iZotope voice denoise is based on spectral subtraction (like many are) not machine learning/neural network that this Waves plugin seems to use. As mentioned, a better comparison is with iZotope Dialogue isolate which yields seemingly comparable results using similar NR techniques.
Yep agreed. I was looking into Dialogue Isolate though, and it's only available in the Advanced RX9 bundle, which is currently available at $1,200 USD. So just based on price alone, I'm not sure if it does makes sense to compare the two since the price points are so different. But yes, if we wanted to compare the two AI algorithms regardless of price, then you're right. Anyways, just wanted to bring that up since I've seen that in the comments a couple times now. Thanks for watching!
Agree with Ross Williams below but even better than both RX's Voice De-noise and Dialogue Isolate is RX's Spectral De-noise... more NR algorithms, better control over (a) signal harmonics, (b) artifacts, (c) high frequency synthesis (lost with most NRs out there). In fact, I rarely use any of RX 'Voice' NR features.
I was using Clarity Vx in 20 projects and had to remove it from all of them because it was destroying the ends of some words. I ended up using RX 10 Voice Denoise as my primary denoiser because it does not do nasty things and sounds great. Days of re-rendering.
Impressive! I didn't know to remove the low end before using RX Voice De-Noise! I use RX 8 for my voiceover work but will need to try Clarity VX! Thank you!
Yeah that generally helps when de-noising dialogue recorded on-set. Hopefully you don't have too much low end rumble in your voiceover booth, otherwise you might want to get some bass trap acoustic panels instead? Hope that helps!
@@FilmSoundTutorials No, I don't have too much low end in my recording space but I'm curious to see if there is an improvement in the finished audio. Thanks again!
Ah got it, yeah it will probably help. Also I generally don't use the de-noising plugins as real-time track plugins, but as AudioSuite plugins instead. That also seems to get better results. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this! Using your tips (I do VO work) I find Clarity VX to be great to lower the noise floor as long as you don't overdo it. I had a bad hum in one of my recordings and Clarity didn't do very well with it at first, but a notch EQ setting at the offending frequency before Clarity made the plugin less confused and work much better.
@@FilmSoundTutorials I agree. It seems like Clarity isn't de noising but separating dialogue from ambiance (like Dialogue Isolate) but with a balance knob. so in turning down the ambiance you get perceived noise reduction but at 100% voice it's more of a comparison to Izotope's Dialogue Isolate than their denoiser.
Dude I have almost never used the Izotope plugins unless it’s like cleaning something from a treated room environment. A normal dialogue cleaning I always use the connect link to use the full version. And waves cleaner doesn’t hold a candle to the entire Rx system. Not to mention the time save when you do the same scene with the same noises and problems. Then you just make your settings and hit the button. Double check of course
Yep agreed, like I said in the video, denoising is just one part of cleaning up dialogue. I also generally use the denoising plugins as Audiosuite plugins instead of using them like this in real-time. But showing them working in real-time was easier to show the difference on UA-cam. Thanks for watching!
Except Waves Clarity Vx doesn't actually work on Mac (!) They sell it, but it doesn't work on M1 - so not on MacBook Pro, not Mac Studio, not MacBook Air, only on old Intel macs. I bought it, then realized it doesn't work. I wrote to their support and they confirmed it. Only way to make the plugin work is to run the entire software (Premiere, Davinci Resolve etc) emulated in Rosetta which obviously is a no-go. So that's that unfortunately. If you have any feedback channel to Waves, suggest give them some... feedback.
@@FilmSoundTutorials I wanted to come back here and apologize for the sour tone in my comment. Sorry. I wasn't annoyed at you. I was annoyed because I had just spent hours trying to figure out why it wouldn't work, only to discover that there was a tiny * saying that only old macs are supported, not the new ones, while they still happily sell it. I wrote some healthy feedback to them haha. Thank you for posting great content. Your videos are great!
Just got the VX, very impressive! will come in handy when running my AC in my VO booth in the summer! I use waves NS1 and will play with this to compare, great comparisons, thank you--- I subbed you as well!! Thank you!
