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Professional Engineer (P.Eng) Application Experience | What I wish I knew before applying
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2021
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In this video I'll be talking about my experience with trying to get my P.Eng designation. There are things I wish I new before I applied, and why it wasn't a good experience for me overall. Hopefully this will help prevent people from making the same mistakes as I did.
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It is really good to know when trying to apply for PE licence the work what we have been doing should directly relate with our specialization at school. At least that makes it easer to get the licence i guess. Surprisingly, I haven't had a clue about that for sure. Thank very much for sharing your experience.
Thanks!
Thank you for taking the time to share your story. I hadn't thought about the responsibility implications of holding or not a P. Eng. license, that is something to think about at least.
I'm a volunteer P.Eng. Mentor in western Canada and this also happens in other provinces. People I know for example originally graduated in say EE, and end up working in more of a Mechanical, or Civil Engineering role and because of that mismatch are required to take several courses through EGBC or APEGA to meet the educational requirements to obtain their P.Eng. Firstly good for you for posting this so others can learn as you're not the only one for sure. It doesn't seem fair but yes your co-workers who do the same work as you won't have the same issues because their original education was in Mechanical for Product Engineering even though after 4+ years of working we forget everything we learned in school. It would have been caught earlier if you had registered as an EIT right after University, and then reported your work experience gradually year by year as then PEO should have flagged that earlier in your career. I personally reported my EIT education year by year until I reached the min 4 year mark before applying for my P.Eng. then got it with no interview required because of that setup. There is also the general route such as switching to more of a Project Management or any General role as I've seen many Engineers who originally obtained their education in Electrical, Mechanical, Civil, Environmental, etc. obtain their P.Eng. doing the same PM role too. Rather than a more technical Product Engineering role because then it really does need to be Mechanical. Finally just communicate with PEO, and work with them as again it may be a matter of courses to take as I do know friends who ran into the same mismatch of education to work experience issue and eventually got through it by doing the required courses the associate required them to do. As a final resort I suppose you could do a career change, and work in Chemical Engineering. Maybe pickup a Petro Engineering position possibly in Alberta I mean they make a lot anyways, and eventually get your P.Eng that way.
Thanks for your detailed information!
If I am registered as an EIT and apply for P.Eng with 4 years+ work experience, is there going to be another evaluation for the education for PEng application processing or they are going to rely on the evaluation that was done for my EIT application?
@@abdullahalmahmud8018 I can't speak for your provincial engineering association, however in general no they shouldn't. They should have already reviewed your education when you first registered as an EIT so that be fine. It's your work experience while you're an EIT that matters after that and how you report it.
Hi thank you for information, I have same confusion. I have studied mechanical engineer all process done. I have been working in portable loading ramp manufacturing company as an EIT, my role is like APPLICATION ENGINEER where I manage product design and engineering mainly involves steel structures, moving parts like legs and motors sometime. my title is mechnical/structural EIT. is my experience irrelevant to what I studied?
@@allent5896 since you're already registered as an EIT with your provincial engineering association, it's best to go through the P.Eng. process with them including your inquiries. For example if your direct supervisor is a P.Eng Mechanical Engineer too and you demonstrate you meet the engineering modules for work experience towards your engineering license then you should be fine.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with us even though it was maybe kind of frustrating to talk about it , Actually , I salute you for your courage , you were determined to achieve your goal and that 's what matters the most regardless the outcome....I wish you a brilliant career in the future. Thank you so much for the video.
Thanks! Thanks for taking the time to watch =)
Thank you so much for your sharing. I am currently a MEng student in NB and have no idea about P.Eng at all. So sorry for your story. You are a brave and smart girl. I believe that you still can get a good job without P.Eng.
Thank you! ❤️
Really sorry you didn't get your P.Eng after all that work. From your story, it seems that there was definitely some prejudice/bias against you. Appreciate you sharing your story and the process you experienced.
Thanks!
Everything is someone else's fault. Never own up to your own decisions
What prejudice/bias?
Thank you for sharing your story. If you try for it again in the future I wish you the best of luck. I learned a bit about the application process from your story and I thank you for sharing your experience so that others can learn.
Thanks!
PEng always seemed a bit worthless in school but thanks for sharing your experience. Will happily avoid taking it especially since like you said, outside some fields its useless. Your much better off studying for actual job interviews that can get you a payraise or something. Nice video!
Thanks! I agree too!
