Stop Motion Review 105 - Siege Astrotrain
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- An epic train, an amazing shuttle, what's not to love about the voyager sized Leader Class figure!
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Imagine a third party parts kit that gives the shuttle the external fuel tank, RS-25 engines, and the solid rocket boosters
The "Supreme Class Mirage" bit made me chuckle.
I got noticed!
And I'm not editing because that kills hearts.
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“It’s always the same. We watch your videos to fund your collections, and you get to have all the fun!”
(This is a joke, referencing one of Astrotrain’s lines. Congrats on finding this so early!)
Finding it so early? This video was made three months ago and it's still not out
Now 9 months
Sir Topham Hat: Astrotrain! You cause nothing but confusion and delay.
Astrotrain: It was worth it.
LOOOOOOOOOL
Thats funny
STH:-_- was it
@@delawarefurret Astrotrain: In comparison to Big World Big Adventures, my deeds here were NOTHING!
STH:fair enough.
My biggest gripe about his classing is that unlike Magnus/Galaxy Prime's full trailers that fully transform into full body armor that fully integrates into the full(I think you get my point) robot or Shockwave's "armor" that while not very well implemented into robot mode is needed for the truly kickass spaceship mode, the accessories that jack up Astrotrain to leader class are barely integrated into any of his 3 modes, the figure works perfectly fine without all of them, he could have perfectly been sold as a voyager figure.
This is the one thing I've noticed ever since I started collecting the siege war for cybertron figures they are masterpiece style transformers based on posebility and details in a smaller voyager class size. So I'm glad I started collecting this line of figures cause A, it's figures based on the g1 style cartoon and B, I can buy them at affordable prices at my local target or walmat besides buying the official takara masterpiece figures so I'm glad that I finally got the transformers toy line I deserve cause I've been a hardcore fan of the series ever since the g1 cartoon and the one thing I've always wished for was the g1 accurate characters remade for a new generation but without the super high prices of the takara figures.
Exactly the same summary of the line as I have. Siege Transformers are like the Transformers I wanted as a kid.
@@Khorzho wow great minds think alike. I'm glad we both got what we wanted.
I'm with everyone else in here. Think about how long it's going to take masterpiece to make ALL the G1 cartoon chacracters! (another 30+years at this rate!💯👎). Us mainline collectors will have them in a few years!💯👍🏻
@@great159 exactly good on ya for helping my point get across
It’s like what Thew said in his Earthrise Prime video. Masterpiece style figures at super market prices
When I get this guy I am totally gonna hind him somewhere on my HO scale layout
69 likes? Nice
@@tflego98 I made it backwards :)
@@mylesfestG1 Ecin ?sekil 96
What does HO mean
@@LCollects “half O” it’s a model train scale
On the size: and weight I compared my Combiner Wars and Siege Ultra Magnuses. The siege figure was heavier, all accessories included for both. I compared Thrilling 30 Springer and Siege Springer, same exact weight. So Astrotrain may very well have density on his side. Though the height still is an annoyance.
I always consider that the Siege figures are too heavy.
If you compare them older figures the older figures of the same characters have an easier weight to them and are taller.
Love the “ get of my lawn” bit at 10:01
Me too.
Fun fact!: The Thomas and Friends character Hiro is also a D-51 steam locomotive like Astrotrain!
i need this astrotrain now to customize to go with my knockoff thomas transformer
I want to get a 2nd trackmaster hiro and make a Thomas and friends version of astrotrain
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Thomas and Friends transformer Edition
I kinda can see Astrotrain has 2-4-4-2 wheel arrangement or idk
I generally don't give a toss about scale, especially when it's something as egregious as Astrotrain... but even I'm scoffing at the size of the robot mode for the leader class price tag...
This is now normal. Scout/legends sized Earthrise Cliffjumper is priced as deluxe.
broadside is my reason why i don't bother with scale for transformers
ok but you do have to consider 3 things
1. the engineering is far more complex and the figure is much more solid than older leaders so of course he would cost the same
2. inflation and rising oil costs are a thing so hasbro and takara have to pick between solidity or size
3. astrotrain still comes with the coal car and the 5 weapons to compensate for his height and that combined with the main figure makes him weigh about as much as titians return overlord
Started with Astrotrain, and now (hopefully not) ending with him. Seems appropriate.