It would have been interesting to compare Clarity to RX Dialogue Isolate. They are more similar. Also a comparison to C-Suite C-Vox would be ear opening.
Both Final Cut Pro and Davinci Resolve - editing programs for film - now have a built in dialogue isolator based on machine learning, that is remarkably capable. It seems about 18 months ago somebody just cracked how to do this, and now it's everywhere.
No, and that was one of my complaints. It does a great job removing the noise, but it doesn't de-click or de-ess the voice itself. So I think the RX9 modules do a better job cleaning up the dialogue itself. Hope that helps!
Nice, glad to hear it's working for you. In the latter half of the video I talk about the different settings in the Pro version, so hopefully that helps. Thanks for watching!
@@FilmSoundTutorials Yes, I watched the entire video. It's wonderful. Like you I've been using the Izotope as well as Waves NS1, the Audionamix IDC, and the Accusonus ERA NR, but Clarity Vx is much better than any of these with far fewer artifacts and noise modulation. I looked at the Clarity Pro Version but the cost is an order of magnitude more.
Thanks! Yeah true, the Pro version is much more expensive. I guess it just depends how much you think you're going to use the plugin. I generally only buy new plugins when the film I'm working on needs a specific effect that I can't get with the tools I already have. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing the link where to get the software, I just got the pro version. Also, thanks for your tutorial. with them I was able to do post production sound for a small project. I have a question. I used Isotope to clean my dialogue using their dialogue isolate. My question is, when should I choose adding a plugin (Wave) into my BUS to clean dialogue VS sending file to izotope and render a clean version. I am puzzled.
Nice! I'm glad the tutorial was helpful. So generally when I'm cleaning up my dialogue in Pro Tools, I'll use the AudioSuite version of the plugins since those seems to have better quality than the real-time versions that you put on a track. So if you want to clean a dialogue clip with Clarity VX Pro, you would open the plugin from the AudioSuite menu, then select the clip, preview the settings and change the settings if needed, and then render the settings onto the clip. Also, you probably don't need to use both of the de-noising plugins on a clip, just choose one or the other. Hope that helps!
Hmm this plugin is made specifically to remove noise from voice recordings. So it might not work well for removing noise from vinyl music recordings. Hope that helps!
Are you utilizing the Advanced version of Izotope RX Post Production Suite? If so, what version number (meaning, Suite 5, Suite 6, and so on)? The reason why I asked those particular questions is because each different version of Izotope RX Post Production Suite comes with updates and improvements.
I just did a test of my own comparing Clarity Vx (purchased after viewing your video!) with Waves' other denoiser, NS1, to clean up dialogue. Is there any circumstance where NS 1 might be the better choice between the two? Or does Clarity Vx represent a more evolved version of NS1?
I'm not sure, I haven't used the Waves NS1 in a long time, so I don't remember what noises its good at removing. It probably depends on the clip and what noise you're trying to remove. Thanks for watching!
Sweet! Say, did you know that you can get foreign sfx libraries too? For example, the Japanese SFX library collection, Otojiten. Jeff Nelson of MeowWolf has used one of those libraries in the Omega Mart Training Video. Maybe you could demonstrate those libraries if you feel like getting them.
I probably have some foreign libraries, it's hard to tell. I actually went to Omega Mart in Las Vegas a couple months ago, super cool experience. That's a good idea for the video, I just wonder if I play the samples soloed that might be a copyright violation? I'm not sure. Thanks for the suggestion!
Hi,I want to ask that when we get any foreign content for dubbing..Will that includes the original voices of actors(Dialogues, original language) OR only Music and Background effects track?? Plz..
Yep agreed. It depends on the film, what specs the original mix was in, how much budget they had for post sound. It would be pretty hard to dub a film into a different language though if you weren't given the original language dialogue as a guide track. Hope that helps!
Well right now it's $249 with the coupon: CREATE40 , so yes? If you're asking whether it will ever be cheaper than that, I'm not sure. Maybe during the holiday sale? It's hard to say since Waves generally gives much bigger discounts to their older plugins vs. their newer plugins. Hope that helps!