May I ask, I one person goes to college(not university) to study engineer, can he/her get the EIT after graduation?
@@bryanz5904 Yes.
@@vhbanday Thanks a lot:)
Your Channel is great and I like it a lot.I am a professional teacher and tutor in Professional Engineer Exam in Canada and USA and can give an excellent guide.
Hello Ma'am,
Thank you for sharing your experience with us on open platform. I salute you for that, not everyone is upfront and open to talk about it. Your video helped me, as I was walking into the same a booby trap as you did. Basically, I'm Mechanical Engineer by education but I've worn multiple hats in my 13 years of experience from Mechanical Engineering experience to currently working in Pharma industry as process engineer. It would be hard for me to explain P.Eng my experience in Canada which is Bioprocess engineer which is nowhere near to my education degree. For my career choice I don't see value addition to hold a P.Eng title even though it is mandatory requirement to gain 1 step further in my career , as I'm never going to achieve with such complicated and conservative approach from P.Eng.
Thanks once again sharing your experience. It will be guiding tool if I intend to opt the option for P.Eng
you only need to talk about two projects. try to relate the two projects to mech eng as must as possible
This is very difficult to answer textbook question after doing job.
I got my CEng (UK), EUR ING (Engineers Europe) and P.Eng (Malaysia) after working for more than 12 years. haha
Yeah I went in for PEO license interview... twice within 2 months. The first time... I didn't remember the details, not technical at all. One guy was happy and the other wasn't. Then 2 months later, another round of interview... this time it was a lot more technical - difference between adsorption and absorption (remember that from 2nd year process engineering), how to size a stripper (showed them briefly how I would approach it and the equations), show them the raolut's law and the difference with henry's law...
Wow, I would not remember those at all since it’s been 10 years since I touched that stuff
thanks for sharing, I am about to prepare my engineering experience record and I'll keep that in mind.
Good luck!
I am doing so, I will have to prepare myself for exams in December. After that I will go through experience examination. Let's see, for my work it is not such important, It is just something a personal achievement. Thanks for share your experience.
Definitely doesn’t hurt to get it! Thanks for watching! Good luck!
Thanks for sharing! It sounded like a horrible experience and your interviewers were extremely unprofessional to treat you that way. Most working engineers I know couldn't answer any textbook questions if you asked them today. Hope that you try again in the future and get a better review committee.
Thanks!!
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Thank you very much for sharing your experience.
Thank you!
Thank you for sharing your experience.
You’re welcome!
If ever you want to go into private engineering services for yourself, having the PE certification is a plus. However, you can always hire one.
I just wanted to let you know that I feel you regarding your interview. got a similar experience, one of the reviewers was pretty rude. The questions are mostly definition questions, and one of the reviewers even said that she does not believe that I did the work when I showed her my working example. I was so frustrated and complained to the PEO. I have to take the technical exams, will work hard and get them done and hope to get the P.ENG title soon. This is so frustrating that they made it so hard for internationally trained professionals.
Wow that is so rude! I don’t understand why they have to act like this. They must be miserable working there. Good luck on the exam and hope you get the title soon!
Thank u very much
I am sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience. Shame on those who interviewed you; there is no excuse for being rude and condescending to an applicant. Actually, it even violates one of their ethics principles - the one about a professional engineer treating others with courtesy and good faith. Being condescending and making you feel awful does not sound like courtesy; these people should be setting a better example of professional engineering conduct. I hope this negative experience does not prevent you from going back and getting the required experience, and giving it another shot. Don't give up, you got this!
Thank you!!
I will make a video and clip your video and explain the issue with your understanding of an engineer
It is sad to hear about this unprofessional behaviour from professional engineering associations, especially when I keep hearing about a shortage of engineers in Canada. Maybe it's time to reexamine their self regulating status. Sorry to hear about your experience.
I started in engineering but later switched to geoscience. The main takeaway I got from Professional Engineering Societies in first year introduction courses is they are kind of vindictive gatekeepers and that really turned me off to the profession. There is a lot of fluidity in the real workforce in what people do and what you learn in school isn't always what ends up being what you can get for work. As a geoscientist end up under the same society unfortunately and there is even less value to membership. For us it is mostly a scam as they offer no educational opportunities or discipline specific support. So it's basically for a title that most people don't really care about anyway and a discount on car insurance I can get anyway working in my industry. The only real reason to have it is to start a business or sign off on documents. By the way, I work with engineers all the time in my field and having the title maybe is actually worse in terms of competence levels. The system is not at all there to support people but to upsell services and try to pretend it's black and white when it is gray unless you are working at premium corporate positions in very traditional fields.
