I think we need to make Horsepower a legitimate religion. Which is pretty easy to do, and we have almost everything to make it happen. Then tracks could be classified as a place of worship. In doing so we can protect the tracks from many laws, tax free land, and you couldn't get pushed out. We just need one track to start it and to register Horsepower as a religion. Cleetus and Victor could make this happen!
Jesus built my hotrod...Amen. Actually if you look up what "Carpenter" mean in old Roman He built everything from houses, Ships, Chariots, bridges...I think if Jesus was alive today he'd be one of us.
@@BlackTownie999 I agree that he would be one of us! I don’t believe he was a good carpenter though, you never heard of any of his work which is why he got into the saving people gig. He found his passion. To like cars you don’t need passion but to love cars, you have to be passionate. It gives us purpose and pleasure. Like any great religion.
One of the most iconic tracks in Australia which was called Oran Park raceway was swallowed up by a new housing estate and all that is left of the track is memories and they named alot of the streets and roads after iconic drivers of Australian racing history. We too tried to stop it but when the houses got closer and closer there was no stopping it.
At least the track has been preserved in iRacing, the same as Pukekohe will be. It may not be there in real life but there is a laser scan of it that you can drive to this day
@philipthicthener3518 I could only imagine. Would have loved to be there on the last day for the memories. Unrelated but in the way similar, I was at the closing day of wonderland the old theme park in Sydney, that too was a sad day. They don't like when we are happy.
Calder Park had the same issue, been a race track and drag strip for ever and as soon as these dickheads build houses near by they complain about the fucking noise!! 🤦🏼♂️
I'm surprised cleetus or 1320 hasn't said anything about the Midlands track in Iowa. It's up for sale, the home of ice cream cruise and basically 1320s home track. Hopefully whoever gets it keeps it a track.
If you talk to your local police and fire , and open up the tracks for EVOC training (emergency vehicle operator course) , then when it time to fight the good fight , you will then have police and firefighters standing with you. That’s where we train, you can’t take that away…
My local gun club was the only club in the entire area where the national and local police trained, developers came - club was there for 70 years and got shut down due to noise complaints. Doesn't matter to the city if police/fire train there or not.
Sad and frustrating that people can buy a new house around a track that's been there forever and have the pull to shut it down. I don't promote massive growth but if it's going to happen there are other plots of land to build those neighborhoods on
@@TheInsaneShecklador I was on the board of directors at our range, which is one of the best in SoCal, and we talked about these things. Luckily, our property is surrounded by mountains and the club bought the property on the way in to ours to keep others from trying to boot us out. It looks like our speedway is being shut down as well. It was California Speedway and had just opened when I was in high school then became AAA speedway. It was Kaiser Steel before. People in the houses nearby caused the drag strip to close but the oval was still going. Everything here is turning into warehouses and homes, as this is the major logistics area for LA and Long Beach harbors where product gets sent out to the rest of the US from here.
If they build a new track compound, it would be incredible to also build a neighborhood with big garages as a racetrack community. Even build the houses with extra insulation for noise. Kind of like a small airport community. Hey, even a small airport and hangar community. Honestly, the advantage of it would be to protect from developers coming in and pushing you out because you’re the developer and the homeowners are racers. Then you just make it part of an HOA that includes the race park and gives the owners a discount for racing and viewing events.
I remember about 15-20 yrs ago a developer(s?) we’re pitching a facility like that in High Point, NC area. It had condos with garages underneath and viewing decks on the uppermost level. If it weren’t for my my wife, I’d have signed on the dotted line quicker like I almost did for a “Luxury Timeshare". LOL.
The bandimere family here in Denver are going to build a new facility near the airport so there's no more issue with noise ordinance and it's going to be a much larger and better facility than the current bandimere. Speedway is awesome of a place as it is and we will miss it 2025 the new bandimere facility is supposed to open for all of us race fans to enjoy. Fingers crossed all goes according to plan
threewheelingwithgene4254 I wouldn't be so sure about that. The Late Great O.C.I.R. was between the 5 freeway and the former El Toro Marine Air Base. And it closed back in 1983.
@@lilorbielilorbie2496 well with the support we give the drag strips around here. We can only hope with our support and going to the track. It will help keep it alive when they reopen the new facility. It sucks that the old one is going but we could see it happening every time you sat and stands and looked out at the new housing developments working their way closer and closer. We all knew it was inevitable that they would have to close it and move to a new location
🦅🇺🇸😎🇺🇸🦅 I'm at my job site by PBIR and I just happen to look up and fly low was a yellow carboncub I said that looks like Cleetus sure enough it was. Please Brother buy and save our local track 🤙🏼🌴
If Cleet wants to maybe make a shirt or other merch to fund the new track like the Freedom Factory Construction Crew I will buy! Also, good call on the Clips channel we can't all catch the long form podcasts, but still like the meat of the conversation. Subscribed
Good call on the clips. Timcast and others do the same. Super hard to sit thru the entire thing at once so we get to get the high hard ones and for you this'll monetize it twice.