Too bad to talk about AI and compare a product (Clarity) based on this technology and the other not. It would have been necessary to compare with Izotope Dialogue Isolate for the test to be relevant. Too bad 😒
iZotope voice denoise is based on spectral subtraction (like many are) not machine learning/neural network that this Waves plugin seems to use. As mentioned, a better comparison is with iZotope Dialogue isolate which yields seemingly comparable results using similar NR techniques.
Yep agreed. I was looking into Dialogue Isolate though, and it's only available in the Advanced RX9 bundle, which is currently available at $1,200 USD. So just based on price alone, I'm not sure if it does makes sense to compare the two since the price points are so different. But yes, if we wanted to compare the two AI algorithms regardless of price, then you're right. Anyways, just wanted to bring that up since I've seen that in the comments a couple times now. Thanks for watching!
Agree with Ross Williams below but even better than both RX's Voice De-noise and Dialogue Isolate is RX's Spectral De-noise... more NR algorithms, better control over (a) signal harmonics, (b) artifacts, (c) high frequency synthesis (lost with most NRs out there). In fact, I rarely use any of RX 'Voice' NR features.
Cool, thanks for you input!
I bought Clarity Vx basic and ran my own quick tests. RX Dialogue isolate would be my first choice, but for $29 this is a good additional tool to use.
Nice, yeah I think the low-ish price point helps vs. the RX bundles.
Really? I did my own tests on RX8. Clarity VX blows it away. Did my tests at a soccer training interview
I was using Clarity Vx in 20 projects and had to remove it from all of them because it was destroying the ends of some words. I ended up using RX 10 Voice Denoise as my primary denoiser because it does not do nasty things and sounds great. Days of re-rendering.
Long time no see. I really love to see your videos, nice knowledge from expert 👍
Thanks, happy to be back! I had fun making this video, so I'm glad the video is helpful. Thanks for watching!
It's great to have you back!! Always happy to see your videos!
Thanks! Yep, I try to make a video when I have some free time. I'm glad you enjoy them!
Impressive! I didn't know to remove the low end before using RX Voice De-Noise! I use RX 8 for my voiceover work but will need to try Clarity VX! Thank you!
Yeah that generally helps when de-noising dialogue recorded on-set. Hopefully you don't have too much low end rumble in your voiceover booth, otherwise you might want to get some bass trap acoustic panels instead? Hope that helps!
@@FilmSoundTutorials No, I don't have too much low end in my recording space but I'm curious to see if there is an improvement in the finished audio. Thanks again!
Ah got it, yeah it will probably help. Also I generally don't use the de-noising plugins as real-time track plugins, but as AudioSuite plugins instead. That also seems to get better results. Thanks for watching!
@@FilmSoundTutorials Thank you!!!
Thanks for this! Using your tips (I do VO work) I find Clarity VX to be great to lower the noise floor as long as you don't overdo it.
I had a bad hum in one of my recordings and Clarity didn't do very well with it at first, but a notch EQ setting at the offending frequency before Clarity made the plugin less confused and work much better.
Awesome, great to hear! Thanks for watching!
Welcome back champ !!
Absolutely fantastic content as always 👏🏻
Thanks, I appreciate it!
6:16 A single.. ambient free tear dropped from my eye.
What sorcery is this???
11:22 Mind=Blown.
Haha yeah, the plugin did pretty good with the various clips.
You need to compare to iZotope dialogue isolate. That's more apples to apples.
Cool thanks, I haven't tried that plugin yet. I'll check it out!
@@FilmSoundTutorials I agree. It seems like Clarity isn't de noising but separating dialogue from ambiance (like Dialogue Isolate) but with a balance knob. so in turning down the ambiance you get perceived noise reduction but at 100% voice it's more of a comparison to Izotope's Dialogue Isolate than their denoiser.
@@FierceMusicGroup Cool good to know. Thanks!
that was AMAZING and exactly what I needed to see/hear.Thank you so much! incredible! subscribing
Awesome, glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!
