This is a Disgrace.
Вставка
- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Thanks to Nord VPN for sponsoring this video! Get 4 months extra on a 2 year plan here: nordvpn.com/an... It’s risk free with Nord’s 30 day money-back guarantee!
Hey guys, this is a video I didn't want to have to make. But the fact of the matter is the Australian Broadcasting Corporation or the ABC. Decided it was acceptable and proper to air a documentary sharing the "Russian side of the conflict".
The Documentary in question is "Ukraine's War: The Other Side" and it has caused an international incident between Australia and Ukraine to the extent that the Ukrainian ambassador requested a meeting to discuss the issue.
The ABC has not only not backed down on this issue but publicly defended the documentary and their decision to air it. Now I have no problems as such with a documentary reviewing the Russian perspective of the conflict, however the journalism displayed in this documentary was no journalism at all. It was a propaganda sob story where the only narrative shared was that of the Kremlin''s while both the presenter and the editing of the documentary attempt to present a sympathetic view of the Russian forces currently waging their illegal war in Ukraine.
So. I am having my say on it and dismantling it.
Support the Channel on Patreon:
/ animarchy
Thanks to Nord VPN for sponsoring this video! Get 4 months extra on a 2 year plan here: nordvpn.com/animarchy It’s risk free with Nord’s 30 day money-back guarantee!
Hey guys, this is a video I didn't want to have to make. But the fact of the matter is the Australian Broadcasting Corporation or the ABC. Decided it was acceptable and proper to air a documentary sharing the "Russian side of the conflict".
The Documentary in question is "Ukraine's War: The Other Side" and it has caused an international incident between Australia and Ukraine to the extent that the Ukrainian ambassador requested a meeting to discuss the issue.
The ABC has not only not backed down on this issue but publicly defended the documentary and their decision to air it. Now I have no problems as such with a documentary reviewing the Russian perspective of the conflict, however the journalism displayed in this documentary was no journalism at all. It was a propaganda sob story where the only narrative shared was that of the Kremlin''s while both the presenter and the editing of the documentary attempt to present a sympathetic view of the Russian forces currently waging their illegal war in Ukraine.
So. I am having my say on it and dismantling it.
Support the Channel on Patreon:
www.patreon.com/Animarchy
well too bad they decided to support the view of the kremlin
but tell me about are your thoughts on the russian freedom legion ?
Heros
Fitting, considering NordVPN is from... Northern Europe, and we all know what the baltics think of Russians, heh
@@Konrad-zc1ve what's wrong with the freedom of Russia legion?
@@jim4194 nothing really i just asked a question to what he think about them cuz i'm not sure if he ever talked about them
This is how all australians should justify tax evasion
Lol
Insert Craig Wright joke here.
Hey fuck you I don't need an excuse for tax evasion
Seriously? Don't pay the teachers, don't pay the healthcare, don't pay for the power grid/sewage/roads, don't pay the army and on and on and on because four corners got one wrong??? Are you really that stupid? Yes the ABC should be ashamed but have you any actual idea how a country/tax is run??????? Or why?????
Tax evasion is always justified.
Imagine:
„Hello mr. SS Soldier! What a beautiful day in Poland, isn’t it? Say, do you think there’s truth to the rumors of mass annihilation of Jews and POWs here?“
„Nein“
„You heard it here folks!“
*Documentary titled >Poland‘s war: the other side
Hahhaha you are so mad that people get to see more than your bs. If you think you are so right what are you afraid of? You can't accept not controlling 100% of the information space.
@@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ 🤖🤖🤖
@@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ weak russian troll argument
@@MaticTheProto you see? You are afraid. That's why you are so defensive. You are afraid of people with an opinion different than yours. You guys want to control 100% of the information space and even if 1% is not under your control you can't accept it.
@@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ 2 likes, also why would you not like your own comment?
>Ask Women if she feels safe in a warzone
>Doesn't elaborate further
>leaves
"hello faceless russian soldier, did you commit warcrimes in Bucha"
"Nah"
"Here it is people!!!! Here is the proof!!!!!"
"The west has shown videos, witnesses and material evidence of your crimes. So, do you finally admit it?"
"Nuh uh"
Not what he said at all you either havent watched this documentary at all. I highly doubt you would start accusing a bunch of soldiers of war crimes while in there camp with no protection
@@charliederrick1583Then what is the purpose of this documentary. Whats the purpose if he doesnt ask the important questions and just accepts whatever they say
@@ColdMarty To me, a pro-Ukrainian, it provides an unfiltered representation of Russian soldiers in Ukraine. While Russian media would not be able to release anything more than pro-Russian propaganda from these soldiers, this reporter can go in, get answers, and leave without his work being censored. It allows for the expression of the views of that soldier who saw through the propaganda, while at the same time showing that there are plenty of soldiers who are blinded by such propaganda.
While watching the documentary prior to this video, I never really stopped to think what the reporter was going for and instead took the documentary as it was shown.
@overlord6455 I haven't watched the video so yet, but I hope we can see more do domentaries like these interviewing the soldiers of both sides on the frontlines while staying neutral. Man, it's sad though.
I think the Anzacs who fought for freedom and democracy during world war 2 would be ashamed.
Or the Australian civilians who died on Malaysia airlines.
Blah blah, "freedom", "democracy". Like you do have them.
Let's see what kind of freedom is in Ukraine. Why people in Russia has more freedom?
Who are Ukrainian government depended on almost 100%? Can they be held accountable to the Ukrainian people?
Is the West really so kind so it helps Ukraine just enough to not loose and not win?
How is it possible that on the greatest country in the world the choice is between two very very old man. One of them at least even with dementia.
Look at the West current "culture". Or may I say politics on culture.
There is a reason why so many people prefer more or less honest authoritarian and not really great and not so kind Putin because the West elites are no better or even worse since they have more power.
It is not Putin or his propaganda, but the West elites and Media that makes him look not so bad.
