NHL Worst Plays Of The Week: How Was Tom Wilson NOT SUSPENDED?! | Steve's Dang-Its
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- Steve Dangle shares his picks for misplays of the week around the NHL, then takes a deep dive into the Tom Wilson saga from the Capitals game against the Rangers.
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The biggest dang-it is that Wilson was fined the same amount as Lundqvist was for squirting water at Crosby
Suspend him for year plus playoffs teach him a lesson
and the same amount the nfl fines people for wearing their socks too low
The NFL equivalent of wearing your socks too low. Wow.
Lol yeah I saw that on Tim and Friends
Or for Mackinnon throwing a helmet
*Let's talk about Tom Wilson...*
Me: *Looks at thr 14inutes left*
Right? I saw the stretch and 'whoa boy, here we go'.
I'd love to see the raw footage lol
14inutes. Faded much?
@@joshualloyd8838 thr 14inutes lmfao
Today we learned that Bettman cares more about Parros feelings more than the safety of any player on the ice.
Idk why the DoPS protects Tom Wilson as much as they do. They consistently give him light punishments for injuring multiple players. 7 games while Carlo misses 3 months for what Tom did. Ended lubomir visnovski’s career with a charge to the head with only a 2 min minor called. If the nhl doesn’t suspend him indefinitely I would assume a player like reaves or another enforcer will make sure he won’t play again. He has a dirty hit coming his way and I hope it ends his career
@@AMan_629 he was suspended 40 games once. I dont think that is protecting him
@@jackmakackov7077 yeah once and now he's back to going for dirty plays and injuring star players but that's fine cause he got fined 5k which is a lot for me. but to him thats like half a peanut get real man he's never gonna change and the only way to stop him from injuring more players is to punish him when he does it
@@jackmakackov7077 ? I think he has only been suspended for 20 games which he appealed down to 14. Source: nhl.nbcsports.com/2021/05/04/tom-wilson-nhl-discipline-history-fines-suspensions-other-hits/
Lmao Panarin jumped on his back, then got the body slammed without hitting his head. He’s out with a lower body injury not a concussion. The rangers are just mad they got eliminated from the playoffs by half a caps roster.
Spot on. And in this upside down world Rangers management gets fired and Parros is still employed. What???
Well, it's been made abundantly clear that George Parros' fragile little ego is more important to Bettman than player safety.
What's worse than calling out the NHL administration for extremely poor decisions?
Being absolutely correct about how extremely poor those decisions were. Betteman puts the image of the NHL's administration way above all else. Including player safety.
And now the rangers president and gm are fired. Is this related to this statement or just being eliminated from playoffs?
This is proof that the NHL is run by an old boy's club that doesn't want to see the sport evolve and longs for the days of Bob Probert. No wonder this league and sport is pretty much irrelevant outside its bubble...
@@kevin8274 I think it's actually the opposite. I think ownership was absolutely livid and they put together the release. I think Gorton & Davidson distanced themselves from the statement. Ownership is still pissed and holds them to account for it all happening. Basically if you don't think this is unacceptable, why is there nobody to defend the team? Something like that I am thinking.
But Shane Gostisbere gets 2 games for cross checking Mark Friedman. I’m not saying he shouldn’t have been suspended by the fact that Wilson got nothing for doing something that’s obviously worse is absolutely asinine.
Gary Bettman is a stooge, he is usually the worst of the major sports commissioners, and his inability/unwillingness to actually make the league better is a stain on the league
I give props to all the Rangers on the ice for not using Wilson to test the durability of their sticks during the incident.
LOL
But they looked like wusbags holding their sticks. DROP THE STICK!!!!
Seriously, two handers across the face. Let’s see how tough he is when he loses his eyesight
I give props to Wilson for being what he is in an overly soft league. The game is not for you.
@@Morkz Yes plz
Parros: Tom Wilson gets a $5,000 fine and no suspension.
Also Parros: Waaaah! Mr. Bettman, the Rangers hurt my feelings!
Lmfao
I think the worst part is after Panarin lost his helmet ,Wilson clearly recognized it and grabbed him with two hands on the back and tried forcing his head towards the ice.
Pinning first guys neck with his stick and punching him is the worst. The beginning of this. And then beyond.....
@@myklaaron7879 He doesn’t pin him with his stick it’s clearly below Buchnevich’s head. As for recognising Panarin losing his helmet it’s more probable that he didn’t. It’s easy to watch things in slow motion and say he had enough time but in real time everything happens very quickly, especially when you’re in the thick of it
@@nickwood1998 he had enough time to decide to grab his hair. That means he had enough time to recognize that he didn't have a helmet on. Regardless, helmet or not, he was trying to slam his head off the ice. Intent to injure...?
@@michaelmalus5041 Again the argument can be made that he wouldn’t have had time to see and recognise he didn’t have a helmet on so went to grab the helmet and it wasn’t there. He does pull the hair (which is out of order I’ll never condone that) but does release quickly which could be when he realised. Would you also say that Crosby should be given a similar punishment for slamming Konecnys head into the ice? Surely that is intent to injure by exactly the same logic but lots of people decide that one is acceptable and the other isn’t based purely on who the player is.
