she's only fun to use against winter soldier in rol. everywhere else she feels too complex if you know what I mean. these constant intercepts, having to always have your opponent on the wall, always punishing specials and so on... she's just too relient on the opponent to have fun with, at least for me
I think one part of her kit failing that you're missing is that her weak shocks just fall off during her rotation. I think the mine triggers should pause the shocks so you actually have a chance to build to a big sp2. I'd also much prefer if her special intercept was like Herc instead of this super risky stuff
Yeah she def needs a way to refresh them and keep adding on I don't think those shocks should have a stack limit it should be 50 regular ones and 50 critical shocks like Shuri has and shed be great plus her base damage is soo damn low hope we get better champs moving foward.
Good feedback. I don’t think it’s quite enough tho. Someone below mentioned a way to pause the shocks. Imo pausing them along with MSD ideas and a damage increase sounds solid.
Building off the disintegration idea, I think instead of shocks maybe the traps should have a power burn mechanic. It can start off as small power drains that drain like 1-2% max power per trap, and then during the sp2, it turns into a 20% power burn per trap that deals damage based off the number of disintegrations.
Besides the thing u add to make her better i also think that they need to increase critical desintegration (shocks) significantly more, id say like up to a 250-300%, thatd make better DOT at the end of the ramp up
She does instant damage to shock immune champs in lieu of applying a shock debuff. I think she just needs a tune up in her damage output and she's good to go
They can also allow special intercept to trigger her damage as well. Your 2 main points are solid. Shock shouldn’t be her thing, I like the disintegration but with combat power reduction. The AI manipulation kit is also great. Just that I’m not a fun of AI manipulation status in the game, as they don’t work imo. There’s no clarity, data or comparison on that. For instance, taunt tells you a percentage chance an opponent will use specials. We don’t have any measurements for infuriate and intimidate.
Turning her shocks into disintegration sounds like such a cool idea but it’s definitely not going to happen because that’s not how the rebalance program works sadly. Rebalance program is for taking what these champions already have and making them better, not for removing it and giving them new abilities. if they were to go down the path of reducing combat power rate, they would just add to her shocks saying something “each shock reduces combat power rate by ___% max stacks ___”. I always thought just adding “sp2 has increased attack her shock on the opponent” would fix most of her damage problems but I agree with point 2. One thing I don’t see enough people talk about his her heavy disorient. I feel like it should follow the same rules as her mines. Breaks her flow when you have to stop what your doing to heavy twice in a row to put them back on.
@@rodrigoesteves6779 something similar to this was brought up in a DLL stream. They said NTW should have been incinerate immunity because she deals incinerate damage. I said “ rebalance is for taking the kit they already have and making it smoother, not for giving new and extra abilities” DLL then said something a long the lines of “we need to put what blackhole said on a billboard” if you don’t know who DLL is he works for Kabam. So if anyone knows how the rebalance program works it would be him. So I’m like 90% sure what I said was correct
My first and only titan pull after spending $150 on an Odin for the shards (and units ofc), I like her animations or putting her on bgs defence and that it.
She needs alot if opponent throws special in corner and goes over your Mines they take no damage only way they take damage is they have to walk over them she just needs more consistent damage and once ramped needs to stay ramped her ramp falls off so fast its kinda sad
I get what you are saying about the shock damage... but you clearly don't understand that there are a few science champs that are shock immune. Photon is not one of them. Silver Sable is honestly the answer to Photon. Yes, she needs a bit of a buff, but I promise, she is a great counter for any defender that can go untouchable.
MSD this is awesome let's hope they listen. I wish Sable had more DOT selection in Pre-fight menu to be way more versatile as she is with Sable international technology. DOT I'd give Sable Pre-fight disintegration, 🔥 and poison to give her some more versatility. The AI manipulation is extremely important.