I always thought that some of those big leader class bots of a few years ago were almost too big. They didn’t feel like they scaled with deluxe or voyagers. Take the remould of the seekers from Jetfire in combiner wars. They looked great, but they would have been a better scale at voyager size. The seekers now look to be at a proper scale. Overall, I have been impressed with the more. Uniform attention to scale in the siege line. I’ve been less impressed at how they package seemingly voyage figures as so-called “Leader” size.
I wonder how things will shake out when we get really small deluxes like Cliffjumper (or dare I even say: a Bumblebee).
Keep up the great work. You’ve made my day.
I sorta felt during that time they were trying ti make MP stand ins for the cheaper market. PotP OP certainly felt like that, amd the CW jet remolds certainly fell in line with MP seeker scaling
@@TheLazyEyebrow I think you’re right about the masterpiece stand-in scale. CW Megatron was very much in that scale too.
BRAKES
I agree actually
@@TheLazyEyebrow Scottish accent: Hey, my name is Besnik. Call me Besi or Bes. And what are you doing!
13:07
Hasbro: Jerry write that down
i love your take on the new "leader" class figures
i feel like they shouldve just given him a single gun and devoted the rest of the plastic mass to his actual height. Besides making him more substantial, it would've also provided some extra room in his gun locker for other figures' accessories.
at least we gan give the extra weapons to earthrise wheeljack, earthrise sunstreaker, siege sideswipe and everyone else without a proper weapon
The weapons form into his big ionic displacer gun.
I know I'm late, but the reason why Siege Astrotrain is this height is because Siege and all the other figures in the war for Cybertron trilogy are going for a uniformed scale.
3:22 there's a crumb extra size comparison 🤣🤣🤣
Seeing the stubby front portion of the train mode is just putting me in mind of Day Out with Thomas 1999 where the model that the railway museum used was so much smaller than the coaches.
I probably will buy this Astrotrain to replace my Classic version and I hope they make an Octane (not Octone, seriously the name is pretty lame like Hasbro you're not even trying) to replace the classic one as well. As for Blitzwing I have the one with the weird shoulders assembly and junk, but I wouldn't be surprise to see him updated as well. Sometimes scale doesn't mean anything to me, but to an extend I mean I don't want Optimus Prime to be the same size as Omega Supreme. LOL
Octone is better then giving octane someone else's name
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 Am I missing something here what does actually mean?
@@Ezilla82 octone is a way better name than tankor
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 Yeah, Tankor is pretty generic name for a Transformer. Now, if they named Octane, Octone well that's fine I mean it's close to the actually name, but come on name him Octane Hasbro get that trademarked already.
@@Ezilla82 lego has octane trademarked, for a while now
1:22-1:23: it’s cool that siege astrotrain can fit on LEGO train tracks.👍👏
Barely haha
I really think this figure is cool 😎👍
9:42 My favorite poses are pointing and shooting, double pointing and shooting, crouching and shooting, running and shooting, flying and shooting, and also MORE pointing and shooting!
*sigh* I grew up on the Beast Wars sizing scale. Basic was small and $5, Deluxe was medium and $10, Mega was large and $15, and Ultra was OMG, THIS IS BIG!! and $20. Simple. Effective. This current scaling system... I feel like I should be yelling at kids to get off my lawn right alongside Astrotrain. 10:01
Hello love you Channel great minds think alike
@@anarchomando7707
Hey, thanks for watching. ;)
@@Bobsheaux senpei noticed me!
I'm happy i'm not the only person who noticed the downright ingenious way the feet form the dome in train mode. Also since we mentioned Thomas and Friends, there is character in that series named Hiro who is also based on the JNR D51 Class (Though the real life locomotive is *Narrow* Gauge while in both Transformers and Thomas and Friends the fictional versions are modified for Standard Gauge). I wonder if Lazy Eyebrow still has that Autobot Thomas from way back then?
Now there's something i didn't know, that being the narrow guage fact. As for the autobot thomas, i tried to keep it around just because of it's significance as the big thomas i played with as a kid, unfortunately there wasn't any room for it in the move and it needed to be sold
@@TheLazyEyebrow Perhaps he has now returned to the Island of Sodor ready to defend the Railways from Astrotrain and his Astroforce. On a side note, i'm totally down for a movieverse Astrotrain transforming into either a Union Pacific Big Boy or a Chesapeake & Ohio Allegheny. At least those locomotives are large enough to where you can sort of justify a space cruiser or shuttle type craft as a second alt. mode
Oh dang......just the thought of a 4-8-8-4 Astrotrain.....