@@nickwood1998 and that is the issue here. everyone is laser focused on this particular incident and player. put Crosby in place of Wilson here...think anyone is freaking out? unlikely.
I think the biggest Dang-it is this video being posted literal minutes before the Rangers fired Gorton and Davidson so Steve couldn’t talk about it…
@@hmmm9411 Nope Hmmm's comment is now the biggest dang-it.
@@hmmm9411 Did Subban know Hamilton's shot from below the goal line was going to go off his skate and in? In most cases when a puck is going from below the goal line towards the front of the net you need to turn to get into position for the recipient of the pass but this was unfortunately one of those rare situations where it didn't work out that way. It's a dang-it because that's what you say (well, if you're being polite about it) in reaction to the situation, not always because you made a poor decision. In this situation, despite Steve not being able to anticipate that Gorton and Davidson would be fired, him not being able to comment on it because his post went up just before the news was released is likely something that he said "dang-it" about.
@@DETisHockeytown LMAOOOOO
It sounds like the statement was Dolan spurred and gorton and Davidson backed away from it
@@DETisHockeytown what was it
The Puck: Is behind the net
Goalies: I am therefore immediately leaving for Nepal, where I intend to live as a goat.
Nice Blackadder reference
😂😂😂
Nepali gang rise up 🇳🇵🇳🇵🇳🇵🇳🇵🇳🇵
Underrated comment
Not much difference from what happens here...
NHL: We're fining the NYR $1.5 million for this statement.
NYR: We're not paying. We're worth $1.5 billion and bring in millions of dollars to the League. Try to suspend the franchise.
You'd think the Rangers would have more leverage but also remember the Nhl could take away the next decade worth of draft picks from them if something like that happened
@@killionaire6891 Addition by subtraction, no?
@@gobobbyorr2928 If it happened, that could be the case for a little while, but they still have to draft for the future. We have to assume that they'll still be a team in 20 years, and trying to build around one team can only last so long. Even if they only lost 2 years of draft picks, that'd leave a huge gap in player development for the future. Im not sure what the Nhl would do but refusing to pay a fine, let alone a fine in the millions would definitely have serious consequences one way or the other
@@killionaire6891 But is it then in the NHL's best interest to have their biggest-market team sabotaged for several years because of this?
@@sethers probably not which is why id bet its not going to happen, its just a worst case theoretical scenario i suppose
No one is talking about how Wilson knocked panarins helmet off in the first place. Combine that with trying to slam his head onto the ice it’s a much bigger deal.
NHL: screws up
Steve's Dang-Its: allow us to introduce ourselves.
All the boys are about to drop the gloves right at puck drop tonight
All what boys? The Rangers have nobody. The dirty Craps have a bunch of cheap shot goons. The Rangers will not come out on top of that one.
I hope so. Wilson gonna beat some more ass tonight
@@Majorkip obviously troll is obvious
@@dealy9268 honestly it doesn’t matter if they are tough or not or can fight or not, they have to respond even if they get rag dolled it’s better than doing nothing and turtling
@@Majorkip hard for him to beat ass when he's twitching on the ground.
Even more egregious than the hair pull is the fact that he appears to put his skate behind Panarin's heel to ensure he has no way of saving himself as he pulls his helmet-less head back towards the ice..
He wouldn’t even let Panarin stand up to actually try and fight, he just threw him down again by the head
He wasn't suspended because the last thing the nhl player safety committee cares about is player safety
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Bingo, bullseye right on the money!🎯🎯🎯
As a Caps fan, I am legitimately surprised Wilson was not suspended. He should have been, to be frank. He's a hard time player but this is something that the team does not need to deal with.
Finally, you are the first caps fans that said that Wilson should be suspended and that we are over reacting.
Same here. It pisses me off because willy is a good player but if he wasn't doing stupid stuff all the time he would have a great reputation
Personally have no issue with a hard playing style. The amount of danger that he put Panarin in was the most suspension worthy. He goes off the rails far to often and makes far to many dangerous hits. The fact people are defending it (not you) blows my MIND, easily should've been 10+, I would argue it needs to be a similar length as the Raffi Torres hit mentioned in this video
Hell no. I agree Wilson has a bad reputation and is sometimes on a borderline thin line between clean and dirty, but the refs called the right amount of penalties on him. DoPS couldn't do much, they did fine him. "Justice was served".
@@6BfMV2 disagree. The punch could have easily been seen as an intent to injure situation, but his stuff with AP is obviously intent to injure and intent to injure is a suspendable offense. He grabbed him by his head and slammed him on the ice, leading with his head, then ground and pounds AP which bounced his head off the ice.
if a (previous) 7 game suspension isn't going to change how someone acts, a $5000 fine ain't gonna do jack crap :/
Literally, you want to get it through Wilson's stupid head suspend him for the remainder of the season and post season, get the team to actually take action against a dangerous player
Quoting former MLB relief pitch Duane Ward: " You wanna hit 'em where it hurts the most."
If a 7-game suspension or $5 000 fine isn't sending the message, perhaps a longer suspension and heavier fine will.
Nice guy JT Miller was considerate enough to take his anger out on the inanimate, non-living ice like a normal person should do.
