Is Trad Wife Life Better, The Nature Of Women And Men | The Culture War with Tim Pool
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
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Tim Pool
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Pearl Davis @JustPearlyThings
Lauren Chen @laurenchen
Rachel Wilson | substack.com/@rwilson
Isabella Moody
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Lisa Elizabeth @LisaElizabeth (X)
Kellen Leeson @KellenPDL (X)
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Thanks for inviting me! I had a great time.
Glad to see you here!
it was good work
Good Job, women defending men warms my heart. Thanks
hope u working on your next upload - MTG vs AOC vs Jasmine Crockett
You should do more videos. You come with great data and in a very easy to digest way. Great job.
I think Pearl asking the conservative women if they were virgins on their wedding night followed by an awkward moment of silence was quite the killshot.
Pearl's not a virgin either though.
I literally saw the life points drop after that question was asked. lol
@@NexOdioshe didn’t claim to be
@@sleezy0059exactly 😂
Most, if not all, conservative men watch adult content on a daily basis. They also want to excuse their cheating saying it's normal and should be allowed. But yeah that part was pretty funny. Isabella was a major H to the O to the E before, there's pics of this.
Lauren: If a man chooses a bad woman who destroys him, he bears responsibilty, because he made that choice.
Also Lauren: If a woman chooses a bad man who hurts her kid, its not her fault, the man is responsible.
Typical gynocentric hypocrite.
The labels don't matter...feminists want men to sacrifice themselves for women, and Tradcons want men to sacrifice themselves for society...they both see men as human doings and not human beings.
I have 4 sisters, bring up women and just grab a bucket of popcorn. You don't need tv anymore. I have 1 sis that is pretty great, the other 3 are stupid to the max but entertaining if you ask them real questions lol. Lauren seems really fake to me, I never watched her before but she did attack SC and I knew it was just because trust me I am a woman crap. It always goes to that. Freaking woman know when one another are lying or cheating, but they still have some freaking herd mentality where they defend and even try to lie for that person. It's kind of gross, to me, I don't care if your male or female. Man now a days your trying to find a good girl out of a bunch of fakes, that just seem to hate men completely. I remember this South park episode where cartmen had his gf and daydreams of the woman just putting men in prisons and milking their juice and that was all. It seems like some days that's what they want to move to. Just plow me, and let me move right along. Don't you dare call me a hoe, but I will call you a man hoe lol if you don't stay. Weird standards, my one sis cheated on her ex husband after day 2 of marriage, man and she tries to talk like she is a saint.
Exactly, she's just grifting in a space to sell products and get viewership. Let societal pressure change and she'll float right on over to a different viewpoint. She doesn't believe what she sells, because she's only selling what makes money.
Lauren's take eventually falls into the feminist trope of everything eventually becomes the man's fault.
Girl becomes pregnant? It's the dude's fault.
Girl becomes a single mom with 100s of choices given to her? Dude's fault
The father is being withheld from their children? He was probably abusive.
Women can opt out of being a mother, but can the father? No, it's his fault.
ZzZzZzzz
She is awful too listen too. The problem with all these red pill women is that they are false Prophets looking for real Profits. Queens of grifting.
“Women can claim emotional abuse”. Exactly. This is why my son lost his house, half his income, and lost custody of his kids, while his ex-wife took her boyfriend and moved him into the house that my son bought.
Yep women abuse laws and make shit up to win
Sad he couldn’t lead his wife and family.
Rachel did absolutely horrible in this panel. She just sat her f@t ass and nodded and then added unnecessary woman prattle. This was a poor performance from her. This entire panel was awful and didn't even capitalize on the Lauren Southern issue, which could've been a huge opportunity to expose her defenders. Absolutely awful
Rachel did absolutely horrible in this panel. She just sat her f@t ass and nodded and then added unnecessary woman prattle. This was a poor performance from her. This entire panel was awful and didn't even capitalize on the Lauren Southern issue, which could've been a huge opportunity to expose her defenders. Absolutely awful
Poor choice, eh? Or victim blaming... @@matshepherd118
SPOILER: Tim survives this experience.
He doesn't want the Hitler narrative to die. He has to bring him up at least 2 times every hour of his life.
What is greatness? Is greatness everyone knowing your name?
@@SOUTHERNMAN33right. She stated a simple observation that most problems come from women and Tim did a what-aboutism. Tim has Hitler derangement syndrome
@@SOUTHERNMAN33 You're dishonest and lack intelligence.
Except when he brought up women’s average weight. That was a touchy topic lol. I was cringing. Just avoid the topic if at all possible.
Lauren seems to only be able to debate in some imaginary land where reality isn’t the way it is. She also really responded to almost every point with “but men…”
It’s known as the ancient martial art “what about da men do”
By Andrew Wilson 🤣🤣🤣
She's a closeted hardcore feminist in denial. Always has been.
A gaggle of women discussing the problems of men, while Tim is mostly silent.
Bizarro World.
Tim is learning. Slowly but surely.
A perfect analogy for Society.
hes watching the Cat Fight
Tim only argues when he feels like it
Love how Pearl and Rachel pull Lauren back to reality. It is ALWAYS “but men…” argument.
That's... Always what red pillers say when people make a valid point in the gender war though. It's always "but WoMaN;!!!!!"
I just want to hear actual good arguments.
Feminists always go "But MeN reeee!!!!"
Yes, by yelling cherry picked fairy tales. LIke Destiny Hahahahaha
I dont think most people understand how much feminism has changed the world we live in. The last 10 years our society has drastically spiraled without anyone noticing how bad it is in totality.
Feminism + Sexual Revolution
Clear when women pick a bear over men...
It's deeper than you could ever imagine. Most people are only viewing it surface level. Many conservative women are feminist first too. I caught it recently with an old, VERY Christian, conservative woman.
She was telling me a story about this woman who was scammed out of her money on a dating site. "Isn't that so horrible that there are men out there like that??"
...I told her that this woman probably knew tons of men in her area, she HAD to have known single men... Yet she was scammed by a fake celebrity doctor on the internet.... Why is that? She was chasing the fantasy. She is the #1 target. The older woman couldn't accept this belief. She could NOT view the woman as being in the wrong WHATSOEVER. It's so deeply engrained even in older generations. Women can do no wrong.
I completely agree, even our language and perspectives on how we look at issues were all shaped by it. Even people who are against feminism fall victim to this sometimes.
Oh, we've noticed.
