The biggest gimmick in performance nutrition is when companies rely on famous and well-liked athletes to market for them, and make it seem as if those same athletes not only endorse but use the products in their own training.
Because everything was so confusing (and expensive) for an avarege joe like me, i startet mixing my own gels with maltodextrin 12, grapejuice and honey, with a bit of salt and cytrus. Comes down to less than 1€ for 90g Carbs/hour
I agree. 50g maltrodextrin 1 teaspoons table sugar, pinch of sea salt and syrup based cordial to taste in a 750ml bottle filled with water. Cheap and tastes as good as the cordial you use.
Been going down a rabbit hole trying to replicate an electrolyte product for use in the gym (to save $$$). So glad I found this. Sodium Citrate and Maltodextrin it is!
One of the things I hate about a lot of products is how horrible they taste when they get hot, but now I have an even better reason to avoid most products - I had always wondered if I'd get sick from them getting so hot. I'll stick to products that won't make me sick, thanks!
Magnesium actually has a profound effect on hydration. It is required to keep sodium and potassium in proper balance. You lose a lot of calcium, magnesium, and potassium in sweat along with sodium.
You're totally right that it affects hydration. But, magnesium is lost at less than 1% the rate of sodium loss during exercise, and it is exceptionally rare for someone to experience hypomagnesemia due to exercise, no matter how intensely they're exercising or how sweaty they are. The "calcium, magnesium, and potassium" triad of mostly useless minerals during exercise exists so strongly in all of our minds because it was pushed first, most prominently, by Powerade as a way to differentiate themselves from Gatorade. Since then, many of the hydration beverage manufacturers have realized that including more ions in their mix tends to help them sell more of it.
Some product lines claim to have some new, proprietary carbohydrates that are specially formulated and unique. Most often, it's just maltodextrin or cluster dextrin described in a vague way or subject to enough extra processing that they can call it something else. The result is the same: it delivers glucose.
Depends on how hydrolyzed! If it's broken all the way down into something like corn syrup, it's not bad for fuel. If it's still left kind of "starchy" (many molecules still needing enzymatic breakdown in your gut, it's going to be slower to digest, which poses problems for gut comfort during exercise. Faster digestion is virtually always better during exercise, especially the harder and warmer the exercise gets.
Biggest gimmick: Maurten's Unofficial product line: unbranded packaging (basic grey gel packet, no logos, no writing) to promote that un-sponsored pros are using the product in secret instead of their sponsored nutrition. "Our product is so good that Pros are going behind their sponsors back to use our amazing product, so should you!'' What a joke but amazing advertising strategy.
If you use a ratio of 1:1 of malto+fruc it is the same thing as plain sugar. The only difference is that you can balance the ratios if you mix them separately.
Lol I have a tube of Roctane. Though I have not gotten sick like you guys I have not noticed any assistance from that particular product. I won't be buying it again as it's quite expensive. I still rate having aminos in your drink bottle. Optimum Energy is good and much cheaper. It has a bit of caffeine and taurine.
POTASSIUM I would love to understand why they say it is not important for fuel. WIthout you are surely going to cramp is the impression I have gotten over the years
That impression is almost certainly wrong. If there is one electrolyte that is more strongly related to cramp prevention, it's sodium. It helps maintain hydration and prevents dehydration-related fatigue. Potassium often causes more problems than it solves. It will actually cause you urinate out more sodium. Not a good thing when you're trying to hang onto blood volume (hydration)!
@@davidmaco1 RDI's are a good place to start! www.google.com/search?q=rdi+potassium&rlz=1C1ASRM_enUS929US959&oq=RDI+potassium&aqs=chrome.0.0i512l4j0i22i30l2j0i390i650l2.5183j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Probably doesn't hurt to have *some* potassium in your fuel, but when you're at your gut limits, or thermally challenged, less is more.
I always love seeing the made up scientific terms- man they reallllly are having to make up acronyms that shouldn't exist to promote an expensive product that doesn't need to exist 😂
Too true. We LOL'd a lottle (it's like a little, but a lot) at AJ21. We get it. Marketing pays the bills. And we feel for Dr. AJ. He's been a great contributor to the scientific community for a long time.
Isotonic useless ? It's probably a marketing gimmick but saying salt/sodium is useless during your endurance effort is a straight lie. I know you talk about sodium later & isotonic is probably overused but in this case it doesn't mean it's useless. Magnesium don't impact endurance sport significantly : What endurance sport ? What is non-significant ? What duration ? Because from what I learned the best trailers use magnesium. And they're probably the best because they know what to use or not ? You're alex a phd in sport but what does it mean in reality ? Michelle your were 5th in road cycling nationals but where is your current pro status in trathlon ? You're both probably smart but also a bit shady.
If you've watched any of the channel's videos, you'd know they are far from saying sodium is useless. It's the marketing buzzword they're focusing on here.
The biggest gimmick in performance nutrition is when companies rely on famous and well-liked athletes to market for them, and make it seem as if those same athletes not only endorse but use the products in their own training.
Strong contender here.
Because everything was so confusing (and expensive) for an avarege joe like me, i startet mixing my own gels with maltodextrin 12, grapejuice and honey, with a bit of salt and cytrus.
Comes down to less than 1€ for 90g Carbs/hour
Have you tried doing it with the app yet?