I think the Australians who are tired of the narrative that Ukraine has a chance to win would be happy to see the other side.
Also it matters more as they are still alive and have power in the nation
Considering how far both nations have fallen into thinly veneered dictatorships this report is hardly a blip in comparison.
@@cba46defeatist
Could be worse. I'm Hungarian, you should see what *our* government does on a regular basis. It's a disgrace.
I am sorry for you
You guys seriously need to vote him out.
He is being voted in, he is popular, you are just not a fan
@shootingjester2780
Orbán has legalized numerous forms of voter fraud, including giving non-hungarians with Hungarian ancestry voting rights, and making voting for Fidesz conditional for continued employment in certain public sector jobs.
Sorry you’re stuck with Ghoulash-Putin. Trying hard not to get stuck with Orange Julius Caesar here in the USA.
What the hell ABC. Didn’t expect that from my 4 cents per day
Time to stop giving them any money.
Might not be much, but if you let other people know it could add up
They're paid for by taxes like the bbc so like you kinda can't unless you stop paying taxes
@@jonniezodiacisn’t the bbc funded by the TV license?
Aktchyually, i kind of doubt directors of ABC, Australian goverment or commisioners knew what they were doing by funding this propaganda piece. I don't know who commisioned it, but here's a thing.
Russia - meaning Kremlin's Roskomnadzor and other psyop offices - has infiltrated most big "western" institutions to cause as much subversion to the "western" public opinions as possible.
If they had literal FSB agents interfering in US elections and sponsored GOP extremist fanclub trough sanctioned Kremlin's henchmen (ex.g. Konstantin Nikolayev, look up his connection to M. Johnson, M. Flynn etc.), i'm not at all surprised they compromised a few apparent journalists in ABC. You just cannot go to Russian-occupied territories and ask, say or show whatever you want. You're highly vetted and pre-approved just like absolutely everything that comes out from that side. It's an entire seperate 3rd branch of "Russian propaganda". They know how effective it is for pulling the wool over ignorant westerners' eyes. Everything coming out of Donbas since 2014 has been this way and i could list many examples, but won't do that courtesy here.
This is not journalism, these are their strongest weapons of this hybrid-war. They're an integral part of subversive black-propaganda machine aimed at dividing and destabilising all democratic anglophone countries. I've seen exerts of this job even on Russia's domestic branch of wartime propaganda used with great effect. The "westerners" aiding them, like these producers, should be treated similar to Nazi-collaborators during WW2 and prosecuted. I'll actualy campaign and do everything in my small powers that they will have to answer for becoming traitors under the law of ICC or where applicable eventually. If he was from my own Eastern European country, he'd face criminal charges immediately and either do time or would be exiled to Russia. This is a info-war not only ON Ukraine, but on all democracies and rules-based world order. It's not physical - yet - as Russia cannot afford to expand for now. The situation is more screwed than most people realise. History will tell how well we deal with it.
@@jonniezodiac As an American, I shall provide the tar and feathers.
I disagree and have several other productions I am currently pitching to ABC; "Josef Mengele: Man Behind the Smile", "Stalin and the Gang: Champions of the People", and "Pol Pot: Misunderstood Genius."
I also have some crackin' ideas for kid's educational television - "Dear Adolf: A Child's Guide to Our Fuhrer", "Christmas with Uncle Beria", and "Happy Times with Kim Jong Un."
I hope to hear back soon from the network.
😂 Excellent.
Hahaha, good one
"Armenia's Massacre: The Other Side."
You have my vote for "Christmas with Uncle Beria". ABC will eat it right up along with "Cooking with Idi Amin". Better hurry before the BBC digs "Around Europe with the SS" out of their archives.
@@tjenadonn6158 With special guests Anna Kasparian and Hasan Abi
The guy who spoke his mind has probably had 'an accident'.
Fell out the tenth story of a basement apartment.
His plane mysteriously crashed
Or he "committed suicide"
Drowned in a sink.
Better save this video, state broadcasting companies have a habit of copyright claiming reaction videos
already downloaded it
judging by body language of the guy denying the Bucha massacre alone... Yeah... he fucking knows... He saw everything...
he probably even saw it from the point of view of his rifle too 😡
Wow. A real expert emerges)
He knows, he’s been there and he’s telling the truth
Look at those fucking eyes and the way he is clearly tweaked tf out.
He had the bulging wild eyes of a pure psychopath.
I've met a woman who was at Bucha. The sheer look of trauma and *hurt* in her eyes...Christ love her
This isn't Ukraine's war, it's Russia's war against Ukraine.
What does reality have to do with anything?
Correction
It's Russia's war against freedom
@@paolocalzone7186 that's more of an amendment than a correction, I reckon.
@@paolocalzone7186freedom to what?
@@MJ2A Freedom to live
Especially to live without a russian friend "leading" you
I lived for some time in a dorm in Denmark, that also housed ukranian refugees. Despite speaking only russian, it is safe to say that they had not welcomed their "liberators".
Where were they from in Ukraine? Donetsk? Luhansk? Kiev? Not all Ukrainians have the same perspective. I'm just curious, if you asked.
J.A.Q.ing off again, are we?
Stop pretending you care about the answer
@@eatonkuntzyeah man im sure that you really care about the answer and aren't JAQing like you have been throughout the comments here
@@callsignapollo_ no I'm seriously curious about 2 things: 1, did this person take note of where the Ukrainians were from, because region important and knowing that establishes credibility that the commenter cared about reality not a sensational sob story,
And 2, if they were from those eastern regions, I'm curious about the story and I'd like to educate myself
I have a feeling they were from those eastern regions if they only spoke Russian.
@@eatonkuntz Like I said, they only spoke russian so we had limited communication. I know because I helped decifer some stuff from danish via google translate, which is why I know they spoke russian.
I respected their privacy, so I did not pry.
*"States' rights to what?"*
says Sherman calmly
@@murkywateradminssions5219hurr durr R/Shermanposting
"Get Douglas"
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Own property
So the national broadcaster removed any method of complaint about one of its programmes? That's insane and should be illegal.
