Norfolk Southern's Dayton District, Watkins Yard + 2 CSX Columbus Locals
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- This is a video from a trip along the NS Dayton District between Cincinnati and Columbus.
The first catch is at the Great Miami River in Dayton.
Then we catch NS 178 again in Springfield and see some tri-light signals.
We see 178 once more in London and then catch two CSX locals in Columbus at LM Cabin.
We finish the trip with a southbound NS heading to Portsmouth and then have a look around Watkins Yard.
I hope you enjoy.
Feel free to comment and let me know what you think.
2:23 I’ve never heard an electronic diesel horn before. That futuristic sound is coming from a device a railroad crossing features. Now that’s what I call a space horn!
5:14 That rail-trail on the right I was surprised to see in such a small town. Looking at Google maps it goes towards Columbus. The railroad line becomes active a ways further on and it becomes a rail-with-trail with a different trail name.
Here is a Google Map overlay with the Pennsylvania Railroad's mostly abandon Columbus - Indianapolis via Bradford OH line with PRR millages. I checked the milages and they should be at least within 100-feet of the the actual mile makers. For some unknown reason the PRR lost about 950-feet of route millage numbering around Knightstown IN MP-156. That is included in these millages which were taken from PRR Track Charts. The MP-181 was taken from a CSX valuation map. The CSX valuation map shows the new location of mile maker 181 being about 950-feet before where the actual survey station would place it. I try to have the centerline within 10-ft of actual railroad alignment centerline. Most of the time it is much closer than that. In places where there appears a larger discrepancy there is likely something making it look that way, but it should be very close to the actual centerline. The curves were taken from the track charts when there is was no indication of the RR alignment through plowed over fields. The PRR line sub ballast I was working around April 2023 at MP-173 was all rounded over with grindings and dust. It wouldn't have held a train up very well. I've never seen sub ballast so worn out. Not an edge left on any of the rock.
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I really like the way you blend your ground shots and drone footage really helps tell the story nice work sir
I think the tri-light signals are NYC G-Series if I'm not mistaken. I grew up in Springfield in the 80s and 90s and the Dayton District was a pretty busy line during the Conrail years. Then when they shut down Buckeye yard, that eliminated a decent amount of traffic. London was a pretty big junction between the PRR and NYC back in the day.
I believe you're correct. I've had a few others mention the G-Series signals.
I wish the Dayton District had some traffic on it.
I really enjoy following the line from Cincinnati.
I would go to Springfield often while working in Dayton, and was always a happy camper when I caught a train going through Springfield.
@@nkyrailfan I live next to the Dayton District just outside of West Jefferson and there's times where there's maybe a couple of trains an hour going by. And sometimes 5 - 6 hours goes by and nothing.
NS does seem to like to fire trains off one after another as it sends them on their way.
Another superb upload - it's always a great day when I see a notification. Love the shots in Dayton and London. Being from Dayton it's always nice to see railfanning in the Miami Valley. Have you ever got your drone up around Middletown? Reed Yard and the AK Steel ops seem interesting. The CSX Middletown Sub doesn't get much coverage either. Appreciate all your work!
Thank you so much.
I really enjoy filming in Dayton.
One of these days I plan on focusing on the entire elevated section through town and show where the lines split.
I actually stopped off at AK Steel and got a couple shots just to look around at the facility.
I can't get over how massive it is.
I'd like to get a train loading or unloading one of these days.
@@nkyrailfan A full length video of Dayton would be amazing. Lots of great history and still some interesting local moves if you are lucky to catch them. Looking forward to your next adventure!
at the 9:50 mark, that’s a very interesting triple diamond configuration, but it must be quite noisy on the ground there! Your drone footage always adds another element to the videos and it really elevates the quality and watchability! thanks
Thank you so much.
I felt my drone work was a little rough this video but even then I do think it adds so much to the videos.
It really is quite the routing they have.
And you're right, a train going over the diamonds is extremely loud.