Didn’t know geoscience is also under the same regulator!
Hi Melon I also went through exact same situation like you did. I am from Manufacturing trade but was working as operations manager in a distribution company where i designed and developed lots of product handling machines and technical work related to warehousing etc. I was also denied the license and was told to show one year of Manufacturing experience. So its seems like you need to be in the same field of work what you studied. Yes the interviewers were very very rude and abusive. I did complaint to higher authorities, but did not work. I also had to appear for technical exams prior to the ER submission. I am working on my license since 2011. I gave interview twice. Ist was academic and second was after ER submission. Now i am resubmitting my ER with one year of Manufacturing since i left the previous organization and joined Manufacturing industry. Lets see what happens next.
Good luck! I love how you didn’t give up and still kept going!
Thank you very much for sharing your experience. I believe I might be in somewhat similar situation. I had a bachelor's degree in Civil Engineering and then a Master's degree in Civil Engineering from the U.S. I got my EIT long time ago (maybe 2017). I have international experience and my recent experience in Canada is Project Management in an Industrial/Mechanical company. Although I did similar tasks and processes but not in the same industry as my education (Civil). I am somewhat hesitant to apply for P.Eng. I don't want it for an engineering work, but I mostly want it for future Project Management and managerial work of Engineering which ask for P.Eng although I have my PMP.
I will apply in a few weeks as I need to fill the Engineering Record form which is a bit difficult to finish soon. I will mention a project or two of the Mechanical work which I hope gets accepted. Any other tips on that?
Good luck! I don’t have any other advice, just the two projects and try your best to make sure it relates back to your degree! I heard they got more stricter now because they were handing out PEng very easily in the past. But they could also change their process again. Good luck!
Hey did you get the P.Eng? I got the EIT in 2015 and now I am thinking about the PEng but not sure...
Did you get your P.Eng title? And what are the odds of getting a P.Eng title if your experience comes under a manager who does not have a P.Eng license, like in your case? Much appreciate for taking the time to answer (anyone).
Hi! I didn’t end up getting the P.Eng because I ended up switching careers. The requirement is that you need to be working under a P.Eng manager for at least 12 months. If you don’t have one, ask someone who is a P.Eng that has supervised your work on a project or you worked with and tell him/her to sign off on your application (that’s what most people do).
@@MelonSlicers I think if u have masters in Canada then will be considered as your 12-month experience.
@@IM-Imran007 thanks! I didn't know this!
@@MelonSlicers may be I m wrong. But I got the info that out of 4 years of experience if u have 3 years outside the Canada and u must complete 1 year in CA but if u have masters in CA then this 1 year is exempted.
@@IM-Imran007 I think I remember seeing that somewhere too! But I don’t have a masters so it just flew over my head 😂
When I took my PE license here in California, we were not required to have an interview. Everything is written in the application form. Where did you applied for this PE license?
wow! so lucky! I've applied for mine in Toronto, they require an interview only if they're not sure.
It would seem to me that you found this job at a nuclear power plant on account of difficulty in getting a chemical engineering job. What can you tell us about your experience in trying to get a job in chemical engineering after you graduated? It raises the important question of what a P. Eng applicant is supposed to do if he/she finds himself/herself in this type of dilemma - and for that matter, how to prevent such a dilemma from happening in the first place.
I actually worked as a manufacturing and product engineer. Most of my colleagues did mechanical or materials engineering. It was very difficult trying to land a chemical engineering job, and I was never able to. I’m not exactly sure why, but I’ve been told they usually only hire from students with relevant co-op experience which I missed out on. I don’t think there’s anything an applicant for peng can do in this situation, I just accepted that I will never get my peng designation while my coworkers doing the same job as me can.
@@MelonSlicers I assume you tried to get some work term co-ops in chemical engineering to take place during the summer vacation periods while you were a university undergraduate. Am I correct?
@@robertchisholm5133 hmmm I did but I didn’t have much luck. My university didn’t have a good coop program and it wasn’t until my final year that I looked for a coop (I’ve been told it is harder to find coops until your final year). I wish I tried harder earlier in uni to get coops, and there were some places that accepted first year students , but I found out too late. A school with a good coop program makes a big difference.