😂😂😂 George laraque tweeted he’d love to play tonight 🤣 hell even Colton Orr is showing up
Panarin or the Rangers should get a crown. Strome rushed in to help get Wilson off, Panarin stepped in and even got injured trying to stick up for his teammates. If this was Auston Matthews in this situation trying to wrestle Tom Wilson away and getting hurt for it, I have no doubt in my mind someone would give him the crown just for the risk alone.
"Panarin stepped in". Or jumped on his back? "even got injured". dude was already injured. nice try though.
@@ctullydo jumping on toms back was the least aggressive action in that sequence. Tom slammed and punched buch then slammed panarin on his head and punched him multiple times to. I’m surprised no one went for Wilson’s head. If I was out there I would’ve baseball swung at his head. Guy is a POS and deserves to not be in this league. If the nhl won’t ban him someone should make sure he isn’t physically able to play anymore.
People would suck Mathews off for a secondary assist
@@collinjackson3535 they should
@@collinjackson3535 yes we would. And yes we giving props to Panarin. There's a reason we don't want our stars jumping into situations and today we saw first hand. So wether AP or AM jumps in they both get the same credit.
The Rangers were speaking for all teams by saying they're tired of the inconsistency in supplemental discipline. It just so happens that Tom Wilson is involved again and the resulting ruling has left a sour taste in everyone's mouth except those on the Capitals. What it basically comes down to is the NHL is telling the players to handle these things on the ice and they don't want to be involved. So now the Rangers are forced to take matters into their own hands. Who answers the call is the pressing question now.
Funny thing is, the Capitals have far more right than the Rangers do, to complain about the consistency of the Department of Player Safety… The league has repeatedly made it perfectly clear that injuring Capitals players is fine with them… Most recent example being when Leo Komarov boards Lars Eller, who ends up missing multiple games with a concussion… Komarov saw the numbers the entire way, yet still made that hit and the DoPS had absolutely nothing to say (Komarov did receive a 5 minute major for boarding though)…
@@glick200 you're exactly right
no they wernt. all the other GMs called the league to praise Parros
Even if he wasn’t a repeat offender...there should be a suspension. That was egregious 🤬
Wilson played all of four shifts tonight. All of this to get him on the ice for 156 seconds. Hope it was worth it, George.
Even though I just recently reached out for Steve to discuss this, I appreciate the views on this incident. It really opens the discuss on the Player's CBA and what needs to change if there will be any change. Also for those who bandwagon for a certain and you say, "You only hate because you don't have him on your team," you need to wake up. As a former hockey player(not in the NHL but as a hobby) I would be disgusted if a teammate was that blatantly violent and then shrugged it off because he has zero morals of how the game should be and needs to be played. At every level, there needs to be accountability for all actions and if you cannot be accountable for your actions, you have no business to get paid a salary for it. I know that there is a Tough Guy code, but what Tom Wilson, Raffi Torres and other repeat offenders have done is inexcusable. Go ahead and roast me if you don't agree. I am just putting my opinion out there. The fact that every generation of Pro Hockey has had issues like this proves that little has improved. There needs to be a change and the NHL needs to pick a thing, like Steve has always said. Pick a thing and go with it.
I had a teammate some years ago who was a problem, in a very similar vein to Wilson. Instigator, etc etc. Now, this league was a 16-18 league, so fighting wasn't allowed, but I hated that kids guts. Good player ability wise, but I damn near jumped ship just to not be associated with him. The idea that you only dislike a player because they aren't on your team doesn't apply to headhunters and instigators. It applies to people like Connor McDavid, who I can at least appreciate when it's not my team he's beating up on
Eric Lindros should be the new Head of Player Safety. Big, tough, talented and well respected big name player that had his career end too soon due to injuries and concussions (so did his younger brother). A good balance of both the tough guy and personal understanding in keeping players safe and healthy. No clue about his education or if he's qualified but at first glace I like the idea.
He’s an all around awesome human being
he for sure knows what a check to the head looks like, from both angles.
how about we extend the pool outside of former players with documented brain injuries? This is not a shot at Eric, I'm sure he is a great guy. But he has no specific training in communications, nor was he a ref as far as I know. He's not a lawyer who could create a foundation of how the standard of punishment could be less wheel of fortune and more standardized.
It should probably be someone who played at a fairly high level, Junior B or better, wasn't specifically a goon or all skill no grit mentality, be fairly educated at being coherent with a long view of justice.
If another player gets picked, it will be the same dance it was with Parros, Shanahan, Campbell... All good character tough guys....
@@rexfordmorgan7552 I am just talking about the Head of Player Safety. There are several members in the department that make the decisions and I agree they shouldn't all be former tough guy players. I agree a retired respected ref should be among the members such as Kerry Fraser and someone educated specifically in management/communications/HR. But overall I think a respected retired NHLer has to be in charge and be the face of the department. The person responsible for protecting players should be one of their own as they understand the game in ways none of us ever will. The unwritten rules, the nuances, common understandings amongst players, knowing what's a split second decision in a lightning fast game compared to a premeditated decision, along with all the rules in the rulebook.