So much of feminism is wanting the benefits of a patriarchy without the duties of a patriarchy.
I think it goes both ways, Men are stupid enough to let their partners, or wives post things online that should only be shared in the bedroom. I work at a clinic and have 4 sisters. It's quite disturbing how often you see cheating. I have 1 sis that listened to me, and married a good guy, and got off all the social media and learned to be happy as a wife. My other sisters are nuts man. I look at it like this, I see there are men that defend the type of women that cheat and lie, like their something special. So to me at this point you blame both. It never ends good when you have a wife or lover that is posting online, it always ends with cheating in my experience. It's always the men that tell me how marriages are good, and to trust this and that and how great their marriages are, are the ones getting cheated on. I will end it here one of my sisters got married, within the first two days after a 30K wedding, she was cheating on a good looking top 1 percent guy, for a ugly, fat greasy looking dude. I am serious, I don't even know why, the guy found out way later and got out of it. I remember she was telling me about the guy that she cheated on him with. I was like sis your a married woman with a good guy. HE did nothing wrong, this other guy was talking crap to her on FB and she ruined a good marriage, with a wealthy funny guy, for a fat slob that ended up having 4 different woman pregnant. I don't pretend to understand woman anymore. My one sis is great, the others can't get married now, and their all pretty attractive. None of them are over 40 but they cheat, lie, and tell me what men want lol. I wonder why men are going for the damn 18 and 19 year old's now.
No, I fear it's worse. Marriage is the matriarchy. That's why man and woman are joined in holy MATRIMONY. Marriage is the female sexual reproductive strategy implemented at the societal level. Men are literally playing WOMEN'S game for them, and they call it oppressive and don't want to do it. Yikes.
"Without the authority of a patriarchy" women are not willing to submit to men.... that'd the issue. They've tasted of the wines and adulteries of Freedom! And are not willing to surrender it for the good of their families or children....
This is what Jezabel Spirit is.
Highly disagree. Feminist of all stripes and waves I know, even 2nd wavers, want true equality. They want to be conscripted with the men, but ideally they want no one being forced to fight. They want female loggers, garbage workers, female roofers, etc just as much as men do those things.
Every time pearl makes a point, chen has to move the goalposts to hate on men
yea, she's envious of pearl's success. but make no mistake, they're both feminists. let them speak and the truth will come out.
@@eotikurac Pearl isn't a feminist, man. I think you may have shell shock from the front lines if you think she might be one, bro.
@@bongoon2552pearl is 100% a feminist she actually embodies pretty much all tenants of of traditional feminist. She just on a modern feminist.
I like Pearl I think she made some really good points and nobody else could really contest her but that doesn't change the fact that she's not a traditional woman. Nor she a conservative and she openly admits that she is not a conservative.
@@bongoon2552 i watched her 24 hour streams she had at 100k and 250k and she absolutely is. when she's tired, she says what she really means. ALL women are feminists.
@@seemlesslies yeah, I dunno what you're trying to do here, but she is an antifeminist, and one of the most effective and based.
When you put the government in charge of anything it goes downhill. Marriage is no different.
The government has not affected my marriage. What does that even mean?
Been married 37 years along with most my friends. Women want to be married. They just don't want to be wives.
All the benefits but not the troubles.
Men want women to serve them but with zero of the responsibility of being a husband lol
90% of modern men can't even meet basic standards of a husband.
So they want a daddy and sperm donor?
Been married for only close to a year yet I've been with the same woman for over a decade and we have three children together. I do love very her. But goddammit we sure do not agree on basically anything
@@charltonrider2072damn. They sucks.
“If a woman can choose to have an abortion, a man should not have to pay”
-Dave Chappelle
You didn't say the joke right. It's if women have the right to kill a child, shit the man should at least have the right to abandon it. 😆😆😆
That part
Like your guy who got a girl pregnant and wanted her to have an abortion when she doesn’t want to? You guys preach accountability but can’t wrap it up.
@@SJ-ru4ej How you know for sure if she was ever pregnant in the first place?? 🤫
@@SJ-ru4ej She literally killed the baby before Fresh even knew she was pregnant. You clearly never followed the story lol
12:00 Lauren: "Yes Women are allowed to be immoral, destroy a man's life, kill his child or force him to pay for a child he never wanted, But the solution to that isn't to give men power" 😂😂 wow. Okay what is the solution then? Continue to allow us to be powerless and get screwed over? There is a problem here and it's been here for many years. Pearl is on point.
All the man has to do bbn is not have unprotected sex pretty simple u bring this on yourselves
yeah I use to like Lauren Chen but I noticed soooo much hypocrisy. In this video alone there is atleast 3
Men have power of force. Anytime we want, we can take over the world and make it into whatever we want. Who is going to stop us? Women?
4 billion women with guns vs 4 billion men with guns. Who wins? Rhetorical. It's men.
Operate in reality. Who cares what you think. Don't father a child you won't take responsibility for.
Not a huge Pearl Fan, but out of everyone, Lauren gets the L for bringing the feminist energy in this conversation.
Well tim is an L so atleast she isn't alone
thats not an argument
I have a divorce horror story.
Wife cheated on my over 15 times while in Afghanistan. My daughter was calling someone else dad and forgot who i was.
Military wouldn't give me custody because you need 51 percent.
And adultery is not illegal for the spouse. Only the active service member.
Edit:
Please realize this was not a sob story. I remarried have five children, co own a winery and about to retire from the military.
And in my time in the military I bought a few different homes.
And my daughter lives with me because her mother couldn't handle it and said she can't do it. So I just took her and the rest is history.
Thanks for the replies though.
Sorry about that, brother. Hope you doing fine now...
Be honest: did you cheat?
@@catiel8978 Your inability to find fault in women shows your selfish perspective.
@fatmonkey4716 no, I just met a lot of military guys who are very amorous, especially the married ones.
@@catiel8978 Amorous is not cheating. And I was in the military, the married guys exercise, their wives after kids, not so much, even though most only worked part time. If a guy was cheating on his hot wife, he got made fun of constantly. And lastly, if you are talking to married men, you should be asking about their families.
tradcon women: traditional with words when trying to snag a husband, but a covert feminist after they get control
I prefer feminists. Tradcon are worst than feminists. They hide it and are more radical.
Precisely!
