“This is not the preferred way to do this”. Jose my grandfathers Chevy in Cuba had a Russia fuel pump and a German master cylinder. What I am trying to say is. It doesn’t matter how you get it done as long as you get it done. Cubanos always find away. Keep up the good work.
This works just fine. Just don't keep it hooked up too long. I have charged up to 10 at a time. It really suck the 12 volt battery down so I keep a charger attached.
I am doing this right now - my 12 v batt was at 9.6 volts and I attached a charger to it, then I was like hum... should I have that charger attached to the batts too or not - see, when these batt are in the car, they are charged up to 17.8or so volts - so, if you do charge it increments, it will be fine - right now the 28 modules I have are at avg. of 7.54 - I want to bring them up to 8 volts before putting it back in the car - ANY suggestions?
So im hoping to see how you do a load and unload after the charge.. can you also show your machine (balancer). In detail.. like what kind a metal and how you made it from the bottom up. Please 😊 thank you for your videos. Very helpful.
Thanks for all of the great information you are sharing. I use your process to balance and Group charge my prius battery rebuilds.. ie connect all Negs and Pos.. to balance.. I use a hobby charger to charge the whole group.. I charge at .5 amp and up to 8.5 volts... the charger shuts off when the collective voltage is 8.5. Then I let it rest to balance. charge again.. repeat... This is what we can Top balancing... ??? My question to you is what could I use to discharge the 28 modules down to 6.3... let rest- balance..... discharge....... let rest - balance.. ie Bottom balancing. My ultimate goal is to be able charge/discharge 28 cells at a time... to recondition the individual cells in bulk. My current system only allows me to charge/discharge 4 at a time. How do I cycle (charge/discharge) 28 cell at one time.. To clarify... I understand balancing and bulk charging due to potential differential current... How can I charge and discharge 28 cells to attempt to recover Amp capacity.. Thank your for your time..
Sir, your explanation in Toyota Prius Hybrid batteries and methods you use to rectify faults are marvelous. I followed your methods and learned a lot. I have a 2009 Prius and it gives an alarm after several minutes when started the vehicle. But the vehicle runs with less AC. Once you stop the vehicle can’t start again. If you remove the small battery terminal and after few minutes when you fit the terminal back you can start the vehicle. I checked up with a scanner then you get a fault called “P0AA6” hybrid battery voltage system isolation fault. I noticed when I remove the batteries some of them had leaked. I replaced them with fairly good ones. But still I got the same alarm again. Could you please help me to rectify this problem. Hope you would reply soon.
In that way, of connecting and disconnecting the source power faster you become an switching mode power supply! Same principle and you do the control flyback yourself! 👍
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics its was a heartfelt compliment because i tried your technique and it did work. Another compliment...thank for so much for sharing your knowledge with us
What about using a 12V (output) electrical charger that has an automatic current controller..? It even totally disconnects when the battery module is fully charged, indicating FULL. I would like to know your thought. Thanks
Can someone explain why they have to be balanced? Is it just so they can be individually load tested? I have checked all 28 cells and they are (on average 7.75). Will the car balance them after installation? P.s. I replaced 4 cells with some i bought online and they have about the same voltage as mine. Thanks!
Great video! I have a 2013 ES300 Hybrid. it was parket for months and now it will not crank. Do yu know how to charge the hybrid system using a regular 12 v battery charger if possible?
Hi Buddy I have a Chevy Tahoe 2008 Hybrid we was on the freeway and we ouch the speed above 90 after the car turn off we can't turn on again we check codes and fuses and fuses are ok. But the code appears on the comouter tester is related with the hybrid module or battery, whatbis the best way to test the hybrid battery charge or the module hybrid control??
Hi , thanks for all your video , definitely you are a great help . Question if i don’t have the tool to balance the cells , can i charge them directly one by one fron the 12v battery?
I have a question to you is there option to charge this with approximately 10ah 12 v power supply in same duration of means 10 to 15 second may better way to charge when don't have 12v dry or gel battery is that possible?
I have a 2007 Ford escape Hybrid I head told I needed to change my transmission fluid. All the batteries are down. I have a new battery to go up front. I have no one to help me so what should be my first step. I bought a battery charger.