Here in the UK, the BBC gets a lot of things wrong, but to its credit, it will always allow complaint and is generally open about the complaints it does receive. I mean, that's probably through requirement than desire, but still, very important.
Technically, we still have the Ombudsman to complaint to, and the comments being turned off is just standard for all Australian media networks for some reason. Granted though, the fact that this story was even published in the first place is problematic.
Also Media Watch might have a go at it, just putting that out there.
Edit: Just remembered that Planet America still has it's comments open for some reason, so maybe the ABC is blocking criticism?
I mean lets be honest, Australia's news has kind of always been in the gutter since Murdoch touched it.
That parasite has done a number on America, also.
Thanks, Oz.
The ABC has been one of the few places where you can usually get a mostly balanced and most un-biased view of things in Oz - the fact that it gets regularly criticised by both sides of politics for being biased and partisan is usually enough to be sure its ok.
That doesn't mean it makes mistakes or can get tricked - many years ago it ran a "documentary" called The Great Climate Change Swindle, and the Q&A session afterwards (moderated by Tony Jones) that was very much against the theory of climate change. It was later discovered that the panel and audience of the session had been stacked.
Interestingly, ABC's version of Q&A started about a year later, also hosted by Tony Jones...which then made the...decision...to let Zaky Mallah ask a question...
Murdoch is a modern Midas and anti-Midas in one person. Former, as anything he touches turns Gold... for himself. And latter, because whatever he touched turns into Sh*t for everyone else.
The guy in charge of the ABC now was an editor for Murdoch and headed Sky News. Just look up Kim Williams.
He turned American News into garbage through FOX
The term "Ukraine war" pissed me off.
It's like saying "Polish war" when Nazi Germany & Soviet invaded Poland in WW2
I may mention that
I mean... we do call the Iraq war just that
Or the Afghanistan war, so that's not really that bad, though by the time we called them both governments collapsed long ago and it WAS mostly a civil war
I guess this is symptomatic of Russia wanting to be like the America they "imagined"
@RazorsharpLT "the war on terror" was the naming from the begging.
And yes, the "Iraq war" is a misleading name.
It’s because it takes place there. You people are so sensitive for no reason.
I say we start calling WW2 the 3rd Sino-Japanise war because that was the first shots fired in what eventually became part if WW2. Note I may be wrong about the Japanese invasion of china actually being the first conflict in WW2...
On the subject of looking at the other side of the war, you can try to see things from the perpective of an agressor whilst acknowledging there still in the wrong. Vice Media did a video on the charlottesville rally where the headliners talked to the cameras and they didn't present them as just good people fighting for what they believe in.
I am sick and tired of people pretending that choosing to see things from someone elses perspective means treating them as good eggs who didn't do a thing wrong, and the fact that the abc had the gall to portray its pro-putin propaganda as just hearing everyone else is ridicolous.
Yep : _understanding_ is not the same as _agreeing._
Ah yes, how dare we let people watch something unfiltered and make up their own opinions on something 🙄
@@BananaBearShow4 I dont think you know what "Unfiltered" means. There is nothing unfiltered about that propaganda piece masquerading as a documentary.
"Presenting as" are the keywords. State funded media should not be altering the presentation of journalism.
@@eatonkuntzhow do you propose they treat a journalist using a state-funded outlet for foreign propaganda?
The perfect example of how not to do journalism. I personally think there is actually a limited amout of useful knowledge to be gained in terms of how hard the soldiers actually believe in party line. But having an actual "guide" tell the soldiers what to say defeats the point. The nothing burger questions arent helping either.
PS: Can someone tell me where the "do you feel save" clip comes from?
The clip is from Generation Kill, a 2008 series
Nothing says democracy like having a political officer or a helpful KGB agent around to remind people how to think. Kind of like having masked, armed guards around the voting boots.
"Generation Kill" - good book, good series. Some of the actors play themselves and it goes for realism with a dose of insanity... sorry, just war. Say hi to Mish from me.
On the channel "The China Show" they have a segment called "slopaganda" which fits this entire slop of a documentary.
And people ask why I hate the Australian Government and Elite
Australia is a puppet economy of the US, China and the corporate elite. We can’t even vote for our own prime minister, and besides the governor general can terminate the PM at any time they want if they don’t like them.
honestly i don't mind the idea of seeing the "Russian side" of the war in ukraine to better understand the mindset but you should also measure it with facts, if a Russian interpretation is blatantly untrue, have a moment where you correct it
And if your handlers kept your mouth shut, then make relevant comments in edit.
@@KaptajnKaffe exactly
Yes.. I can't say I trust the Russian government when I don't trust any government either. But I wish all soldiers can return to their homes. If you're going to fight, make no complications about it.
You can watch Arte tracks fake news English version.
Ah, but that'd be _journalism_ you see, and Sean didn't want to do that
The idea of a Communist party being right wing Conservative is wild to say the least.
Stalinism, what else?
That’s practically all of them east of Germany.
Some people don't buy that liberal/authoritarian values can be found in both left and right ideologies and exist independently from how one might believe wealth should be distributed. ie communist is authoritarian therefor it cannot be liberal in nature so must exist on the right.
I guess if you add that with going back to the way things use to be for the sake of it without really think through what that means you might arrive to that opinion.
@fl1tz4r
Wot?? If you're getting paid for this, at least try to make sense.
@@devilin100 within the context of russia's political history (for example) it would be a reactionary ideology, therefore making it right wing. now to anywhere that didnt go communist it would be super left wing economically and extremely authoritarian on the typical 2d political chart. I personally think these charts need to have the context of (your country's) political history factored into them.
Your anger is more than justified. I'm amazed you kept somewhat calm, I certainly would have gone nuts.
“I thought I might’ve gone too far to see the other side” gee, you THINK!?