Exactly right, you could see Lauren just thinking of all the times she disobeys her husband while Pearl was calling her out haha... tradcon covert feminists do exactly as Lauren does, they say their obedience is conditional on their husband's godliness, and then appoint themselves the arbiter of their husband's godliness and apply it whenever they want to get out of accountability.
@@thattrickydude Totally Agree! The bible doesnt give women the judgment of whether or not they should obey their husbands. Their obedience isnt conditional on the man at all.
Back in my day before redpill was mainstream we used to call those women: Chameleons, because they changed color 😂😂😂 I guess it's still working
Pearl and Rachel are literally the only ppl i see actually sticking up for men and calling out female hypocrisy. More so than even MEN do!
"if a woman can opt out of having a baby, a man should be able to also" -- Pearl Davis
sounds like equal rights to me.
@@PlazaMayabetter than gynocentric world we live in now.
As a retired pastor I can tell you that the churches are 99.9% Feminist today. I know, because mine stuck out because it wasn't.
Here's how:
Men build new space.
Men enjoy space.
Women wonder where men went.
Women find space.
Women invade space.
Women demand space change.
Men no long enjoy space.
Men leave space.
Men build new space....
Repeat.
The church is dying because it doesn't not appeal to men to build it up.
@@fedup1606 Another part of it is that the women hold the purse strings, so the preachers don't want to upset the women and have them leave and take their donations with them. Men need to stop handing their money over to their wives.
It's also why so many men became atheists, because there is no cultural benefit for them to lend the church their power.
@@zeuszoos8386the lesson should be that Bribing God with Money doesn't make you a good person.
Feminism has been around since the beginning of time. I'd pray for better days
This was really bad for Lauren Chen
Glad she's finally getting exposed
@@aerovespr exposed for what? this was just a gang up with pearl at the forefront crying.. shes just a grifting troll, she admits as much.
@@aerovespryeah..... she's a feminist in disguise..... the worst type
@@theefranchise1299 lmao people always say oh shes a grifter without providing actual proof its easy to type that its whole other to prove it.
@@user-rr6zc6dy1oHere's one: He was more critical of Tate who use to run a consensual chatgroup than Nala, a woman who increased her whxre prices for OF....
You a Chen simp, deal with it.
Tim Pools face in that thumbnail says "Only the bear can get me out of this situation!!"
Lmaoo
Grizzle Grizzle
Pearl has gotten way better at debating and defending her positions. She also dresses cooler. Good for her.
Bro I was so surprised. I haven’t watched her debate in such a long time cuz I remember her being so God-awful at it. She did really well here. She sticks to the point and doesn’t get sidetracked by red herrings that much anymore.
@@AppleJacksCereal yeah it’s like she got private coaching or something. She also carries herself more confidently and competently. She’s really grown into the role well.
interrupting the other person non stop so they cant make a point doesnt mean youre a good debater now
@@The.Harsh.Truthsshe did get coached by Andrew Wilson so that’s part of the reason she’s gotten better.
No she just had a lame debater who’s just as lame as she is. She said so much BS than a solid debater would’ve easily called her out on.
Pearl made Lauren look like an absolute clown 🤡
Who wears more makeup the 🤡 or her? Lol
I think she made her self look like one. She never gave SC a benefit of the doubt, she jumped on the believe all woman band wagon pretty quickly. This whole, he said mean words crap is stupid. PEOPLE fight, men and woman, that is life. NO ONE in the comments can dispute this because people argue. You can fake that you are a moral great human, but the reality is if you read the bible, we all have sinful, ugly nature. Whether you like it or not. She deflects anything Pearl says, and hides behind her faith. I believe in God, and what Pearl ask her is pretty simple, if their is a speck in your eye, why talk about other peoples speck. It's clear to me, I don't trust a lot of women that say their gamers, Christians, Conservatives, or clown wrestlers. I have 4 sisters, and they say anything to get mens attention. If you aren't insecure do you really need plastic surgery lol? I think the men that don't like Pearl is simple, she makes them ask question's about their life and their marriage, for women she says the truth. Men have become women, and vice versa. You can either lie and defend a stupid point, or see reality for what it is. The bible tells the best description of a good woman, and a devilish one. READ and you will see what is happening now.
Did you also notice Tim who is partially a leftist was stumbling and stuttering over his words attempting to leash pearl
You win this round Pearl.
But if you wanna see something very entertaining see Pearl on Alex Stein. He trolled her pretty good. The whole episode is very funny.
@@flexjohnson18 yes she is a master debater
Food for thought, there are Men who are paying child support for a child that is not their. They know, the court knows and the mother knows. Yet the men is helpless and at the mercy of a society that punishes Men.
And the response people say to this messed up situation "but then the state would have to support the mother/child and it would cost tax payers money". Lmao, first time ever they've cared about saving money. Apparently men are just supposed to be pseudo slaves. There should be an automatic DNA test at the hospital, also makes sure the baby didn't get switched up accidentally.
@@dylan-5287you can always volunteer to pay for those kids. I don’t want to do that.
So sad to thing this actually happens everyone knows its wrong yet nothing is done about it society is officially in the shitter
@@ZARA-to9fp get rid of welfare entirely. If they can't provide for themselves, they starve. Putting it onto some random dude is as messed up as making you or I pay for them.
And now, you have guys that went to a sperm bank paying child support to 2 lesbians...
Lauren kind of proved Pearl's point about not taking accountability for her actions with the Crowder segment. Yikes...
Indeed!
I thought that was blair white
I didn't know she works for him, especially after saying that
Lauren sticks out as a total FAIL in this video. She seems more like a feminist defending the women and blaming men.
She probably has an NDA and is hiding behind it. He probably is a dick to work with/for but most creative are.
Just here to watch Lauren CCP takes Ls for 2.5 hours.
I’ve never listened to Pearl before but everything she said was supremely based especially calling out hypocritical conservative woman
Damn I thought that was Blair white!
Ccp?
I’m not a big fan of pearl but I do love that she calls conservatives and tradcons for their blatant hypocrisy and ignorance regarding the state of young men today
She basically exposes how silly the whole notion of a "trad wife" is
@@iwlnillamost of women that calls themselves "trade wives" in reality are just unemployed modern women in apron.
Lauren came off basically as a "trad-feminist", which I describe as a feminist wearing the veneer of conservatism.
Pretty much all her disagreements with Pearl were "why are you such a big meanie?"
And all her rebuttals to Pearl's arguments were "but what about the men tho?"
