Pool Liner Replacement: How they do it.
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2016
- Published on Jun 18, 2016
After 26 years, the time had come to replace the vinyl pool liner in my in-ground pool. It was fascinating watching how it was done.
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Having installed liners now for 35 years this was a fun watch. I can see these guys are old school, look like a decent job but there's some new tools out that give better suction than a shop vac that are purpose built for the job. I suppose it gets the job done, way back when we used shop vacs too and burned out about 3 of them every season. These guys should invest in a "slop shove" and save their backs bending over to get out the last bit of gunk with a dustpan. One last thing I've never done is wear my sneakers in the pool, I always take them off and go socks or feet only... what if a pebble or something sharp were caught in your shoe tread which could poke the liner? Maybe they checked but not worth the chance for me. Anyways, nicely done video although a word to anyone watching that wants to try themselves, this is a very simple rectangle with no steps or anything difficult, there are MANY obstacles that can be run into doing such a job yourself, water in the ground, sand bottoms, all sorts of fittings... just a thought.
Lol I agree
There are easier ways for sure! But interesting to watch
I been doing pool liners now for 40 years, I also put fresh new gaskets new plastic housing and new stainless steel screws and check there ground connections or add a water ground
Beautiful the way you cut the liner in to section was cool a liner can last up to 20 years if well taken care of.
What a beautiful backyard! So peaceful and private.
I love your film
Good job...One observation, No stairs in pool...
Excellent Vid ..
Interesting and educational.
Fun to watch being an installer myself
wouldn't you hate this camera on you the whole time? It's bad enough when they sit over you and watch your every move questioning everything you do
my pool has been leaking summer 2017 but stopped i think because the ground water went pressure up just covered it and i noticed the cover was dropping..the liner is only 3 years old i think it may be leaking around the steps. But i took the solid cover off and installed the safety cover that lets the dirty water go in however it will stop the leaves from going in till i get to it in the spring of 2018. just a good back up but if you use a safety cover your pool will be green and take longer to clean!
I sell fine mesh covers. Water looks like it did when I closed it.
I would have foamed the walls, lots of rust. Scrape paint and foam. Shop vac the last of the old water out. Filling from shallow allows water to puddle and heat somewhat. I never lay hose on liner, if it starts wiggling back and forth with metal on vinyl,,, not good. Great job though.
46 yrs and still waiting to see rust put a hole in a liner...then again, soft foam behind liners w/ toenails, brushes, toys...holes galore!
@@crystalpools6761You don’t recommend foam panels?
I've worked on swimming pools since 1973 and have never put a liner in as sloppy as these guys. The bottom should have been scrubbed and washed down to eliminate the mold and algae that I saw on the video. The chance for stains bleeding through the liner is a real problem with liners nowadays, thanks to the liner manufacturers changing the chemical make up of the liner material. The pool would of looked a lot better if they had painted the coping while the liner was out. And any real pro would have blown the deck off before installing the liner to keep the debris from getting under the liner during installation. On a scale of 1to 10 , I give these guys a 3, maybe 4. Installers like this are why I don't have to look for work, work looks for me.
Yup I agree. Didn't look like they replaced the skimmer gasket either. Wearing shoes on liner. Didn't spray down floor or walls/track. Unless those parts were left out.
It would've been a lot better if they ordered it to fit instead of trying to avoid wrinkles and ordering it too small then stretching it in, or bought a shovel and shop vac to empty the water in the hopper that the pump wouldn't pick up, or bought a pool liner vac (the day we attempted to scrub a black stain that used to be a shop vac off of concrete I knew to find a better product) or ordered the liner from Tara Mfg, or put a vermiculite (poolcrete) bottom in it,or used wall foam, or cut and folded the old liner so it fits on the truck when the job is finished, or didnt drag the liner across the floor- get his ass to help you carry it! And Take that stupid valve off the hose and keep it off the liner! Or used an actual skimmer gasket instead of duct tape! Or if you had two skimmers and more than 2 returns (hayward 1408 fittings) when the pool was originally installed you wouldn't have had the issue with leaves to begin with. But I'll bet the WORLD my paycheck to your dollar that the original liner wasn't 26 years old- bullshit!
Funny how the shop is sitting right there on the patio but not used 😮😂
What was the temperature when you did this?
Nice pool. Good job guys. Please can you tell me how much it cost you to change the liner
Not a bad job and the video quality was good. Three observations: I would have used the shop vac (without a filter in it) to vac out the last few gallons of muck and algae. I did notice that at 17:20, the liner was out of the bead for about 3 feet on the left side of the pool. As soon as the liner vacs start pull the wrinkles out, I make it a point to scan the liner bead all around to make sure it is set in the coping. It can be real hard to get back into the coping after the pool is filled.I would have replaced the 1085 skimmer gaskets.Other than that, nice job.
Rick Tanguay how does the liner stick to the concrete pool? I don’t know if I missed something here.
@@daveh2612 the vacuum sucks all the air out from behind the liner. Holding it tight into place as it fills. Once water pressure is on the liner it will stay into place
That pool is so deep. What was the cost on this pool?
No foam on side walls?
What Size is that pool ?? How do you mesure it exactly?? I am going to try to do mines , is a pool like this one but not sure how to order the liner to give measurements for the corner , the depth , shallow etc , mines is 16x32 with 3 steps 8 1/2 “ deep , 3 1/2 shallow ! Having problems with radius measurements! Where is the best place to order liners ?????
I can’t even put on a fitted sheet
Looks easy. I think I’m going to do mine today ....🏊🏿♂️🏊🏿♂️. Jk. It would be a disaster.
What was the total cost of replacing the pool liner?
Did not see a bottom drain or skimmer? How does this pool filter water?
I would have power washed it before putting on the repair coat!