Who better to represent the players interests in safety more than a former player, especially one who's career was cut short due to head injuries, publicly and actively fundraises for head trauma research, and was one of the main reasons we focus on head injuries in the game today.. The tough part is finding the a person that fits the balance of understanding the perspective from the tough guy/fighter, the pure skill players, the effects of injuries on careers all while being well respected, well educated and articulate.
@@FergiFerg11 My point is they have had plenty of figureheads with the exact same credentials and the same crap happens. It's almost like a figurehead is like a figurehead, symbolic but otherwise irrelevant.
You don't seem to see that everything you wrote as to why this person should be al former player is exactly why we are still having these silly conversations.
Get an educated adult who doesn't have a past history of being on the edge abd therefore has bias to scum. You want a former player in charge? Make it Paul Kariya or Joe Sakic. Maybe then we can ease away from nonsense like Wilson tough guying a scorer who just wanted Wilson to stop punching his teammate in the head.
How hard was it for the announcers to not just be like "God what a douchebag..."
I mean they can't say that or they'll get fined quarter a million
@@paologrisanti4627 by who? It’s on cable, the FCC can’t do anything about it
@@counterfit5 Oh yes they can… From the FCC’s website: “The FCC regulates interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire and cable in all 50 U.S. states, D.C. and U.S. territories.” If it’s on television, the FCC can do something about it…
@@counterfit5 I was actually making a joke because the Rangers got fined that amount for speaking up against Wilson. I didn't know they actually could
@@paologrisanti4627 they should've never been fined. The league should be taking accountability instead. They ain't fining me though even if I criticized them to their face
“League used to be safe”
Can Neely’s knees would like to speak with you
Paul Kariya’s head would like to know your location
Sidney Crosby’s head would like to know your location
Eric Lindros would like a word with them as well...
Ryan Miller might even want a word (he wasnt the same after being run over Boston and getting concussed)
Marc Savard would like to know where he is
People are having a serious issue with rose-tinted glasses, we have had more than one fight where one guy throws an unhelmeted opponent onto the ice this season alone but Wilson did it and now everyone is in an uproar about it.
The most surreal part of that argument is that it presumes that the enforcers would be too scared to get into a fight to play dirty. It's literally the only reason they're in the league in many cases.
Richard Zednik would like to hold a conference
Ex-enforcers being the head of player safety is the problem. They should have ex-Lady Byng winners being the head of player safety.
Someone call Pavel Datsyuk!
You mean Nathan mackinnon
Don't forget Andrew Cogliano got suspended 2 games with no history (ruining his iron man streak) for an accidental elbow to the head. As much as I love the guy, Parros has got to go
When Parros was selected to lead the DOPS, I honestly thought he was going to be a good harsh lead as a guy that was a frequent fighter who stuck to the code pretty dang religiously and was the victim of injuries and dangerous plays himself, only to be dumbfounded by how inconsistent they've been and astonishingly soft on some of the most notorious players "incidents" that have come through.
@@CattyAttie It's like they picked Parros for the optics but he's been declawed and is simply a figurehead/scapegoat. If that were true, he should resign. If he doesn't, it shows how out of touch he is with player safety.
McDavid and Roussel got fine for their attempts to injure, so I guess there is kind of a pattern. It's name is Parros.
They should have kept Shanahan as head of the DoPS.
100% agree to what you said Steve. And I give the Rangers credit for sticking up for their players and letting the NHL know that is it unacceptable for their lack of discipline of the situation. It’s mind boggling!!!!
The NHL really thinks they got this call right despite literally everyone telling them they blew it
Nah that’s not true, the problem is that a lot of people ARE saying the rangers are being soft and that he didn’t need to be suspended
@@alexbirchard4553 Funny thing is that both can be true. Rangers apparently don't have any guys who can fight anymore and the NHL blew it.
If Wilson was on my team, I would have hoped he would be suspended HEAVILY for this. He could’ve seriously injured Panarin in this, and that is not what hockey is about.
The issue is, if you read the Dept. player safety release, You can't suspend someone if there is No Rule in place to suspend him under. Tim even talked about that on his Tim and Friends show with Anthony Stewart. Tim went through the entire rule book and said there is no rule he could of been suspended under in regards to the Panarin stuff. He should have got a Suspension, maybe two game Minimum, for the punch to Buch head, but the Panarin thing there is no rule about it, which is why you saw the exact same thing from Konecny and Crosby yesterday, albiet a far more even match up.
@@slickrick02 that is interesting that there is no rule for it, they may have to put something in place regards to it. I don't think the Crosby event and Wilson event were the same because of the ferocity of Wilson in the moments. You can see it in his facial expression and such when slamming down Panarin and going after him. I don't think the two are comparable in this circumstance, because the history of the two players are different, and the intent of it appeared very differently. I think the Buch thing warranted at least 1 game, but considering the history, I would say 2-3 games. For the Panarin incident, even with no rule, he should've received the heavy suspension on, I would argue 10-15 without the history, 20+ with the history. That's just my take on it. A message needs to be made to Wilson here.