8 volt batteries are available for antique vehicles of 6 volt systems. The 8 volt battery is used to improve starting and of course daily use. This is normal to use an 8 volt battery on old cars.
I thought about splitting the hybrid battery pack into two batteries in series and then charging them with a 12v charger. If the battery is 7.5+7.5 to make a 15 volt battery, it would only charge if the 12v battery charger charges at 15 volts. Would it work if it charges at 14.5 volts tho?
So I did this, and plugged the safety switch with my charger still on. It blew the fuse/shorted the charger. I bought another charger, and now im not getting any voltage to the two wires. Before I was getting 278v. Is there a fuse connected to those wires, or did I mess the whole thing up?
I'm sure you get this all the time, but is it possible to charge the HV battery on a gen 2 Prius whilst the battery is still in the car? Mine is at a useless repair shop as the cat was stolen and the engine won't start after cat replacement. They "accidentally" drove it into the shop from the parking lot on EV mode and drained the HV battery, so I'm guessing I'm hosed since the HV pack gives power to MG1 to start the engine? The issue could be somewhere else too as the car stood for a year after the cat was stolen (2 times in a row). I'm pretty desperate here...sorry.
I replaced 2 reconditioned ones but they were about 6 volts sitting in the garage for sometime.will they charge by itself while driving ? Or i have to take them out again and charge?i still get a check light .yes i did load test when i found the 2 bad ones
is interesting and something to learn, do you have cells for 2012 panamera hybrid 970, I like to use their own system to charge the battery any ideas, I'm planning in buying the Porsche charger for Panamera 2014 and the port charging and hook these up to the system, I'm kind of lost, where to begin.
Shouldn't you be charging through a power resistor to avoid high current charging which reduces the life of the modules? Plus is that you can leave it charging for longer time instead of disconnect and reconnect. Even better to use a voltage regulator that auto stops charging when the correct voltage is reached.
Hello and thank you. I like this emergency method. A question, please: What is the maximum voltage for module when the battery is full? Thank you for a great job. Another subscriptor more. Bye.
Hi Hybrid Solutions. All my dash lights in 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid are on (Triangle, ABS, Engine, Check Hybrid System, Check VSC system) with code POA1B, C1310, C1259. Do you think it is because the hybrid battery is weak? Is there anyway to just replace the bad cells in the battery? Thank you.
I have a 2014 Hyundai hybrid sonata I got a ..stop and park turn off the car on my dashboard check hybrid battery charge I changed the whole hybrid battery and still say the same thing I also changed the starter generator still nothing what can it be???any ideas
Hi, Thank you for the video.I have a toyota prius 2010 and it gives me ( P0A80 ) and I did everything in the video and drove 350 miles. After this the code didn't go away. Could you help me, what else can I do?
Sir, I forgot to mention in my earlier comment that I cleaned all the terminal copper plates and wire cable terminals with alcoholic solution before reconnecting the batteries.
Ok you're a life saver!! I'll go the other route and buy a charger... so how many amps should a dedicated lithium battery charger be at when charging? You're a great mentor and thank you for the quick reply.
what if a do pairs in SERIES? 2x7.4v cells = 14.8 V Charged in pairs with a regular 12v battery (15.5v). or 3 cells = 22v +/- Charged with a 24v charger? The question is.... how many AMPS is advisable? Thanks for all your videos!! Good Job!
my honda civic hybrid is the same. 2 sticks in series which was supposed to read 14.8 but was reading 12v. hooked 2 car batteries with 700cca in series to make the 24v charger and every stick now reads 15v. just dont hold the power on there too long 15-20 seconds was long enough and i waited 15 mins to check voltage again and repeated maybe 1-2 sticks until they held power. car gets 10-15 more mpg from this so i see it as a win
Good question, I don't think this will work. Charging is based on the potential difference, so ideally the battery cell that you are trying to charge, by design should have less potential difference than the car battery which is based on 12.6V (by design). I think that's why Mr. Jose is charging all cells individually here in series.
I discharged the high voltage battery in my Hyundai Ioniq hybrid ( not plug in , just Hybrid) . Without, the ICE is not starting and without ICE no high voltage battery charging. Can I use this method to charge the HV battery so it can start the ICE? Where would I connect the 12 V battery plus and minus ?