Dude I have almost never used the Izotope plugins unless it’s like cleaning something from a treated room environment. A normal dialogue cleaning I always use the connect link to use the full version. And waves cleaner doesn’t hold a candle to the entire Rx system. Not to mention the time save when you do the same scene with the same noises and problems. Then you just make your settings and hit the button. Double check of course
Yep agreed, like I said in the video, denoising is just one part of cleaning up dialogue. I also generally use the denoising plugins as Audiosuite plugins instead of using them like this in real-time. But showing them working in real-time was easier to show the difference on UA-cam. Thanks for watching!
But now you can use a plugin for Denoise and get pristine quality. You simply can’t get this sound in complex denoise situations in isotope.
Except Waves Clarity Vx doesn't actually work on Mac (!) They sell it, but it doesn't work on M1 - so not on MacBook Pro, not Mac Studio, not MacBook Air, only on old Intel macs. I bought it, then realized it doesn't work. I wrote to their support and they confirmed it. Only way to make the plugin work is to run the entire software (Premiere, Davinci Resolve etc) emulated in Rosetta which obviously is a no-go. So that's that unfortunately. If you have any feedback channel to Waves, suggest give them some... feedback.
I don't work for Waves, nor talk to them regularly, so it might be better if you talk to their customer service instead? Thanks for watching!
@@FilmSoundTutorials I wanted to come back here and apologize for the sour tone in my comment. Sorry. I wasn't annoyed at you. I was annoyed because I had just spent hours trying to figure out why it wouldn't work, only to discover that there was a tiny * saying that only old macs are supported, not the new ones, while they still happily sell it. I wrote some healthy feedback to them haha. Thank you for posting great content. Your videos are great!
@@CTOLARSSON No worries! Totally, that makes sense. I'm glad you reached out to them to let them know. Thanks for the kind words! Thanks for watching!
@@FilmSoundTutorials Thanks man. And audio in video is SO underrated. Thanks for doing the work and sharing your insights!!! Will keep watching.
@@CTOLARSSON Agreed! Thanks!
Just got the VX, very impressive! will come in handy when running my AC in my VO booth in the summer! I use waves NS1 and will play with this to compare, great comparisons, thank you--- I subbed you as well!! Thank you!
Nice, I'm glad the video was helpful. Thanks for watching!
It would have been interesting to compare Clarity to RX Dialogue Isolate. They are more similar.
Also a comparison to C-Suite C-Vox would be ear opening.
Cool, thanks for the suggestion!
Both Final Cut Pro and Davinci Resolve - editing programs for film - now have a built in dialogue isolator based on machine learning, that is remarkably capable. It seems about 18 months ago somebody just cracked how to do this, and now it's everywhere.
Nice! I'll have to check those out. Thanks!
Great tip on Hi Passing before the plugin.
Of course!
Does it remove noise within the vocals? Such as nose noises etc. I find rx can't get some of that stuff out.
No, and that was one of my complaints. It does a great job removing the noise, but it doesn't de-click or de-ess the voice itself. So I think the RX9 modules do a better job cleaning up the dialogue itself. Hope that helps!
I have Clarity Vx and it appears to work amazingly well. I'll have to check out the Pro version.
Nice, glad to hear it's working for you. In the latter half of the video I talk about the different settings in the Pro version, so hopefully that helps. Thanks for watching!
@@FilmSoundTutorials Yes, I watched the entire video. It's wonderful. Like you I've been using the Izotope as well as Waves NS1, the Audionamix IDC, and the Accusonus ERA NR, but Clarity Vx is much better than any of these with far fewer artifacts and noise modulation. I looked at the Clarity Pro Version but the cost is an order of magnitude more.
Thanks! Yeah true, the Pro version is much more expensive. I guess it just depends how much you think you're going to use the plugin. I generally only buy new plugins when the film I'm working on needs a specific effect that I can't get with the tools I already have. Thanks for watching!
Wow. Always hated how iz cuts the highs. But this is next level.
Yep, that's why I always reduce the strength and tweak the settings before rendering out the de-noised clip. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing the link where to get the software, I just got the pro version. Also, thanks for your tutorial. with them I was able to do post production sound for a small project. I have a question. I used Isotope to clean my dialogue using their dialogue isolate. My question is, when should I choose adding a plugin (Wave) into my BUS to clean dialogue VS sending file to izotope and render a clean version. I am puzzled.