My dad talked about investing in a business like Cletus’ but since he got cancer, he’s focused on healing. Maybe if he gets better we can do something crazy.
Money is the answer. People make and pay a ton of money to build and sell houses. If a race track wants to build next to residential areas, houses wont sell or build there and no money to be made. If an old race track is in operation and there is property around it that can be sold to develop housing that will make people money, they will try and eventually succeed in running the track out of business. Money is what makes most things happen.
Hundreds of airports are dealing with the same issue. Many airports that have been in it's location for 50+ years only to shut down when housing developments pop up right next to it...then the homeowners complain about the noise - next to an airport.
If they do have to move to a different, larger facility, they need dirt track, AND paved oval, and could do a race truck off road course too. I mean they could even have a jet boat course and run events out of there for all sorts of different racing types.
A new raceway for motorists could be coming back to Palm Beach County. The proposed site is just south of the 20-Mile Bend west of Loxahatchee. The raceway would take over 128 undeveloped acres that have become available after relocating a proposed ATV park.
The Bandimere situation was building for years. Lots of new development on the area. Honestly they probably made a lot of money holding out on selling for so long
The main issue is if the home owners around it persuade the town to make laws and regulations that affect the race track.. Very common thing towns do is send cops to sit and wait by the tracks and ticket everyone who drives their cars to the tracks.
The Denver area is turning into concrete tilt up warehousing, and track housing sprawl. The economic development zone has created some of this nightmare.
The same thing has happened where I live. We are 60 miles east of LA and Long Beach and much of the freight passes through our area before going up the 15 or 10 freeways out to the rest of the country. California Speedway is here but it seems it is being shut down. It is a big track and the drag strip there was already shutdown the same way. This area used to be chicken ranches and orchards as well as grape vineyards. It has changed drastically in just the last 20+ years.
I wish PBIR would come back As a local here it sucks not having a local track. Cleetus if you can buy it, as a GC here I will do what I can to help you rebuild it!
That is right. Sell when the land value goes up and then just build a new track and this time actually buy the land around it so that you never have to deal with it again. You can also subsidize the land to farmers so that it generates some money.
Until the development moves closer to the new track and rinse repeat. Or the city just won't zone the new area for a new track. This could very well be a situation of it being grandfathered in and once its gone they might not allow another.
The Freedom Motorsports Complex. it has a nice ring to it. Dirt Bike course, karting course, oval track, drag strip, shops, concessions, landing strip, hangers, mechanic shop put everything in one spot and surround it by trees for acres to prevent housing developers coming in and threatening it
If Cleetus is looking for other tracks or options in FL check out Immokalee Regional Raceway (1/8th mile) down in South West Florida ~ it also happens to be next to the Regional Airport.
@@anonymousscorpion6127 ~ Options are available was my point. Your opinions on 1/8th mile are meaningless to the conversation. And I'm sure Cleetus would disagree.
@@anonymousscorpion6127as an older fella that's been going to the track since 1965 I agree with you, but I also look at it from the owner/promoter side , 1/8 mile means less acreage to buy and pay taxes on, lower speeds mean lower insurance costs/liability, less time for runs allows for larger car counts in any given day, some racers prefer it because of less breakage.
Then the developers will start encroaching on the new track and rinse and repeat. My local track (only one left in the area) is going to be suffering from the same fate - developers are starting to buy up land around the track and if the city is trying to get the track closed. As soon as the first building gets built - the noise complaints will get it shut down due to our local laws.
There was some meeting not long ago about people Palm Beach International and they are going to build another one like two blocks before the track is already being fully processed I'm in West Palm Beach and I was looking at that at the motor vehicle I'm quite sure it's like an 130 Acres the new one Palm Beach International with only Twelve Acres
If you build another track, please have the oval/figure 8, drag strip and road course.... if you have the room a dirt track. If would be awesome to have a road course race track.
I know eventually it will be business savvy to sell the track Cleetus. When you build the new track, please add a goakrt track. Central FL is in need of another golart track after big Jorge shut down Ocala Gp. I will bring all my gokart race drivers and teams with me.
