You know Kabir, I'm a peaceful person, but my 1st reaction to some of these guys was that I wouldn't be upset if someone threw them into a woodchipper. I'm glad they are going to be kept away from the public for the rest of their lives. They are truly scary.
I know you didn't make the video, but that siren going over and over in the background drove me so insane that I contemplated becoming the newest member of this list
This is a very fascinating video Kabir. I think I may know why there are lots of people in gangs and committing heinous acts such as these. "A recent study was done on the increase in violent gang activity. In almost every case, each gang member had a similar attribute. Runaways, dropouts, kids on drugs, and seems in prison. That attribute is that most of them came from a fatherless home. To put it another way, when a father's absence, kids are five times more likely to commit suicide and abuse drugs, 20 times more likely to wind up in prison." Fathers truly are the foundation of the family, and without them to nurture them, more often than not, the child is lost to gangs and a life of crime.
You are in the US? I am a Canadian!!! Nice to talk to anyone in the USA!! Southern Ontario, small town on the shores of Lake Ontario. Port Hope and Cobourg!! We are only a few kilometres apart!! Port is the oldest!!🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦❤️🇺🇸🦋🤩🧸🥰
@@lauriemapplebeck1286 Hi Laurie! I'm in Texas, nice to talk to a Canadian. I've never been to Canada, but I would like to, I hear the people there are nice. My parents spent their honeymoon at Lake Louise. Some of my ancestors were from Eastern Canada. Hope you're doing well!
@@randalmayeux8880 hi my Texan Fiend!! So happy to hear from you! I am sick in the hospital right now. I am getting better slowly and looking forward to going home!! I live in a small town, on the shores of Lake Ontario, a long way from you! About and one hour and a quarter miles from Toronto (which is the capital of Ontario), going east on our Famous Highway, the Trans Canada. To make it easier for the provincial Police and us Canucks, they named it the 401, which only a small part of the Trans Canada Highway. The wifi here is terrible!! I can only get a couple of my apps. I will never complain as shitty wifi is better then no wifi. I am using an Apple IPad Pro!! I hope we can speak more but I am no professional on anything tecky!!! God Bless you and the whole of the US!! I have seen many states when I was younger, but never Texan! We two very fascinating countries!! Talk you again!
I have a degree in early childhood education and we read some of those studies. You know we also read that there has been a positive effect on children without a male role model to have a male teacher especially in early childhood but it's a field men rarely go in.
Gangs are a weird thing especially now with social media. In the past you were quite literally born and groomed into a gang, you grew up on a block where everyone was banging the same thing and was ready for you to do the same. Nowadays it’s more schools and overall areas instead of blocks and neighborhoods so you have kids from a middle area going out of there way to hang in the worst parts of town because that’s where the friends are.
"It starts in the home. If the father is not in the home, the boy will find a father in the streets. I saw it in my generation and every generation before me, and every one ever since. If the streets raise you, then the judge becomes your mother and prison becomes your home.” -Denzel Washington
My personal belief is that a lot of these are caused by broken families. If young men don't have a family at home they'll find one on the street, Gangs become their brothers and sisters, the judge becomes their father and prison is home.
In America you have a high chance of being wrongfully convicted, cops have a habit to raid the wrong homes and planting evidence to cover up their misconducts.
Blaming the actions of those who become involved in these types of activities on the lack of a father figure requires you to ignore the fact that there are many more that come from fatherless homes that do NOT get involved in gang activities. There are many things that put people on these paths and each person has a unique set of circumstances.
I think gangs are often in very poor and dangerous areas. We learn more and more that trauma / violence and poverty are generationaly/ passed down. Its easy to say someone wants easy money or is just a bad person. Im sure there are those people also. But we cannot forget the circumstances people grow up in and live in. Or the lack of possibilities they have in life, the unfairness, anger and hopelesness entire communities feel, everywehre around the world. I think looking in to it deeper and seeing this not just as local problems a society can and must change to give all the same chances and break these cycles. ☮❤
Most gang members don't expect to live past 25, come from fatherless homes, and were not taught impulse control. Also, peer pressure, and quest to be seen as the toughest man on the street begets heinous actions. Yes, evil is out there, Kabir. I wonder how police, ER docs and nurses, detectives, etc raise kids knowing what's really out there.
I think growing up without strong examples of positive and constructive fathers or mentors has a lot to do with kids joining gangs. Also, some may reason that if they join a gang, they and their families won't be targets. I don't know if the "Scared Straight" programs had much effect on troubled youth here in the states.
People that offend over and over shouldn't really be surprised when they get a harsh sentence. Especially since by the time you get to sentencing, you have already been found guilty.