@@MelonSlicers The difficulties that you describe concerning getting work term co-ops seem to represent a key problem area in your case. An incredibly stupid dilemma for you to have to deal with - and in my view, it is imperative that ways be found to prevent any occurrences of this sort of thing from getting others into trouble, as well as finding the solution to your own particular problem. I was told about your own problem in the first place by someone in Ottawa connected with PEO and also OSPE. OSPE - the Ontario Society of Professional Engineers - is a body which advocates for the professional interests of engineers in Ontario (and not just P. Eng's in Ontario) - and as such, its function is quite separate from PEO which, as you know, is the licensing body. Personally I can't promise anything right now. But if your problem is to be solved, then it is necessary to find a way round the problem of grossly bloated and inefficient job markets preventing P. Eng. applicants from making progress. Grossly bloated and inefficient job markets are causing trouble for a lot of people - whether they are licensed P. Eng.'s or not. In this discussion, we have exposed a serious problem area which P.E.O. do not seem to have considered at all in your case. All I can say right now is that I'll inform a few people about it, and we'll take it from there.
@@robertchisholm5133 wow thank you. If your able to help then this would be great. But I also heard a lot of chem Eng jobs are just not available anymore as not a lot of new chemical plants are being built and most of them have moved to the states. Even my classmates who went to work as a chemical engineer in Hong Kong is having the same issue, most of them left and took courses to pursue environmental engineering
Thank you for sharing your experience. After your interview did they mention what the next steps would be if you wanted to still get your P.Eng? Do you have the option to re-apply? Will you have to pass the panel interview if you apply again?
After I was the done interview, they sent me a letter detailing what they want me to elaborate more on (my current work but what specifically they are looking for). They gave me 6 months to re-apply again. They didn’t mention another panel interview, just told me to write a written submission on the things they wanted. However since the work I was doing doesn’t involve what they were looking for I didn’t re-apply again. Hope this helps!
Hi, very helpful video. I am a structural engineer from China with 2 years' work experience, and plan to get the post-secondary education (MAsc) in Canada from 2024 to 2026. I have two questions, 1: Can I get my EIT in BC (where my school locates, chances are I am going to start my career after graduation), and transfer the qualification other provinces like Alberta? 2: Can my two years of overseas work experience be counted in the 48 months when I apply for the PEng?
Looking forward to your reply, thanks😃
Hello! Yes you can get your EIT in BC while you are still in school. Yes, you can transfer the qualification to other provinces. They may ask you for documents or taking additional steps to meet the provinces requirement. No, chances are you cannot transfer your overseas work experience, it must be in Canada. However, they might make exemptions, you have to contact the office and make your case. Thought, I haven’t seen anyone been able to do it successfully. Hope this helps!
Just dealt with APEGA on this, apparently i didn't have enough "project management experience" i work with tons of people who have never done an ounce of project management in their 20+ year career. These associations are just asking every new applicant to lie. How is anyone after 4 years of work going to be exposed to environmental, regulatory, project management and design work. Should we be applying for the P.eng when we are 50 years old? What if you design compressor stations everyday for your entire life? or just run stress calculations? These organizations are so far off center.
I have 2 well experienced P.eng's that vouched for me also...
That sucks, I heard they made it harder for people to get the designation because it was too easy in the past and they didn’t want everyone to just get it
@@MelonSlicers I think they made it harder due to bureaucracy. I will eventually get it, it's just frustrating that your career progress hinges on something that doesn't actually improve you.
@@oshkoshbegone good luck!
I'm getting secondhand trauma from your experience. 😭
hey there, as a master's student without any experience can I sit in the exam and then complete my work experience ?
Yes you can, there’s no order to write it and there is no expiration date for the exam. You just need to pass it once and it’s good forever (it’s what the peo office told me when I asked them)
I guess they tried to know if you have such technical knowledge because your experience seemed not relevant. No worries. I wish you luck and hope you do the best
Thank you :)
Did you eventually get it? I am in the same boat, electrical background now in mechanical field. Should I even try?
No I didn’t =( if you can spin it around and somehow say what you’re doing is electrical definitely do it!
Hey madam if a person's experience is accepted and he called for an interview but currently not working then did they ask you that you should have one job to get the p.eng plz reply
This is was similar experience that I shared. The ERC guys were asking me all those textbook questions which have no use in real life experience. Now I have to write exams and spend money like rain drops….!!!! It is too expensive
Sad, I don’t even know if it is worth getting it if you have to spend so much money on it
You are the best❤
I think some people just need to feel that they are actually working.