I agree with much of what Pearl says, but "what about men" is a perfectly valid rebuttal when someone is literally claiming women are to blame for society's woes.
@@EricVMag It depends on who is responding to whose actions. Men are responding to women going off the rails.
Lauren aims for the truth (though she misses at times). Lauren was basically FORCED to advocate for the other side, because Pearl makes 90+% true statements, but Lauren wants to get the statement to 100%...
For instance in the 35 vs 25 argument... a 35 year old super model, is likely still hotter than 80+% of 25 year old chicks (this is Laurens point). But a 25 year old super model is hotter at 25 than she would be at 35 (also Laurens point, but also kinda Pearls point)... I think what Pearl was trying to say is "on average women are hotter at 25 than at 35"... But Pearl wouldnt let it go, even though she was wrong without the phrase "on average"... She was trying to make an absolute statement when it doesnt hold up...
Pearl is great for what she does, but he does 90+% true shock content... Laruen on the other hand is not great with shock content, but she aims for 100% truth....
Women can ask the man to use protection. If they don't they are 100% to blame. If McDonalds gives me free burgers and I become overweight is it their fault or mine? For being irresponsible.
@@chrismcaulay7805 That is total nonsense, Lauren was mad that Pearl used the word "uglier" which pearl NEVER even said, and was making a petty semantic argument over nothing to try and defend her fake outrage. Which women do all the time, try to make a semantic "not all" argument when everyone knows what she was saying.
And single women can get pregnant and choose not to be with the man. And there is nothing he can do about it. She has 100% of the parental rights and he is treated like a deadbeat.
You are re tarded if you think that women are over there trying to get pregnant and not have their guy stick around to help.
@srams443 you insult because you can't content intellectually
You're the oxygen thief
@@srams443it happens a lot actually. Mainly to rich or famous people so we don't have to worry about that. But these are the same demonic women who make fake sex allegations
@srams443 you're reee tarded if you don't.
@@srams443 the only women that are okay with single motherhood are single women who visit sperm banks. Women who get pregnant naturally, want to do anything and everything possible to make it work with the father.
Thanks so much for having me!
You said nothing in this debate & your husband is a soy-boy.
Lauren Chen took a stomping... I love you, Lauren, but you are the conservative woman who is actually a feminist that Pearl talks about.
You love her? Hahahahaha take this L 🤡
@aerovespr yes, because needlessly rude to people online is something that we should all be striving for. Next, you're going to be text shouting nerd. 🙄
I could listen to Rachel Wilson's historical knowledge of feminism all day long!
She has a book, it’s called Occult Feminism and there’s videos with her on the subject. Recommend.
@@fox1actualShe's done several interviews on it as well. Worth watching
Same I love the history lessons. Bought her book
if you listened to her all day long, would she ever mention the Jews?
Yes! It's so rare to see women actually telling the true history of feminism, so many so called "anti feminist" saying "modern feminism" is the problem, um no there is no difference between modern feminism and first feminism, its all the same, same creation and same goal, and the amount of propaganda now about womens history, the amount of people who actually don't know almost all women fought against suffragettes is insane, historyhas been rewritten. Feminism is a vile evil movement from the start and I love Rachel for exposing it.
Lauren was so annoying. Thanks Pearl.
Lauren Chen is the most covert of feminist.
Covert narcissist too
@@LoveQuestWithLisaConcepcion This, so much. Her vanity is out of control.
She raged tweeted some guy who dared say she's using filters, saying "Poor man is absolutely seething that I am just more attractive than he is."
She's surprisingly silent to allegations of plastic surgery, though.
Don’t trust Lauren Chen at this point.
When a woman starts adding upward inflections to the end of her sentence you know she is getting defensive and lying.
I hope after this, her s i m p s fans see through her BS
@@isekso9843 They won't just like the Lauren Southern SMPs have not.
@@isekso9843 That's why they're simps. They ignore truth & follow blindly hoping they get picked. LOL !!
Shes a feminist hack
Here is my experience firsthand of what Pearl is talking about in the beginning. She is correct in my case. My dad was my rock and taught me what it was to be a man. My mother wanted custody of my brother and I for the benefits and still abused and abandoned us. She was extremely toxic in our lives. The last thing my dad told me about my mom when we talked about it a little before his passing was that I needed to look for the compassion and be merciful to my mother and not completely cut her out. Even though he dispised who she became and how bad of a mother she was, he still pushed me to be merciful. That is the difference I've seen between women and men. Women lean into their emotions, and men look for reason. I would also go as far as to say that this is our problem in the inner cities. Kids in gangs raised by mothers functioning off of pure emotions, and that's why there is so much fighting.
I absolutely agree! I had a similar conversation with my father a couple of years ago. Women can raise monsters sometimes, and men always try to raise good people. Despite how they feel.
I had a similar situation. I was already an adult when she sought divorce, but I had a young brother & he’s now really messed up. My dad didn’t want me to lose the relationship I had with my mother and siblings, but they literally gave me no choice & cut me off. I’m better off, but wow he didn’t deserve what she did to him.
Absolutely, my father taught me honor, discipline, expectations and boundaries, fairness and how to plan for the future. My mom taught me to lie to women so they don't fly off the handle.
Women tend to be more vindictive than men.
Brother, you are 10000% right. A women will have pure hate...she could literally make her kids father broke, homeless and left for dead out of spite...I have never seen a man make the mother of his kids homeless. Regardless of what she did.
Damn pearl hit them with a mic drop
Were any of use a virgin on your wedding night 😂😂😂😂
Lauren: Of course man are stronger than women.
Also Lauren: There are some 30 y.o. women who are hotter than some 20 y.o. women.
Someone feels personally attacked! 😂😂
there's no substitute for youth
They say that because they're creeped out by older men seeing younger women in a sexual way.
with all that make up 😂
@@Dragblackerthey are hypocrites
@@eotikurac There are thirty year old women hotter than twenty year old women. If they have looke dafter themselves and led a healthy lifestyle.
This fucking Tim dude saved Lauren on the Crowder thing, interrupted exactly where Pearl was really trying to put a coffin to the discussion. Lauren said she reported on whats available publicly but then should have been grilled to answer Pearl’s question why she didnt report on the court footage(crowders wife saying he was not abusive)which was also publicly available.
I'm glad Lauren was called out.
Lauren abided by the contract she agreed to while speaking on what she is allowed to. This shows integrity. She, in her limited capacity, is trying to clue the public in that Crowder is not a good guy. And please, Pearl Grifter is a very dense individual. She only proved again that she is a grifter.