Build your new facility as an industrial park (UA-cam Content Creation park?) with warehouses and offices around the outside and the tracks in the middle. Dig retention ponds for the water and use those for jet boat races and a wakeboard cable park. Then rent out warehouse and shop space for the Cleeter/ Hoonigan/ Adam LZ experience. Build homes, hotels, and sell empty lots around the outer ring for horsepower enthusiasts to develop on their own.
Unfortunately, a shit down for both tracks inevitable at this point. Its just a matter of when. What would be pretty incredible is if the owners pf Bradenton paired up with Garrett to get a plot of land to build on. Would it be risky? Absolutely, you mever know what people may do in the future. However, I imagine they have an amazing relationship and would never wrong each other. See im thinking BIG BIG. Call it a 1.5 mile track so they can run mile drags with a very safe shut down, of course a circle track, and a boat track. Yes, all of that would be incredibly expensive, but I don't think it would be that bad with multiple investors.
The same thing is happening in SoCal with California/AAA speedway closing and houses being built and insurance companies dropping policies and not signing more.
I’m a little late to the party but I’d think Cleet and victor would need to start looking for land out east now. People are investing in empty land. For example, someone bought a ton of land in Arcadia and is turning it into another River Ranch where people can buy a piece to have access (and pay a property owners association fee) and use the entire area for hunting, riding, etc.
Investors are buying up land like crazy (all the big boys are buying up swaths of it - im talking billionaires and private equity funds) we are headed towards a market of - you will own nothing but pay rent to these guys.
If cleetus was interested in doing another abandoned track rebuild, he should look into Memphis motorsports track. They have a 1/4 mile track and round oval similar to their setup now.
If i were to buy a track like the FF or Bradenton, I'd be looking to with every profit buy as much land around it solely for protection. I saw the death of a track first hand in my teenage years, A track called Warner Robins Dragway in warner Robins Ga. it was in the middle of a cornfield off Hwy 96 and Houston ave headed towards Perry Ga. It had been in operation since I think the late 50's, I think it started as a 1/4 mile, but as cars got faster, it ended up being a 1/8 mile. It was a main haunt of mine throughout the 80's (my teenage years), never run on it, but wish I had. Anyways in the late 80's, they built a subdivision across the HWY 96 and as soon as people moved in the complaints came in, that was the death knell. though they tried to keep it open, the county (Houston county) pulled an eminent domain and took the land to build a new (third in warner Robins) high school. I was there the last night they had a race and the cops were called out every other hour, they ended up shutting the racing down and that was it. The point is, like i said at the beginning, If i were to buy or build such an enterprise, i'd buy all the land as i possibly can to do my best to lock it down so it couldn't be F'ed with
@@corail53, The point is, If they want you out of business, they will have to pay for it. And if you offer something people want, then it'll effect their elections in the future
I have 1600 acres in Alabama if you ever wanna expand. It was my dad's dream to build a dragstrip but passed away before he could. I WILL BUILD IT BEFORE I DIE. Already have the spot cleared.
houston needs a new race track the only ones near me are 8th mile track..im not driving 5-7hrs to dallas for a 1/4 mile track..its sad cause i spent the entirety of my childhood at hrp/
Brother! I just sent cleeter a DM, about UMC, since he is going to be here this weekend. Would love to have both of your help with a track issue we have here local to us. Seriously we need to save and embrace these tracks!!!
If you have a two lane entrance into the freedom factory you can maximize the access by using both lanes for entry at the beginning of the event and then use both lanes for exiting at the end of the event
If people choose to move and live next to an active race track, then they need not complain about the glorious noise and smells about their own poor decisions.
For real! How many people got stuck living next to a highway, a factory, railroad tracks, etc. and they didn't get to have that shit removed just to appease some stupid HOA.
That won't stop people from complaining and all it takes is one. People move next to international airports or under flight paths for 747's and complain to the city about noise. People move into downtown cores of major cities and complain about the noise. People run basic landscaping machines once every two weeks and voila complaints about the noise. People are stupid and don't take responsibility for themselves, they have to blame others. These people tend to lead very self centered boring lives and go out of their way to make others feel just as miserable as them.
I cant help but also think of more smaller events, maybe restructuring classes and what not so that you dont get 2 am racing that ticks off the voters.
Not sure if you two remember cfrc, but it got shut down for noise. What was really going on there was, kids with the ricer mentality were street racing right next to the track after it was closed for the night to follow curfew rules. Even though the track proved it wasn’t their fault and that they were having less street race related incidents in the area; it got shut down anyway. I know that sounds ironic but most of the people that went there were happy to have fun and leave respectfully when curfew hit. But I guess when 15 or more of your buddies can’t actually outrun anyone your best bet is to make a bunch of excess noise in your slow cars and ruin things for everybody else after curfew.