I'm glad I bumped into your video. I am in a very similar position but havent applied for my PEng yet with APEGA due to some doubts and questions in my mind. I have a B.Eng in Automotive Engg (from oversees. Its basically Mech engg with some automotive courses in the final year) and a M.Eng in Mechanical Engg (done in Canada). I want to apply for my Mech Engg P.Eng. I currently work in Technical Sales for an expansion joint manufacturer. I have past experience in teaching Automotive & Mecahnical engg courses at a Polytechnic (oversees) and in Engg. Procurement. I am really confused as to how APEGA will view my credentials and work experience as a lot of it does not align. Would they look at my masters and give it preference or my bachelors degree? Do you have any idea on this? I called them up but didnt get a satisfactory reply from the call center representative .
Hey sorry I’m not too familiar with APEGA. I have been told by my friends in Ontario they may consider masters, but not sure in Alberta. Weird how they didn’t get back to you, I believe I sent emails and they responded quickly
I am so sad to hear that, are you able to take a master/ anothor online degree( should able to waive many credit).
For me I have a UK bachelor degree in Fire Engineering. It seems I am not able applying any disciplines of EIT, I have few years work experience in Elec. and Mech. fleid.
I need some advice that should I give up the path to be a PEng in Canada, cheers .
I think every case is different but I have heard of people who are able to obtain it if they have high marks in university or id they write the technical exam. That may be a path that is worth exploring, but you can ask someone who works at p.Eng if there can be any exception done for you.
Sorry about your experience. The process seems very similar to the US to get the PE. It looks like you needed help in tailoring your experience properly, but the interview sounded terrible. Hope your new career goes better. You should still be able to reapply for licensure since you passed the exam. Was the exam 8 hours? Did you take the Mechanical, Electrical or Chemical depth?
Thank you! I am able to reply after 6 months but i just didn’t have any chemical engineering work experience (which is my background) . Since I did school in Canada I didn’t have to do the technical exam, only the ethics exam that was 2 hours long.
Thanks for sharing. I got rejected the first time around as my application did not meet all the requirements mandated.
Did you end up getting it?
@@MelonSlicers I did with APEGA (Alberta). Like you described in your video, as a civil engineer, I am sort of obligated to get it.
But its also nowhere near the struggle you went through. I had to revise 4 of competencies (out of 24). If you need help in getting it, let me know as I have tons of experience now...
@@summer6669 wow! Thanks! Maybe in the future if I decide to go back to engineering. I changed careers and is in the data field, doubt I can get it now. Thanks for sharing your side as well!
@@summer6669 please I would like to get in touch. I'm working on my APEGA application and I need some guidance pls.
Hello thank you for sharing your experience, I'm from the Philippines, I am planning to apply for P Eng. in Ontario since I am a licensed Electrical Engineer here in my home country. I would like to ask if they are considering an evaluation for a masters degree graduate? Thanks
Hello, Is the masters from a Canadian University? If yes, you will have to ask them if they can make an exemption for you. Sometimes they will depending on your grades. If your grades are good they may consider it without having you write the technical exam. Each person/case is different. Hope that helps.
I'm anticipating a rejection. I pretty much have an unfortunate history of doing alot of work, but can't use much of it due to no P.Eng supervisor / reference I can't use due to death/ or falling out
yeah, this whole thing is kinda dumb LOL
Well surprisingly... I passed all the interviews. And now I just need ppe exam
Did u ever think of reapplying??
. U may have got bad luck with the interviewers
I know it's a hassle
My background didn't fully.match.. kinda like fire engineering vs building envelope
Hi, do you have experience with the National Professional Practice Exam?
Hey sorry I do not
@@MelonSlicers Thank you!
Hi, thanks a lot for your sharing. I am an electrical engineer for nuclear power plants, mainly in construction design and electrical distribution system design. But I didn't have Canadian work experience yet, although I already have over 19 years of Nuclear Power Plants designing experience in China.
May I get the EIT first and then pick up the next step to prepare the P.Eng?
Right now I have passed the very first step of the assessment EIT of Saskatchewan, the following step is the COMPETENCY ASSESSMENT, If I get the EIT of Saskatchewan do you think that would be helpful to transfer EIT to Ontario?