@@airwavv7054 Yeah, the most connectable rule is about "endangering other players to injury" I think Tim said, but it's such a pointless rule because every single fight is technically endangering a player to the possibility of injury. The crosby and konecny incident is very similar in context. Take out the head punch and focus on just Panarin v Wilson. The only difference between the two I see is Panarin was out of his weight/skill class trying to play Tom Wilson's game, where as crosby and konecny are far more evenly matched. If it had been Wilson being slammed into the ice by say Dustin Byfuglien, I guarantee there wouldnt be a massive outrage like there is now. The way I see it Anyone who enters into a scrum after the whistle does so at their own risk, and if they get injured or lose its unfortunate but this level of response about it is quite embarrassing. Also any suspension given to Wilson for the scrum would set a dangerous precedent, where the crosby/konecny tussle becomes suspendable, any after whistle tussle becomes suspendable etc and the game doesn't want that either. Kind of a hard situation for ol Parros, but somehow it's his fault.. like he wrote the rule book 🙄
@@slickrick02 Not sure I agree on that, Crosby/Konecny seems much less energy and malice. Long story short: I don't think the difference is just in weight/skill. Dude here breaks it down nicely I think ua-cam.com/video/K6lYgNSq9Xc/v-deo.html
@@HDreamer that link is quite possibly the most bias view I've seen. 1/10
Then when Wilson kills or ends someone's career they will say "that's apart of hockey" or "It's not Wilson's fault the other guy got injured" , etc.
Panerin should have not attacked Wilson.
@@stevenjack5428 if you cant even spell his name, dont comment on the situation lmao
@@stevenjack5428 Panerin didn’t attack Wilson Panarin did.
What an idiot
@@stevenjack5428 then Wilson should not have attacked Buchnevich. Clearly you didn’t watch the video because Steve very clearly pointed out the order of events
@@chuck3175 I agree Wilson should have not punched buch in the back of the head
steve absolutely nailed everything on the dot with wilson. couldn’t agree more with every point you made here.
As soon as I saw the Gibson and Allen Dang Its, I screamed “Golatenders...TEND THE GOAL!!” In my head.
Steve: We are going to do Tom Wilson last.
Me: Immediately scrolls to last.
And that's like halfway through..
thomas - same here... how stupid was that? leave a huge story to the end.
@@SK-wq8eo How can that be stupid. Very common thing everywhere s ppl stick around the whole video. Worked better before, like on cable tv, when we couldn´t just fastforward😉
Well. Some people actually watched what came before. I watch one and then went straight away to the Wilson. I don't mind the rant. I think it is definitely warranted. This creep needs properly punished or kicked out. Has been happening for way to long and it just gets more extreme
Caps fan here, Wilson should have been gone 10 games just for that sucker punch to the back of a downed opponent's head alone.
Officially not a Caps fan anymore bruv
Not ten games probably five at most. I think the league just wants to see action taken. A $5k fine is a slap on the wrist.
@@gdavies4 fr, the nhl has nhl teams who pay their players MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR, and think 5k is gonna change anything? They literally all have money flowing out of their pocket
i dont even watch hockey and Wilson should have gotten a 50 game suspension for that.fights are going to happen in hockey but what he did he wanted to really hurt the guy and he just laughs at it hes a terrible person
imo he should’ve been suspended for the punch, not the Panarin. Panarin jumps on Wilson there and Wilson does respond much too aggressively but imo it’s not as bad as the punch.
Fun fact:
Tom Wilson had missed more games due to a suspension, than the entire rest of the metropolitan division (including the rest of the capitals) starting from his first suspension in 2017
I'm not surprised. If you don't stop or don't truly punish this behavior then it will just continue and escalate as it clearly has.
The league doesn’t know what “too far”means
And that is scary
It’s especially alarming considering Todd Bertuzi broke another man’s neck not too long ago.
Edit: I think a lot of people including myself have referenced the Bertuzzi punch on Steve Moore in light of the Wilson incident. And then he proceeds to nearly turn panarin into a vegetable. It is all very scary.
It wasn't just Todd Bertuzzi that broke Steve Moore's neck. Granted, he was the one that instigated that whole incident that caused it all, but there was a few bodies that landed on Moore's head and neck area and that most likely caused the broken neck from all that weight on top of Steve Moore. I'm not trying to defend Todd Bertuzzi in any means and I apologize if it might sound like I am. I'm just saying what I think happened after watching the videos of that incident all those years ago. I hope something like that never happens again, but with the way some players like Tom Wilson are playing the game it's possible that another Steve Moore incident is probably inevitable.
@@kevinstull8552 yeah it’s impossible to know what exactly broke his neck. My take on it was Moore seemed to lose consciousness immediately after being punched. It looks like he fell and the top of his head broke his fall. Both being punched in the neck and falling like that could do the job...but like you said a dog pile of grown men jumping on top of him doesn’t help.
I hate the "you'd love him on your team" argument. I wouldn't, I've had dirty players on my favorite team and I didn't like them. It's a pretty tired attempt at defending dirty guys.
If he played clean, I would love him. But since he doesn't, I don't want that cancer.
I have Brad Marchand on my team and I hated all the licking crap
I think it's a joke that George Parros is the head of player safety... I mean who's next? Tie Domi?
To be fair I think tie domi would do a better job. He’s probably got way more respect for the players than parros
I mean even other former enforcers don’t condone what Wilson did. The NHL is a 🤡 league
Tiger Williams is free..