In Phoenix and we are loosing our drag strip, they are selling the land to build a freeway ramp. We had a strip, 3 skid pads, and 2 mini circuits that bondurant runs their formula Mazda cars on, a lake for jet jet boats and a dirt oval. Local drift and drags were affordable and were 15 for spectators and at least 1 Saturday a month. Sucks they destroy such a good motor sports park. Then they will complain there is to much street racing after there is no where to legally do it.
Hahaha yeah that happened where I live - we had a huge street racing scene back in the early 2000s as most place did - they were telling everyone to take it to the tracks (we only had 2 at the time) and then they closed one. Well street racing ramped up again and they wonder why. Our last track is on borrowed time due to the same development issues. The car scene here pretty much died and had it's final blow when the police decided to do a three year blitz on any car they deemed loud (this included stock vehicles coming off a dealer lot) and now no one drives any of their modded vehicles unless its for a boring sanctioned event which will get shut down at the first sign of a burnout and one exotic car meet that gets a police escort because all proceeds go to a childrens hospital.
So they closed my home track, atco dragway, legit 4 miles off my driveway, in July with no warning. Supposedly that same week a bunch more here on the east coast. It has killed so many peoples hopes around here it’s heartbreaking, my 8 year old son Paxton still cries when we pass by. Really hope the trend stops here.
Tax dollars supersede any other objective for any city, county, state. Unless the track pays as much or more in taxation as any other means. It’s on the chopping block for the area government.
Cleet cleet you build it we will come. Build a brand new freedom factory. 1/4 mile. Roundy round. And jet boat course. With hotel rooms come on lol. With the option to rent for the season
I can't wait for Cleeter to start digging for the new jet boat course🇺🇸
my thought this whole video
Imagine the Facility they could build on 500 acres. Jet boats, stadium trucks everything in one place would be sick
Jet Boats and swamp buggies!!!
Hell yeah!
Lets go brother
I think we need to make Horsepower a legitimate religion. Which is pretty easy to do, and we have almost everything to make it happen. Then tracks could be classified as a place of worship. In doing so we can protect the tracks from many laws, tax free land, and you couldn't get pushed out. We just need one track to start it and to register Horsepower as a religion. Cleetus and Victor could make this happen!
Amen, brother!
Jesus built my hotrod...Amen.
Actually if you look up what "Carpenter" mean in old Roman He built everything from houses, Ships, Chariots, bridges...I think if Jesus was alive today he'd be one of us.
@@BlackTownie999 I agree that he would be one of us! I don’t believe he was a good carpenter though, you never heard of any of his work which is why he got into the saving people gig. He found his passion. To like cars you don’t need passion but to love cars, you have to be passionate. It gives us purpose and pleasure. Like any great religion.
There is a religion dedicated to pasta the Pastafarians 😂, I dont see why not
So glad there is a cliip channel. I rarely have time to sit thru a full podcast, or direct all my attention to it while working.
Bingo.
A whole new facility for both tracks would be absolutely insane, I would donate to see that happen.
Right there with ya brother
@leadfootcity in Brooksville, new track coming in FL
Drag strip owner has enough and Cleetus also. So if they need to leave both, they can get plenty space.
@aj3405 that place sucks
I’ll probably never go there being in australia but sign me up.
Cleetus and Victor teaming up to build a whole new track somewhere would be awesome
One of the most iconic tracks in Australia which was called Oran Park raceway was swallowed up by a new housing estate and all that is left of the track is memories and they named alot of the streets and roads after iconic drivers of Australian racing history. We too tried to stop it but when the houses got closer and closer there was no stopping it.
At least the track has been preserved in iRacing, the same as Pukekohe will be. It may not be there in real life but there is a laser scan of it that you can drive to this day
That's not driving or racing, video games are for children.@@tinzalix8624
I was at the very last event racing my SW20 very sad day
@philipthicthener3518 I could only imagine. Would have loved to be there on the last day for the memories. Unrelated but in the way similar, I was at the closing day of wonderland the old theme park in Sydney, that too was a sad day. They don't like when we are happy.
Calder Park had the same issue, been a race track and drag strip for ever and as soon as these dickheads build houses near by they complain about the fucking noise!! 🤦🏼♂️
I'm surprised cleetus or 1320 hasn't said anything about the Midlands track in Iowa. It's up for sale, the home of ice cream cruise and basically 1320s home track. Hopefully whoever gets it keeps it a track.
