"Bathory" and "The return" are 1st wave, "Under the sign of the black mark" started the 2nd wave so it belongs. "Blood, fire, death" started the 3rd wave. They certainly belong in that list.
Good list. Cradle and Dimmu last for me. I’m not a fan of these 2 bands at all. I’m glad you put Windir high. It’s truly an incredible band. They have some godlike melodies.
imo Ulver's later eras is even better than their black metal era, some absolute masterpieces. Shadows of the Sun is my favourite record of theirs, and Stone Angels might just be my favourite song of all time, what an experience that is
My favorite in this list would be Emperor. They were one of the first black metal bands I listened to and they simply have a flawless discography. My least favorite would be Immortal only because I can't stand the vocals.
Ooh this is a hard one to choose a favorite for. I have a few bands that are competing for the position. I certainly respect your choice of Windir enormously, it's a glorious band with a nearly perfect discography. For me, it would have to be something like... Favorite: Darkthrone, for the consistent quality, extremely influential BM albums and them still making good stuff to this day. S tier: Burzum, Windir, Marduk, Immortal, Rotting Christ. A tier: Dissection, Bathory, Enslaved, Samael. B tier: Mayhem (love them, but some albums are clunkers); Gorgoroth (same reason); Sacramentum, Borknagar, Emperor, Dimmu Borgir. C tier: Cradle of Filth (some amazing albums, both old and newest, but a bad period in the middle); Ulver, Satyricon, Dark Funeral. Least favorite: Carpathian Forest. Never cared for their sound really. A few other bands deserve to be on this list, especially Czech BM band Master's Hammer, Necrophobic, arguably Ancient (although only their first 2 are good), and Ukraine's Lucifugum (Nokturnal Mortum too but it's a bit of a stretch to call them Second Wave).
I don’t care about newer Satyricon too much, but I stan their classics and they’re in my S tier along with Enslaved, Emperor, Windir and Carpathian Forest. Favourite is a tie between Marduk and Summoning
With a band name like Ragnarok, I really really REALLY fucking wished they are the same leagues as mentioned. I really try to understand Windir and it probably didn't help I heard the swedish melodic greats, Ensiferum, Ulver, hell even Kvist before to see them fully appeal.
Out of the second wave movement my favorite is Darkthrone for sure. Love all their albums, soulside is a great death metal album, after that they have the classic black metal sound, then they have the blackened punk stuff that I love and now they’ve gone back to traditional black metal with a progressive edge
Since this is specifically a list of black metal bands and most of Ulver's discography isn't black metal, I think they should be judged on their first 3 albums only.
Wasn`t Bathory in the irst wave too? Well that disqualifies them:) I don`t support your hate against Satyricon. I really enjoy their later albums too. Great drum and guitarwork there. It`s hard to pick a favourite. It stands between Darkthrone, Emperor or Burzum. I don`t know and I don`t have to choose:) Rotting Christ maybe???
I think Rotting Christ is probably one of the best metal bands there. Problem is, they do not represent black metal properly, they are very experimental so I wouldn't put them on the top of any black metal tier list eventhough they are one of my favorite bands. Also, almost nobody puts Sargeist or Drudkh on any tier list, that's weird.
I'm not sure if these bands are second-wave or not, not sure it even matters because the music almost puts them in a genre all their own. Don't get me wrong, they're definitely Black Metal with extra sorrow and melancholy: Sargeist from Finland & Drowning the Light from Australia.
Do you know what the second wave is? The only bands listed here that I'd personally argue aren't 2nd wave are Bathory and Samael (who came late 1st wave/early 2nd so I could be convinced either way). Not trying to attack you or anything but most people would agree nearly all these bands had releases during the 2nd wave (i.e roughly '92 - '99)
Didn’t make the list myself just using it so I’m not sure why Bathory is on it either 🧌
"Bathory" and "The return" are 1st wave, "Under the sign of the black mark" started the 2nd wave so it belongs. "Blood, fire, death" started the 3rd wave. They certainly belong in that list.
gigantic W for the Windir placement, they were one of the first bands to get me into black metal along with mgla and the album 1184 is a 10/10.
Hail, Questy. Fucking love that you put Windir at the top. That guy went out on top with a pristine discography.
Good list. Cradle and Dimmu last for me. I’m not a fan of these 2 bands at all. I’m glad you put Windir high. It’s truly an incredible band. They have some godlike melodies.
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@@Katechon1349 Who cares if he dislikes CoF and DB. I like those bands, but to each his own. Their sound isn't for everyone.
imo Ulver's later eras is even better than their black metal era, some absolute masterpieces. Shadows of the Sun is my favourite record of theirs, and Stone Angels might just be my favourite song of all time, what an experience that is
My favorite in this list would be Emperor. They were one of the first black metal bands I listened to and they simply have a flawless discography. My least favorite would be Immortal only because I can't stand the vocals.
Is this game of thrones?
What a twist at the end
Nice video 👀
Ooh this is a hard one to choose a favorite for. I have a few bands that are competing for the position. I certainly respect your choice of Windir enormously, it's a glorious band with a nearly perfect discography.
For me, it would have to be something like...
Favorite: Darkthrone, for the consistent quality, extremely influential BM albums and them still making good stuff to this day.
S tier: Burzum, Windir, Marduk, Immortal, Rotting Christ.
A tier: Dissection, Bathory, Enslaved, Samael.