HELLO, Sir I have p[rius 2010 but one cell8 is weak so how i can charge or balance parallel with a normal charger with 12 volts and how many amperes should be? Thanks
I have hoppy chargers about to do the discharge charge with 2 hobby charges 4 channels each. I also have a noco 12volt charger. My question is if I hook up negative to negative and possitive to positive. Can I charge all at the same time with the 12 bolt charger or the hobby charger.
If you're using a 12-volt battery to charge the group of 8 to 10 modules couldn't you use the same balancer and hook up A two amp trickle charger to the rack and slow charge Your group and then use like a headlight bulb and connect that with alligator clips to the rack to discharge the group and then repeat the process three times
How high in volts are these batteries capable of going up to? And whats the highest safe voltage I can charge them to? Also, is this an effective way to recondition the batteries? And how do I go about discharging them?
“This is not the preferred way to do this”. Jose my grandfathers Chevy in Cuba had a Russia fuel pump and a German master cylinder. What I am trying to say is. It doesn’t matter how you get it done as long as you get it done. Cubanos always find away. Keep up the good work.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
This works just fine. Just don't keep it hooked up too long. I have charged up to 10 at a time. It really suck the 12 volt battery down so I keep a charger attached.
I am doing this right now - my 12 v batt was at 9.6 volts and I attached a charger to it, then I was like hum... should I have that charger attached to the batts too or not - see, when these batt are in the car, they are charged up to 17.8or so volts - so, if you do charge it increments, it will be fine - right now the 28 modules I have are at avg. of 7.54 - I want to bring them up to 8 volts before putting it back in the car - ANY suggestions?
Pure Tesla or Edisonian reasoning. Caribbean "situational mechanics" at its finest! Genius! Earned a sub from this viewer!
You are the best..i am able to change my hybrid battery by myself..thanks to you💕
Glad to help my brother 🫡✅ don’t forget to share 🫡✅🫡✅
Love these series of classes, really learned a lot on how to perform these procedures safely & professionally👍😉
Thanks for sharing Bro, Stay Safe👍
So im hoping to see how you do a load and unload after the charge.. can you also show your machine (balancer). In detail.. like what kind a metal and how you made it from the bottom up. Please 😊 thank you for your videos. Very helpful.
as we can see the bottom is wood. Two rails of aluminum also screws big enough to hold the modules without moving. Hope this help.
Каква машина исползва за бавно зареждане?
Love how you keep it simple
Thanks for all of the great information you are sharing. I use your process to balance and Group charge my prius battery rebuilds.. ie connect all Negs and Pos.. to balance.. I use a hobby charger to charge the whole group.. I charge at .5 amp and up to 8.5 volts... the charger shuts off when the collective voltage is 8.5. Then I let it rest to balance. charge again.. repeat... This is what we can Top balancing... ??? My question to you is what could I use to discharge the 28 modules down to 6.3... let rest- balance..... discharge....... let rest - balance.. ie Bottom balancing. My ultimate goal is to be able charge/discharge 28 cells at a time... to recondition the individual cells in bulk. My current system only allows me to charge/discharge 4 at a time. How do I cycle (charge/discharge) 28 cell at one time.. To clarify... I understand balancing and bulk charging due to potential differential current... How can I charge and discharge 28 cells to attempt to recover Amp capacity.. Thank your for your time..
Sir, your explanation in Toyota Prius Hybrid batteries and methods you use to rectify faults are marvelous. I followed your methods and learned a lot.
I have a 2009 Prius and it gives an alarm after several minutes when started the vehicle. But the vehicle runs with less AC. Once you stop the vehicle can’t start again. If you remove the small battery terminal and after few minutes when you fit the terminal back you can start the vehicle.
I checked up with a scanner then you get a fault called “P0AA6” hybrid battery voltage system isolation fault.
I noticed when I remove the batteries some of them had leaked. I replaced them with fairly good ones. But still I got the same alarm again. Could you please help me to rectify this problem.
Hope you would reply soon.
I'm facing exactly the same problem now. Have you managed to fix it?
mr.kelly is proud of you sir... thanks
Can you sell me 5 good batteries for my Toyota Aqua
Based on this video. I would NEVER bring my batteries to this guy!