Just in case you still weren't convinced the Russians are cartoonishly evil, the guy speaking at 23:50 is wearing what appears to be a Night Lords patch.
For those unfamiliar with Warhammer 40k lore; the Night Lords are a space marine legion who specialize in terror tactics, torture and war crimes in general. They are the guys you send when you want make an example of someone. And when I say that they specialize in terror tactics, I don't mean like Al-Qaeda, I mean they are a group of literal serial killers who are recruited from a young age specifically for their sadistic and murderous tendencies. They follow no creed and believe in no god. They kill and torture simply for the thrill of it. Their MO when taking over planet is to brutalize the inhabitants of a large city and then broadcast their crimes over the entire world for everyone to see, hoping to scare the rest of the populace into surrender. There are few fates worse then being captured alive by the them and considering the setting we're talking about, that's saying something.
However, unlike most other space marines who care about things like courage and honor and willingly seek out strong opponents, the Night Lords couldn't care less about honor and only fight opponents weaker then them and they never pick fights they know they can't win. In other words, they will specifically search for poorly defended civilian settlements to sack and brutalize and then piss themselves and run the second another space marine chapter shows up or anybody that might have a slight chance of being an actual challenge. They are basically the only canon space marines who are cowards and have no redeeming qualities.
All in all definitely not a faction you should be idolizing as a soldier in any war, especially if you are in a documentary about how you're actually the misunderstood good guys, it's just not a good look. I get that Warhammer 40k is big in Russia and he could just be larping and didn't put much thought into it, maybe he doesn't even know what that patch means. But considering the staggering amount of confirmed war crimes committed by the Russians, I doubt it.
Wow, he actually was! At least it wasn't Emperor's Children I guess.
And here I've been thinking of Russia as an incompetent version of the World Eaters.
But alas, THEY believe in a god, one who supports them (usually).
Can we get the Ukrainians to start wearing Salamanders patches? I think it'd be a nice little psyop.
@@Fluffinator129 About the only Astartes Chapter patch I'd give someone some leeway over is either the Ultramarines for being bland but okay, or the Salamanders.
Sure, the Salamanders aren't the greatest at times, but they also seem to give a genuine fuck about regular civilians. Though if I saw a Russian soldier wearing it, I'd laugh.
@@56bturn I see your point and raise you Lamenters
I couldn't tell you where I've seen Russian troops wearing that patch before but I've definitely seen some Russian troops wearing a similar patch, may just be a unit patch that happens to look like the Night Lords symbol.
However a symbol of similar irony for me is that I've heard of Russian Troops (Wagnerites, I believe) wearing the symbol of the Spartan Rangers from the Metro 2033 series, you know, a game series made by Ukrainians. The Rangers in 2033 are supposed to represent the finest soldiers in the Metro, men of honor for whom no sacrifice is too great. Doesn't really represent Wanker Group if you ask me.
eldritch algorithm gods! Hear my call!
THIS IS GOOD SHIT!
First was Tucker and it was expected, now they are comming out of the woodworks screeching.
Ngl I was interested when Tucker went to interview Putin but to know all he really did was sit and monolouge for 2 hours was mildy disappointing, but not unexpected.
What did Tucker do wrong exactly? Are you upset he didn't say "you're a very bad man" every minute?
@@hexapon133 in my opinion, there were two outcomes for that.
Either Tucker does a legitimate interview, and Russia finds an excuse to “arrest him” kinda like what they did a specific woman’s basketball player.
Or Tucker is a mouthpiece for propaganda “the useful idiots” like in that one USSR quote.
Tucker was a mouthpiece for Fox News, and he switched to a mouthpiece for Russia Today.
I would call that a step down.
@@oatdilemma6395 Tucker didn’t do anything during the interview that’s the problem.
Despite claiming to be an industry leading journalist, he is a joke that spreads misinformation and disinformation
@@oatdilemma6395 Keep the old man on track and push back when the old fool claims poland started ww2.
The documentary is so infuratingly bad I kept having to take breaks and go do something else every few minutes so I could bear to watch more.
My home is now very clean, I have learned several new words of Polish and am about to go out running.
Thank you Animarchy; you made me productive trough the power of cringe.
Why am I not remotely surprised.
I have seen other commentators say that, Russian soldier who refuted the typical Vatnik catch call,is wearing a Freedom from Russia Legion patch. Going on to say that he is a defector.
I'm *pretty* sure he isn't wearing the patch of the Legion, I think his patch is just damaged.
@@raptorcell6633 I think it is blurred which doesn’t help identification
I'm not sure how the ABC misstepped so bad on this one. There is no excuse. Broadly speaking I am very happy to have an independent, gov funded, media channel that isnt owned by Murdoch or any other oligarch.
LMFAO Independent and Government Funded are not compatible mate
@@heathclark318 you are welcome to your opinion. Independent and billionaire owned don't go together either in my opinion.
The guy in charge of the ABC worked for News Limited papers, Foxtel, and started Sky News in Australia.
The takeover is complete. Just look up Kim Williams.
@@robd8577Bear in Mind that the new CE of the ABC is a Murdoch man 😢
They aren't directly owned by murdoch but they tow the murdoch line nonetheless, the only difference is we are forced to pay for the ABC via our taxes.
Considering the ABC has struggled to call a genocide a genocide this is not surprising
Who is in charge of ABC. This is a disgrace.
Is it really a genocide if more troops are dying than civilians?.
@@aaroncruz9181genocide isnt merely about bodycount, its about displacement and removal of a people. the fact that the eastern portions of ukraine, poland and hungary speaks russian should tell you of russia's history of replacement.
@@andrewrossythe liberal party
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516They spoke Russian before the tri-color was flying.
broke: wearing press on body armor will make you a prime target of spetsnaz.
woke: wearing russian body armor will keep you safe as you blend in with the russian army.
he was interviewing the effing Spetznaz. He should be safe from russian warcrimes this time.
in late 1980's Soviet officials allowed american documentary film group to tag along soviet troops fighting in Afghanistan, the documentary that was made was called "Afghan The Soviet Experience". I think it's still avaible in YT somewhere. And it was less of a propaganda piece than this "documentary".