Ice cream cruise is at i-29 dragway.
Not usable in the winter which almost last 6 months. I live in Iowa. it wouldn't work for what he does.
@@HeBillsHim no ICC is next to i-29 dragway, at the midlands track. thats like saying the freedom 500 is at bradington and not the Freedom Factory.
If you talk to your local police and fire , and open up the tracks for EVOC training (emergency vehicle operator course) , then when it time to fight the good fight , you will then have police and firefighters standing with you. That’s where we train, you can’t take that away…
Great idea!
My local gun club was the only club in the entire area where the national and local police trained, developers came - club was there for 70 years and got shut down due to noise complaints. Doesn't matter to the city if police/fire train there or not.
Sad and frustrating that people can buy a new house around a track that's been there forever and have the pull to shut it down. I don't promote massive growth but if it's going to happen there are other plots of land to build those neighborhoods on
Happened to a gun range near my house. The range had been there over 50 years.
Florida has THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF BRANDS NEW EMPTY HOMES, they can fuck right off with all this "progress"
@@TheInsaneShecklador I was on the board of directors at our range, which is one of the best in SoCal, and we talked about these things. Luckily, our property is surrounded by mountains and the club bought the property on the way in to ours to keep others from trying to boot us out. It looks like our speedway is being shut down as well. It was California Speedway and had just opened when I was in high school then became AAA speedway. It was Kaiser Steel before. People in the houses nearby caused the drag strip to close but the oval was still going. Everything here is turning into warehouses and homes, as this is the major logistics area for LA and Long Beach harbors where product gets sent out to the rest of the US from here.
It's all about real estate taxes.
What will the county get more revenue from, thousands of close to million dollar homes or a couple of race tracks?
@@iknklst Ding! Ding! Ding!
If they build a new track compound, it would be incredible to also build a neighborhood with big garages as a racetrack community. Even build the houses with extra insulation for noise. Kind of like a small airport community. Hey, even a small airport and hangar community.
Honestly, the advantage of it would be to protect from developers coming in and pushing you out because you’re the developer and the homeowners are racers. Then you just make it part of an HOA that includes the race park and gives the owners a discount for racing and viewing events.
I remember about 15-20 yrs ago a developer(s?) we’re pitching a facility like that in High Point, NC area.
It had condos with garages underneath and viewing decks on the uppermost level.
If it weren’t for my my wife, I’d have signed on the dotted line quicker like I almost did for a “Luxury Timeshare". LOL.
Exactly what I thought. And all property sold has a 99 year agreement to never go against the track.
The bandimere family here in Denver are going to build a new facility near the airport so there's no more issue with noise ordinance and it's going to be a much larger and better facility than the current bandimere. Speedway is awesome of a place as it is and we will miss it 2025 the new bandimere facility is supposed to open for all of us race fans to enjoy. Fingers crossed all goes according to plan
threewheelingwithgene4254 I wouldn't be so sure about that. The Late Great O.C.I.R. was between the 5 freeway and the former El Toro Marine Air Base. And it closed back in 1983.
@@lilorbielilorbie2496 well with the support we give the drag strips around here. We can only hope with our support and going to the track. It will help keep it alive when they reopen the new facility. It sucks that the old one is going but we could see it happening every time you sat and stands and looked out at the new housing developments working their way closer and closer. We all knew it was inevitable that they would have to close it and move to a new location
It sucks that even came down to this. Gonna miss going to the strip and driving by this on the way to mountains.
@@cupcakemcgee3175 and unfortunately the next thing to go is going to be the dirt track that the motorcycles race on just down the road
🦅🇺🇸😎🇺🇸🦅 I'm at my job site by PBIR and I just happen to look up and fly low was a yellow carboncub I said that looks like Cleetus sure enough it was. Please Brother buy and save our local track 🤙🏼🌴
A question I had was whether or not the insurance cost are killing these tracks amongst other things.
Didn't know Denver was over. I watched some folks test and tuning while hiking Dino Ridge on a trip out there.
If Cleet wants to maybe make a shirt or other merch to fund the new track like the Freedom Factory Construction Crew I will buy!
Also, good call on the Clips channel we can't all catch the long form podcasts, but still like the meat of the conversation.
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Guys I don't even live in America (Australia) and I'm going to miss Bandimere raceway, such a cool facility.
A new facility sounds great, can include a lot more racing disciplines e.g. a jet boat course, motorcross, etc...
Monster trucks and a runway for his flyins
Awesome update guys ! Unfortunately over in WA were live our local track is dying not as many events and no more Matsuri..
