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Pittsburgh Power's Max Mileage Fuel Borne Catalyst with an interview with creator Jane Gates, Part 1
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2024
- Is Pittsburgh Power's Fuel Borne Catalyst the new "snake oil," we don't think so. Here is a review of the product along with testimonials from truck drivers with different engines all having similar results. This may be the best thing to hit our industry for a long time and could potentially save owner operators from bankruptcy by allowing the emission systems to work more efficiently. We interviewed it's creator, Jane Gates, and I think you'll love to hear her explanation of what this product is.
Jane is a very genuine and awesome person. I was struggling with after-treatment issues that was threatening to break me. I was skeptical, but in desperation, I began using the catalyst. It made all the difference, and I believe, it saved my business. I've been using the catalyst continuously for 500,000 miles. There have not been any adverse effects. The re-gens take place passively and unless I happen to exit the freeway during one, I would never know it was happening. I almost never see the HEST light. My DPF lasts longer between cleanings and looks great when disassembled. There is well researched science behind this product. Yes, it's expensive, but I stay on the road and earning for an affordable price...no shocks to my wallet from unexpected repairs or uncomfortable conversations over late deliveries. Try about 3 gallons before giving it a verdict. I am confident you will love it also. P.S. I transfer mine into a 1 gallon red gas jug with a valve neck and it's easier to dispense and no vapors. Just like gasoline it will attack certain plastics.
How long have you been using the product?
@@Mike_Greentea 5 years and over 500K miles, no bad side effects
I became a subscriber and I'm in the 4th galon. I subscribed
in the first week after I rebuilt the engine , this product really works on my 2016 389. It made the brake in process incredibly smooth and now the truck runs like a dream, regens are in the 10000 miles range.
That's great to hear!! I wish you luck with your new engine and hope everything keeps going great!!
Mine 12.7 blowing smoke now 3rd fillup. Power increase was immediate, just ordered whole bucket.just got a new f-250 powerstroke, put maxmilleage in first tank, now over 1000 miles and no regens when it should regenerate every 500 miles. It’s not for mileage, use your foot for that, it’s for keeping engine and emissions clean
My friend runs a 389 pete and has always used Pittsburgh power. He ran 575 thousand miles before he had to bake his DPF filter . The shop was very impressed and was amazed he got that many miles out of his system . He has an ISX 565 , 1850 fpt.
I'm an owner-operator for 34 years and a long-term consumer of this catalyst. Speaking with Jane, I learned that the catalyst was used in underground mining operations to improve the air quality. She said that she had tests done in river boat tugs running up and down the Mississippi river with identical side-by-side diesels. The engines were maintained in the same way. They automatically balanced when running. When one engine was working harder, it slowed slightly and the other one sped up slightly to always balance the workload. The one engine that was being fueled with the catalyst added, showed an increase in fuel economy. She and Bruce Mallinson at Pittsburgh Power conducted a dynamometer test, (to eliminate human throttle inputs, wind, and terrain differences) before and after catalyst use, on a well-maintained engine, and then conducted the same test a little later to show a "return to baseline" for the engine. Jane is a scientist (PhD in chemical engineering) and she knows how to structure tests to eliminate as many variables as possible to get results that are beyond anecdotal. She also understands what is happening on a molecular level during combustion. She left a good job and dedicated her career to building her company. She went through some difficult times that would not have been possible without confidence in that decision. She knows without a doubt, in a scientific way, that the catalyst brings value beyond it's price to it's users. Pittsburgh Power has been helping truck owners attain improved performance and economy for decades and has partnered with her company to distribute and make the product conveniently available, at no additional cost! Use it, or don't, it's a choice. I see it as a wise investment in the success of my business.
Thank you so much for taking time to share that long story. I did not know that as my interaction with Jane was fairly brief. Because of this product I feel that this will change our industry for those willing to listen. I am honored to be somebody that is testing a new "Jane Gates" product. I'm not willing to talk to much about it but Bruce Mallinson let the cat out of the bag just a little lol. I can't wait to talk more about it!! Thank you again
@@truckingresources4240 Awesome, I can't wait to see your coverage!
@@truckingresources4240 Was it Pittsburgh Power's new Flashpoint diesel additive? Lol
I love this stuff, works great for what it is intended for. You don't want it under the bunk though, keep it outside because it has a very strong chemical smell even when sealed shut. I had it shipped to the ups store where I get my mail and packages since I'm never home, and they called to tell me I need to come get it because it smells so bad.
I transfer mine into a 1 gallon red plastic gas jug with a valve in the neck to carry it in the side box. It's easier to dispense and no fumes. Steps have been taken to resolve the leakage in shipping but I have (occasionally) experienced it also.
