My new LiFePo4 Set-Up. What did I choose?

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  • @dekdeejay5081
    @dekdeejay5081 4 місяці тому +30

    loise rossmann is a defender of the rightous dont take your videos down we are behind you !!!

    • @Potsie
      @Potsie 4 місяці тому +1

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    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  4 місяці тому +9

      DCS has publicly claimed that my reviews are not genuine, so I’ve decided to make the videos public again to allow viewers to assess the content and form their own opinions.
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      Please note that in Australia, comments are often disabled on controversial videos to avoid potential legal issues related to defamation. The 2021 High Court ruling makes media outlets liable for defamatory comments on their posts, which affects how many handle user-generated content.

    • @petervengepetercarljackson8961
      @petervengepetercarljackson8961 4 місяці тому +1

      ​​@@AlloffroadAu
      It's actually good for you to make the videos public, especially they're suing you for defamation. Even if you private the videos they will still sue you.
      Louis Rossmann has mentioned that that company demanded you to remove your GoFundMe because the company name is mentioned, but somehow say they sue those who made fake reviews after deny suing anyone, is why I am wondering which video(s) are used by them for the lawsuit.
      If they aren't hiding something defamatory why are they taking such actions?

  • @moderndiscourse
    @moderndiscourse 4 місяці тому +17

    Here from Louis Video, and we got your back homie.
    Also donating to your go fund me as I watch this.

  • @brandontscheschlog
    @brandontscheschlog 4 місяці тому +6

    You have our support and I hope you are victorious.

  • @fredfred4086
    @fredfred4086 4 місяці тому +3

    Awesome video as usual Stephan. I've watched your videos for a few years, and yesterday I saw your videos about DCS suing you for a fair and honest review you made after thoroughly testing their batteries. This is very wrong of DCS. I was delighted today to see that Louis Rossman - who was in the same situation as you when Apple (phones) tried to get him to take his product review video down - has become aware of your situation and made a video backing you up and challenging DCS to sue him as well. I trust that we all will continue to enjoy many more quality videos from you in future. Keep up the good work Stephan. The internet is a wonderful thing!

  • @turboleggy
    @turboleggy 4 місяці тому +2

    Just donated 10 bucks. Appreciate honest reviews that we get from youtubers like you.

  • @CaptainSeamus
    @CaptainSeamus 4 місяці тому +11

    Louis Rossmann pointed me your way, but I've seen earlier stuff from a certain company - and, as someone currently in the renewable energy field, and with 40 years of battery experience in the transportation sector - I knew the claims the shills were putting out were, ummmm, sketchy at best. That they are attempting to silence people calling them on it is both despicable, and sadly, predictable. Please continue the good fight. From the USA.

  • @cyclemoto8744
    @cyclemoto8744 11 місяців тому +2

    Impressive charge current. I can absolutely understand paying more to reduce the risk of issues considering the problems you experienced with DCS. Not within my price range and I haven't experienced the same problems as you with my LifePo4 batteries (Not DCS) however I have thrown in the towel and paid more for other DC power system components due to on-going reliability issues. Thanks for the content Stefan.

  • @paulsenrichard
    @paulsenrichard 11 місяців тому +4

    Like most of your videos, I had a solid take-away with this one. The dual DCDC - even going in a bit lower capacity at much reduced pricing - while builiding the contingency of one shitting itself.

  • @wilso7235
    @wilso7235 11 місяців тому +6

    At least you gave the lipo’s a go under the bonnet so we don’t have to try it now 👍
    As for the induction cooker… I think you’ll need a trailer for all your solar panels 😂

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +1

      lol as long as I'm driving a few hours every day in car charging is no issue, If I have more than two days stationary and clouds I'm running in to trouble if I induction cook and need to recharge Ecoflow without driving.

  • @1stRanger
    @1stRanger 3 місяці тому +1

    Since you have EF I would recommend getting their Alternator Charger. It's DC-DC and is much more efficient at charging Delta 2 from either car battery/alternator or from your LiFePO4.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  3 місяці тому

      yea, have many power banks from different manufacturers and already have Inverter and two DCDC charger so another one would be overkill

  • @MuggsFJ
    @MuggsFJ 5 місяців тому +2

    I have been using the Redarc 1225D for a while now, and mounted in the back of my car it always sits at 25Ahr until the battery starts to approach full charge. Does not get hot.