It must be a real PITA to design and manufacture those diamonds because both crossing tracks are on curves!
This is highly informative and awesome to watch !
Thanks so much Neil!
I'm really glad you enjoyed it.
Have a great day!
Great drone shots of the columbus area. Very informative. Cool ground view of csx coming through the scioto bridge! 👍👍 overall!!
Thank you very much.
I really do appreciate it.
Wow. Neat catch on that UP SD70M, looks like all the rest.. but it was one of 25 early SD70Ms bought by SP. 5 years before the UP bought over a 1000
I believe that the flashing X at the crossings in Springfield are for the train crew if the X is flashing they don't use their horn signaling that the crossing horn and warning system are working properly
Thank you for the info Scott. That makes sense, especially given how the X's are positioned.
And one other thing. I got in the cab of CSX 8137 when it was on the Safety Train at North Bergen, NJ, in October 2018.
Very cool Curtis!
Another great drone video! Keep up the good work! We enjoyed watching it
Wow! Another video of where I used to run trains in the late 1960s & early 1970s. Occasionally I would get a piggyback train at Riverside Yard in SW Cincinnati. SV8 or TV8 something like that. Usually several surplus E units. We'd take that train to Columbus Union depot where we'd swap crews. At the elevated Dayton Union Terminal we'd stop with the rear end just east of the Miami River bridge and a goat would pluck off a car or 2 and add one or 2. The umbrella 'sheds' were still there and the piggybacks would not fit under them so we could only use the far south track. We ran down the middle of the street at Springfield. I see they have done away with that. London was a diamond crossing with the PRR when I hired out and the intermodal ran NYC all the way to the Columbus station. By the time I left for the west they had built the big new Buckeye Yard and taken up some of the NYC east of London. Between Dayton & Cold Springs tower SE of Springfield the NYC & Erie-Lackawanna each had a single track that we each used as Double Track. If we were going to Bellefontaine (which was most of the freight trains out of Sharonville) we would run on the Erie between Cold Springs tower and Glenn Echo tower north of Springfield to by-pass the middle of the street running in Springfield. Thanks for the memories of 55 years ago :-)
I must say I'm quite jealous you were able to work in all these areas. Whenever I head to areas like these, I always wish I could see what they looked like in their prime. I am really glad you're enjoying the videos.
@@nkyrailfan Yeh well I feel the same. I wish I could've seen all of this in the late steam era. We lived in Miamisburg. When I was 5 years old in the early 1950s there was an NYC H-10 Mike parked on the Library Park siding and dad took me over and asked if we could come up into the cab. Sure. The fireman opened the firebox doors exposing the white hot fire. The radiation from it was darned intense for a 5 year old at eye level. He closed the firebox doors and after a couple of minutes the safety pops blew off. LOUD! Scared the heck out of me and all I wanted was off of that monster. Sadly steam was gone within a year or so. The B&O steam across the river lasted another year or so. My bicycle got quite a work out. Who knew then that 50 years later I'd be running a 4-8-4 at nearly 70 mph in Montana. Its in the blood. My granddad worked for the Cincinnati & Lake Erie interurban. In summers when my dad was a teen he used to ride along on the all night C&LE freights helping to load & unload express just for fun. I worked my way thru 4 years of Miami Univ (Oxford) on the Penn Central midnite yard goat that switched the Middletown downtown paper mills. Have a few stills. Graduated but couldn't give up railroading, and never regretted it :-)
Love the train videos lovebridge train horn sound good to
I just found your video very cool to see rail videos right in my home town and surrounding areas nice job
The reason you didn't get 178 at LM Cabin was because it goes for a crew change at Hauge Ave, west of LM Cabin. The first CSX local was H709, the second H792, and the NS intermodal was 218. The Ohio Central train was the NKWA (Newark to Watkins Turn); it was packing away the cars for Watkins, running around, and taking another cut back to Newark. You should try an Ohio Central Trip, the Newark area is pretty busy. Lastly, I forget the symbol, but the CSX local trying to get into Watkins was a Y symbol. I believe Y135 does the interchange. Awesome Video!