Looking forward your reply:)
Hello! On the website it states that "there is no mobility agreement for Engineers-In-Training or Engineering Interns (EIT), and EITs cannot transfer their EIT membership between Canadian engineering regulators. Only individuals who are a P.Eng. licence holder with another Canadian regulator can submit a P.Eng. Transfer Application" (www.peo.on.ca/licence-applications/peng-transfer-another-province#:~:text=Please%20note%2C%20there%20is%20no,regulator%20can%20submit%20a%20P.)
So it looks like if you want to transfer your license, it is probably easier if you already have a designation in another province and then transferring it, rather than start all over if you were an EIT transferring.
@@MelonSlicers Thanks a lot, have you ever heard there could be some ways to transfer my Chinese Work experience to Canada, especially to Ontario? Which could make me come to an EIT here first at least?
@@bryanz5904 I think that is hard, I think at least one year have to be EIT in Ontario, and the rest of the 3 years have to be in Ontario. You may be able to get an exemption, but they treat all cases differently. This is where you will have to contact the PEO office directly and tell him your case and ask for an exemption. Seeing how people have gotten exemption from not taking the exam, I dont see why you can't argue your case for this one. Good luck!
@@MelonSlicers Thanks again! So nice of you. Actually, I am just finished my first step of the EIT assessment in Saskatchewan. They gave me a chance to write a working experience report, "APEGS staff have reviewed your file. You have been assigned Confirmatory Exams with the option to submit work experience to fulfill the requirement." they said. The experience assessed by the Experience Review Committee (ERC), through online Competency-Based Assessment (CBA). Have you ever heard that before?
May I ask your LinkedIn BTW
@@bryanz5904 I have not, i think it is very different in Ontario, you didn't try to see if you can get an exemption from the exam? Not sure about saskatchewan, but I have heard of people being exempted if they have good grades. You can connect with me on one of my instagram accounts and I can link you there!
Hi, where can we prepare for the competency assessment system exam?
There are several places that offer it. I’m not sure if there is a specific place that is recommended. If you can get your hands on past exams that’s really all you need to prepare
thanks, but can you please share where we can find the old resources?
thank you for sharing first. Engineers ae upset about how their job is not taken seriously. Firms are intentionality hiring engineers in jobs not related to their majors to take advantage of them. Professional regulation bodies are totaly against these unethical behavior. It is clearly stated when you prepare to the practice exam that you are not allowed to wok outside the scope of your training (degree). If you are for instance a mechanical engineer and you worked as a structural engineer that might pass; but working as a geotechnical engineer wont be okey. Engineers know already their fields and the authorized overlaps. Outside that, the code of ethics is clear wherever you go. In you re case, you might enroll into a master of electrical/mechanical/product engineering to upgrade your skills and justify the change of practice scope
Do they take masters into consideration? I thought they only consider bachelor
I think they asked you those type of questions because of your background. But still that is really weird.
PEO is a bit of a dated organization, but it's primarily aimed at consulting engineering firms, and it's about highly technical practical experience, as the outcome is meant to be a stamp so that the buck stops with you, especially for mechanical, electrical, structural and civil engineering. Every job is different, and the kind of experience they respect is hypertechnical. Wanting a P.Eng is saying that you want to design things (to make tons of money) and be held accountable to your design. Sorry to hear about your bad experience, must have been scary.
Thanks for sharing! Feels like my previous job was not very technical but a lot of my coworkers got their p.Eng using that work experience. Although it probably didn’t add much value, no raise or more responsibilities
Thank you very much for sharing your story. I was given two months only to prepare my engineering experience and if not I will have to take 4 confirmatory examinations. I am even confuse with the engineering experience form in the PEO website as it is not clear , it just so many requirements in each category to fit in a statement. Do you have a video on how you made your engineering experience form? Also, I worked for only one company and similar to your situation, my job is pretty much the same, should I make only one engineering experience ? Appreciate your reply. Thanks.
Hello, thanks for watching!. Two months is such a short timeline, I remember given an unlimited amount of time to prepare. I don't have a video on it yet. I made the mistake of trying to go over all the tasks/work I did at my job high level. I found out later that they actually just want you to talk about two projects you did in details (from the same company is ok too). I would just think of two projects I did that is most closely related to engineering principles and write about those. I don't know why they don't tell you that on the website. I hope this helps.
@@MelonSlicers This is a wonderful tip, I didn't know we were supposed to talk about projects on the resume. But beautiful this news will open my eyes and I will change my resume totally so that I can achieve this goal.