Great video! This product saves you a bundle on emissions trucks. You should include the guy from DPF Alternatives to your next video. He has teamed with PP to offer a warranty on DPF cleaning.
DPF Alternatives is where I try and take all of my after treatment maintenance. They're specialists and their process is better for the DPF filter than most competitors. Also, most of their shops are dealers for Max Mileage. If you have questions or doubts about using Max Mileage, call up a DPF Alternatives shop and hear what they have to say. They're a growing business with a reputation to uphold, they're not going to risk their success helping another company sell bogus products to their customers.
I have been using this for a year and I am not going to stop using it. I don't fully understand how this works, but the first tank. 250 gallons. I noticed better mileage. Not a lot but maybe .3 tenths. The next tank I noticed better running. Over a year I am still using it. Funny how MANY people want immediate results but don't want to pay any money. You have to spend money to make money. Don't spend money to repair what you could have avoided. LABOR IS EXPENSIVE and shops love to sell you STUFF. So its up to you. I will buy this product until I stop trucking. Maybe longer. No product is a miracle. But this is close. I use it in my Harley, 2005 gmc gas. And yep the lawn mower. Hey if it works. You will not know till you try.
So I started using the catalyst in the past month and a half with my 2018 Cummins X15, and I've noticed that I haven't seen my High Exhaust Temperature light come on froming coming to a stop after driving a while. Also, after I have been sitting for a good while I do hear the regen process start but it only lasts for maybe 5 minutes.
The engine does seem to run smoother and quieter. I don't believe I've seen any improvement with fuel economy as of yet though, but I also understand that's not the main purpose of this catalyst. And I must say, after having two trucks in my driving career have so many DPF issues and constant shop time because of it, I will continue to use this product over time because it does seem to work so far.
I'll update with results later on.
Thank you, Please do keep us updated. I am getting testimonials like this all the time!!
@@truckingresources4240 So an update: I topped off my DEF on Tuesday night (6/28) and I didn't need to fill it again until Sunday (7/03) I believe that's the longest I've gone without needing to refill DEF. That was going from Wisconsin to El Paso, then back up to Kansas City with the truck almost constantly running. No major regens needed either. My truck is still doing just a 5 minute regen when I'm idling for a while, and still no High Exhaust Temperature light coming on. 2018 KW T680 with almost 508k miles on it and a Cummins engine.
@@Longhauler85 Everything you're noticing is exactly what M.M. does. Been using it for 500K miles in a 2013 ISX. It's not very accurate due to the wide variance in DEF noozles, but I check the MPG on my DEF usage exactly the way I do my diesel, and I went from 140mpg to 180mpg. Fewer and shorter regens save fuel and necessarily means less soot converted to ash, which plugs the DPF over-time. Less DEF at $3-4/gallon alone offsets the price of M.M. Not to mention a cleaner DPF means less exhaust restriction: more power to the ground, and delayed drop-off of MPG as the DPF would have plugged sooner. It's impossible to say how much that is saving.
i have a 2004 379 with cat acert bxs pulling my dryvan i was getting 4.5 average at the pump i started to use maxmillage i had 1/2 tanks i added 3 oz i did 5.1 then my first time with full tanks i added 5oz to each tank i did 5.6 with a light load then i pu a load from mobile alabama to kirkwood,NY i have 44k on the trailer lots of hills on 81 and i did 5.1 im still reviewing this product hopefully i can do better but still i’ll take the 5.1 than the 4.5 i was getting before maxmillage
I will give testimony. This stuff is the real deal.
After 2 days use, my system corrected itself and no amber light. For DPF. Saved me a trip to the shop, but I'll still get it checked but worth the price of admission. Oh and by the way I'm running a 2020 Freightliner DD 15 engine.
Just ordered my first gallon. I've been wanting to try it for a long time and kept putting it off. I listen to road dog trucking channel all the time and Pittsburgh power is on kevin rutherfords show every Tuesday. Keep in mind it was not designed for better fuel mileage, if you get better mpgs that is only a plus. Everyone who has ever called in on the show about the catalysts has never said anything bad about it.
I agree Randy, I actually don't love the name of it because people think it's gonna get them mileage guaranteed. Where it will get you the "Max Mileage" is the mileage you when your wheels are turning instead of sitting at the dealer while they try to figure out which sensor to fix. Thanks for the comment!!
I used it in my 2013 F150 Ecoboost with 155,000 miles. Before this I always had carbon buildup on tail pipe. At first use of Max Power I seen no sign of that black carbon buildup. I have to say I am 100% happy with the results.