@@jshricksYou can’t claim NDA on a topic you’ve made 5 videos on especially when the information being discussed is publicly available. No one asked her to speak on information that was presented was true she knew she could answer it she just knew she’d also look silly in the gotcha moment.
@@jshricks I think Crowder has been vindicated by now. He may be a difficult person to be around, but that doesn’t mean his ex wife isn’t trash. She was up to some shady shit, without a doubt.
And oh, you’re a Pearl hater. How original. 🙄
@@taw1967 vindicated how? You people can have literal video evidence of awful behavior and you’re still fighting to say he’s great. Weird. Hope you’re not married!
We could argue she’s equally awful but it doesn’t change how crazy he acted
@@jshricks They're all insufferable, these millennial/GenZ pundits. All of them. The last few months with all this stupid drama proved it.
Basically, two and a half hours of Pearl savaging Lauren.
No, 2,5 hours Pearl overspeaking and overyelling everyone, including Tim.
Lauren was ducking like crazy. I really can't stand the fake piety. People will talk a good talk but their actions prove otherwise. That's ridiculous to say that Crowder video was abusive. The fact that Lauren pays more attention to Crowder's tone than the wife who refused to listen is evidence that these trad women only feign obedience. What they really mean is that they will obey as long as it is something they want to do. I'm not a fan of Crowder for all the lies he spreads about Islam but I didn't see any abuse in that video. Lastly, Tim derailed the conversation too frequently and always at the point when Pearl was just about to cook.
Watching these 4 women is way better than The View.
Theyd make a good daytime tv show
Good point!
Eh ...
Watching paint dry is also better than watching the View.
rachel wilson is the breakout star of this conversation. thank you for having her.
She is the goat
I want to see more of her.
Agreed!
“Women are 100% in control over who is born.”
I’ve never thought of it that way.
Try the book manipulated man. The author argues that men can only have kid if women permit it.
@rithahhear509 well yea, unless you force yourself on her. It also works the other way. A woman can't get pregnant unless a man agrees to sleep with her.
I've never paid much attention to Pearl. I didn't think highly of her but also never understood all the hate. She did VERY WELL on this episode. I have to give her props. She seemed very genuine and defended her points well. Kudos.
Ladies, Pearl is in reality. Women say one thing and 4-7 years later behave and say something different.
Men do the same thing. Turns out that's _part of the _*_HUMAN CONDITION_* : sometimes people change their minds. Basically a moot point.
@VueiyVisarelli lol except they don't. Feminine men do. Actual men don't and that's a silly comment to make. "So DoEs MeN"
@@VueiyVisarelli”men do to” is your only answer to anything. Women and accountability are like oil and water
Men also leave their spouses, change careers, quit or join religions. People change. It is a human thing.
@_hesha_7092 and the small percentage that do doesn't invalidate the majority that don't. The way women argue for the minority is wild. It's statistically insignificant. Men don't leave their women if they are a good women almost ever. And the stats back this. She screwed up bad if he left. Try the experiment yourself. Ask all the women you know how many men have broke up with them vs. how many they left (usually for nonsensical reasons). You will find it's way more often the women than not. We don't make laws and rules for exceptions. The fact this is so mind blowing to women kinda shows why the 19th is being talked about. American grown women think like middle schoolers
Many young people go into marriage say " if it doesn't work we can always get divorced". That's a problem.
That they can get divorced if it doesn’t work out? This, of all things, is a problem to you?
@@srams443 Yes, working together requires work and effort, it is easy to grow apart if you focus on self. We discourage poor behavior and encourage good behavior.
@@srams443 Yes because they treat marriage like its an extension of dating and leave it as soon as it requires any real work or effort. There is no stigma for them to just end it and walk away so they no longer give it much consideration entering into it either.
@@fatmonkey4716 and therefore nobody should have an option to get a divorce, or?…
@@WarlordShogun and therefore NOBODY should get a divorce? If your chick cheats on you, you can’t divorce her in your world? Wtf are you saying
That Asian girl got destroyed by pearl
Emotional abuse is something a man can do to a woman but it's not acknowledged as something women do to men in our court systems.
Gotta admit Pearl took it here, this podcast definitely improved my opinion of her.
Agreed. I don't like her constant ho-bashing, but she backed it up here.
I was always with Pearl even when she said crazy stuff cause lowkey bad publicity is also good publicity. Those who followed her knew what she was doing.
That doesn't discredit her past tho. She is as they say it a reformed one. But, atleast she is fighting the right fight now.
Same here. Didn't have much of an opinion on her before but it seemed like everyone dunked on her and called her dumb and I started to believe that must be the case. Disagree with her on somethings but I respect someone who calls out hypocrisy and bullshit even when they get massive hate for doing so.
Same
@@roshill2010 What past? Genuinely curious.
This is the first time Tim has let the guests properly express themselves. If he could just bring some of this patience and neutrality to his other shows he would probably elevate even higher. It's the "why" behind Joe Rogan's success.
The first time? Isn't that a bit hyperbolic? This isnt JRE, go watch that instead.
Lol he couldn't get a word in the entire time 😂
They all kept trying to power through each other 😂😂😂
He was probably scared of being hit with a heavy object If he tried to interfere too much. But It's a very one-sided discussion, he himself has completly bought into the redpill dogma, and then he called two redpill-adjacent women to fight Lauren, the only conservative on the panel. Tim manipulates the result of this show like this every single time.
It was hilarious to watch him desperately try to rein things in when it was getting hot. I think Tim did a pretty good job but these women are no strangers to panel debates so they did a decent job aggressively debating but yielding right when it was getting a bit too much. I do wish Lauren and Pearl could have let each other finish their points a bit more, but Pearl was getting so frustrated with Lauren changing the topic every time she was losing a point... Lauren should be a politician the way she can talk so long without answering a yes or no question. And Lauren just kept interrupting cause she was tired of getting destroyed haha
Irl is a news and current affairs show… he talks that much to keep the show format.
And talking a lot is his thing
Pearl really held her own because she approached it with a realist perspective. Now i understand how she sees things.
She really called out Lauren and she failed to step up. Lauren sounded like a liberal feminist at times.
Tim trying to pull a gotcha on Pearl about her not encouraging men to get married until the laws are changed but Tim is also not married because of the no fault divorce laws.