@@amazonas4321 good luck!
@@MelonSlicers Hello again, you said they just want to hear about 2 of your projects. Does that mean I should focus on prepare not too much? But deeply.
@@bryanz5904 yes, just two projects in detail when I did it. Not sure if things have changed, but my coworkers who went through this proess also only prepared two projects to talk about.
The issue crucial with PEO is the need to match work experience with educational background. Therefore, it is important to make sure the jobs you take on not only qualifies as engineering experience but also be in the field that you had studied. Since you could not find this requirement clearly stated on the PEO website, I consider the organization to be deliberately evasive. The motivation for this unethical behaviour is greed, IMO. If you were a fee paying EIT, PEO should have advised you of the matching requirement. Better still, undergraduates of engineering programs should be informed of this early in their education. What a waste of time and money to learn of this at the last step of the whole process. 🤬
100% agree! I did sign up for EIT and I did pay my annual dues, but they never followed up on my work document when I submitted it. Not sure why I paid $100/year to renew EIT when they didn't do anything. I guess I just added EIT to the end of my name to let employers know I am registered, but other than that it was completely uselss. Also paid $400 to write the ethics exam. Felt scammed for sure
Thank you so much for your video sharing your experience. I am sorry you had to go through that trying experience and i totally understand how strenuous it can be. I have an undergraduate degree in Mechanical Engineering pursued back home in India and two master's degrees ( one in Mechanical Engineering and the other in Biomedical Engineering fields respectively) both graduated with in USA. I wish to do my P.Eng in the field of Biomedical Engineering. May I know if I am allowed to do so here in Canada? Or do I have to stick with Mechanical Engineering (which I don’t want to!) just because I did my bachelor's degree in it? Could you please help me understand this conundrum? Thank you so much for your help and information again. Good luck with your everything 👍🏾👍🏾🤞🏾🍀
Hi, thanks for the wishes and hearing my story! If you have an undergraduate degree back home and a masters that is NOT in Canada, you may need to write a technical exam. This exam is pretty much a summary of all the engineering principles you've learned in university. However, you can try to see if you can get this waived by talking to the P.Eng office. This will vary depending on each individual. They will verify if your education elsewhere is similar to Canadian education. You can pursue P.Eng in both mechanical or biomedical as you have an educational background in both the fields.
I also want to let you know, I have been told that if your grades are good, they can waive the technical exam (if you did masters in Canada). For other country, I am not sure, but can definitely try to ask them if it is possible for you as well.
Thank you so much for your meticulous information.. This should help me get clarified with all my concerns.. I know it’s not a big deal to get a PEng. but I am really trying to not let any stone unturned.. Going through my mid-life crisis I guess! Well thank you so much for taking time out of your schedule and day to just help us understand all these intricacies involved in getting this title attached to our bloody names! God bless you with loads of health , happiness opportunities to grow and succeed and wealth to reward all your efforts.. Prenez soin de vous s’il vous plaît 🙏🏾
@@srikanthneelamraju8338 no problem! Happy to help! Sorry about your mid-life crisis. Hope things get better! I had a crises a few years back about my career. Things will fall into place eventually :)
@@MelonSlicers Thank you so much for your kind words. God bless!😊👍🏾🙏🏾
Hi Same experience as you they give me 8 exams technical exams. Never told me why did not they add my engineering experience at all Useless organization want to make money only their approach is not practical at all
8 technical exams!?!? Wow they really like wasting peoples time eh. Sorry you had to do that. Sheesh unbelievable organization
The moment I heard "Product Engineering" in a Nuclear industry... I knew that your application would not yield results. If you work in your field you'll be able to answer those questions or if you passed FE or PE from NCEES. They asked you textbook questions because you made it apparent that you are not practicing your degree. Now... you do not practice your degree and you could not answer textbook questions, the panel will see that as incompetence in your field. Be glad you met a strict evaluator, that means when the time you get your P. Eng. It will be well deserved and well-matched. The others who got their PEng easily, either practiced their degree, lied or they got lazy ass evaluator. Well if the latter is true then PEng is probably worthless.
Thanks for your feedback. I switched careers and is in tech making more than 2x my coworkers and friends with a P.Eng. Not getting my p.Eng was indeed a blessing in disguise :)
What is the difference between PEng. And MEng.?