I used to go to PBIR when it was Moroso Motorsports Park in the 80's. Went to a Super Chevy Sunday there one time.
Good call on the clips. Timcast and others do the same. Super hard to sit thru the entire thing at once so we get to get the high hard ones and for you this'll monetize it twice.
Ol Garett with the best PR brain at all times
My dad talked about investing in a business like Cletus’ but since he got cancer, he’s focused on healing. Maybe if he gets better we can do something crazy.
I wish him well, i hope to see it one day
Hoping to be alive to see the "New Freedom Factory/Drag Strip" in the next 5-10 years! As Always, May God Bless you and yours!
So has anyone actually answered the question..if i could not build a racetrack near houses wgy are houses allowed to be built next to a race track
Money is the answer. People make and pay a ton of money to build and sell houses. If a race track wants to build next to residential areas, houses wont sell or build there and no money to be made. If an old race track is in operation and there is property around it that can be sold to develop housing that will make people money, they will try and eventually succeed in running the track out of business. Money is what makes most things happen.
MONEY MONEY MONEY!!!!!!!!!! Money
Because people require more and more amenities.
To the govt, cars only need a garage.
Please Buy Lucas Oil Raceway Park In Indiana. They just let it sit and rot. It has sooo much potential
Cleet you could run around and bring these tracks back. You know how
Reply from the hole interview, a must watch.
Hundreds of airports are dealing with the same issue. Many airports that have been in it's location for 50+ years only to shut down when housing developments pop up right next to it...then the homeowners complain about the noise - next to an airport.
I like where cleets head is at. And I think coop found his nitch. He should build a mobile studio in a race trailer and podcast at events.
If they do have to move to a different, larger facility, they need dirt track, AND paved oval, and could do a race truck off road course too. I mean they could even have a jet boat course and run events out of there for all sorts of different racing types.
Good show Cooper it fun seeing yall work together
Bandimere is like the Laguna Seca of drag strips. Great track but the location is what makes it so special. This is a sad moment for Motorsport.
New houses upping land value to incentivize track relocation... I like this positive spin!
A new raceway for motorists could be coming back to Palm Beach County. The proposed site is just south of the 20-Mile Bend west of Loxahatchee. The raceway would take over 128 undeveloped acres that have become available after relocating a proposed ATV park.
The Bandimere situation was building for years. Lots of new development on the area. Honestly they probably made a lot of money holding out on selling for so long
Yep every minute that they refuse to sell the sell value of the property goes up
The main issue is if the home owners around it persuade the town to make laws and regulations that affect the race track.. Very common thing towns do is send cops to sit and wait by the tracks and ticket everyone who drives their cars to the tracks.
I have heard that there's already movement on building a new track in PB to replace PBIR. (NOT reopening, a NEW facility)
The Denver area is turning into concrete tilt up warehousing, and track housing sprawl. The economic development zone has created some of this nightmare.
The same thing has happened where I live. We are 60 miles east of LA and Long Beach and much of the freight passes through our area before going up the 15 or 10 freeways out to the rest of the country. California Speedway is here but it seems it is being shut down. It is a big track and the drag strip there was already shutdown the same way. This area used to be chicken ranches and orchards as well as grape vineyards. It has changed drastically in just the last 20+ years.
Bandimere was dope, and it’s sooooo pretty.
What about the new 1/4 mile drag strip being built in Missouri?? They have the concrete almost done.
I wish PBIR would come back
As a local here it sucks not having a local track. Cleetus if you can buy it, as a GC here I will do what I can to help you rebuild it!
Tons of land up here in North Florida!! Come on up!
That is right. Sell when the land value goes up and then just build a new track and this time actually buy the land around it so that you never have to deal with it again. You can also subsidize the land to farmers so that it generates some money.
Until the development moves closer to the new track and rinse repeat. Or the city just won't zone the new area for a new track. This could very well be a situation of it being grandfathered in and once its gone they might not allow another.
The Freedom Motorsports Complex. it has a nice ring to it. Dirt Bike course, karting course, oval track, drag strip, shops, concessions, landing strip, hangers, mechanic shop put everything in one spot and surround it by trees for acres to prevent housing developers coming in and threatening it
It Sucks all the tracks closing. Sacramento Raceway the only Dragstrip in the Sacramento Area and its closing next year.
If Cleetus is looking for other tracks or options in FL check out Immokalee Regional Raceway (1/8th mile) down in South West Florida ~ it also happens to be next to the Regional Airport.
Sad he doesn’t do 1/8mile
1/8 mile sucks.