So, Astrotrain can move on Lego tracks? Awesome!
For me the size is okay, i alway have a transformers on me (school,work,and vacation),so smaller is better.
(And astrotrain is my favorite)
Those issues with the height is why I've decided to hold on to my Takara Legends Astrotrain, along with me simply preferring the more compact robot mode. I feel many of us transformers fans have multiples of a character due to different designs rendering different elements better.
The Siege figures have also been really fun to paint. All the little details picked out in metallic paint has just been * chef kiss *
Pointing and shooting and my favourite POINTING AND SHOOTING LOL
Seeing this figure next the leader class jetfire makes me weep....
_"Starscream! This is Bad comedy"_
- Leonard Nimoy's Galvatron
Fun Fact: there was a scene in the final episode of siege that showed astrotrain as titan scale.
This is why i think that he actually has a kind of special ability when it comes to mass-shifting.
I did the maths for how tall astrotrain should be in one of my videos. He's certainly a big boy
"Union Pacific enters the chat"
On the other hand as a robot he’s no bigger than the other decepticons. Mass shifting screw everything in scales whiles lol
Hopefully a 3P company will make a thigh extension just like they did for Ultra Magnus, Ratchet and Ironhide.
I also skipped Siege Shockwave for the Cyber Battalion instead because I found he was too short!
Damn. Kinda feel bad for new leader figures looking at them like you showed. I knew it was bad,but HOT DAMN that is crazy to see.
The platform shoes bit made me laugh so hard, you have a good point
I’ve always saw Astrotrain as the big dumb bruiser who you’ll always see next to Megatron, who uses his size to hide his low intellect and prefers to wait for orders rather than make them to avoid thinking. He should always be one of the tallest cons in the collections, like a small Leader Class. Gotta say, I love the this figure, but he does a better job being alone than next to other figures due to size...
That sums up the whole review in one paragraph haha
Scottish accent: I love this, lad. I'm going to love this video! Congratulations.
I agree. Needs a bigger scale for this one. Like bit shorter then jetfire
Tbh Dx9 one is pretty cool with its built in train tender.
The launch pad is so awesome. I can’t get over how great it looks and how awesome the feature is!
Instructions have the other parts to the tender as a backpack but honestly I like to use it as a shield with the combined big gun for some interesting poses and action scenes
“Its not the size that matters its how you use it” ~a guy who said it in an old discord server which i used to be in~
This is my favorite Astro Train which reminds me of my old G1 Classic Astro Train my father gave me.
I know that I've said this before but......WHERE IS MY THUNDERCRACKER REVIEW!!!!!! (By the way this is just a joke but I would like to see a Thundercracker review)
I'd like to make it out like the coupling rods over the wheels are some kind of shielding apparatus that protects his wheels from enemy fire.
i appriciate that opening joke far more now then i would a few days ago seeing how i just watched the transformers movie for the first time. and it got a chuckle out of me.
now as for the figure he does look pretty good. so might be on my possible purchases on the after the chirstmas season ends right up there with the 3 pack refraktor ive been keeping an eye on at a store near me.
Wow I grew up with that movie I'm 14 you're really out of the loop
I miss the days of Transformers Cybertron Leader Class figures.
And scout and ultra class
Yeah dude! They were huge and built like tanks! The unicron trilogy overall had great designs and concepts, and the figures were rad! Also yeah, the scout and Ultra class gave more variation in figures and characters! I loved em!
Looks nice, but it's not what I'm looking for in terms of collecting. Titans Return Astrotrain will still be my go to figure in my collection.
I fanmoded the tender into a blast shield type barricade. Of course Astro stands too tall to hide behind it but it's great for Micromasters/Minicons, and two of his guns can be pegged onto it for the little guys to man for additional firepower.
I wasn't expecting this to be really big until I saw it on person on a toys r us shelf
The Omega Supreme one where the parts fly through space just cracks me up each time.
I get that everyone's complaining about the size of this "Leader"-class figure. He's way too small to warrant a $50 price tag, much like upgrade-less Siege Shockwave.
But my biggest issue is with the shuttle mode. The back looks unfinished. When I first saw this figure's train mode, I assumed the tender would collapse and wrap around the back to make the shuttle look more finished, but nope. The tender just becomes a nonessential waste of space. And while that was bound to happen with the robot mode, it didn't have to happen with the shuttle mode, too.