Very unfortunate meanwhile in America, we have people spreading this information online. It’s much different.
What a disgrace to see the other side, what do you expected? that the enemy shares the same narrative and propaganda of your side?
I am surprised that the Australian ABC put this shit on air. I used to watch some of their documentaries on youtube because they were good. Now I have to stop subscribing to them. And I have even fewer places to watch documentaries.
Good on you mate. I’m also an Aussie and its diabolical that our government allowed this shit to air.
Good old free countries, only air what the politicians pre approve or ts's treason.
Stuff like this pisses me off so much, the Russo-Ukrainian War is more cut and dry than most. If Russia leaves, the war ends. What does need an actual nuanced review, particularly by someone with a backbone, is the Israeli-Hamas war. Far more complicated, and most people do tend to ignore its complexities in favour of blindly supporting Gaza. By that I mean they not only protest in favour of providing much-needed aid to civilian victims who have no Hamas affiliations but support the Hamas regime itself. Netenyahu shares much with Putin, and is a reprehensible fuckpuppet, but he only has single digit support among all Israeli voters, which includes two million Palestinian citizens of Israel. Unlike Ukraine, Hamas actually initiated hostilities and engaged in real tangible genocide that was as blatantly evil as the massacre at Bucha and elsewhere. Unlike Ukraine, Hamas has no interest in lasting peace or even an end to hostilities, and the primary reason why civilian casualties are so high is due to Hamas bases being purposefully placed under Hospitals, Schools and public service buildings to deter reprisals. If the IDF leaves Gaza with Hamas still in charge, the attacks will simply continue and more Israeli and Palestinian civilians will die needlessly. If the IDF wipes out Hamas, yet another terror organization will emerge from the power vacuum like its predecessor, the PLO. No easy options, and very much in need of a thorough analysis.
Agree with most of your points. However: i no longer trust the IDF claims on bunkers below hospitals. If only because the one time they promised to show overwhelming proof of a command centre running most of Gaza, all they found after 3 days was a small closet with 3 pc’s, a roster list for nurse shifts and 2 AK-47’s that may or may not have been planted by themself.
Regardless: if Hamas places military targets under human shield, then if I remember correctly the IDF still has a duty to weigh the causalities against military value. And even the Americans are now publicly saying they are not making that measurement properly.
When even the USA thinks your Air Force is doing too much collateral damage, your doing something wrong.
If only because the civilian impact of the IDF will likely strengthen Hamas, as part of terrorism 101: the more civilians you hurt the more rebellion soldiers you create for the opposing side.
And Hamas absolutely does not deserve any extra recruitment
But see, Hamas = Muslim = too dumb to know better.
Nothing is cut and dry, if you think it is, then someone is lying to you.
@@luigimrlgaming9484 Read what was written: 'MORE' cut and dry, not black and white but it is less complicated than most conflicts within the last century. Russia does not have a justifiable reason to invade Ukraine, and they need to kindly bugger right off back across the border. They signed as guaranteurs of Ukrainian territorial integrity alongside the UK. They stole Crimea and started a proxy war, then invaded outright. That is pretty damned outrageous.
People are so caught up with “you have to have empathy. You have to walk a mile in their shoes before you can judge them” nowadays that they refuse to believe that there are truly right and wrong sides in some wars, such as WW2. I spent an entire day telling people that the Wehrmacht were actual Nazis and shouldn’t be respected for their “courage” and “sacrifice” as many of these people were saying. These people argued however that US and British troops committed some war crimes too, so there was no right or wrong side.😑 I wanted to wall pizza myself just trying to comprehend how a functional human could come to the conclusion that a few allied troops executing POW’s equates to the literal Holocaust, therefore there was no good or bad side. But this is the same logic that leads to people excusing Russian war crimes today, saying “well Ukraine’s done some bad stuff too, there really is no good or bad side, both sides are just victims of their politics”. Despite it being very clear to any normal person that Russia invading their neighbor who posed no threat to them makes them the bad ones, along with the many atrocities they’ve committed like in Bucha. It’s disgusting. Not to mention the amount of castrations, rapes, and beheadings I’ve seen them do as well all over the lines. Reddit’s a scary place.
Ironic that you site anti-Wehrmacht conversations while your defending Ukraine, thouse fuckers are trying to turn some it's worst offenders into national heroes.
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777How does that justify the invasion of Ukraine
What other atrocities? I’m genuinely curious.
@@luigimrlgaming9484 for who are you specifically asking about?
@@devendoffing7004 All of them
Keep bringing this to the public. Dont give up dont ever stop until you made a difference. Make noise. A very loud noise until everyone hears and you made a difference. A positive difference in the world.
-(-x) = +x
He cucks for Nazis and genocide. He makes a WORSE world.
I'm too American. I saw the title and wondered what Disney's news channel did now. Turns out it's the other ABC News.
Please note that in the USA, UK, etc., trials of war criminals, i.e. monsters that appear in every army, are held quite often. What's more, these trials can catch up with the perpetrator years later. This doesn't happen in Russia. Trials of those responsible for the murders are never held. There, being a war criminal not only goes unpunished, but is even encouraged. In total, for about 80 years after the war, the Russians not only did not distance themselves from the criminal system as the Germans did, not only do the monuments of Stalin and Kalinin (responsible for Katyn) still stand, but they also proudly use the equivalent of the Nazi flag, i.e. the hammer and sickle red rag. The symbol of tens of millions of victims. There is no reflection in Russia about the crimes they committed. There is only pride.
At the risk of sounding hyperbolic but not wear press on body armor or hemlet just make you a combatant or legitimate target in a war zone?
It mean that if you are killed it isn’t the fault of the soldier that killed you, because he might have thought you were a enemy soldiers
It doesn't make you an enemy combatant, but the lack of identifying "PRESS" markings also means you are not afforded the protections outlined in international laws of war.