Idk why kabam has kinda been going Backwards in damage this Year for 2024 Attackers except For Prowler and NegaSonic even The Leader his damage doesn't look great idk why new 7* are getting such low base damage and low special damage. I feel like we're going back not moving Foward 😅
@@KokkaOral yea. I got her twice Lucklily and got her at r2. Gotta learn her though. She’s a safe champ against skill. I just haven’t figured out the fastest rotation yet
She’s actually kind of fun to use, hope they tune her up!
she's only fun to use against winter soldier in rol. everywhere else she feels too complex if you know what I mean. these constant intercepts, having to always have your opponent on the wall, always punishing specials and so on... she's just too relient on the opponent to have fun with, at least for me
Agreed, but the payoff has to be much higher
@@dexter2898 i won’t lie, that is the only fight i tested her on lmao
Sable mine, stable mind 😅
I think one part of her kit failing that you're missing is that her weak shocks just fall off during her rotation. I think the mine triggers should pause the shocks so you actually have a chance to build to a big sp2. I'd also much prefer if her special intercept was like Herc instead of this super risky stuff
Yeah she def needs a way to refresh them and keep adding on I don't think those shocks should have a stack limit it should be 50 regular ones and 50 critical shocks like Shuri has and shed be great plus her base damage is soo damn low hope we get better champs moving foward.
I'll add energize on her sp1, so you can ramp up faster and place mines quicker
im hoping all this has been fed back to the devs at Kabam. really well thought out and needs to be considered.
Got a 7*. Used her once in bg. It was a joke. I haven’t used her since
She needs a Shuri level buff. Make her shocks more potent, a way to refresh them, add a taunt, etc.
Love this vid ❤
Kraven crawled so Zemo can walk (and run!). Maybe Sable is the same way for the next skill champ ☹️
I feel like she's a pre buff shuri right now.. A similar tune up can be a game changer for her.. Consistent long form damage and short form bursts too
Good feedback. I don’t think it’s quite enough tho. Someone below mentioned a way to pause the shocks. Imo pausing them along with MSD ideas and a damage increase sounds solid.
Building off the disintegration idea, I think instead of shocks maybe the traps should have a power burn mechanic. It can start off as small power drains that drain like 1-2% max power per trap, and then during the sp2, it turns into a 20% power burn per trap that deals damage based off the number of disintegrations.
I mean, the idea is good but I feel like it’s more fitting for a tech champ than a skill one.
That fits more into a tech rather than a skill champ
I was so sad when I finally opened a Titan and she showed up. Especially when I’ve only ever open 2 since titans were a thing.
That ability accuracy reduction would be great!
Pulled her a 7 star, was so disappointed that again I get a champ from
Titan crystals I cannot use
She’s good for winter soldier in realm of legends that’s it!
For real I did all of this spring of sorrow for a Titan crystal and got her. Arguably one of the worst pulls. Really disappointing
Besides the thing u add to make her better i also think that they need to increase critical desintegration (shocks) significantly more, id say like up to a 250-300%, thatd make better DOT at the end of the ramp up
Giving her buffs on her sig ability is also very dumb lol
Also add life model decoy to Silver Sable
Can’t wait for the day where we get champs designed by MSD
She does instant damage to shock immune champs in lieu of applying a shock debuff. I think she just needs a tune up in her damage output and she's good to go
They can also allow special intercept to trigger her damage as well. Your 2 main points are solid. Shock shouldn’t be her thing, I like the disintegration but with combat power reduction. The AI manipulation kit is also great.
Just that I’m not a fun of AI manipulation status in the game, as they don’t work imo. There’s no clarity, data or comparison on that. For instance, taunt tells you a percentage chance an opponent will use specials. We don’t have any measurements for infuriate and intimidate.
I just pulled her out of a titan and I'm hard praying for that buff
I’m not
@@KokkaOral ok
Turning her shocks into disintegration sounds like such a cool idea but it’s definitely not going to happen because that’s not how the rebalance program works sadly. Rebalance program is for taking what these champions already have and making them better, not for removing it and giving them new abilities.
if they were to go down the path of reducing combat power rate, they would just add to her shocks saying something “each shock reduces combat power rate by ___% max stacks ___”. I always thought just adding “sp2 has increased attack her shock on the opponent” would fix most of her damage problems but I agree with point 2.