  • @Susieandchris
    @Susieandchris 11 місяців тому +8

    Great video and Thankyou for sharing. I can see the battery is great for you but for most it’s unattainable at over $3000 which is ridiculous. Edit …would you actually use this battery if you had to buy it ? Thankyou again love your videos and your reviews are fantastic.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +7

      I've pondered over this as well, and based on my past experiences with other batteries, I believe the answer is yes. The entire ethos behind building my cruiser was to ensure it's both reliable and capable. I've learned from experience that opting for cheaper solutions often leads to double the expense down the line. Considering the cruiser's value at around $100,000, and how crucial the auxiliary battery setup is for my travels and filming, it's definitely not a component I would compromise on. Reliability in this aspect is key.

  • @overland_adventure_nz
    @overland_adventure_nz 11 місяців тому +2

    Another great video,Thanks.
    Your videos keep costing me money ! Did an awesome one about your set up for navigation and the mounts, I’m now waiting for a dash mount to be manufactured and shipped to NZ for my new LC78 Troopie.
    Now this one about lithium batteries, i’m in a little bit of a quandary though because I can’t decide if I should go with a Redarc Manager30 and a redarc lithium 100mh battery or a Redarc Goblock100 to keep it compact, simple, and able to remove to save weight, when not camping in the back of my troopie.
    Keep up your videos please .

  • @Bigcountry_littlelegs
    @Bigcountry_littlelegs 11 місяців тому +2

    Good to see its going well so far.
    I would be more comfortable with that battery and should be more reliable and safe

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +1

      yes that's what I'm banking on

  • @marklaurendet1861
    @marklaurendet1861 11 місяців тому +2

    Be interesting to see how this one work out, especially for the price.
    Are looking at any LifePo4 for under the bonnet use in the future?

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому

      yes I'm keen to see how this goes myself given the companies behind it I hope this will work out.

  • @wasbruce
    @wasbruce 11 місяців тому +4

    Redarc might be fine for those with deep pockets, or receiving the products free or subsidised for review, but for many of us it's out of the question at 2 or 3 times the price but not 2 or 3 times as good as alternatives. Also can't understand how you can't fit a 2000W inverter to replace your 700W but can fit a complete second battery/inverter pack.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +3

      Yes, it's not cheap; if it lasts 5000 cycles, it's worth it in my book as a feature wise I think it's a great battery. I had the 700w inverter at home for some time, so I used it. I could only fit a 2000w inverter by changing my whole layout, which I wasn't prepared to do as my current set-up works fine, and 150a capacity for induction cooking would be on the low side for me anyway as I require the capacity to charge all my gear. The Redarc Battery is in the same spot where my Revolution battery was, so not too many changes are required.

    • @christurner68
      @christurner68 11 місяців тому

      Exactly wat I thought, 2000w invert size and weight wise should be the same as the about the same. But can see a point that he has more unusable capacity.

    • @ianweal3081
      @ianweal3081 11 місяців тому +1

      I'm with you, truly can't fathom stuffing round with 700W invertor.
      I'd take the time to rearrange and fit a 2000W unit myself, ditching the weight and bulk of portable unit.
      Trust me, I know confined spaces, but for the benefits I'd find a way.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому

      yea, but as I said, pretty much all my gear is 12v. I rarely have used my old 300w Inverter over the past years. The 700w inverter was lying in my garage for two years but was never installed because of no room and no urgency. The only reason for me to have a 2000w inverter would be induction cooking, and that is something that I only recently discovered and won't be doing exclusively. If I wanted to use an induction cooker from the car, I would need at least 250AH available, and that means room for an additional battery and also a significantly bigger inverter. I had two weeks' time to get that sorted before the trip, and given I have the Ecoflow Delta 2 and often carry it anyway, so I can offload my footage away from the car and also cook away from the car , this was the better option for me at this stage. If I build a new car, I will definitely go with a higher-capacity LiFePo4 and a bigger inverter.

    • @christurner68
      @christurner68 11 місяців тому

      @@AlloffroadAu Totally get your point, it was just that you said you could not fit an inverter in and in the next sentence you showed that brick of a power pack. with that brick you have more capacity for your needs and it is portable. You don’t need induction cooking anyway as you just need to boil some water to eat those freeze dried meals haha! 👍

  • @PracticalSolutionsNews
    @PracticalSolutionsNews 4 місяці тому

    The PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS NEWS network is very impressed with your PRACTICAL solutions in battery testing. You empower people to test manufacturers claims. It results in manufacturers IMPROVING their systems. They should thank you and even reward you for the tests you run.