@@Zoms101 this war has little to no protections anyway I guess. Both sides throw journalists in jail or worse
Well in a fire fight if you see a bright blue vest you might stop and think. If you see Russian VDV camo you squeeze the trigger.
Yes, essentially. It's your argument to win that without clearly identifying Press insignia and them being present on the front line in the same uniform or equipment as the opposition you were engaging a legitimate target to your knowledge.
"What would make Animarchy post a 40 minute rant? ...Oh ya, that would do it."
ABC should apologize for being duped into being a Kremlin propagandist and retract that 'documentary'.
We have a moral imperative to assume that every country that lacks anything even approaching freedom of speech is lying, at all times, and about everything. Only countries that allow open criticism can operate in good faith. Every interview with people from autocrat countries should start with the interviewer saying outright, "this interview is being done with the assumption everything you say is some form of lie." Every time someone from an autocratic power speaks to the outside world, it needs to be done with the understanding that their country has cost them something others consider a fundamental right.
So we are to assume that Australia is lying? you know cause we have no guarantee to freedom of speech in our constitution, in fact we have several laws in place that can actual impede on freedom of speech.
So no country on Earth? Got it, right, sure do like peoples opinions being decided for them.
This is disgusting. You are totally right. I am from ruzzia and I hate putler and this war!
Hey, love your videos, subscribed for probably a year thanks to LazerPig!
I am a refugee from Donbas, I lived there all my life and was able to evacuate to the free territory of Ukraine only six months ago. Looking at what such "journalists" tell about Donbas and how they take the opinion of terrorists from the so-called "LPR" and "DPR" as "the opinion of the population of the region" is terrible. Since 2014, there has been resistance in Donbas, which has not gone anywhere. At the same time, in 2018-2020, local Russian authorities destroyed all books, textbooks and other literature in educational institutions and libraries that were written in the Ukrainian language. People who were Ukrainian patriots and even just spoke Ukrainian were sent to torture chambers in basements.
I hope that such liars as this "film maker" will get their due. Слава Україні and be safe!
UPD: In the video, you call the city of Dnipro "Dnipropetrovsk." This is an old Russian imperial name, and the city has been renamed Dnipro for many years by now.
Bruh.you played yourself.
Lies. Russia never destroyed Ukrainian moba books, Ukraine destroyed Russian yazyk books. LNR and DPR never outlawed Ukrainian, Ukraine outlawed Russian. FFS, LNR, DPR, Zaporozha even had UKRAINIAN LANGUAGE BALLOTS in the referendum and the presidential election, and all 4 + Crimea allow Ukrainian language schools and programming. You're such a sloppy liar. You definitely aren't from Donbas; nobody there would want to go to fucking UKRAINE of all places after it shelled them for 10 YEARS, especially not after May 8, 2022, when all people in "occupied" territories who ate foo,d used money, did work, lived in a house, talked to a soldier, etc, were branded traitors by Kiev with prison sentences of 15+ years.
Animarcky you are absolutely correct and not looking to deep into the title. Most people will never watch this documentary but if they see anything it will be the title that will take a large amount of the memory space. It taints the well from the get go.
They sound willing because they have hope, the Iraqis sounded the same way until the Missouri showed up. Imagine having a foe that can devastate you, and you can shoot back, but nothing you brought to the invasion can even scratch it. That is hopelessness they did the wise thing and surrendered to a drone from the ship.
That was the Wisconsin
our government somehow shows itself to be an ever growing joke.
bro does NOT want to hear anything that threatens his worldview
@@breadboy24 if your worldview is “genocide is good actually”.
No. I don’t.
"You commit war crimes?"
"Na fam. Shits cap."
"Well there you have it."
That sergeant now has to evade shots from the back too
Not to put a whole nation down or anything for the choices of a few, but honestly what do you expect from a parliament that,
1. objectify women and when said women speak about it they are either paid off or gagged from speaking about it.
2. Embezzled 5 million dollars for a goddamn shooting range and a whole private jet.
3. The labour party filibustering the whole shebang with people with red shirts.
If the aussies had the same outrage as the la riots and the fight like the lads out in the Pacific theater, companies like this would think twice.
as an aussie this is fucking putrid to let happen
You have every right to be angry.
Turns out the larger and deeper the stupor is, the harder it is to wake up.
Regarding soviet nostalgia from the older demographic: In post-soviet countries, there is a joke - "Q: What was good in the Soviet Union? A: Erection"
took me a week to realize what the joke was thx
Went to school with Russians, Ukrainians and kids from all over the world. Three have being killed in bombings by Russia, two have been killed in action. (two Ukrainians, 1 brit and two germans). My old Russian classmates have either fled the country or were conscripted. You will never convince me this is meant to be a good thing.
I haven't and refuse to watch it.. because bad ratings are the best way to deal with crap like that
I'm sure the BBC had journos embedded with the SS in 1943, didn't they? No?
Or the NY Times with Hirohito's IJN? No?
Hmm...curious...
what's wrong with showing the other side?
I have a question for you, would you give the microphone to German soldiers fight in ww2, if so why? Course it’s kinda the same, both want to expand there country’s and put ethnic people of there country and move the people living there out. There is a word for that in German called lerbinrom if I’m saying it correctly which means livings space.
Showing the other side is not what's happening though.
@@midgitpower1187would be interesting to see what they think and how they view it from their point of view, as well as seeing it from a historical standpoint. they're still human, their point of view shouldn't be invalidated because of what side they're on.
@@lands1459 true but if you watch the video he states that it’s not neutral and he’s was a supporter of the kremlin. It also shows a clear picture what the Russians want you to hear. Examples is that he was forced to have people fallow him and he didn’t ask why pressing questions like how this war is effectiving them? How is it protecting Russia? How does the war affect your family when half of them are from Ukraine? Stuff like that not like asking grandmas on what should happen to Donbas or just asking about the weather or safety💀 but you can make a claim that they were forced to
@@midgitpower1187We’re not at war, Ukraine is.