@@jasonbalester9298~ Easy fix with a dedicated car. Couldn't hurt to expand options!
@@anonymousscorpion6127 ~ Options are available was my point. Your opinions on 1/8th mile are meaningless to the conversation. And I'm sure Cleetus would disagree.
@@anonymousscorpion6127as an older fella that's been going to the track since 1965 I agree with you, but I also look at it from the owner/promoter side , 1/8 mile means less acreage to buy and pay taxes on, lower speeds mean lower insurance costs/liability, less time for runs allows for larger car counts in any given day, some racers prefer it because of less breakage.
I would love to see a series on building a new circle track and a drag strip that would be amazing and bring a whole lot of subscribers I think
Homes took my beloved Atlanta dragway.
Then the developers will start encroaching on the new track and rinse and repeat. My local track (only one left in the area) is going to be suffering from the same fate - developers are starting to buy up land around the track and if the city is trying to get the track closed. As soon as the first building gets built - the noise complaints will get it shut down due to our local laws.
There was some meeting not long ago about people Palm Beach International and they are going to build another one like two blocks before the track is already being fully processed I'm in West Palm Beach and I was looking at that at the motor vehicle I'm quite sure it's like an 130 Acres the new one Palm Beach International with only Twelve Acres
Woah I didn’t know these thoughts were happening!! Let’s go cleet I’m following and supporting
Figure 8's are the racetrack of the future. 🏎️🏎️💥🏎️
If you build another track, please have the oval/figure 8, drag strip and road course.... if you have the room a dirt track. If would be awesome to have a road course race track.
I know eventually it will be business savvy to sell the track Cleetus. When you build the new track, please add a goakrt track. Central FL is in need of another golart track after big Jorge shut down Ocala Gp. I will bring all my gokart race drivers and teams with me.
"where only on 181 acres of land" Cleetus....Shooot im on 2 acres with muh fire pit and RC car having fun LOL.
The fans will hopefully buy these homes and keep the tracks alive
Build your new facility as an industrial park (UA-cam Content Creation park?) with warehouses and offices around the outside and the tracks in the middle. Dig retention ponds for the water and use those for jet boat races and a wakeboard cable park. Then rent out warehouse and shop space for the Cleeter/ Hoonigan/ Adam LZ experience. Build homes, hotels, and sell empty lots around the outer ring for horsepower enthusiasts to develop on their own.
Unfortunately, a shit down for both tracks inevitable at this point. Its just a matter of when. What would be pretty incredible is if the owners pf Bradenton paired up with Garrett to get a plot of land to build on. Would it be risky? Absolutely, you mever know what people may do in the future. However, I imagine they have an amazing relationship and would never wrong each other. See im thinking BIG BIG. Call it a 1.5 mile track so they can run mile drags with a very safe shut down, of course a circle track, and a boat track. Yes, all of that would be incredibly expensive, but I don't think it would be that bad with multiple investors.
Sad they are building homes there. Also walls will be installed to keep the noise somewhat down. Think they will be about 12-15ft high
6000 new homes while houses are already uninsurable in the state because home insurance isn’t feasible.
‘Merica!!
The same thing is happening in SoCal with California/AAA speedway closing and houses being built and insurance companies dropping policies and not signing more.
I’m a little late to the party but I’d think Cleet and victor would need to start looking for land out east now. People are investing in empty land. For example, someone bought a ton of land in Arcadia and is turning it into another River Ranch where people can buy a piece to have access (and pay a property owners association fee) and use the entire area for hunting, riding, etc.
Investors are buying up land like crazy (all the big boys are buying up swaths of it - im talking billionaires and private equity funds) we are headed towards a market of - you will own nothing but pay rent to these guys.
Come down to homestead! Maybe there’s some land down here.
You gonna announce the speedrome coming to run fig 8 we will put a show on
If cleetus was interested in doing another abandoned track rebuild, he should look into Memphis motorsports track. They have a 1/4 mile track and round oval similar to their setup now.
If i were to buy a track like the FF or Bradenton, I'd be looking to with every profit buy as much land around it solely for protection. I saw the death of a track first hand in my teenage years, A track called Warner Robins Dragway in warner Robins Ga. it was in the middle of a cornfield off Hwy 96 and Houston ave headed towards Perry Ga. It had been in operation since I think the late 50's, I think it started as a 1/4 mile, but as cars got faster, it ended up being a 1/8 mile. It was a main haunt of mine throughout the 80's (my teenage years), never run on it, but wish I had. Anyways in the late 80's, they built a subdivision across the HWY 96 and as soon as people moved in the complaints came in, that was the death knell. though they tried to keep it open, the county (Houston county) pulled an eminent domain and took the land to build a new (third in warner Robins) high school. I was there the last night they had a race and the cops were called out every other hour, they ended up shutting the racing down and that was it. The point is, like i said at the beginning, If i were to buy or build such an enterprise, i'd buy all the land as i possibly can to do my best to lock it down so it couldn't be F'ed with
Even if you buy the land around it - the city can still shut you down.