I love it!! When I run it in my paccar mx13 it runs better and does what they claim, also the combo of HotShot and max mileage makes the pickup run a lot better
I have no experience with Hot Shot. Is it worth it to use and safe to use with Max Mileage? Or would Lucas Fuel additive work just as well?
@@Longhauler85 I think so, max mileage adds no lubricant to the fuel system so I doubt that’s a bad combo for your engine , and I would encourage you to try hot shot and see what you think, also I got turned on to it because of the CP4 pump in my duramax
And I hear Lucas is good but don’t know for sure
@@seansclassoictrucks I'll do more research on it but I'll definitely look into it. I appreciate the feedback!
Everyone I know, including myself, that uses the fuel catalyst agree it cleans tremendously. Nobody has seen any increased fuel mileage. If you're running a late model truck you should use it.
I’m on my 3rd fill up on a 2019 Pete with Paccar Mx-13 and it feels like I lost power especially going up hills. I probably got an underlying issue with something. But before I used the product the truck wanted a regen everyday now nothing
Just tried this stuff yesterday. Bought a gallon on my second fill up. Noticed my truck runs much better. 2017 W9 550. It always ran rough and in the winter it was terrible. Now much smoother, big difference. Was very skeptical but I'm sure it's working by the way the truck runs. To soon for any other info but will update in the next few weeks.
That's awesome, can't wait to see your results in the future!!
Update?
Will this stuff help keep nox sensors clean or is that to far down the emissions line?... My major issues.
Was there any update on the end results of the amount of soot from using Max Mileage in the Dorothy??
I'm going to be starting today, with my 565 Cummins. Quick question though, do you add to both tanks or just put the 12 ounces in one side?
2020 389 Pete
Just gonna put it in both sides lol
@@claudetorma4641 Sorry for the late response, I was on vacation. You definitely want to put it in both sides because the transformation happens in your tank before it goes through your engine. Hope this helps.
I got to meet Jane, Bruce, and Kevin today at the truck show
I have actually never met Kevin but I did talk to Jane and Bruce at the show, what a class act those two are!!
I tried using this product on my 88 Nissan ud and now my rig won’t start up. Anyone have an idea why?
I run it in everything gas diesel. Not made for mileage just meant to clean the emissions and burn more efficiently
Did you ever make the part 2 to this video I couldn't find it
I did not yet, I had to change test trucks. Hopefully I can get it out in the next couple months
I've seen it at the Oak Grove 70, and Kenly 95 this past week, for about $250 per gallon. I almost shit my drawers! I picked up a half gallon to try it. I regularly take off my manifolds and both sensors, which all have regularly been sooty. I'll only have about 1500 miles of driving with the MM, but will check everything when I get home this week. I'm not expecting anything great, as 1500 miles isn't much time, but I will clean them if sooty, and check again next home time to see if still fairly soot free. Again, I wouldn't expect soot free. Another thing. They need to include a measuring tube. I thought I was putting in the right about, but at second usage, I realized I went through about a third. Waaay too much, and a waste of $$! So, used a clean Lucas injector cleaner bottle, with the ounce indicator. I'll pick up something this week that works a little better.
You are right, you used way too much. Also, let me say that it's awesome that you can buy it at the Iowa 80's but as most people know, they are rip offs. It's great for you to try it but as you see the results look for another distributor. The price that everybody else is charging is $220 per gallon for the same stuff. If you buy it direct and buy the little cup and follow the directions that gallon will last you for a long time. I can't wait for you to see the results, Thanks for the comment!!
@@truckingresources4240
Appreciate the reply.
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Update?
Can I use for VOLVO ENGINE D13?
Any good for a 2017 dodge ram 6.7 cummins I know egr cooler have been known to clogged up
This is exactly what you need for that truck!
Have you been using this product? I have a 2018 6.7 H.O. Cummins.
I just used this for 2 weeks. I honestly can’t say I’m seeing any significant improvement yet on Mpg
Neither have I, I have however saw an improvement in soot levels in my engine. What are you running (year, engine, etc.) Maybe I can show you where you will se the results!! Hopefully it can help you, just want to see drivers succeed.
It’s not for fuel economy, it’s for emissions
The main benefit is in helping an emissions-compliant truck work in the real world. The cleaner the fuel burns in the combustion chamber, the happier the after-treatment system will be and the less aggravation it will give you and the less time you will spend in the shop at $100+/hr. You may see something like 1/2 mpg improvement and better DEF mileage. I average about 180 miles per gallon of DEF from a 550 ISX. If you're an
O/O this is a wise investment.