I agree. 50g maltrodextrin 1 teaspoons table sugar, pinch of sea salt and syrup based cordial to taste in a 750ml bottle filled with water. Cheap and tastes as good as the cordial you use.
Been going down a rabbit hole trying to replicate an electrolyte product for use in the gym (to save $$$). So glad I found this. Sodium Citrate and Maltodextrin it is!
Love saving $$$. :)
Thanks for this video. We need this video so badly. I’m going to share this.
Thank you!!
Great video, simple, informative, and to the point 👍🏽
Thanks Eduardo. Glad you enjoyed it.
Genuinely helpful - ty!
You're welcome!
One of the things I hate about a lot of products is how horrible they taste when they get hot, but now I have an even better reason to avoid most products - I had always wondered if I'd get sick from them getting so hot. I'll stick to products that won't make me sick, thanks!
mmm.... warm milk protein.
Magnesium actually has a profound effect on hydration. It is required to keep sodium and potassium in proper balance.
You lose a lot of calcium, magnesium, and potassium in sweat along with sodium.
You're totally right that it affects hydration. But, magnesium is lost at less than 1% the rate of sodium loss during exercise, and it is exceptionally rare for someone to experience hypomagnesemia due to exercise, no matter how intensely they're exercising or how sweaty they are. The "calcium, magnesium, and potassium" triad of mostly useless minerals during exercise exists so strongly in all of our minds because it was pushed first, most prominently, by Powerade as a way to differentiate themselves from Gatorade. Since then, many of the hydration beverage manufacturers have realized that including more ions in their mix tends to help them sell more of it.
Some product lines claim to have some new, proprietary carbohydrates that are specially formulated and unique. Most often, it's just maltodextrin or cluster dextrin described in a vague way or subject to enough extra processing that they can call it something else. The result is the same: it delivers glucose.
Bingo!
Also, you should do a debunking of Prime. My kids' friends are going crazy for it.
It's like G2 but double the price. Debunking complete.
What do you think about enzymatically hydrolyzed corn starch?
Depends on how hydrolyzed! If it's broken all the way down into something like corn syrup, it's not bad for fuel. If it's still left kind of "starchy" (many molecules still needing enzymatic breakdown in your gut, it's going to be slower to digest, which poses problems for gut comfort during exercise. Faster digestion is virtually always better during exercise, especially the harder and warmer the exercise gets.
Biggest gimmick: Maurten's Unofficial product line: unbranded packaging (basic grey gel packet, no logos, no writing) to promote that un-sponsored pros are using the product in secret instead of their sponsored nutrition. "Our product is so good that Pros are going behind their sponsors back to use our amazing product, so should you!'' What a joke but amazing advertising strategy.
Marketing level Jedi.
Hey! I got a question) What's the difference between using maltodextrin + fructose, and plain sugar? Thank you!
If you use a ratio of 1:1 of malto+fruc it is the same thing as plain sugar. The only difference is that you can balance the ratios if you mix them separately.
Very little difference. Cost, primarily. Maybe mixability too because malto can require a bit more shaking. :)
Table sugar is basically fructose
@@paulwright1150 what ?)
Lol I have a tube of Roctane. Though I have not gotten sick like you guys I have not noticed any assistance from that particular product. I won't be buying it again as it's quite expensive. I still rate having aminos in your drink bottle. Optimum Energy is good and much cheaper. It has a bit of caffeine and taurine.
Glad you've avoided our misfortune!
POTASSIUM I would love to understand why they say it is not important for fuel. WIthout you are surely going to cramp is the impression I have gotten over the years
That impression is almost certainly wrong. If there is one electrolyte that is more strongly related to cramp prevention, it's sodium. It helps maintain hydration and prevents dehydration-related fatigue. Potassium often causes more problems than it solves. It will actually cause you urinate out more sodium. Not a good thing when you're trying to hang onto blood volume (hydration)!
@@Saturday_ProFuel how much potassium do you recommend a person to have a daily dosage? just average
@@davidmaco1 RDI's are a good place to start! www.google.com/search?q=rdi+potassium&rlz=1C1ASRM_enUS929US959&oq=RDI+potassium&aqs=chrome.0.0i512l4j0i22i30l2j0i390i650l2.5183j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Probably doesn't hurt to have *some* potassium in your fuel, but when you're at your gut limits, or thermally challenged, less is more.
I always love seeing the made up scientific terms- man they reallllly are having to make up acronyms that shouldn't exist to promote an expensive product that doesn't need to exist 😂
Too true. We LOL'd a lottle (it's like a little, but a lot) at AJ21. We get it. Marketing pays the bills. And we feel for Dr. AJ. He's been a great contributor to the scientific community for a long time.
Isotonic useless ? It's probably a marketing gimmick but saying salt/sodium is useless during your endurance effort is a straight lie. I know you talk about sodium later & isotonic is probably overused but in this case it doesn't mean it's useless.
Magnesium don't impact endurance sport significantly : What endurance sport ? What is non-significant ? What duration ? Because from what I learned the best trailers use magnesium. And they're probably the best because they know what to use or not ?
You're alex a phd in sport but what does it mean in reality ?
Michelle your were 5th in road cycling nationals but where is your current pro status in trathlon ?
You're both probably smart but also a bit shady.
Zing! Thanks for playing! And for the (very) honest feedback. It's the only kind we like.
If you've watched any of the channel's videos, you'd know they are far from saying sodium is useless. It's the marketing buzzword they're focusing on here.