It's absolutely intentional. Wasn't it Pronger who hired him?
No Tom Wilson will be the next head at this rate
*As a fan of the Rangers AND sanity, thank you for the catharsis - ive been screaming the same stuff at my screen for two days*
So has Boomer Esaison on the FAN
Die hard Devils fan, can't stand the Rangers. But what Wilson, Parros and Bettman did is pure bullshit. So, for once, we're in total agreement.
Update: It was a BloodBath. 100+ penalty minutes. (141 in total)
Steve, you missed two points about the fine, I think. First, I saw someone run the numbers, and Tom Wilson made over $27,000 while sitting in the penalty box for 14 minutes after he did that. As you pointed out, $5,000 is nothing, and pointless. Second, a season or so ago Henrik Lundqvist sprayed Sidney Crosby with some water as he skated past, and he got a $5,000 fine. So, in the eyes of the CBA and the NHL, spraying water on someone is as bad as punching someone in the back of the head who's already down, then grabbing someone (possibly) by the hair and slamming him to the ice, causing an injury. (Disclosure: Ranger's fan)
Stick: exists
Lehner: Into the world of the Upside Down!
You are spot on with Wilson. Should be suspended for the rest of the season ... The NHL is going down hill and he’s driving ... sad
Rangers gonna have to take care of it since the NHL won't - Great Job, Player Safety Dept.
So how did that go? lol soft team
Fines would be set to a percentage of the players salary if they really wanted fines to be a detterent for bad behaviour. If youre getting charged 1-5% of your $3 million salary(maybe even getting bonuses taken away for the year) for stepping too far out of line, youd think twice before attempting to hurt people. If all your doing is making players shake out their couch cushions for change and giving them paid vacations, there is no incentive to change behaviour.
What the NHL fails to realize is their inaction has set a dangerous precedent. Even John Scott said as much, saying superstar players were now fair game in scrums. And if/when the NHL tries to suspend someone for it, that player and their team will point to ti the slap on the first they gave Wilson as a precedent against a suspension.
Hoping next week's dang-its includes the continuance of this circus. The league dropping a fine on the Rangers and then the Buchnevich situation is such a black eye for the sport. The NHL in one hand is trying to act like they are concerned about fighting and player safety while on the other hand they are continuing to allow Wilson to do the same old crap. Then to top it off by trying to shut a team up with a fine is ridiculous. With that said, I just gained a huge amount of respect for Artemi Panarin punching way out of his weight class to defend a teammate. Your skilled star players are not usually the ones you expect to do that sort of thing but it speaks volumes to his character and to the type of teammate he is.
I want to hear what Steve will say about everything that has happened since then as well.
As a Pens fan, I remember when Wilson in a playoff game hit Zach Aston-Reese with a horrible high hit that broke ZAR's jaw and concussed him. I can't remember if he was even penalized but he was suspended for three games, a lot of good it did. He's an out of control goon who needs to banned from the league before he kills somebody. Period.
I've always been a big fan of the caps and have always hated tom wilson. Idc what team he plays for or who he injured this is insane
Totally agree. Talk about a loose cannon
Go AVS we will win the cup this year
I'm a Blues fan. And I hate Tom Wilson too, mostly for trying to kill Oskar Sundqvist TWICE!
Holy cow! Never knew there was this many Karen’s out there!
@@RobertJohnson-nk6mz How am I a Karen for complaining about a dirty player cheapshotting the team I cheer for multiple times? You'd do the same thing.
The NHL Wheel of Discipline is literally just random numbers.
Thank you Steve for being a voice of reason
The Caps have two of my favorite players, but Wilson single-handedly keeps me from cheering for them anymore
I was looking forward for this episode!
I’m expecting the rangers to be hunting down Tom Wilson all game tonight. They better, because that was super dirty
the moment he steps foot on ice don't even wait for puck drop. Throw down the mitts and go.
Y'all know damn well Willy is a scrapper and we'll beat anybody's ass out there plus there is only one person who can stand up to Willy.
@@alfbeef5880 Oh really? Look at this guy, he probs could www.foreverblueshirts.com/nhl-drops-ball-with-tom-wilson-rangers-should-call-up-mason-geertsen/amp/?fbclid=IwAR3b3dUZFqdAMEfXodR5YBAjdzPJwn54jBT-0O2nQn27v-z7pWn9sjhJeFY
Solid guy
Rangers just aren't built for that. Fighting him one on one is only going to fuel his ego. Idk how they'll respond but buying into his bullshit isn't going to help
6:11: Steve: They have to contend with their own teammate. It's Damon Severson again right?
Oh it's not, that's a dang it
Dude I love this page. Youre hilarious and have so many good points to be made. Keep up the good work!!
“Dont you yell at me through the screen, i cant hear you!”
NHL Player Safety that’s it that’s the dang-it the only elephant in the room
why is it called player safety if it doesnt frikin make players safer
Facts
You read 1984, right? It's called doublespeak.
and the fact that EVERY Hockey fan will be watching tonight's game due to all this drama... the NHL will also not learn from their mistakes. they will be like "oooooo our ratings skyrocketed!"