The product does exactly what it says it does emissions wise. Unfortunately it reeks hell on truck fuel filters and APU fuel filters. At least on an X15 and my APU.
First 3 week my fuel filter was 2inches of black soot don’t know but my motor running way better
What’s good bro do you still use this stuff and if so how good do it work for you stumble on this stuff and trying to see if it really works
@@dariuskennedybey5710 yeah I still use it no def problems or forced regins
Asphaltene deposits being cleaned up by the catalyst. This was mentioned in the interview. Side benefit from the product. My understanding: the super high injection pressures in modern diesels causes these molecules to separate from the fuel. They will cause issues with the injectors if allowed to accumulate.
I got my first bottle last week
ok how about small trucks how does it work for them and other def equipment?
Try it, it works great on all dpf and def equip. There are a lot of testimonials.
My egr is 70 percent plugged and freind of mine suggested I try this so I'll let u know how it goes
EGR is the worst aspect of the newer engines. Unfiltered exhaust, cooled and put straight into the intake manifold... terrible situation!!!
The catalyst produces cleaner exhaust and less soot going through the EGR cooler and into the intake manifold. Less soot being ingested by the engine should mean that it lasts longer.
Getting my head replaced had them take the egr off and took it home cleaned it should be good for a while now
@@keithmyers8397 I have an ISX Cummins, Keith and I try and pull the IMAP sensor from the intake manifold from time to time to see how clean it looks. It's an easy way to get a look into how much soot is present in the EGR system. I clean it with 91% rubbing alcohol and an old toothbrush before replacing it, making sure to bump it gently against my aluminum step plate to try and empty whatever soot is in the bore that goes up to the pressure sensing diaphragm. Let it dry and replace it. Helps the sensor get a more accurate reading and the ECM to have better data to control the fuel/air ratio.
Update?
Very expensive for someone running 12000 miles a month
Would like to know if Jane is aware of another company selling the same product under a different name?
Fuel Factor X,I believe it’s called.
Is it the same stuff?
Jane did not invent it. It is used by PSA (Peugeot/Citroen) diesels, called Eolys fluid. Walker sells it for aftermarket.
If you think it cost to much add all the sensors and labor you will spend money on see how cheap it is
How did the Dorothy/catalyst test go?
We have not finished the test yet. We want to make sure that it is a long term test. Please stand by!! Awesome question, I think youll be happy when we have an answer!!
Oops. Just realized I've been putting it in a different bottle
you should try it in your car..WOW like having a rocket ship on wheels!!!
We use it in both of our cars and everything gas and diesel that we own. Definitely works great!!
They should just add it to fuel at the PUMP!! Screw this aftermarket BS.
Hi Trucker Ron. Jane Gates here :).Thanks for your feedback. I have gotten this comment a lot over the years. Yes, treating upstream fuel distribution points with the FBC would make sense. This is because the benefit of 10% on average increased combustion efficiency is so dramatic in lowering emissions. The case for government oversite to implement at the pump is indeed compelling. Unfortunately, it's simply never going to happen. The explanations I have to offer are long and complex - so I will spare you. Suffice to say that the adoption of Better Diesel FBC, a.k.a., Max Mileage FBC, by end-users and retail distribution are both advancing well as determined by free market forces.
I’m interested but I’m seeing that is out of stock
Kenneth since I made this video I have become a distributor for them. I have over 30 gallons right now and I don't think that there are any shortages anywhere. www.finchresources.com
Does it works with Volvo D13 engine?
Yes sir it does. It works with all diesel and gas engines
Just did the diesel force clean and bought the Max mileage. So far in the first week 5 road side regens and one derated me to 5mph. I won't buy anymore of that crap
Hi Super Trucker. I am really sorry to hear that and would really like to understand your situation in more detail. First things first, did you call Pittsburgh Power to report this situation? I would suggest that you run it by them first. Pittsburgh Power does a great job with product support. And, we all stand to learn something new by working together to better understand your situation in particular. The folks at Pittsburgh Power will consult with me if need be. Since you are their customer you should reach out to them with this issue. I sincerely hope that you will. Thanks. -Jane
@@janegates7192 After I expressed my grievances Pittsburgh took care of me and I continue to use max mileage. It might have had something to do with the tune or something else but eventually worked itself out
@@supertrucker1356 So glad to hear that... Thank you!
Paid testimonial??
I can assure you that I do not get paid. This is something that I believe in. I haven't found anybody yet that can dispute the product with facts but I am totally willing to hear both sides.
I love this product
@@exposefrauds3929 I think he said free shipping since he is a subscriber.
He got a free gallon and a hand job.