  • @neilmitchelhill9388
    @neilmitchelhill9388 4 місяці тому +2

    I have donated to your go fund me program as a result of another you tubers video I watched, I am now watching all your videos on batteries. Obviously in my NEW build that I am currently doing will not be the brand suing you (unfairly in my opinion)

  • @djnmv
    @djnmv 4 місяці тому +1

    Sorry for commenting on this particular video, but has the video(s) that DCS are suing about been taken off UA-cam? I've been trying to look for it to see what all their fuss is about, but can't seem to find it?

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  4 місяці тому +2

      yes while the court case is ongoing I unfortunately had to make it private.

  • @mothergoose3064
    @mothergoose3064 11 місяців тому

    I added a Redarc Core BCDC1240 to my existing Redarc Manager 30 and I get a genuine 70a charge. The other advantage of two chargers is that I have the roof mounted solar connected to the Manager 30 and an Anderson plug for a sloar blanket wired to the BCDC1240. I'm running two Amptron 150ah batteries, use dual induction, coffee machine and toaster (not all at once) and it works brilliantly.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +1

      That sounds like a good setup; yes, I will also be adding an additional BCDC1225D, which should be sufficient.

  • @jongmans38
    @jongmans38 11 місяців тому

    I think it is best to use something that you have confidence in for your trips, good choice.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому

      yes time will tell but I hope this will serve me a long time

  • @fisherman6794
    @fisherman6794 11 місяців тому +14

    Would you buy this battery for over $3000 with your own money? That's way out of reach for most people

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +14

      Yes, that is a good question; I would say after my past experience with other batteries, there is a very good chance I would have. The whole cruiser was always built to be a very reliable and capable car and I learned quite a while ago that the poor man often pays twice. The cruiser is a 100k car, and my auxiliary battery set-up is super important for my travels and filming, so it is definitely a component I would not skimp on having it reliable.

    • @geoffclarke5901
      @geoffclarke5901 5 місяців тому +3

      For the past 10 years I have used nothing but redarc and that means my set ups have been expensive but I have never had any issues with any of the redarc gear. Every time I go on big trips someone always spends time fiddling with some issue with there 12 volt gear. But I have never had a single issue. That’s worth the extra cash for me personally🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @turboleggy
      @turboleggy 4 місяці тому +1

      Offroading be keeping broke like that lol. I'm happy going out for 3 days and it requires way less shit.

    • @ConfusedGeriatric
      @ConfusedGeriatric 3 місяці тому

      @@geoffclarke5901100% mate. Last thing I’d want is electrical issues out in the bush, such a massive headache and worse could end the trip!

  • @philg2468
    @philg2468 11 місяців тому +1

    Are you sure they are prismatic cells? The video footage showed cylindrical cells and the Redarc video shows "18650" on the side of the packs.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +1

      According to Redarc and Super B they are Prismatic in the Alpha 150, Super B manufactures many different typs of LiFePo4 batteries though and I have seen that they also have cylindrical cells is use in other batteries. have a look at www.super-b.com/en/products/epsilon-12v150ah which states Prismatic

    • @philg2468
      @philg2468 11 місяців тому

      @@AlloffroadAu Thanks for that. Video must have been different batteries.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +1

      yes I took footage from their UA-cam Chanel I just thought it showed quite well that's not a small backyard operation

  • @KOBBSdiesel
    @KOBBSdiesel 11 місяців тому

    Good review mate. Could you also do a new in-depth Land Cruiser review with all gears in it?

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому

      I have 3 videos about the Cruiser build on the Channel

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому

      there are quite a few build video on my channel
      ua-cam.com/video/jvP4krrB_8U/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/c7V-r5uM1KQ/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/szp2EPv-Tu0/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/_0qxBEXyYho/v-deo.html

  • @callumwhite1501
    @callumwhite1501 11 місяців тому +3

    The redarc 50amp charger is crap. Get rid of it and get 2 x 25amp chargers. Redarc are not forthcoming with the charging output which is annoying. Putting a fan on will not help, I honestly think it’s time based

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому

      older one had a time based Lithium schedule but Redarc changed that after my video. New one is definitely heat as I measured it reaches 60c quickly. Keen to see how I go with 1250D and 1225D If I get around 50 continuous and a higher peak I'm happy otherwise will try different DCDC charge.

  • @MadMax-iy8gp
    @MadMax-iy8gp 11 місяців тому

    Why no picture of the battery set up in your car

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому

      Not that appealing behind the seats in a box but it's in the video

  • @petervengepetercarljackson8961
    @petervengepetercarljackson8961 4 місяці тому +2

    Have you asked lawyers anything about counter sue them for defamation after this?