I wonder how many of these people interviewed are still alive at this point. Probably the handlers.
Tbh, this shit is making me have conspiracy level ideas
There’s a difference between Ed Murrow going over to German occupied France in 1944 and modern western journalists going to occupied Ukraine to interview Russians. The United States government in 1944 was at war with Germany. As of yet Australia isn’t in a state of war with the Russian Federation. So it’s not an equivalent situation.
In other words Murrow being an American journalist going over to interview the SS, who at the time the United States was at war with their government isn’t an equivalent situation. Australia isn’t in a state of war with Russia.
The whole point is that it's a western journalist. Australia is a part of democratic world
Its one thing to allow different opinions in a country. And it is another thing to have state tv to platform certain points of view and even promoting them. It would look very strange if state TV in my country started to make tv documentaries where Kluk-klux-klan and neo-confederates could tell the story about the American civil war and slavery from a Confederate persepective. Or interviewing neo-nazis and former concentration camp guards and Einsatzgruppen soldiers about their perspective on the holocaust.
Russia is our geo-strategic enemy. Just like it was during the cold war. The nuclear threats and hostile rethoric makes this clear.
Russia have also themselves said that they are at war with the west. And that makes it clear that we are at war with russia, regardless if you wanna be at war with russia or not.
If a thug on the street goes up to you in the middle of the night and wants to fight with you, then there will be a conflict regardless if you want to fight or not.
31:10 "The Communist Party are actually right-wing traditional conservatives" - YES! THANK YOU! It's not just Russia or Belarus, a lot of the Eastern Block is like this. "Traditional values", christian (sometimes), isolationist or Russia-leaning and USSR nostalgic. This is a looot of the so called ""left"" here (aka not left at all). And the liberals are the ones scooping the youth vote, due to being fervently anti-communist. It's whack trying to explain this to westerners, it's so backwards here, I hate it.
Whatever about ABC, Sky News Australia is the worst trash I've ever seen.
Appalling. I can’t believe the ABC did this. Normally I don’t buy in to the ABC bashing, but in this case it’s warranted.
It’s the same here in Britain, hating the bbc spending your taxes on useless shite.
ABC is the same company that airs Bluey.
As a form of protest, I say we make memes about Bluey joining Wagner PMC.
Won't someone think about how WW2 affected the Nazis?
Its not the Russian war its Fijis war of agression against Mars
Thank you for taking the time. I was so shocked that the abc Australia broadcasted this.
Canadians: CBC is awful!
Aussies: Hold My Fosters!
Do I like it? No. But I have a very classical old liberal way of looking at it. Let them do it. I'd much rather have someone be open about their views and beliefs than hiding it and disguising it behind a veil of some sort. So, I say let them show it. But honestly? How cares. I'm over here in the US, Broke af, sick, tired and worn out. Their war, not mine. Good Day.
I had no idea about this. Pretty mind blowing for a reporter to make such a statement. Terrible times we live in, not even those who your supposed to listen to have an opinion non diluted. And as youd imagine this man most likely got a few pennies for that tweet.
Quality journalism is when you ask softball questions, claim you couldnt press them because you feared for your safety, and then conveniently fucking forgot to mention that as voiceover context. Cos y'know, the audience might maybe construe that as suggesting that maybe the subject isnt a good guy
hey where did you get the sources for the number of loses on both sides from? I really would like to know
the russian side stuff was obiusly from twitter, since that website has become a diluted mess of fake people pretending to be westerners to convince you guys to side with the g wording dictatorship
19:40
"Im going to have to correct you...
And arrest you...
And ship you off to the gulag..."
21 seconds into this video and I have already facepalmed.
I think it's actually a good thing that they created this documentary, but only because it gives an opportunity for the Russian propaganda narrative to be exposed and torn to shreds.
If it was aired and then critically reviewed in something like a panel format and the talking points disproved (eg the Bucha evidence) than I’d agree. But apparently that did not happen?
On all fronts of this war, and that I mean all fronts, the home front, the frontlines, the international front ect Russia is loosing.
Yep, this is why they've started so hard into foreign propaganda.
@@090giver090you can tell exactly when that started to happen.
I remember around 2022 with Kherson. Russia completely cut the funding for the propaganda because you can notice a server decrease.
after Bakhmut fell, then they coincidently started it up again.
Then the Wagner thing happened then it fell quiet.
Now that Adivca fell after like 10 years of frontline combat. They are back again
@@mitchconner403 I personally think that it all started with the fail of "3 days to Kiev: plan - there were a bunch of "they have a bunch of fresh elites to enter the battle soon" and "that was not a retreat! that was an ultra-clever-16d-chess-strategic-feint move!" fuzz in the net.
During Izyun and Kherson debackles, they switched to "The west is doomed without Russian energy" campaign - there were a fuckton of "talking heads" hyping hyperinflation and joblessness that would befell the West if they ramp up the war support for Ukraine. Then they had a bit of time when they could hype purely military topics. Then Prigo went rogue and they had to restructure their influence networks he had.
And now with the lack of any meaningfull achievemets on the frontline, collapsing economy, looming fuel crisis due to Ukrainians decided to play a "refinery bingo", fledgeling war support at home, and elections year in USA they really ramp up the propaganda. I call this campaign "Think of the russian children!"
LOOOOOOOOOOOK COPE ON NAZI BOT!
I watched it when it aired and didn't really care much, i knew it wouldn't have any truth, but after watching this, oh boy this shit stings.
We need this documentary on ABC!
Wearing Russian equipment with no PRESS insignia. Probably because the russians would shoot him on sight, so it's a precautionary measure to not cause "accidental" friendly fire XD
2:37 *Dnipro
"Dnepropetrovsk" is soviet name of this city, long canceled
I’ve seen some of this guys work before; back during the US invasion of Afghanistan. I liked his freewheeling style at the time and didn’t really question the ethical issues of his embedding with terrorist groups. He always sold it is a kinda ‘whoops and there I am with the Taliban’ kinda way.