The head of a department in charge of player safety that does not prioritize the safety of players is not fit to head that department. The Rangers address is spot on. Players have been suspended THIS SEASON for less. I don't understand how Wilson isn't done for year, other than the ratings and coverage the sport gets when thugs do thug things. It's disgusting.
The Tom Wilson incident was such a Dang It that the rangers fired John Davidson and Jeff Gorton (President and GM)
Wait what
@@jebisthegoat2772 mobile.twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1390015608713097216?s=10 here’s the tweet
@@bubbaloo8360 YOOOO I JUST SAW IT WTF
@@bubbaloo8360 why did they?
@@jebisthegoat2772 I think they wanted to distance themselves from the team statement, but I’m not entirely sure. I’m not a rangers fan so I’m not the best person to ask.
Friendly reminder that Tom Wilson lost a fight to a rookie (Trent Frederic)
laughs in smug Bruins fan
@@orencohen8501 hehe
Oh, yeah. That was disappointing as a Caps fan.
As a lifelong Bruins fan that was one of my favorite moments in Bruins franchise history.
@@nicksiede3030 Not the cup from 2011...?
I've been waiting for this video all day!
The Rangers really went off with 100% facts
Cal Clutterbuck's short-handed goal against the Sabres when Jacob Bryson fell during the pass. - That's a Dang-It.
Been waiting for this all week... I saw 22 minute video and I knew it was about to get real.
1:22 hahhhaha
"the old husband and wife right? you take it, i got it."
I really love the way you deal with events like this😄
I loved how the rangers played the "I don't care, I love It" song because of Wilson apparently liking what he did (shown by his facial expressions).
I think it was in Washington
@@yoloyogi9729 It was in New York
I know, I was laughing about it the whole fight. It was too much humor for me to contain, despite the serious nature of the scuffle
@17:46 not only is he punching him in the head while he's down, but if you slow the video down to a .25 playback speed you can see he is using his Stick in his left hand on Buchnevich's Neck to lift his head to get in better punches. That's could severely injure someone's spinal cord and take them out for life. His left arm and glove has been raised like 6 inches off the ice which prior to the punching was resting on the ground supporting his weight.
He never punched him in the head, and the rest of your commentary is just as bad
@@beardupbeerdown7355 So what exactly was the deal with the motion of his right hand between 8:41 and 8:42? It sure looks like a punch.
@@jonmendelson1104 why don't you watch an unobstructed angle? Then you'd actually see what happened.
Imagine only watching that one clip and then acting like you're actually aware of what you're time stamping.
@@beardupbeerdown7355 look at 9:27
And at 9:29 look at where his fist is, right on the back of his head.
He punched a defenseless player who was face down on the ice (pavel buchnevich) than slammed down a helmet less player (who yes, jumped onto him, so I don't really have a problem with him pushing panarin to the ice) but the fact that he then threw 2 gloved punched to a panarin after he was on the ice and wilson was clear he was helmetless. The fact that he hit him twice in the face for absolutely no reason is absurd that that has no statement from the NHL. Along with his history he should be out for at least 10 games. Calling for indefinitely is absurd, but he shouldn't see the first round of not longer. Argue it all you want but you can't justify what he did.
I think the new head of player safety should be someone who's career was defined by career threatening injuries, like a Paul Kariya.
Gained so much respect for you on this Steve. Anybody who’s defending Tom Wilson’s actions is either a biased Caps fan or completely clueless
As a massive Caps fan, it is an absolute travesty that Wilson got off almost scot free. He basically committed assault on the entire New York Rangers hockey team and all he got was a 5k fine. And costing one of the premier stars of the league the rest of their season is absolutely crossing the line. He should definitely have been suspended at the very least for hitting a guy while he’s down, let alone what he did to Panarin.
Maybe Panarin shouldn't have tried to ride Wilson like he was sea biscuit and he wouldn't have gotten rag-dolled.
@@mikem1006 maybe Wilson should punch guys in the head while they’re face down on the ice
Same way Sidney Crosby wasn't suspended...
Willy punched buch in the side of the shoulder after slashing vitek and threw panarin after he jumped on his back could he help that panarin had no lid on.. No. We've seen way worse.
When you commit aggravated assault and all you get for disciplinary is your Disney trip fund that you had saved up taken away.
I was watching that game against Anaheim, and the first thing I said immediately after watching that goal was “THATS A DANG IT!!”
You’ve gotten into my brain Steve, and now it’s the only thing I can think of when I watch a goalie come out of his crease
Wouldn’t surprise me if the next time Tom Wilson goes after someone like this, he ends their career. He’s reckless and the department of player safety needs to takes some steps to prevent that from happening before it’s too late.
True this was to far by Wilson but he has been suspended for no reason In the past like his last suspension this season was because as he was in the motions of making a hit the guy turned he’s back to Wilson after he saw Wilson was coming
Will it take someone to actually DIE for player safety to actually take appropriate actions?
@@Duck52494 Wilson managed to hit his shoulder into the head of a guy that’s 6’5". That’s an inch taller than Wilson’s listed height. He absolutely deserved that suspension
What adds the insult to injury to what Tom Wilson did to Panarin, was that Wilson INJURED poor Panarin in such a stupid way and yet, NO FINE OR SUSPENSION WAS GIVEN!!! NHL, WHAT IS WRONG WITH U?!!!