Very smart 🤣🤣🪫🪫💩💩
Can you do this with a Battery Tender at less than 1 amp & just leave it on over night? Or a Harbor Freight 500 mA 12v charger?
I learned about this and batteries in school but the follow up and exposure is needed
Thank you bro from Afghanistan ❤🎉
In that way, of connecting and disconnecting the source power faster you become an switching mode power supply! Same principle and you do the control flyback yourself! 👍
Except, no flyback here. Just, switch.
You talk a lot dude which explains everything very well beautifully explained
Was that an insult or a compliment? 🤔🤣🤔🤣🤔🤣🤔🤣🤔🤣🤔🤣🤔
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics its was a heartfelt compliment because i tried your technique and it did work. Another compliment...thank for so much for sharing your knowledge with us
You are awesome 😎 teacher I learn a lot from you 👏👏🙏
This is so clear and thoroughly explained thank you man
I like your classes keep up the great work
👍👍 Excellent material!
Thank you!
Thank you so much amigo👍👍👏👏, u remind me of nacho libre. My favorite movie
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Great job thank you. Easy peazy.
Thank you for the classes teacher
Your all video class is so much interested from Bangladesh
What about using a 12V (output) electrical charger that has an automatic current controller..? It even totally disconnects when the battery module is fully charged, indicating FULL. I would like to know your thought. Thanks
Informative vedio
Bravo por el trabajo que haces, gracias. Veo que en tu uniforme de trabajo pone tu nombre JOSE HERRERA. Nombre y apellido son de origen español.
Yes, the teacher speaks spanish...
Can someone explain why they have to be balanced? Is it just so they can be individually load tested? I have checked all 28 cells and they are (on average 7.75). Will the car balance them after installation?
P.s. I replaced 4 cells with some i bought online and they have about the same voltage as mine. Thanks!
very informative
Thanks for a good video it help a lot.
I’m very glad it helped 🫡✅
Good video bro. Continue to share knowledge on hybrid
Great video! I have a 2013 ES300 Hybrid. it was parket for months and now it will not crank. Do yu know how to charge the hybrid system using a regular 12 v battery charger if possible?
Hi Buddy I have a Chevy Tahoe 2008 Hybrid we was on the freeway and we ouch the speed above 90 after the car turn off we can't turn on again we check codes and fuses and fuses are ok. But the code appears on the comouter tester is related with the hybrid module or battery, whatbis the best way to test the hybrid battery charge or the module hybrid control??
I am Sajid from Pakistan
And your like your vedios
Jose is top man.
Smart guy.
That’s very handy thanks for sharing it
Hi , thanks for all your video , definitely you are a great help .
Question if i don’t have the tool to balance the cells , can i charge them directly one by one fron the 12v battery?
What setting would I use to charge the module packs with my EV PEAK CQ3 while on the balancer?
I have a question to you is there option to charge this with approximately 10ah 12 v power supply in same duration of means 10 to 15 second may better way to charge when don't have 12v dry or gel battery is that possible?
thanks for your knowledge
I have a 2007 Ford escape Hybrid I head told I needed to change my transmission fluid. All the batteries are down. I have a new battery to go up front. I have no one to help me so what should be my first step. I bought a battery charger.
8 volt batteries are available for antique vehicles of 6 volt systems. The 8 volt battery is used to improve starting and of course daily use. This is normal to use an 8 volt battery on old cars.
I thought about splitting the hybrid battery pack into two batteries in series and then charging them with a 12v charger. If the battery is 7.5+7.5 to make a 15 volt battery, it would only charge if the 12v battery charger charges at 15 volts. Would it work if it charges at 14.5 volts tho?
i love your explanation :) and your facial expression too :)
Would it be better to balance first, then load them using the battery?
Great discovery. Will try to use
Jejeje not a discovery (i wish) ... but it's just about potential difference 👋😎
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics interesting battery charger opportunity: sam.gov/opp/2f53591f33004fca8b82fe21ef846f39/view
Thanks brother
How to change SoC for Toyota Hybrid from SoC 80% to 90%?