MEng is a Masters in Engineering whereas PEng is the professional designation given to you based on your work experience and education
@@MelonSlicers can MEng. Candidate apply for PEng.? And whose valuation is more? Means in terms of finding job in chemical sector
@@jayprajapati1347 If you only have an MEng and not a BEng, you will have to ask the office if they can make an exception for you. Sometimes they will be ok with it if your grades are good. Each case is different. In chemical sector, you don't need a masters, a bachelor is fine. Depending where you work, such as a nuclear plant, a PEng may be more valuable. But those companies will guide you towards getting your PEng, so you won't be not considered for a role if you don't have it right away. At least that is what I know from my classmates who are workin gas a chemical engineer.
@@MelonSlicers can you share your linkedin I'd as I wanted more guidance from you. Help is needed for my future planing. I wanted to do my master in chemical engineering.
@@jayprajapati1347 I'm not sure how helpful I am, but if you want, message me on instagram and ill give you my linkedin
Did you try EIT before?
I did, it was a waste of $$, they didn't tell me anything
@@MelonSlicers i can't understand that, i am so sorry! What you mean ? Do you have the title EIT ? How did you get it just in case?
@@amazonas4321 I paid for two years of EIT membership, you just have to pay for the fee to get it. But it doesn't help at all. At least not for me. there was no guidance on anything and it felt like it was just a waste of money.
@@MelonSlicers Did you study in Canada or USA or are you an international student? In my case I am an international student so everything I have to do to get EIT is pay? I am confused 😕. In fact I need to get to know how can I get my EIT ! In my understanding your next step should be take the technical exams right?
Can we talk about that ?
Which board you applied for ?!
What did you mean?
@@MelonSlicers which state in US ?!
@@moeadel1812 Oh, this is in Canada, I'm from Toronto
Great video
Thanks!
@Melon Slicers Have you got a sample experience report you can share please?
@@emphasisengineering my report was wrong, don’t think it would be much helpful. I just summarized eveything I did at work. But what they wanted was actually two projects that goes into details. I didn’t do that, but it would’ve been helpful if they told me before hand to do that.
@Melon Slicers No worries. So did you prepare another application?
@@emphasisengineering nah there was no way that I could, my work doesn’t have anything related to chemical engineering
Even for civil engineering, the ultimate liability for your stamp on a drawing will be taken by the consulting firm that you work for.
What do you mean? I’m not sure I understand
@@MelonSlicers If I stamped a drawing and the bridge falls down, there could be repercussions for me, but the company I work for would get sued, not me.
@@serpentvert oh didn’t know that, thanks for sharing
@@MelonSlicers No problem! It makes sense to me because as an individual there is no chance I have the means to take on that much financial liability.
What is you salery under peng?
Hey, I didnt get my peng. However, my co-workers that did, did not see any salary increase or changes. It is really just the title. Having a peng doesnt necessarily mean you will get a better job or a higher paying job.
@@MelonSlicers what salery can you expect if you have a forgein degree and immigrate to Canada?
@@bukhari5553 in engineering you can start at 60k CAD and can go up to 105K CAD with experience
But to get to 105K CAD, you have to be working for quite a few years (10+)
Also, you don't need a p.eng to get that salary
Do you think it was a bias based on gender/ethnicity?
That's a good question, I did not think about. All three judges were white middle aged men. It's hard to tell because other than myself, I don't know anyone else who had to go to an in person interview. My friends of colour were able to get theirs by submitting it online.
@@MelonSlicers but you are also a lady of color... Perhaps see if there is any appeals process.
@@notyourmomyousnowflake3533 Thanks! I ended up changing careers so getting the P.Eng wouldn't help me at all anymore
@@MelonSlicers if you don't mind revealing, what's the new career?
@@notyourmomyousnowflake3533 I'm working as a data analyst now and like it a lot better =)
They just wanna make money nothing else.
😂😂😂
Actually she is not Chemical Engineer I think so. Even she does know what is she talking about. Stop making this type video. Don't make confuse people. Mechanical and Chemical Engineering. Chemical Engineer works in process design and Mechanical Engineer design is fabrication design .
This was my take and experience with trying to get a p.eng - i'm not sure what your comment is trying to insinuate, but I'm open to discussion. I also have a Bachelor in chemical and bioengineering from McMaster University.
Sue them for discrimination. They discriminate you as your gender, your racial background.
too much water, cut your video 6 times, refine you video clips. Can't follow what you talking about. In short, content 2/10