One thing I don’t see enough people talk about his her heavy disorient. I feel like it should follow the same rules as her mines. Breaks her flow when you have to stop what your doing to heavy twice in a row to put them back on.
I'm not sure that rebalancing is only restrict to that
@@rodrigoesteves6779 something similar to this was brought up in a DLL stream. They said NTW should have been incinerate immunity because she deals incinerate damage. I said “ rebalance is for taking the kit they already have and making it smoother, not for giving new and extra abilities” DLL then said something a long the lines of “we need to put what blackhole said on a billboard” if you don’t know who DLL is he works for Kabam. So if anyone knows how the rebalance program works it would be him. So I’m like 90% sure what I said was correct
She needs more than some
I believe that she's just a fun champ to play she's not a crazy attacker or defender just a pure fun to play champ
L take bro... Not fun at all if u pulled her twice from titans
@@hamzarao1583 well that's on you bro not my fault that you don't know how to have fun
Hey metalsonicbaby😮
On the one hand I’d love a rebuild since I have her as a 7*. However I guess they can’t bring out one banger after another right? Greetings
Not the worst thing in the world but definitely not bad 1:55 the word good doesn't even come to mind when talking about sable 😂😂😂
She's a bit underwhelming of a champion
I'd rather use shuri
Another thing if she started of with a sable mine in the corner it would help alot
Bence bi buff gelmesi lazım
I got her as a 7 star from titan.
I got negasonic and she’s way better 🎉
I pulled Sable from my SoS titan crystal... if your ideas go into her buff I'd rank 2 her right now 😂
Good vid I like the idea
Damn I just got useless this champs from my first ever titan , get her spin pass by bullseye 😢.
I regret taking her to R5, they better buff her😊
My first and only titan pull after spending $150 on an Odin for the shards (and units ofc), I like her animations or putting her on bgs defence and that it.
Did she do well on defense?
@@anthonydelrio2053 yes but only because she's new and people don't know how she works yet.
*SimpleSable
She needs alot if opponent throws special in corner and goes over your Mines they take no damage only way they take damage is they have to walk over them she just needs more consistent damage and once ramped needs to stay ramped her ramp falls off so fast its kinda sad
I get what you are saying about the shock damage... but you clearly don't understand that there are a few science champs that are shock immune. Photon is not one of them. Silver Sable is honestly the answer to Photon. Yes, she needs a bit of a buff, but I promise, she is a great counter for any defender that can go untouchable.
She needs way more damage and her critical shocks need to last longer, she cannot reach her sp3 to pause them unless you’re fighting perfect AI.
she can fix me
I think that she could use hercules immortality, dooms doom cicle and perhaps cgrs sp2 burst type of dmg and just then she might be good
Who else is here from bad titan luck😅
My first titan 😢
Same :) just pulled her
MSD this is awesome let's hope they listen. I wish Sable had more DOT selection in Pre-fight menu to be way more versatile as she is with Sable international technology. DOT I'd give Sable Pre-fight disintegration, 🔥 and poison to give her some more versatility. The AI manipulation is extremely important.
Nothing you can do to save silver disable
I got her from my last titan :/
She Needs More Utility
Having champs kits rely on AI (cough Gladiator cough) cooperation is just a TERRIBLE idea. Come on champ designers, let’s get a clue!
Idk why kabam has kinda been going Backwards in damage this Year for 2024 Attackers except For Prowler and NegaSonic even The Leader his damage doesn't look great idk why new 7* are getting such low base damage and low special damage. I feel like we're going back not moving Foward 😅
Leader reminds me of Onslaught, designed to be a defender, nevertheless, an excellent attacker and fantastic champion overall 😊
Her animations are also trash,kabam missed with this one smh
Got a 7*. Used her once in bg. It was a joke. I haven’t used her since
Nega sonic teenage warhead Better
@@KokkaOral yea. I got her twice Lucklily and got her at r2. Gotta learn her though. She’s a safe champ against skill. I just haven’t figured out the fastest rotation yet