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  4 місяці тому +2

      yea I just want my peace back and not being out of pocket

    • @petervengepetercarljackson8961
      @petervengepetercarljackson8961 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@AlloffroadAu Understandable, but sometimes precedent must be set. Or else, it's just another cycle as repetitive as 4 stroke cycle.

  • @mikelastname
    @mikelastname 4 місяці тому

    Beat DCS. I've just bought you a bunch of coffees to help - but don't drink them all at once or it will be bad for your health*
    *I am not a doctor, so my advice is only an opinion, but I have a belief that too much caffeine may under certain circumstances create heart irregularity.

  • @Dieter.Reuter
    @Dieter.Reuter 11 місяців тому

    Don't charge the Ecoflow from an inverter and your battery. You can easily charge the Ecoflow during driving via a 12V cable with 8A max (charging with 100 watts), or (this way I'm doing it with my DELTA MAX 1600) using a 12V-24V converter and charge it via 24V with 8A max (charging with 200 watts), That's the easiest and safest way for me, also better for the Ecoflow battery and while driving you should have plenty of power from your alternator. 😏

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +1

      yes 8a is sometimes not enough but the inverter will charge with 600w and that is sufficient and still not fast charging so preserver battery.

  • @louiskudlak2256
    @louiskudlak2256 11 місяців тому +2

    Redarc gear and lithium batteries are still out of my price range, most people i think

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому

      yes it’s a pity they are quite expensive

    • @louiskudlak2256
      @louiskudlak2256 11 місяців тому +2

      @@AlloffroadAu great products but

  • @ausguy4385
    @ausguy4385 11 місяців тому +1

    Should have just got a power paul battery

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому

      I wanted a well researched and developed battery from a very reputable manufacture and Superb/Redarc filled that criteria.

    • @bencole9936
      @bencole9936 11 місяців тому +3

      Exactly what I have
      Well researched and developed is exactly what PowerPaul is
      When your in the know ... your in the know

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому

      can't comment about Power Paul's batteries as I never used them, but from what I know, it's a one-man show. While the batteries may be great, as stated, I wanted a big reputable company that won't go anywhere.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +1

      @bencole9936 can't comment about Power Paul's batteries as I never used them, but from what I know, it's a one-man show. While the batteries may be great, as stated, I wanted a big, reputable company. Maybe, one day I try one of his batteries.

    • @bencole9936
      @bencole9936 11 місяців тому +1

      @AlloffroadAu
      1 man show gets you attention to detail
      "Big mobs" usually mass produced without any care
      What I look for anyways

  • @myshortcuts15
    @myshortcuts15 11 місяців тому +2

    Didnt you say all these positive things about DCS a couple of years ago?
    Also for someone who got stuffed around by RedArc with the limitations of the 1250 DCDC and which obviously still doesnt work as well as a premium product should, you must be getting these products for nothing to still want to spruik the RedArc superiority.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому

      yep did say many positive things about DCS but unfortunately they just did not last for me under the bonnet something which only became apparent with time. Redarc actually did listen and change the Lithium charge profile after my video. The issue is heat. I clearly don't spruik superiority if I show the shortcomings I guess it's hard for any not ventilated unit i.e without a fan to provide such a high output and not derate because of heat. I do agree Redarc could advertise this differently. I have not seen a different non ventilated unite provide full continuous 50a output have you?. Nearly all BCDC chargers have a heat based derating so not unique to Redarc. Redarc has the highest operating temp of all the DCDC charges I looked at still de-rates though.

    • @myshortcuts15
      @myshortcuts15 11 місяців тому +1

      @@AlloffroadAu The DCS experiment was just that I guess and I certainly thankyou for the the effort that you put in to expose them.
      Regarding RedArc, I just think they are over priced. Most people cant afford to buy 2 1250s to make it work as advertised. I totally understand the heat issue and most wagon owners are looking for the smallest form factor but its really a bit of a scam to sell it as a 50A charger and charge a premium price for it.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  5 місяців тому

      yea I agree unfortunately they all do it the Enerdrive DCDC also does not provide 50a indefinitely