Nice! I'm glad the tutorial was helpful. So generally when I'm cleaning up my dialogue in Pro Tools, I'll use the AudioSuite version of the plugins since those seems to have better quality than the real-time versions that you put on a track. So if you want to clean a dialogue clip with Clarity VX Pro, you would open the plugin from the AudioSuite menu, then select the clip, preview the settings and change the settings if needed, and then render the settings onto the clip. Also, you probably don't need to use both of the de-noising plugins on a clip, just choose one or the other. Hope that helps!
Can it remove electrical cable noise, static, and/or vinyl noise from old recordings? I find izotope does struggle had with those type of problems.
Hmm this plugin is made specifically to remove noise from voice recordings. So it might not work well for removing noise from vinyl music recordings. Hope that helps!
Rx9 advanced 100% can do this
Are you utilizing the Advanced version of Izotope RX Post Production Suite? If so, what version number (meaning, Suite 5, Suite 6, and so on)?
The reason why I asked those particular questions is because each different version of Izotope RX Post Production Suite comes with updates and improvements.
No, I was using the Standard Version of RX 9. Version 9.3.0.1435 to be precise. Hope that helps!
I just did a test of my own comparing Clarity Vx (purchased after viewing your video!) with Waves' other denoiser, NS1, to clean up dialogue. Is there any circumstance where NS 1 might be the better choice between the two? Or does Clarity Vx represent a more evolved version of NS1?
I'm not sure, I haven't used the Waves NS1 in a long time, so I don't remember what noises its good at removing. It probably depends on the clip and what noise you're trying to remove. Thanks for watching!
Beautiful video man it The Clarity VX works wonders but cannot maintain the full audio spectrum of the voice.
Yep agreed, not without fiddling with the settings a bit. Thanks for watching!
Sweet! Say, did you know that you can get foreign sfx libraries too? For example, the Japanese SFX library collection, Otojiten. Jeff Nelson of MeowWolf has used one of those libraries in the Omega Mart Training Video. Maybe you could demonstrate those libraries if you feel like getting them.
I probably have some foreign libraries, it's hard to tell. I actually went to Omega Mart in Las Vegas a couple months ago, super cool experience. That's a good idea for the video, I just wonder if I play the samples soloed that might be a copyright violation? I'm not sure. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@FilmSoundTutorials Not at all. Also, it's cool that you went to Omega Mart.
There is something called ultimate vocal remover 5 that actually gives me slightly better result than clarity vx for free most of the time.
Nice, good to know! Thanks for sharing!
Great video demo.
Thanks!
Hi,I want to ask that when we get any foreign content for dubbing..Will that includes the original voices of actors(Dialogues, original language) OR only Music and Background effects track?? Plz..
It depends… the usual m&e delivery should include a guide track with just the original dialog, or an offline mix
Yep agreed. It depends on the film, what specs the original mix was in, how much budget they had for post sound. It would be pretty hard to dub a film into a different language though if you weren't given the original language dialogue as a guide track. Hope that helps!
Since the retail price of Pro is $799, do you think it could go cheeper?
Well right now it's $249 with the coupon: CREATE40 , so yes? If you're asking whether it will ever be cheaper than that, I'm not sure. Maybe during the holiday sale? It's hard to say since Waves generally gives much bigger discounts to their older plugins vs. their newer plugins. Hope that helps!
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Haha yeah there's some funny lines in the film. Thanks for watching!
brusfri is also an amazing noise gate in fact better than Waves Clarity Vx on my fish tanks
Nice, I haven't used Brusfri yet, I'll have to check it out. Thanks for watching!
Too bad to talk about AI and compare a product (Clarity) based on this technology and the other not. It would have been necessary to compare with Izotope Dialogue Isolate for the test to be relevant. Too bad 😒
Sure, I can look into making a video with Dialogue Isolate as well. Thanks!
Stopped watching at “full disclosure”
Why? By law I need to say that it was a sponsored video?