So I did this, and plugged the safety switch with my charger still on. It blew the fuse/shorted the charger. I bought another charger, and now im not getting any voltage to the two wires. Before I was getting 278v. Is there a fuse connected to those wires, or did I mess the whole thing up?
I'm sure you get this all the time, but is it possible to charge the HV battery on a gen 2 Prius whilst the battery is still in the car?
Mine is at a useless repair shop as the cat was stolen and the engine won't start after cat replacement. They "accidentally" drove it into the shop from the parking lot on EV mode and drained the HV battery, so I'm guessing I'm hosed since the HV pack gives power to MG1 to start the engine? The issue could be somewhere else too as the car stood for a year after the cat was stolen (2 times in a row).
I'm pretty desperate here...sorry.
Can I connected all 20 modules together and then use your technic
Waiting for answer..........
You can do this with any number of cells as long as they are in parallel. Just be careful and take your time.
What should be the operating voltage of each cell in the vehicle?
Hi, as I guess I can charge 8*cells together by 12 v battery. It’s about 60v vs 12v right?
Thank you Jose for this amaizing way for fast charging..what about discharging is there any easy way...
U are the man
Jejeje thank you richard... glad you enjoy the video ☝😎
I replaced 2 reconditioned ones but they were about 6 volts sitting in the garage for sometime.will they charge by itself while driving ? Or i have to take them out again and charge?i still get a check light .yes i did load test when i found the 2 bad ones
At 6v they are very bad... nominal it's over 7.2v
Very interesting
If I charge all modules and they don’t hold the charge what happens???
Throw them to recycle 👋😎👋😎
is interesting and something to learn, do you have cells for 2012 panamera hybrid 970, I like to use their own system to charge the battery any ideas, I'm planning in buying the Porsche charger for Panamera 2014 and the port charging and hook these up to the system, I'm kind of lost, where to begin.
Send me the cells photo via instagram DM... let me take a look 😎👍
Surely that means the battery cables dissapate about 400W. Current is 100A, load approx 8V, car battery 12V therefore difference of 4V across cables?
Easy right 👊😎
like you mention , how do you discharge them super fast, as you charge them super fast but how do you discharge them super fast ? thank you
No need to... the load test should not be fast discharge 🤣🤣
If I connect a 12v charger to the 12v battery on the car and open the switch will this fast charge hybrid system?
After full charge do I need to discharge again and charge them again sir?
Shouldn't you be charging through a power resistor to avoid high current charging which reduces the life of the modules? Plus is that you can leave it charging for longer time instead of disconnect and reconnect. Even better to use a voltage regulator that auto stops charging when the correct voltage is reached.
With your statement you clearly didn't see the complete video neither understand the purpuse of it... 👉 ✔️
very good video very very good
Hello and thank you.
I like this emergency method.
A question, please:
What is the maximum voltage for module when the battery is full?
Thank you for a great job.
Another subscriptor more.
Bye.
They can reach up to 8.5v... thank you for your support 👋😎👋😎
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics thank you very much.
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics Is this for Nickel and Lithium toyota ? or just for Nickel ?
How did you build the battery holder? Anything special?
Thanks again.
Hi Hybrid Solutions. All my dash lights in 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid are on (Triangle, ABS, Engine, Check Hybrid System, Check VSC system) with code POA1B, C1310, C1259. Do you think it is because the hybrid battery is weak? Is there anyway to just replace the bad cells in the battery? Thank you.
Do a complete health test and send it over to our instagram DM 👋😎
I have a 2014 Hyundai hybrid sonata I got a ..stop and park turn off the car on my dashboard check hybrid battery charge I changed the whole hybrid battery and still say the same thing I also changed the starter generator still nothing what can it be???any ideas
Hi, this is Mark Form VA. Where did you say one can got to communicate with you? I have a p3024 code and and afew more comments. Thanks
Send me an instagram DM
Hi, Thank you for the video.I have a toyota prius 2010 and it gives me ( P0A80 ) and I did everything in the video and drove 350 miles. After this the code didn't go away. Could you help me, what else can I do?
Thanks for the video, Can we do that with the whole package? all the 28 modules?
Hi there. Thanks for your videos. How about the capacity of the cells? Is it possible to recover capacity of them?
Not to bad modules…
Guys, I need help. On Prius 3, where is battery block number 1, on the left, or at the right side, close to battery contol unit and fan?