You asked how the criminal found out the identities of witnesses and killed them. In South Africa as well as other countries the names of prosecution witnesses are required to be given to the defendant's attorneys so the lawyers can prepare an adequate defense. In the United States if information is withheld from the defense it can result in a mistrial and the defendant can walk away with no penalty. The prosecution can also be sentenced to prison for misconduct for not giving all information to the defense attorneys. In the South Africa case the attorney probably give the information to the criminal who used the info to, ill the witnesses.
Why do people join gangs ? Socioeconomics, Protection from other ethnic gangs, and a sense of belonging. This phenomenon exist in every place on this earth. There are gangs in London, Mumbai, New York, Paris, Jakarta, and you name it.
No fathers in the home, mothers working 2 jobs, protection in a neighborhood that has gangs, too much unstructured time on their hands. Combine any 2-3 of those things and gang culture thrives. Fix #1 so you don't have #2 and #4 and the likelihood of your kid going into a gang decreases. Strong, involved (non gangmember) fathers is the key. Let your kid know that he/she has more to fear from you, get them involved in after school activities and do your best to be there at the activities and at home at night, If you can be. Raising kids is hard work and we're all just doing our best, but it's worth it. Also, let them know that you love them. If my son ever came home with a neck tattoo, I'll assume that he's already making bad choices.
“INTERNAL DEFENSE MECHANISMS “ These defense mechanisms are supposed to help us to stay away from doing risky things or bad things because of the possible consequences. Most of these people no longer have those inner defenses. (( I spent 12 years in prison myself)).
From what I understand joining a gang is like joining a family, but they must be beaten down by other members of the gang they jion...if the survive the beating which is over seen by a high ranking member of the gang...or sometimes the gang decides they need a fresh baby face to be part of the gang and coerce the Newby into going through the ritual beatdown in order to save either younger siblings, or even their parents, or grandparents from such a beatdown. But mostly it is from children from broke households...single parent families.
I feel pity and bad for young people who end up in gangs. They have no good dads or God in their lives and end up without hope. If those gang members from south Africa pulled that in America, they would get death or life without parole. And end up in a Supermax prison.
Thank God none of my family members or friends ever belonged to a gang… I am a 77 year-old woman…and I would have no problem killing somebody who threatened or physically harmed any of the people I love…
A sh1t family life would be my guess as to why most join gangs. The REAL gangs anyway. Parents are addicts, parents are gang members, parents are in prison, etc. Lots of reasons.
Understand their upbringing. Gang members that grow up to be leaders in the USA grow up in this gang culture from birth. What you and me see as horrible they see as COST OF DOING BUSINESS. They dont know what remorse is once they hit their late teens and early 20s. smh
Don’t try and understand other people’s crazy. It’s a exercise in futility. I just see them as immature adult children who react violently when they want something and don’t get it or want to do something and don’t get their way. Since they are unable or unwilling to grow up they will always have to held in day care.
I’ve been to jail and it isn’t as bad as you think it is especially if your the leader of a gang than it’s even less bad, plus it all just depends on various different factors whether the jail will be bad or not I would say most jails are okay
05:00 I thought prisoners got one phone call per week. How on earth did he manage 30,000 calls?!? That's more than some businesses make.
Don't think the narrarator said official. Probably on snuck in cell phones and found after the calls.
You know Kabir, I'm a peaceful person, but my 1st reaction to some of these guys was that I wouldn't be upset if someone threw them into a woodchipper. I'm glad they are going to be kept away from the public for the rest of their lives. They are truly scary.
I'm never surprised by what people do anymore
I know you didn't make the video, but that siren going over and over in the background drove me so insane that I contemplated becoming the newest member of this list
This is a very fascinating video Kabir. I think I may know why there are lots of people in gangs and committing heinous acts such as these.
"A recent study was done on the increase in violent gang activity. In almost every case, each gang member had a similar attribute. Runaways, dropouts, kids on drugs, and seems in prison. That attribute is that most of them came from a fatherless home. To put it another way, when a father's absence, kids are five times more likely to commit suicide and abuse drugs, 20 times more likely to wind up in prison."
Fathers truly are the foundation of the family, and without them to nurture them, more often than not, the child is lost to gangs and a life of crime.
You are in the US? I am a Canadian!!! Nice to talk to anyone in the USA!! Southern Ontario, small town on the shores of Lake Ontario. Port Hope and Cobourg!! We are only a few kilometres apart!! Port is the oldest!!🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦❤️🇺🇸🦋🤩🧸🥰
@@lauriemapplebeck1286 Hi Laurie! I'm in Texas, nice to talk to a Canadian. I've never been to Canada, but I would like to, I hear the people there are nice. My parents spent their honeymoon at Lake Louise. Some of my ancestors were from Eastern Canada. Hope you're doing well!