B tier: Mayhem (love them, but some albums are clunkers); Gorgoroth (same reason); Sacramentum, Borknagar, Emperor, Dimmu Borgir.
C tier: Cradle of Filth (some amazing albums, both old and newest, but a bad period in the middle); Ulver, Satyricon, Dark Funeral.
Least favorite: Carpathian Forest. Never cared for their sound really.
A few other bands deserve to be on this list, especially Czech BM band Master's Hammer, Necrophobic, arguably Ancient (although only their first 2 are good), and Ukraine's Lucifugum (Nokturnal Mortum too but it's a bit of a stretch to call them Second Wave).
What are your favorite songs by Rotting Christ? Top 15 or 10 if you don't mind
Love you bro keep it up
Good discussion. So hard to rank these bands.
Agree on Windir. They are only behind Drudkh for me for all BM.
I don’t care about newer Satyricon too much, but I stan their classics and they’re in my S tier along with Enslaved, Emperor, Windir and Carpathian Forest. Favourite is a tie between Marduk and Summoning
Marduk even has a dance song. You guys probably know which one I'm talking about.
With a band name like Ragnarok, I really really REALLY fucking wished they are the same leagues as mentioned.
I really try to understand Windir and it probably didn't help I heard the swedish melodic greats, Ensiferum, Ulver, hell even Kvist before to see them fully appeal.
Out of the second wave movement my favorite is Darkthrone for sure. Love all their albums, soulside is a great death metal album, after that they have the classic black metal sound, then they have the blackened punk stuff that I love and now they’ve gone back to traditional black metal with a progressive edge
I agree 100%
Why do you hate Ulver? just kidding. ;) cool video as always!
Since this is specifically a list of black metal bands and most of Ulver's discography isn't black metal, I think they should be judged on their first 3 albums only.
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I agree so hard, i have the same three Favorites!
Wasn`t Bathory in the irst wave too? Well that disqualifies them:) I don`t support your hate against Satyricon. I really enjoy their later albums too. Great drum and guitarwork there. It`s hard to pick a favourite. It stands between Darkthrone, Emperor or Burzum. I don`t know and I don`t have to choose:) Rotting Christ maybe???
I think Rotting Christ is probably one of the best metal bands there. Problem is, they do not represent black metal properly, they are very experimental so I wouldn't put them on the top of any black metal tier list eventhough they are one of my favorite bands. Also, almost nobody puts Sargeist or Drudkh on any tier list, that's weird.
People who think Cradle of Filth is black metal lol. Let me guess Pantera is thrash metal right?
Satanic Warmaster is favourite
Bathory actually isn't 2nd wave Black Metal, if I'm not mistaken.
No summoning ?
Would you ever do a 1349 ranking ?
Yeah in the future will be doing that
21. Carpathian forest
20. Gorgoroth
19. Ulver
18. Dark funeral
17. Sacramentum
16. Samael
15. Mayhem
14. Satyricon
13. Marduk
12. Burzum
11. Darkthrone
10. Dimmu borgir
9. Enslaved
8. Borknagar
7. Windir
6. Bathory
5. Dissection
4. Immortal
3. Rotting christ
2. Cradle of filth
1. Emperor
Super accurate ranking. Although I wouldn't put Cradle so high personally.
Do tier list for metal or any thing for that site does it cost money ?
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Who ever made this list forgot behemoth not my favorite but a pretty good and very important for the second wave
Nokturnal Mortum are my favourite if they count.
They’d be S tier easy for me as well
Satyricon demo’s suck, but the first 3 albums are elite
Rotting Christ is my favorite. Only the last couple albums are weak.
What are your favorite songs by Rotting Christ? Top 15 or 10 if you don't mind
Burzum by far the best 2nd wave
Bathory is 1st wave!!
Favorite: Darkthrone
Least Favorite: Cradle
Bathory birthed the 1st, the 2nd, and the 3rd wave
I'll give him a pass on Cradle as he's British and therefore at a cultural disadvantage
I'm not sure if these bands are second-wave or not, not sure it even matters because the music almost puts them in a genre all their own. Don't get me wrong, they're definitely Black Metal with extra sorrow and melancholy: Sargeist from Finland & Drowning the Light from Australia.
Do you know what the second wave is? The only bands listed here that I'd personally argue aren't 2nd wave are Bathory and Samael (who came late 1st wave/early 2nd so I could be convinced either way). Not trying to attack you or anything but most people would agree nearly all these bands had releases during the 2nd wave (i.e roughly '92 - '99)
21. Darkthrone (sorry, don´t like it)
20. Cradle of filth
19. Burzum
18. Dark funeral
17. Sacramentum
16. Mayhem
15. Samael
14. Borknagar
13. Bathory
12. Ulver
11. Carpathian forest
10. Dimmu borgir
9. Gorgoroth
8. Satyricon
7. Windir
6. Rotting christ
5. Emperor
4. Enslaved
3. Immortal
2. Marduk
1. Dissection
What are your favorite songs by Carpathian Forest? Top 15 or 10 if you don't mind
Too easy. Everything goes in F tier for this genre.
Not only wrong, but also hilarious you came just to hate
Mayhem kinda blow
Gutalax on top
Mayhem is shit, they have one good album. Vargs vision for bm was superior to euronymous.
I do agree that Burzum is a lot better than Mayhem.
But Mayhem shit? Naaahhhh, just mediocre. Personally Ordo is my favourite of their albums.