It’s getting to the point where Tom is going to end someone’s career or someone is going to end his.
You nailed it. That’s precisely what I’ve been thinking is eventually going to happen. Someone is going to end up blindsiding TW into early retirement.
v doubtful. Tom has barely done anything dangerous in the last 2 years. He did something a bit dodgy in MArch but thats about it. He didnt do anything out of the normal of ice hockey this time around. Wilson has been FAR more controlled and intelligent about his aggression in recent times. He is only improving.
@@anubisgod23 Could not disagree more.
Someone's gonna go seek and destroy on his ass. It's gonna be a BountyGate all over again.
What i cant understand is why there was a dead silence after macdavid elbowed a player and no one said that he should be suspended :D P.S. Yeah, Wilson, should be suspended or, for the next game NYR should call some 500-pound dude from the AHL to cripple the guy
Clearly you didn't pay attention.... PLENTY of people... (myself included) were upset that McDavid didn't get suspended for the elbow.
@@chrisdietrich8944 exactly it was hard to find somebody who wasn't pissed about the play.. everybody was upset how because he was a star player he got a bye
Sammy Blais at the beginning of the year: slight incidental contact behind the net
League: 2 Games
Wilson: Tries to outright murder Panarin
League: nah, here’s a fine.
He wasn't even fined for what he did to panarin though lol. he tried to murder buchnavich (Idk how to spell it) and then totally throws panarin on the ice by his hair.
And Ghost gets a hearing for pushing an opponent into the boards after a goal. Not saying it isn't deserved, but if Wilson only gets 5k despite being a repeat offender, why is Ghost getting a hearing?
@@gordon226 if panarin’s head hit the ice any harder his career probably couldve been over
@@wieoorennfrijejwmwl7391 100%, super dangerous play, I hate the rangers but panarin is having an amazing career and he's far from done.
@@Dr.Frankensteen for real, im a flyers fan and I watch a lot of their games and ghost is literally one of the least chippy players lol.
Great video, thanks for speaking out on this
Whenever i relate hair pulling and hockey I think of Kadri pulling Jumbo Joe's beard out
lmfao
Uh oh. Here come the Capitals fans to claim that Tom Wilson did nothing wrong...
@Reece Haberman defending himself by shoving not one, but TWO players' heads onto the ice. Classic.
@@MylordkronosRBLX no ones head hit the ice. Stop lying to yourself. We all saw the different angles.
@@Tom-yb6sl I think Buchnevich would like a word.
@@MylordkronosRBLX and he would probably say he was punched in the back across the nameplate and Wilson's stick wasn't on his neck. He would probably say he is fine and fit to play.
They are just aren't tough like Wilson
From a Habs fan with no dog in the race
@@Tom-yb6sl maybe you should go rewatch those angles
If Wilson suffered a career-ending injury, I would not be disappointed.
Would be a standing ovation from everyone but the Capital goons
@@snowfan0521 Even the caps players would low key be ok with it.
That'd be a hat pick my friend
If Tom Wilson had his legs shattered with a baseball bat, I would ask the mugger why he stopped with the legs.
He actually just had his knee blown out yesterday
I think people are missing the worse part. Wilson's stick was behind Buchnievich neck. He is lucky his neck wasn't broken. More dangerous then anyone mentioned.
I don’t think I have heard it put any better, you said it perfectly, in fact, I have been explaining it to other people for two days now and I couldn’t have said it any better myself, from all rangers fans, thank you!
And then the Rangers fired their GM and president for the announcement.
Spineless owner. Stand up for your players and executives.
I guess they didn't like the fact their team sounded like a bunch of drama queens who couldn't handle one idiot on their own. What Wilson did is not hockey... But neither is crying for your mommy.
The stupid thing right now is that the league is just HELL BENT on punishing everybody EXCEPT Tom Wilson. They're trying to say "Hey, look, we're doing our job!" when handing out 1 or 2 game suspensions to anyone with a FRACTION of what Tom Wilson is guilty of.
This is a little off topic, but to put it in prospective. If you are down on the ground and your head is against a hard surface. If someone is hitting you in the head or about to hit you in the head. It has been successfully argued in court that you can use lethal force to stop the person attacking you. The damage from a fist normally wouldn't allow this but when the head can't recoil to diminish the damage. It can easily cause serious bodily injury.
Zach Hyman after getting slashed in the back, and the calf doesn't make a high stick contact with Pionks face but still get's the max fine. Lundqvist sprays a bit of water at Sid Crosby, get's the max fine. Tom Wilson does what he did, also only the max fine. Absolutley mental rules.
Crosby and Konecny did each other dirtier than anything from Caps-Rags
But the buchnevich punch was unacceptable
Easily the most important and relevant dang-its video yet.
As usual I really enjoyed the video; look forward to Dang-its and Hat Picks every week. As for the Tom Wilson stuff, this might be the most reasonable take on it I've seen and also cuts through the other deflecting comments people have been making.
The biggest Dang-It is Dolan firing Gorton and Davidson