@@randalmayeux8880 hi my Texan Fiend!! So happy to hear from you! I am sick in the hospital right now. I am getting better slowly and looking forward to going home!! I live in a small town, on the shores of Lake Ontario, a long way from you! About and one hour and a quarter miles from Toronto (which is the capital of Ontario), going east on our Famous Highway, the Trans Canada. To make it easier for the provincial Police and us Canucks, they named it the 401, which only a small part of the Trans Canada Highway. The wifi here is terrible!! I can only get a couple of my apps. I will never complain as shitty wifi is better then no wifi. I am using an Apple IPad Pro!! I hope we can speak more but I am no professional on anything tecky!!! God Bless you and the whole of the US!! I have seen many states when I was younger, but never Texan! We two very fascinating countries!! Talk you again!
I have a degree in early childhood education and we read some of those studies. You know we also read that there has been a positive effect on children without a male role model to have a male teacher especially in early childhood but it's a field men rarely go in.
Gangs are a weird thing especially now with social media. In the past you were quite literally born and groomed into a gang, you grew up on a block where everyone was banging the same thing and was ready for you to do the same. Nowadays it’s more schools and overall areas instead of blocks and neighborhoods so you have kids from a middle area going out of there way to hang in the worst parts of town because that’s where the friends are.
Back in the day students from University of Southern California used to hangout in Pico Union for drugs and thrills.
"It starts in the home. If the father is not in the home, the boy will find a father in the streets. I saw it in my generation and every generation before me, and every one ever since. If the streets raise you, then the judge becomes your mother and prison becomes your home.” -Denzel Washington
My personal belief is that a lot of these are caused by broken families. If young men don't have a family at home they'll find one on the street, Gangs become their brothers and sisters, the judge becomes their father and prison is home.
This is the reason that I totally believe and support the death penalty. Lethal injection is too mild.
You and I will never go to jail!! Do you know why!! We do not have Criminal Minds!! Thank God!!🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🙏🏼🇬🇧🇬🇧🙏🏼🙏🏼
Never say never people are wrongfully convicted all the time.
@@SMOOVKILL1
Very true.
@jeffking4176
In America you have a high chance of being wrongfully convicted, cops have a habit to raid the wrong homes and planting evidence to cover up their misconducts.
What dovyou mean? In the very near future having the " wrong" opinion on a plethora of issues will likely get you locked up.
I agree with you, Karbir, with all my heart!! Why, how, why,!!
Hi Laurie I was just reading your message and was interrupted and couldn't get the page back. Tuesday 10:30a.m. Randal
John Douglas wrote in one of his books that an irrational mind can't give rational answers (I'm paraphrasing).
Blaming the actions of those who become involved in these types of activities on the lack of a father figure requires you to ignore the fact that there are many more that come from fatherless homes that do NOT get involved in gang activities. There are many things that put people on these paths and each person has a unique set of circumstances.
I think gangs are often in very poor and dangerous areas. We learn more and more that trauma / violence and poverty are generationaly/ passed down. Its easy to say someone wants easy money or is just a bad person. Im sure there are those people also. But we cannot forget the circumstances people grow up in and live in. Or the lack of possibilities they have in life, the unfairness, anger and hopelesness entire communities feel, everywehre around the world. I think looking in to it deeper and seeing this not just as local problems a society can and must change to give all the same chances and break these cycles. ☮❤
if all these gang members are sent to same prison, then that is idiocity
Most gang members don't expect to live past 25, come from fatherless homes, and were not taught impulse control. Also, peer pressure, and quest to be seen as the toughest man on the street begets heinous actions.
Yes, evil is out there, Kabir. I wonder how police, ER docs and nurses, detectives, etc
raise kids knowing what's really out there.
I think growing up without strong examples of positive and constructive fathers or mentors has a lot to do with kids joining gangs. Also, some may reason that if they join a gang, they and their families won't be targets. I don't know if the "Scared Straight" programs had much effect on troubled youth here in the states.
Everyone knows ahead of time what causes it.
It is called Greed or being Greedy, Kabir!!!🇨🇦🇨🇦❤️🇬🇧🇬🇧🙏🏼
Psychopaths lacks empathy ergo zero remorse. Psychopath’s are born while Sociopaths are learned behaviors.
People that offend over and over shouldn't really be surprised when they get a harsh sentence. Especially since by the time you get to sentencing, you have already been found guilty.
They should have gotten the electric chair. This is heinous and none of these monsters deserve to breathe at all. ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
What boils down to... Everybody breaks in prison
Sharing the cell on the day they have burritos.
Physco's don't have any impathy
Absolutely right. ...and I refuse to believe this is their first court cases. They should never have been allowed to breathe air.
I can't speak for everyone, but I joined the neighborhood gang for the potato salad and collards. I once shot a man over a deviled eggs recipe.