Yea I dont got that, why did he keep arguing about that when she didnt oppose at any point what he was saying lol
W Pearl!! She made an incredible point on conservative women not being conservative because none of them came to Crowder's defense.
I watched it all. I have to say that Pearl seemed to get the better part of this debate than Lauren.
As MOST people do that debate Lauren.
This is what happens when you dont KNOW anything and just speak on what she "feels"
Andrew Wilson embarrassed her.... Pearl embarrassed her..... Even Myron embarrassed her without even debating her. ROFL
Most people can't actually debate Pearl she's rooted in too many statistics that disprove their arguments
Wasn't expecting it but I think your right.
Anybody can debate Pearl and win. Have you seen the Ethan Klein debate, she’s dumb as a bag of rocks
@@polketex5043stop the 🧢
"Men that women divorce have made a poor life choice" is literally the same argument as "women who men beat have made a poor life choice".
Both have. They picked the wrong partner. It's not 100 percent their fault. It can be hard to predict someone's behavior. But to move on from anything, the first thing any person should be asking is "What could I have done differently? How can I apply that to the future?"
The only time you know a woman's real character is in divorce court.
"Women can do no wrong" -> Whatever argument follows that logic is the most acceptable argument in all situations.
Woman hits man? If he's a real man, it wouldn't hurt anyways.
Man hits woman? What a disgusting abusive monster.
It doesn't surprise me a bit they dont understand basic logic and what the entailment of that logic would/could be ,, just parrot Feminist Starwman Non-sequitur arguments without ever thinking them through,, I MEAN THIS IS BASIC DEDUCTIVE REASONING AND BASIC LOGIC 😂😂. Rachel is the only one in this group that even understands what a debate is
@@TheFacelessFittuberPearl did well. I didn't realise she was this smart. She demolished Lauren.
Looks like that debate with Andrew Wilson had lasting effects on Lauren. She's just not very good at delivering his arguments
I see what you did there....and it's hilarious because I was thinking the same thing!
Pearl rolled everyone. Flattened.
Woman... Am I right fellas?
As a women, I totally agree lol
I am the biggest asshole when it comes to modern women online but women that are 70-80 years old now grew up in different times. Women can be amazing. It just takes them half a century.
Women (plural)
@@becktheanglophilewoman (singular)
You ain't lyin
Lauren is like every right wing woman, she is not a feminist until something effects them personally then like just like the other Lauren the feminism comes out. Its real easy to rail against something as long as you arent personally involved, she doesnt want to admit that woman are not more nurturing because that would mean that there is a better chance her husband is a more nurturing parent.
i disagree...... She openly admits WHY she doesnt want to admit some things..... and its ONLY b/c she is a "women's women"... w/e TF that means.
I'm happy someone else is calling out Lauren Southern's despicable behavior of late, too. Thank you.
You're projecting
Just like my ex wife!
I'm a man. I'm 44. I just had my first kid. Not hard to wait at all.
Pearl is truly living up to her name ❤️
definitely a Lauren L, she is a feminist every time its woman good and but the men tho.. all points(Crowder,nala, 35yo-25yo and bernadine) Pearl made to Lauren her answer is not wanting ppl to critisize woman and all woman are good. almost always talking both side of her mouth if confronted
Then who isn’t a feminist? You see feminists everywhere like a crazy person
Exactly she sucks! We'll see what happens to her later on
Someone should ask Pearl why she is putting her Internet career over marriage and having children. Seems a bit feminist. She has no skin in the game while endlessly preaching what she doesn't live.
@@amt5911 Pretty sure she's dating, and what is she preaching? she is only revealing statistical evidence and triggered feminists don't like it. Also you know every other human being in the world has a job while they are looking for a partner, right? But you have a problem with her working, how interesting... not salty at all
@@amt5911I'll answer your question. I don't give a shit
People just need to be aware that Trad-Wife has become a grift. There is real Trad-Wives and they have many things in common, little to no social media, religious, became Trad-Wives very young, these 30+ year old women now becoming Trad-Wives are a grift and men have to be careful.
I said this in 2017. All vvomen are pro choice feminists. You guys still fall for it. Pearl is too!
@@AustrianPainter14Pearl is a grifter but she ain't pro choice
100% the trad wives aren't arguing on X like these people. Lauren Chen is great on a bunch of issues, but whenever something about women is the topic she's clearly feminist.
It was always a grift....Unless you're a Mormon or one of the Quaker Oats people, the tradcon life is just a woman who is okay with a man busting his butt to make life easier for her.
Thank you. I've been trying to say this everywhere! Although I'd argue that I don't think Pearl is so much of a grifter as the rest. And I think that's mainly due to the fact that she's been in the attention sphere for so long that she can't get out of it now. Almost branded as bad as an only fans lady
Pearl was on point in this. Everything Tim said as a reason to believe things can be reversed has been debunked by Japan and Korea. Cant blame religion, cant blame onlyfans. Modern technology and medicine has truly liberated women. The only thing women need men for is recreational fun. They not giving up that leverage
Yikes this was a hard watch for Lauren Chen. It's clear to me that she is just a keyboard warrior who spends her time is a bubble. It's also pretty obvious she has had a personal vendetta against Crowder for a very long time and I'm glad Pearl called her out on this publicly.
Lauren might want to think twice about ever coming at Pearl again.
After the child is born women still have the option to drop a kid off at police station or fire station and have no financial responsibility. So financially women still have a privilege that men dont.
Thats only if the kid doesn't have a father.
@@godzilla2k26 that's not true. Obviously the kids have a father or they wouldn't exist. Yet only the women get to abdicate responsibility. Nobody chases the mother that abandoned the kid down. But if a man leaves a relationship hes is chased down.
@@godzilla2k26 You are woefully uninformed. If the man doesn't know the jurisdiction which his child has been taken, he receives no cooperation.
@@trailblazer632 Why change the subject to a relationship and not stick to abandoning the child? Is it because you know I was right and you needed to pivot to a new topic?
@@PNWPI-wy9is That absolutely wouldn't matter. Federal law goes against what you think you know.
I love Lauren typically but damn Pearl was on fire. She said everything I've been wanting to say to Lauren for a while now. Pearl was on and stayed on point. I don't get how people think Pearl hates herself and hates women when she just has basic and very simple expectations for them and doesn't treat them like children. Though, that is how society wants us to treat women sadly these days.