Always the main negative is number one ☝️
So what charger would you recommend to use?
Hey man I can’t find a 12 volt battery for my Toyota Axio can u help me out
Happy new day please can recharge battery module that is 6-89volt on the hybrid battery
Throw it away
I have a question, if i charge like that do I need to discharge to make it work ???
Sir, I forgot to mention in my earlier comment that I cleaned all the terminal copper plates and wire cable terminals with alcoholic solution before reconnecting the batteries.
🙋♂️ sir i have a question..which is any possibility to create a plug in system for 2nd gen or increas ev mode range?
Awesome content!! Does this method apply to Lithium Ion batteries as Hyundai/ Kia use in their Hybrids?? Ty
No my you definitely should not do this with lithium batteries… it’s too much current flow..
Ok you're a life saver!! I'll go the other route and buy a charger... so how many amps should a dedicated lithium battery charger be at when charging? You're a great mentor and thank you for the quick reply.
Love you man
Why will my 2006 hybrid highlander not charging the traction battery until it reaches around 80km/hr?
what if a do pairs in SERIES? 2x7.4v cells = 14.8 V Charged in pairs with a regular 12v battery (15.5v). or 3 cells = 22v +/- Charged with a 24v charger? The question is.... how many AMPS is advisable? Thanks for all your videos!!
Good Job!
my honda civic hybrid is the same. 2 sticks in series which was supposed to read 14.8 but was reading 12v. hooked 2 car batteries with 700cca in series to make the 24v charger and every stick now reads 15v. just dont hold the power on there too long 15-20 seconds was long enough and i waited 15 mins to check voltage again and repeated maybe 1-2 sticks until they held power. car gets 10-15 more mpg from this so i see it as a win
Good question, I don't think this will work. Charging is based on the potential difference, so ideally the battery cell that you are trying to charge, by design should have less potential difference than the car battery which is based on 12.6V (by design). I think that's why Mr. Jose is charging all cells individually here in series.
Wich machine I can use to teste hybride battery pack damage?
my eyes literally widened seeing him connect the 12v. lol. could use a battery charger with a low amperage, to rebalance them low current.
I got hundreds of what I think is v1.5
What can I do with them?
Voltage from less than 1v to 7v
Thx
I discharged the high voltage battery in my Hyundai Ioniq hybrid ( not plug in , just Hybrid) . Without, the ICE is not starting and without ICE no high voltage battery charging. Can I use this method to charge the HV battery so it can start the ICE? Where would I connect the 12 V battery plus and minus ?
You have to connect all the
Cells in parallel.
At the moment all of them
Are connected in series.
But it's possible.
why you in jail. jk good video! knew they could take high amperage and discharge while everyone else hooking up milliamp chargers.
thx man, this great , pls in spanish too
Aren't u suppose to clamp them together so they dont bloat
HELLO, Sir
I have p[rius 2010 but one cell8 is weak so how i can charge or balance parallel with a normal charger with 12 volts and how many amperes should be?
Thanks
I have hoppy chargers about to do the discharge charge with 2 hobby charges 4 channels each. I also have a noco 12volt charger. My question is if I hook up negative to negative and possitive to positive. Can I charge all at the same time with the 12 bolt charger or the hobby charger.
I was wondering the same thing.
I don't see how not..
..I even considering not putting them all apart but charging in the pack. It's already set up to get charged.
so i not need discharge firts?
No
If you're using a 12-volt battery to charge the group of 8 to 10 modules couldn't you use the same balancer and hook up A two amp trickle charger to the rack and slow charge Your group and then use like a headlight bulb and connect that with alligator clips to the rack to discharge the group and then repeat the process three times
Is it possible to do that fast loading and unloading with a Lopo charger? in such a way as to help a full swing?
Not at all my friend... you will burn the module 👋😎👋😎
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics I appreciate your advice and the time you take to respond. you are a great master of hybrid cars.
How many cycle do I need as minimum sir?
How high in volts are these batteries capable of going up to? And whats the highest safe voltage I can charge them to?
Also, is this an effective way to recondition the batteries? And how do I go about discharging them?
I dont know the video number. But in other video in the channel he shows