I don’t buy 30k phone calls. At 3 min per call, thats 1500 hrs talk time, not including dial/hang up time.
You asked how the criminal found out the identities of witnesses and killed them. In South Africa as well as other countries the names of prosecution witnesses are required to be given to the defendant's attorneys so the lawyers can prepare an adequate defense. In the United States if information is withheld from the defense it can result in a mistrial and the defendant can walk away with no penalty. The prosecution can also be sentenced to prison for misconduct for not giving all information to the defense attorneys. In the South Africa case the attorney probably give the information to the criminal who used the info to, ill the witnesses.
Why do people join gangs ? Socioeconomics, Protection from other ethnic gangs, and a sense of belonging. This phenomenon exist in every place on this earth. There are gangs in London, Mumbai, New York, Paris, Jakarta, and you name it.
These people do not show remorse because they are Evil and have no soul's. So, they're not capable of even having remorse
They don't have a choice. Join or leave the area.
These people look so smug as they’re being sentenced. Don’t drop the soap!
Some kids join gangs for "protection". Either join a gang or be a victim. There are plenty of people that don't value human life.
Massachusetts don't play with crime. If you're going to be a criminal in the states, don't do it near Boston lol.
No fathers in the home, mothers working 2 jobs, protection in a neighborhood that has gangs, too much unstructured time on their hands. Combine any 2-3 of those things and gang culture thrives. Fix #1 so you don't have #2 and #4 and the likelihood of your kid going into a gang decreases. Strong, involved (non gangmember) fathers is the key. Let your kid know that he/she has more to fear from you, get them involved in after school activities and do your best to be there at the activities and at home at night, If you can be. Raising kids is hard work and we're all just doing our best, but it's worth it. Also, let them know that you love them. If my son ever came home with a neck tattoo, I'll assume that he's already making bad choices.
Crazy 😢
A lot of people end up in gangs bc it's generational. When you are growing up, bad behavior is praised and going to juvie/prison is a badge of honor.
“INTERNAL DEFENSE MECHANISMS “
These defense mechanisms are supposed to help us to stay away from doing risky things or bad things because of the possible consequences.
Most of these people no longer have those inner defenses.
(( I spent 12 years in prison myself)).
From what I understand joining a gang is like joining a family, but they must be beaten down by other members of the gang they jion...if the survive the beating which is over seen by a high ranking member of the gang...or sometimes the gang decides they need a fresh baby face to be part of the gang and coerce the Newby into going through the ritual beatdown in order to save either younger siblings, or even their parents, or grandparents from such a beatdown. But mostly it is from children from broke households...single parent families.
Theres always a rat in the police department.
Just a little FYI, don’t steal the gun from your victim and keep it. 🤦🏼♀️
these kinda ppl should either get the death penalty or automatic159 sentence with no chance of parol.
Reseda is close to me.
Me too. Well kind of. I’m in Porter Ranch. It’s 6 miles away. I remember seeing that case on the news.
I feel pity and bad for young people who end up in gangs. They have no good dads or God in their lives and end up without hope. If those gang members from south Africa pulled that in America, they would get death or life without parole. And end up in a Supermax prison.
Every one I know has been part of a gang at 1 time. In prison the gangs are formed by race.
Thank God none of my family members or friends ever belonged to a gang…
I am a 77 year-old woman…and I would have no problem killing somebody who threatened or physically harmed any of the people I love…
Gang member, most of them, don’t have a father at home.,nor a father figure at church,etc. 9:00
A sh1t family life would be my guess as to why most join gangs. The REAL gangs anyway. Parents are addicts, parents are gang members, parents are in prison, etc. Lots of reasons.
Welcome to Chicago New York Los Angeles memphis Atlanta can keep going its happening ever day
Understand their upbringing. Gang members that grow up to be leaders in the USA grow up in this gang culture from birth. What you and me see as horrible they see as COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
They dont know what remorse is once they hit their late teens and early 20s. smh
Don’t try and understand other people’s crazy. It’s a exercise in futility. I just see them as immature adult children who react violently when they want something and don’t get it or want to do something and don’t get their way. Since they are unable or unwilling to grow up they will always have to held in day care.
😂😂😂
pete maravich
Do you read your comments??!!🇨🇦❤️🇬🇧
Kabir you should look for Back yard beat downs were people put up a fence in a circle and guys settle their differences with spectators.
I dont get it. Dont want to get it. Horrific.
I’ve been to jail and it isn’t as bad as you think it is especially if your the leader of a gang than it’s even less bad, plus it all just depends on various different factors whether the jail will be bad or not I would say most jails are okay
No.
Raise your expectations.
Just...No.
You’re, not the word “your”.
@@Wellch
Yeah, he needs to learn proper English!
That's why we need to shut down the southern border..we miss you Orange Menace from Missouri.......2024