Seeing this you realise how irresponsible and one-sided this guy is. Wearing full camo with a Russian patch won’t just get you killed by Ukraine , it marks you out as a sympathiser who doesn’t take the real victims of this war seriously.
Talking to these fascists about the thoughts on geopolitical subjects they have zero input in influencing shows a ‘journalist’ who thinks these subjects aren’t actually serious issues just arguments between normal people to be understood.
It’s completely unserious and I don’t know how it got passed normal programming on a serious television channel.
There is nothing wrong with an honest exploration of the subject, honest being the operative word.
Indeed
Hell, some of the questions Animarchy proposed would have been great.
Or, say. You have that 19 year old proffesional soldier who just lost his friends. Ask him about his friends, what their dreams were. About if he’s missing his family. And then Ask: if those are the costs you pay, do you think it’s wort it? Why?
Do you think the guys on the other side pay the same price? Why do you think the Ukrainians see the price as worth it?
Humanizing a person who is doing bad things is really interesting. Because very few people consider themself to be evil. So when you find why they do evil things, you can learn to hopefully avoid making their mistake: doing evil things without realizing or stopping after the realization
Never would I think of wishing ill on such a acclaimed presenter as Mr. Langann, but coincidentally and for no apparent reason, that on the day that Sean went to the front, I wish the Ukrainian artillery had bee more accurate at targeting his camera equipment...
God, the fact that the very specific Marxist-Leninist (and even more specific Stalinist and Maoist) version(s) of communism has become synonymous with the much broader communist and socialist schools of thought frustrates me to no end.
If you want an example of a form of communism that was VERY different from Marxist-Leninism, look up Nestor Makhno.
The reason Sean tweeted that is because it is 100% illegal for a British citizen to serve in combat in another Military force. Many foreign fighters who fought against ISIS with the Kurds were similarly Imprisoned as is the law in the UK
Nothing you said is true. Foreign fighting is not illegal as long as you do not join a proscribed terrorist group or an entity fighting against the state or the state's recognised allies.
The British foreign fighters in Syria have been accused of terrorist offences.
Although many cases against Brits fighting for the YPG (Syrian Kurdistan) have collapsed from what I've heard since they were fighting for a Western backed militia against ISIS.
Those laws doesn't apply to British citizens fighting in the armed forces of a recognised nation state however who are assumed to have combatant's privilege. Perhaps especially an allied nation state.
I think there is another older law that may apply to enlisting in a war where the British Crown is neutral - not the case in Ukraine - but I don't think it's actually been used for decades or longer.
I won't at all defend the Shamima Begum precedent however that effectively gives the British Home Secretary the arbitrary power to strip the British citizenship from any UK born Brit with a theoretical right to another citizenship - so British Asians and Jews - if he merely considers it conducive to the public good.
@@alexwright4930 The Home Secretary is a she. The ability to remove citizenship is dangerous.
Journeyman Pictures has a UA-cam channel and I've always thought their stuff was similar to what Vice News does
In a way, I fell pity for the Russian Soldiers. Kind of how I pity Gollum in LotR.
I feel like we should tell the Russian side, and then explain why its false and/or wrong.
I really hate the 'both sides' argument, especially in regard to this war. The entire war in Ukraine, starting with the invasion and annexation of Crimea back in back in 2014 was then and continues to be naked aggression by Russia against Ukraine. There are no differences between this and the invasion of Kuwait by Iraq in 1990.
Ukraine didn't want this war, neither did the rest of Europe save maybe Belarus. For anybody to claim otherwise is to be either a puppet of the Kremlin at best, or a useful idiot at worst. We all knew Tucker is a useful idiot but at least he had to do it on his own (mostly). I didn't realize there were enough of them at the Australian Broadcasting Corp to let this go to air is sadly disappointing. That said, Fox News is still a thing in the USA... so I have little to stand on, I guess.
There were a number of Hussein interwievs done by US/European journalists between invasion of Kuwait and the start of "Desert Storm".
@@090giver090 The difference is that Tucker went to interview Putin for ideological reasons (and came back disappointed).
In both cases America did.
It’s not that hard to understand why people become pro-Russian, especially since people like you call anyone who even slightly criticizes Ukraine as “spreading Russian Propaganda”. People have been lied to far too many times to consider trusting anything from the mainstream media, and so they question everything and become contrarians. When you get such an emotional response from simple questions, you look like the Fascist.
I’ve been lied to so many more times by the West than ai have by the East. I think it’s getting hard for them to find something to lie about because we’ve already done most of it.
Ukraine both wanted and started the war.
2014 saw it taken over by Nazis who swore genocide on all Russians in the world. The Russians of Ukraine started GTFOing, so Ukraine sent in the army to stop them. First shots were by Ukraine on May 14, 2014, n krasnoarmeisk, where unarmed civilians were massacred outside a voting poll by Kiev forces. Kiev sent ore troops and declared all of Donbass's people "terrorists" with karte blanche for the army to kill them. The people of Donbas refused and fought back. Ukraine got pwnd n 2015, got first Minsk Accords, refused to honor them, kept shelling DOnbss and attacking. Refused Russian offer of joint peacekeepers n 2016. Refused Russian UN peacekeeper offer in 2018. Didn't even try to honor the 2019 Minsk 2 Accords. Refused to end genocide in Donbas. Russia intervenes in Feb 2022, proposes Istanbul Acords. Ukraine would even get Donbass back,t hey just have to stop committing genocide there. Ukraine refuses. 5 times Ukraine refuses peace, started the killing, won't stop, yet says Russia is aggressive. Like the violence alcoholic who claims everyone disrespects them.
Had to limit my intake of the information about war at a point because the amount of horrific stuff i have witnessed and the amount of people actively advocating for it actually started affecting my mental health.
The term is not disgrace but thundering disgrace