Because her solutions of everyone just be as selfish as possible is a net negative. It's a fine point that there are bad things culturally around relationships, but when you have her and all those "types" of people just constantly proposing a solution to make things worse for society, it's frustrating. Men some how have all the power according to them in this podcast, but also are super abused and powerless to make any decisions for themselves. The idea that all evil comes from women is just stupid, by this "idea" all good comes from women too, which just puts us at a net of 0.
The expectations and standards that Pearl sets for other women, she herself doesn’t live by.
She’s made a career out of these talking points because being a woman in the manosphere space was an under filled role. She’s been doing it for years and no man has put a ring on her finger, yet.
Her content is rage baiting and engagement farming. All the “women bad” takes all day long and she still doesn’t have a man lol.
Pearl just cuts people off to tell them the world is bad, women are inherently evil, things will get worse for everyone and theres nothing you can do about it, so accept it. Its a good narrative for her business plan and frustrated fringe male "fanbase", but its useless to us normal people. If she aint about solutions, she's in the way. She needs to keep het grift in the small, dusty corner of the internet where it belongs.
Its cuz we are in the era of white depop & the collapse of the west! Look at he the new FBI watchlist for the biggest manosphere channels. The irony is most of these guys are blue pill who pretend to not be (Sandman, Legion of Men) these guys are not radicalists but what all these guys & Pearl are doing is pointing out how screwed up women are & once things get bad enough women will start listening. This truly is our war & we have almost lost!
Rachel and Pearl won this, hands down.
Pearl MURDERED Lauren near the end of the conversation
The reason that there were incredibly strict sexual morality requirements is that the alternatives are all horrendous.
🎯💯🎯💯🎯
Women can also legally abandon their child at Hospitals, Fire Houses and, Police Stations.
So can men…
Since there are no questions asked from those baby boxes, it could just as easily be a man…
@@pollya.berwick5047😅 bruh
@@pollya.berwick5047Please explain.
@@fatmonkey4716 I just didn’t realize that the Safe Haven Law only applied to women vs men.
1. Adoption
2. Dropping a baby off at a firehouse, church or hospital
When we’re talking about choices women have to 100% absolve themselves of LEGAL & FINANCIAL responsibility for being a parent, WHY DO YOU GUYS ALWAYS fail to mention these options?
Women have 4 LEGAL CHOICES for absolving parental responsibility. Men have ZERO. There’s no debate: that’s what unfairness looks like.
Lauren does tone police a lot. She wants to be nice. Which is great, but sometimes being nice is the wrong thing.
being nice also prevented her from attacking the incels for non topic related shaming points which her peers like to do lol
@@meesteranonymous8177 first of all the word incel is both an insult and a deflection when used lowers the tone of the conversation so kudos to her for not using it or humoring people who just toss that word around. As for tone policing that is another way to deflect or shutdown a conversation. To have an honest conversation you have to be willing to offend someone. Sometimes it’s even necessary. Sometimes softening your language actually lowers the impact and you need the impact to get the other person’s attention. It can be a shock to the system that may even take time for them to fully appreciate.
@@HistoryPoliticsFiction all i'm saying is none of them debated black pillers and all they've done is conflate blackpillers with redpillers as a shaming tactic for both
@@meesteranonymous8177 fair enough. People often confuse groups whether out of laziness or because they are unaware because they just haven’t encountered the ideology before. My point is casting a wide net and declaring someone something without bothering to ask questions and get details is not only harmful, it just makes them a hypocrite. If you are going to set a standard then stick to that standard. If you stray from it be prepared to explain yourself.
That’s because she’s an obvious feminist!
"Most churches worship WOMEN not GOD" -Pearl . This is sadly very very true.
Eve belived the Devil, and he bacame her God... Adam believed Eve, and woman became men's God
Churches want more women in because then the men come too. It's something my pastor said years ago that stuck with me. He said that if you can get the wife to come in the husband will follow because most men (not all ) think church is a waste of time or inconvenient. This was about 15 years ago and I didn't think he was right but as time as passed and I have meet more people and been more involved in our church its is very true. I find it funny too because we are apart of the most conservative end of the Lutheran church. You would think we would have men lining up but to join but nope its the women that are making them join.
Iv never seen young beautiful women at church, it’s always old people.
Young women and God don’t seem to be super common at all. But there are a handful of personalities online that make it seem like they are all over the place waiting to be wife’d up
What churches are you talking about.
@@krystelhardesty9960 lol sounds like a nightclub
Damn I thought Lauren was gonna have some good points. Pearl actually was ready for this. Tim please keep up with the Friday debates
Tim "keeping up" on a debate about women, families, and dating....... is laughable
@@mattlol163 He had Rollo on last month. Instead of constantly simping and white knighting for women, he's at least given a platform to the bias against men and their issues. Jeremy Hambly, the Quartering, too - he hosted Hoe_Math and Joker of Better Bachelor
Pearl: Look there are two squirrels fighting.
Tim: Yes, but there are squirrels in the world who don't fight.
Tim, as a viewer that has recently been finding your content underwhelming, I am happy to say that this one was GREAT!! Keep up the good work!
Pearl absolutely dominated this entire session.
A woman can also give her child up for adoption but a man is forced to provide for the child whereas a woman is not In most cases
Every child a woman gives up for adoption also has a father.
@@4362mont That's not the point that Mike was trying to make. What he was saying is women can abdicate they're parental responsibility i.e. give the kid up for adoption, drop him off at a fire station, hospital etc or get an abortion. But a Man he can't abdicate his responsibility to that child he's forced by the state to pay child support or risk going to jail.
Some times the man doesn't get the option to keep his own kid when this happens
@@noneofyourbusiness3572 What are you, Matt's second account? If he isn't someone I've muted, he can explain for himself.
@@4362mont I don't know Mike first off. Second you must not know how stuff the laws work in the U.S. regarding Parental abdication in regards to Men and women and lastly don't tell me what to do okay homie 👌🏼 you posted a comment on a public place don't like the response well tough luck block me idc.
Lauren Chen argues like a Democrat who somehow got conservative values. She has insane logic 😬
Pearl and Nick F are great at exposing grifters. Nick F when he basically outed Sydney watson as being a grifter too. During that interview on you are here she was seething and acting like a pink haired feminist the entire time Nick was talking. Now you have Pearl doing it to Lauren.
God damn, Pearl wrecked Chen!!!