Oh man, that would've been awesome!
I think the tender is paying homage to the Episode "Triple Takeover" when he was showing off his so called "Astro Force" when he was dragging along a pile of Energon Cubes...Anyone else remember this?
3:03 I use that as astrotrains mouth for some reason. I find it funny.
Leader class became a thing back in 2013 NOT 10yrs ago! Astrotrain was meant to be part of Earth Rise wave 1. He's scale is fine. Remember the WFC trilogy is a REBOOT to CLASSICS/PRIME WAR TRILOGY so all chacracters BEFORE Siege will need to be remade for scale and most likely will be.💯🤓
I really want a review with all of the modifications you have done to the your Siege figures like you did the Combiner Wars Superion :D
Great Review!
All those exposed “guts” on the rear in shuttle mode do look pretty bad, but I’ve already seen 3rd party covers for it
I love watching these reviews.
Awesome fig, I understand the size complaints, but he needed to be overpriced, that’s how hasbro rolls.
I'm still enjoying this guy, can't wait for the Blitz-Wing
Hey Lazy Eyebrow! In March 2020, comes new siege figures WITH earth modes. One of them is ANOTHER Optimus Prime
I think Shockwave came out a bit better with the current leader thing, as his add-ons all integrate in both modes and feels kinda right. Extra arms and stuff seems like a mad-scientist thing. If Astrotrain's tender did something, like turn into a weapon or become some sort of armouring, I think it'd be a little stronger. Still, a handsome figure and if they released it with just the main figure and 1, maybe 2 guns as a voyager I think it'd be pretty popular.
The problem with "leader class" size is really disappointing.
Yea if there doing "leader class"
At least do it a 40$ or 35$ price point
You neglected to mention the tender can also form a 'backpack' of sorts in robot mode. Yes it is bulky, makes the figure top-heavy, and gets in the way, but I enjoy having a place to keep all parts in all modes.
Awesome review sir! Thanks for all the work!
Just discovered your channel and I choo-choo-choose to keep up to date with your channel and becoming a subscriber.
Astrotrain is correctly scaled. The cartoon scaling varied from frame to frame; someone analyzed a ton of shots from the cartoon, creating two scale charts that averaged every character from the G1 cartoons. This Astrotrain scales to that chart, but in the words of Bobby Skullface, "scale is in the eye of the beholder."
Astrotrain's tender is so high-quality 👌
I LOVE YOUR STOP MOTION REVIEW....!!! I missed it...Keep going...Nice work as always
I would have even appreciated if the tender could clip onto the back of the rocket to fill it out a little more. A little disappointing how empty the back looks but all in all I love this guy he's still so cool!!
I LOVE THIS FIGURE not
Beacause in my opinion, Astrotrain should be a towering behemoth, but this guy (who is being sold as a leader) is too short, I don' think anything justifies his leader price tag.
I bought Astrotrain on sale on Amazon. It’s pretty dope but...I wish he was commander class. Although ig he wouldn’t scale in bot mode.
Welcome back, Lazy! Nice to see another awesome review from you again! Keep at it!
Just found your channel, you've got a new subscriber. Very entertaining and cool. Nice job.
I feel like Leader Class is now a quality over size. I like that the leaders are now pretty much the same size. I’m glad that we don’t have an AstroTrain, Shockwave, and Ultra Magnus that are 5 times as tall as Optimus and Megatron. If you don’t like, good for you, spend your money on the things you like.
Don't get me wrong, i love the size if shockwave, but i think leader class is annoying. This guy I would've rathered the size if TR astro, but it's still a good figure
I just realised now that you don't need to buy Earthrise Astrotrain since Siege is already an Earth-style version
Earthrise is really a second chance for those who missed out on Siege.
@@trulythelongestnameinthisc8779 Next up, Kingdom is the same
Pretty sure a 3p will come up with some kit to make him taller like ultramagnus. Let's be honest the quality is miles better than previous leader classes.
Don’t forget generations brainstorm. That thing almost as tall as a combiner.
This looks like a fun figure to make a stop motion video with
I don't mind Shockwave because he has that armor gimmick that Leaders have been doing since Power of the Primes. With the armor on they are leader size, it's just the base robot that is too small and could have been cheaper without that gimmick.
