while learning. Do it the way the people you admire from this period did. Get a book of scales and a recording of the song you want to play and LISTEN.
Well Perry had to play it live. He just isn't steady enough to lay it on the album.
Joe Perry must not be that good to play for them to hire other guitar players!
Dave Hunter said Joe had a block and it happened to him too a bunch of times. I guess Joe and Brad couldn't come up with anything that really clicked but we benefited. Excellent leads by both of them and, along with Joey Kramer, they made it sound like a train. Btw, it was recorded in the studio and not live. The crowd noise was added to the recording.
Exeptional
You talk too much
Respect