I'm delighted
Lauren = Conservative Feminist
Conservative grifter..... there is no such thing as a "conservative feminist"
Lauren got murderer 😂
She was never a conservative. She was at best a centrist. She just got by with her looks just like Lauren Southern.
But Lauren does not want to destroy the patriarchy.
They're feminists period.
I dont watch any of these girls but pearl really won this debate between her and Lauren
Really enjoyed both Pearl and Rachel.
Opened my eyes as a married man of 22 years. Also gave me the realization of a true conservative marriage!
GOD IS EVERYTHING IN A MARRIAGE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST!
Great show...Tim you let them speak without much interruption...made the episode flow very well!
A traditional wife historically was a partner of their husband in life, family and business.
Be she the husband's aid in running his store, or helping her husband run the farm, or helping her king manage their court, or being the manager of the household's servants, estates and finances in the case of Japanese and European nobility. Samurai wives were also required to defend the household alongside their husband.
This is also the kind of ideal wife represented in the Bible. [Proverbs 31:10]
The 1950s "traditional wife" who only does housework and child rearing and nothing else is an artificial product of post-WW2 reconstructionism, and not at all reflective of the historical norm.
A Traditional Wife is not simply, just a mother and homemaker. She is a cornerstone of her families success and well-being.
With the obvious core of these duties being the propagation of the family. The managing of finances, business, and domestic social interaction is in service of the proper making of the family.
The problem is the "TradWife" Right thinks Tradwife just means Trophy Wife, ala Southern.
@@leviwarren6222Yes.
The fact is that among millennials and Gen Z many will get older and age out and will never married and had kids of their own and that's the truth because socio economically, politically, academically and culturally America is failed country that slowly dying, though it was an interesting experiment while it lasted.
@@leviwarren6222Absolutely correct
I think Tim has just found the cast of his version of the view
Not the worst idea I've ever heard. This was great tv
My thoughts exactly. I would sub Mary Morgan for Pearl though.
@@johnkrstyen7351 no lol. Mary can be here too. You can't get rid of the golden goose
@@johnkrstyen7351 Or add Mary Morgan to the group. We need pearl as the token in the group just like the View always has a token "conservative"
@@johnkrstyen7351 And have her throw out shock value soundbites like "The printing press was a mistake"?
Lauren was absolutely right. And it's *everyone's* place to call out bad behavior (e.g., Steven Crowder pressuring his visibly pregnant wife to walk the dog and telling her he doesn't love her). You shouldn't have to hide behind any version of "It's none of your business" if you're truly in the right. Also, a man who isn't loving and honoring his wife is in no way entitled to respect or obedience from said wife. Pearl got that wrong as well.
Pearl pulled tf up lol
People hate on pearl but she speaks so much sense.
I'm guilty of that, I thought she was only a grifter, but, she's at least consistent
I do think she is a grifter because I doubt she will be the wife she prescribe's HOWEVER I do think she believes what she says. One thing I do believe she is doing and probably because she is a woman and wired for this is sorrow wallowing and she is describing it for men as if they react like women... Men have the nuclear option women will never have and that's the ability to revolt and restart societies they deem unfit. Pearl describes a situation that cannot and will not change and by her being a woman she cannot understand men can forcibly change the world.
Please watch her recent debate with Trent Horn. I think you will have a new perspective of her.
She making terrible assumptions wit no actual evidence of it wym😂
I think the red pill community has some good things from it but overall they are just increasing the divide between the sexes. So many simps turned to red pill and now just hate women.
Two min in and Pearl is way more based than Lauren
By "based" do you mean she says a lot of stuff while not living what she preaches/no skin in the game (as she likes to say)? Is she training to be a nun or does she have zero interest in marriage and having children? She seems to be putting her Internet fame over the values she preaches... How very feminist of her.
Lauren’s personal concept of biblical Christianity is entirely influenced by modern culture and she continually rejects patriarchal hierarchy. Just one of the many issues with America’s brand of evangelical Protestantism.
It's always been that way.
I KNOW! its womens fault men beat them!
Lauren is a make-up tutorial youtuber... why the fuck would anyone take her political takes seriously?
50% of Billionaires are divorced. Boom. Mic drop 😂😂
Nah nah she said "boom, disregard." That was hard.
@@mrkennady hahaha. Lol. Yes.
Listening to Lauren Chen is painful. She is so fake. She has to be a plant. She can't debate at all.
Agree.
I don't know, I have been debating this exact premise. But I find myself constantly coming back to the fact that she's a woman and does as a woman does. Attention, notoriety, exposure, etc.
I guess the real question is if she is a conservative Christian wife as she claims to be, then why is she in the attention sphere, and not tending to her house and home?
This is the problem with UA-camrs who don't debate and instead live in an echo chamber. Their ideas don't get challenged.
I disagree.
because she doesnt even understand her own position, all she does is react to videos nothing original and nothing really to say
Pearl won this one
She definitely did, but she did copout on the race issue imo
@dustinheffker3524 I can't believe she used to race card 😢 i was like what does race have to do with anything and she still said nothing lol
Once that girl got smoked on the crowder questions I could no longer take anything she said seriously
Yup! She is a feminist pretending to be Christian conservative
Time stamp for the crowder discussion?
48:40
Lauren had a debate with Andrew Wilson recently and learned many other points. Give her the time to retool. It takes a special person, years to deprogram, and as Andrew stated in that debate, paraphrasing, “We need your help on this side.”
This I’m halfway through now - the orthodox lady is cooking. So is Pearl - she totally had them when she asked who remained celibate before marriage. Like really? You’re going to preach all over the place about how husbands need to be godly and you didn’t even stay abstinent before marriage? And you weren’t even willing to admit, yeah I was wrong, we were impure before marriage, I had to ask God’s forgiveness, etc.
Lauren was right for calling out Steven Crowder's bad behavior (and yes, it is everyone's place to do so; no one gets to hide behind "it's not your place to criticize"). You also can't complain that your wife isn't obeying you if you're failing to love and honor her (e.g., literally telling your wife you don't love her).
Lauren Southard is drunk on camera constantly. Was her husband ever there condoning that behavior?
Southern is the woman Pearl condemns. Southern has self-admitted she has blue-pilled since her divorce.
Pearl and Rachel won.
No.
@@parhammotorsports6125 Lauren has adopted a bunch of points from Rachel's book and her husband Andrew's arguments.
How is that not conceding?
Pearl is a communist
@@parhammotorsports6125 yes
You must like very masculine women.