That being said I wish they released Astrotrain without that extra chunk of plastic as a Voyager because his armor gimmick doesn't actually do anything. Oh you can give him platform shoes? Big freaking deal. At least Shockwave actually used the parts to give himself armor and while most people would be happy with just the base figure without the armor at a lower price point I thought it was totally worth the leader size for the same reason Orion Pax/Optimus Prime, Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime, Optimal Optimus Primal, Ultra Magnus, and Cybertron Optimus Prime were all worth the Price. In some of those cases the base figure was between Deluxe and Voyager scale but no one complained they weren't really Leader class figures because the armor actually did something.
In Shockwave's case the problem is more about the fact he never had that armor in the cartoon so people don't really care about it.
In Astrotrain's case the problem is even worse because he doesn't even actually have an armor upgrade mode. It's just shoes and a back pack. The extra chunk of plastic has more use for the vehicle modes than it does in robot mode but the thing is I don't really care about the launch platform so really the only thing it does is adds to the train mode and that isn't worth a Leader class price tag to me. I'd rather that wasn't there and he was released as a Voyager. If they completely redesigned that extra bit so it did more than just shoes and actually forms robot mode armor then I'd be OK with it but as it is it's a stupid useless extra chunk of plastic that doesn't add anything of substance to the figure to justify a leader class price.
Wonderful review, Christmas used to be all about gettin some Transformers, and spend the day happily in a galaxy far, far away. Actually I never got any good ones, since they were on to the Action Masters by the time I was old enough.
I see Jin Bao making their oversized nice KOs. They even make improvements on the original designs that makes you think how a KO company can improve on the real brand and still be high quality and economically accessible. Can't wait for them to take a crack at this figure.
Funbie studio has a custom astrotrain piece that make that part of the train bigger
I would have to agree with you there, great looking figure, but it should have been a head taller.
Thank you for the review.
You're one of the few person I've heard actually criticizing Astrotrain's alt modes, which I'm glad because I was starting to think I was the only one to not like them! It just so happens that steam locomotives and the space shuttles are among my favourite vehicles ever so I just can't get over the wonky proportions of the shuttle (the potato-shaped nose, the large chunky front with the mangled back) or the train (which looks like a thin train being eaten by a larger one).
The robot mode's amazing though, but not enough to buy it, even at half price like it is at my local store.
i notice the KO downsized combiner wars devastator in the intro there. you a sneaky one lazy eyebrow
1. Great video, as always.
2. I respect your opinions.
3. The size doesn't bother me one bit. I am excited to get him as my first Astrotrain ever when he makes it to my country.
The tender lacking coal detail could mean that its an oil fired engine, as they never needed a large opening for coal to go into the tender
I mean that's fair. nothing's saying the inside of the square box isn't round for liquid structural strength
I do like that (while inaccurate to the actual locomotive) the treads on the tender could be seen as a centipede tender akin to the Union Pacific Big Boy and 844.
oh come on! the jacket's iconic! that's pointless nitpick if I've ever seen one
I'm actually disappointed the Tender doesn't clean up and finishes the Spacs Shuttle mode
This is an unfortunate issue with triple changers. The extra engineering required for the third mode bumps a Voyager size figure into the Leader class price point.
I'd love to see a new Astrotrain in Commander (maybe Titan?) class, ideally with the more real-world (and more interesting) white and black colour scheme used for Galaxy Shuttle. Unfortunately, I think my best bet in the near future would be a Studio Series 86 figure, which would definitely stick with the grey.
0:56 I love this part
It’s just...
I feel like people need to get it. Leader Class isn’t about size anymore. It’s about engineering, parts count, plastic, and accessories. They couldn’t have made Astrotrain at a voyager price point; he’s too complicated and they wanted to keep that tender/launch base.
I agree to some extent, i just honestly wish he was TR astro sized
That's completely fair. Not all of those guns were strictly necessary
9:51 sooooo the rick grimes
Great review! I’m okay with the scale of Astrotrain since I bought it half price.
If you have "leader" class siege shockwave you can put the Gun feet that come with it on astrotrain to make him taller
this makes me want to collect trains
Ok man, your video discription, and the video itself obviously, got a laugh out of me. Nicely done, its a great figure, and your review is amazing. That said im waiting for the inevitable KO version thats actually a reasonable size for astrotrain... blitzwing should not be taller than him... like, at all.
That slowed down TF:The Movie music is some A E S T H E T I C stuff