  • @pabichpawel
    @pabichpawel 11 місяців тому +3

    The new redarc battery looks like an amazing product yet still it’s hard to believe that Kings 100 amps battery is nearly 1/10 of its price.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +2

      yes, I'm over experimenting, though and need something reliable and proven

    • @bazza2540
      @bazza2540 11 місяців тому +1

      Lithium batteries are more than a convenience, they are a fire hazard when they fail. Would you trust a Kings battery in your car? I get people like cheap awnings if they don't use it so often, but not sure I'd go the discount lithium path. Rather stick to quality agm if I couldn't stretch to a good lithium. Also, The comparable redarc battery is 3x the price, this one is a special variant. That would be the minimum discount I would want to go some cheap Chinese direct product

    • @pabichpawel
      @pabichpawel 11 місяців тому +1

      ⁠@@bazza2540I have no evidence that tells me
      they are not safe. There are many positive reviews on YT . Also, I can imagine that for every Redarc there are tens, if not more, Kings sold. If there was a major problem with them we would have heard about it already.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +1

      yea my concern with cheap LiFePo4 is that every batch may be different not sure if you get consistently same cell and set up. I also have seen tear downs and for the price they look ok personally would just not risk it though.

    • @bencole9936
      @bencole9936 11 місяців тому +1

      Kings have been pulled down plenty of times now by gurus on FB lithium pages
      All perform well beyond what they're stamped at
      Itech on the other hand are proving to be marketed well but tbeyre absolute crap in an orange box
      Kings warranty is no issue and if your comparing a lithium battery to an awning ... fck me hahaa

  • @AndrewCharter-x1y
    @AndrewCharter-x1y 10 місяців тому +1

    Hang on! So u can’t fit the 2000W inverter in, so instead u charge the Ecoflow & use that?🤔 The Ecoflow will be 4x the size of the inverter!😂 So rather than just have a battery & an inverter, now u use a battery & inverter to charge another battery to run another inverter!🤔 That right?🤷‍♂️🤣🤣

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  10 місяців тому +1

      as I mentioned before, I carry a portable battery bank anyway, as it allows me to off-load my footage away from the car. The battery bank does not need a fixed spot in my car. It's portable; it also is not 4 x bigger than a 2000w inverter. Trust me, I have my reasons for my set-up that does not mean it's the right set-up for you, but for me, it is at the present time.

  • @stuartmanuell4207
    @stuartmanuell4207 11 місяців тому

    After installing the total cost of that set up from scratch would be approaching 5k!
    I get it that its a conventional set up to be reliable but I think I really appreciated that as a UA-cam channel that you tried the dcs which wasn't conventional.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +1

      Including inverter, DCDC, etc. Yes, probably around that, if it lasts for the remaining years of the car without hassle worth it for me.

    • @stuartmanuell4207
      @stuartmanuell4207 11 місяців тому +1

      I edited my initial comment ​@@AlloffroadAu

    • @stuartmanuell4207
      @stuartmanuell4207 11 місяців тому

      ​@@AlloffroadAudid the dcs de-rate their charge current when they got warm under the bonnet?

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +1

      No, depending on the SOC of the batteries, they would take whatever alternator provided.

    • @stuartmanuell4207
      @stuartmanuell4207 11 місяців тому +2

      @@AlloffroadAu no wonder they failed early

  • @AndrewCharter-x1y
    @AndrewCharter-x1y 10 місяців тому +1

    My god!🤦‍♂️ Whoever u get your electrical information from, I think u need to find a better source. The charge current for a battery is determined by the battery, not the charger! If u have a 50A charger, that just means 50A is it’s max output. The battery is only taking what it wants. If you’re only getting 30A of charge, that’s because the battery & charger r doing exactly what they should be doing.🙄

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  10 місяців тому +5

      lol maybe don't comment if you don't know. The battery can take 130a continuous charge current and the charger de-rated because it reached 60c operating temperature as per manual and not because the battery did not accept 50a charge (btw for a good LiFePo4 battery 50a charging is nothing)

  • @666dualsport
    @666dualsport 3 місяці тому

    stuff dcs and their crap

  • @thelonewolf666
    @thelonewolf666 4 місяці тому

    why would you want lithium as a start battery????--- ridiculous

    • @tomtom1541
      @tomtom1541 4 місяці тому

      Regular lead acid is only good for a few hundred discharge cycles. Lithium should last longer, as that one is supposed to last 5000 cycles.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  4 місяці тому +1

      longevity, weight and space saving. Did work for weight and space saving but not longevity

  • @peterstone5356
    @peterstone5356 11 місяців тому +1

    Yet another redarc advertisement?

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  11 місяців тому +6

      yea, then every product I use and find good is an advertisement; I'm sharing my experience, good or bad. If you don't trust my stuff, that's ok. Just skip my videos.