Thanks for all the info!
I really do appreciate it.
Once it warms up, I'll definitely have to check out the Ohio Central.
I lived 4 years in dayton. I used to ride mi bike along the bike trail. Used to stop just to watch that monster. Thanks to drive me back.
Great video, very nice shots. Thanks for sharing. Dave
Always happy to hear you enjoyed it Dave.
I just realized your day job. No wonder these videos are so good.
Thanks Michael, I do appreciate it.
Yay! New Video! Wooo! I loved it!
The WB was NS 178s counterpart NS 179 saw both of them that day
I figured it was.
Any idea what time it typically leaves Columbus?
The flashing x is to let us know if we have to blow the train horn, if it’s flashing then no train horn, if it is not flashing then we blow the train horn.
Thank you very much.
I figured it was something like that.
I just couldn't figure it out off the few times I saw a train come through.
Great drone footage of the train curving around the silos
Thanks for taking me along!
Glad to hear you enjoyed it John.
Have a great day!
That NS train had a rare "white face" Dash 9 and an ex-SP SD70M!
Flashing X's remind locomotive engineers "no horn"
Thank you very much Tony.
That makes sense and explains why they flash when nothing is in the crossing.
I read about those flashing "X's". There are some visible on VR's. I BELIVE that they indicate to approaching trains that the horn system is working and they do not have to blow the horn on the engine.
Thank you very much Rob.
That makes sense and certainly explains why they would flash when nothing is in the crossing.
@@nkyrailfan They turn off when a train is within the crossing. So if the line was double-tracked, a train going the opposite direction would still have to horn if a meet happened.
Springfield is home, enjoy the DT&I trains as well
What drone do you use and about how much run time does it give you. Also do you use the drone's camera or an add on?
Hey Rupert!
I use a DJI Mavic 2 Pro.
It will give me around 18-20 minutes of flying time.
I use the drones camera.
Love your drone stuff
Intermodals have the highest priority on practically every railroad due to profit and small time windows, therefore most likely whats happened is 178 had to stop for the intermodal train to pass through it. I don't know how close in the number of blocks a train has to get before they decide to park a train in a siding but considering there was a few trains through there its possible 178 was waiting on other trains to pass, especially if they aren't priority.
Thank you for the info.
Like 75. Wonderful video. Iam suscribe in your channel. Getting from argentina
Thank you so much. I really do appreciate it.
Great work! I’ve always wanted to try LM Cabin one of these days
It's actually a pretty wide open spot.
I don't know how much action you'll see other than locals though.
Still, it is pretty cool to see a train go over the diamonds.
this was my division
Type G signals. That’s what you’re looking for.
Thank you as always for helping me out with information.
I do appreciate it.
Great job well done
That's a really odd train horn system going on there I've never seen something like that before.
Agree 💯
The system is very unique and I haven't seen it in use anywhere else.
I wonder what the neighbors think of it versus a real train horn.
We should meet up again
It has been a while.
I don't think I've been to Glendale since that day.
I hope everything is going great for you and everyone else that was railfanning with you that day.
R.I.P Buckeye Yard
I thought about stopping by but ran out of time.
From what I could see driving by, it looked like a lot of the track has been pulled out.
@@nkyrailfan Yup, most of it is gone except for one track on the very end which I'm not even sure if it gets used anymore. I used to walk to the buckeye yard all the time to paint trains when i was younger. It's sad to see that it's abandoned now.
Yeah, I know graffiti is illegal + there was trespassing involved, but there's a whole culture to painting trains that most regular citizens will never appreciate. All artists know to never paint over the car numbers and other labels. Kind of a cool community to look into if interested.
Those drone views put you above (get it?) other UA-camrs.
Thanks as always Rupert. I hope you're doing well.