Great video, when were you able to turn vac off? You made it look easy, if it only was..
The job was professionally done at my home. As I recall, the vacuum was set-up and turned on at the end of their workday, and then ran all night into the next day. This was about two years ago, so I could be wrong.
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Just like every other pool company,,,didn't paint the rusty metal,,didn't brush and remove the mold,,,,
Installer does things the hard way
It would've been a lot better if they ordered it to fit instead of trying to avoid wrinkles and ordering it too small then stretching it in, or bought a shovel and shop vac to empty the water in the hopper that the pump wouldn't pick up, or bought a pool liner vac (the day we attempted to scrub a black stain that used to be a shop vac off of concrete I knew to find a better product) or ordered the liner from Tara Mfg, or put a vermiculite (poolcrete) bottom in it,or used wall foam, or cut and folded the old liner so it fits on the truck when the job is finished, or didnt drag the liner across the floor- get his ass to help you carry it! And Take that stupid valve off the hose and keep it off the liner! Or used an actual skimmer gasket instead of duct tape! Or if you had two skimmers and more than 2 returns (hayward 1408 fittings) when the pool was originally installed you wouldn't have had the issue with leaves to begin with. But I'll bet the WORLD my paycheck to your dollar that the original liner wasn't 26 years old- bullshit!
I don't see the jet holes or the rectangle for the skimmer; none of the things that my pool has 🤷
Only comment I have is why didn't they use water trucks
I can't stand when customers do this. The worst feeling in the world is having the person stand over the top of you for hours on end questioning every move you make.
Why was the pool fill started from the shallow end? The first hose was long enough to reach the deep end.
Hi Dennis, In retrospect I would only guess that it was more dramatic watching the water flow downward from the shallow end to the deep end,...thus creating a water fall effect.
Bill
wow almost 4 days to fill up the pool? Mine is a 20,000 gallon pool and only took about 8 hours to fill it up using 2 water hoes.
Dennis Skinner Doesn't matter where you fill the pool from. Water travels to lowest point by nature. I have built hundreds of pools and replaced as many liners. It makes no difference.
Lmfao you really think it makes a difference where the hose is 😂😂😂😂
I misread the company's address as "Fuher Street" and had some serious questions... but I guess it's okay after you read the address properly and don't wonder if the street has some sort of Nazi connection.
They filled it with a GARDEN HOSE??? My pool was filled by 3 water trucks. In 4 hours, not days. That seems like a colossal waste of time.
Is the pool safe to leave empty for a week while the new liner is being made?
BullBodybuilding I’m an installer the answer is no
Sharkson77
Thanks
@@sharkson7725 sure it is. Our new pool builds sit for weeks sometimes longer waiting on the decks to be poured..leaving pool empty can dry up a vermiculite/ sand cement floor but won't effect structural integrity of a pool being empty for a bit. I wouldn't leave it empty over winter or with ground water issues.
Steve Nunz the weather fucks up the vermic and it’s expensive as hell to fix
Steve Nunz of course it won’t mess up the structural integrity the bottom isn’t what holds it together it’s the concrete footer
I am a pool liner manufacturer, we are Amazon's product provider!can ask me any questions about video.
masudam llam Do I need to scrape the rust and chlorine from the walls before installing new liner?
@@joepannarale8691 scrape any rust. If more than just some easily removed surface rust we install 1/8 or 1/4" wall foam as protective barrier for the liner.
What material have this Pool in the bottom is concrete?
You still around??? Apparently, either our brush or skimmer edge cut the liner and we lost all the water in our i/g pool. I placed bags of salt and sand on the shallow end corners and near the steps to avoid tearing. We finally located and repaired a handful of little tears....will I need to use a vacuum like these guys did or can the water refilling actually take the wrinkles out????? Anyone with experience please do tell!
You are really killing your profits doing it this way. From my experience on doing hundreds of liner replacements, I would like to share some tips to speed up the process allowing you to capitalize as much as possible. Drop a sump pump in the pool a couple of days in advance. My customers keep an eye on it and call me if the pump shuts off but most of the time that isn't a problem. I also toss about six to eight pounds of shock in the pool when I drop the pump in, this way it isn't so nasty when I come back to do the replacment. The small cost of the shock is offset by the amount of labor I save. When you go to do the replacment the pool will be almost completely empty. This is when you dredge. Everything is contained to a small area and takes about an hour to dredge rather than blindly trying to dredge 20,000+ gallons of swamp soup. While one man is dredging I have two others removing the old liner and fittings. After everything is cleaned out we rinse the bottom down to the hopper and shop vac the remainder out. Next we hang a membrane (wall foam) on the wall to protect the liner and patch the bottom. On most jobs we have water going in the pool by lunchtime.
Scoop shovel. Liner vac.
There can be problems with your approach. First, not all towns allow highly chlorinated/chemical treated water to be pumped into storm drains as some drain into waterways.. 2nd. Draining the pool slowly can allow the floor to dry out (vermiculite and sand cements). Also allows any water table to build up under the liner while pool is draining slowly causing floor repair. I have a 3" trash pump that will drain a 16x32 in hr. By the time it is drained almost all the liner has been removed, gaskets replaced, steps and shallow end foamed. Spray the floor and agitate water to get debris suspended to be pumped out. Installs take 2-3 hrs with 2 guys. For the record I'm Not saying anyone is better than the other but your method won't apply to all areas. We do have places where we do have to drain slowly with small pump to avoid water draining issues. I have dropped small pumps off days prior if nice clean pool and If I know it's a hard bottom.
no liner pad!!
Who the fuck invented pool liners to begin with
LOL.... and why is there only 2 "old" guys going all the laborious work!!
So just simply cover your skimmer and returns?👎
Faceplates get put on after the liner has been stretched into place by water pressure