@@corail53, The point is, If they want you out of business, they will have to pay for it. And if you offer something people want, then it'll effect their elections in the future
I have 1600 acres in Alabama if you ever wanna expand. It was my dad's dream to build a dragstrip but passed away before he could. I WILL BUILD IT BEFORE I DIE. Already have the spot cleared.
houston needs a new race track the only ones near me are 8th mile track..im not driving 5-7hrs to dallas for a 1/4 mile track..its sad cause i spent the entirety of my childhood at hrp/
Dude Cleet dont sell ever. The world needs those places to stay alive. And with you they would.
Brother! I just sent cleeter a DM, about UMC, since he is going to be here this weekend. Would love to have both of your help with a track issue we have here local to us. Seriously we need to save and embrace these tracks!!!
Utah needs a 1/4 mile NHRA level track again
If you have a two lane entrance into the freedom factory you can maximize the access by using both lanes for entry at the beginning of the event and then use both lanes for exiting at the end of the event
So how would you leave at the beginning or arrive at the end?
@@TrumpsEarBandage why would you do that? You'd have to wait for traffic to subside for being stupid
Don’t move. Stay put, put up two birds, and use your lawyering skills😎
If people choose to move and live next to an active race track, then they need not complain about the glorious noise and smells about their own poor decisions.
For real! How many people got stuck living next to a highway, a factory, railroad tracks, etc. and they didn't get to have that shit removed just to appease some stupid HOA.
That won't stop people from complaining and all it takes is one. People move next to international airports or under flight paths for 747's and complain to the city about noise. People move into downtown cores of major cities and complain about the noise. People run basic landscaping machines once every two weeks and voila complaints about the noise. People are stupid and don't take responsibility for themselves, they have to blame others. These people tend to lead very self centered boring lives and go out of their way to make others feel just as miserable as them.
@@corail53 well stated. I couldn't agree more
Heartland park in Kansas shuts down due to high taxes basically forced to shut down after 30yrs
I cant help but also think of more smaller events, maybe restructuring classes and what not so that you dont get 2 am racing that ticks off the voters.
Need a dirt oval you know Bristol in the street stock was addicting
Why not buy the devolpment, freedom acres, with racecar hoa?
Track side homes? 😎
Doubt he has hundreds of millions
Our oval track shut down for years and finally reopened this year
Who Won The Atom/Leroy Jr???
more than 1 track in Florida is still amazing considering its size....
Why is it amazing, you act like Florida is small 😂
no transition period where there is no track... love it
Not sure if you two remember cfrc, but it got shut down for noise. What was really going on there was, kids with the ricer mentality were street racing right next to the track after it was closed for the night to follow curfew rules. Even though the track proved it wasn’t their fault and that they were having less street race related incidents in the area; it got shut down anyway. I know that sounds ironic but most of the people that went there were happy to have fun and leave respectfully when curfew hit. But I guess when 15 or more of your buddies can’t actually outrun anyone your best bet is to make a bunch of excess noise in your slow cars and ruin things for everybody else after curfew.
We need someone to buy all the houses up and rent them as air bnb for track events
Glad to hear that
Lets just start an HOA of race car drivers for the houses next to the FF
i love the monument track too. she will be missed.
Garrett not using the coaster is irking me lol
Thank you Cleet!
Asserting his dominance over Cooper.
If you move a few miles east the interest in that land will increase and force you out again.
In Phoenix and we are loosing our drag strip, they are selling the land to build a freeway ramp. We had a strip, 3 skid pads, and 2 mini circuits that bondurant runs their formula Mazda cars on, a lake for jet jet boats and a dirt oval. Local drift and drags were affordable and were 15 for spectators and at least 1 Saturday a month. Sucks they destroy such a good motor sports park. Then they will complain there is to much street racing after there is no where to legally do it.
Hahaha yeah that happened where I live - we had a huge street racing scene back in the early 2000s as most place did - they were telling everyone to take it to the tracks (we only had 2 at the time) and then they closed one. Well street racing ramped up again and they wonder why. Our last track is on borrowed time due to the same development issues. The car scene here pretty much died and had it's final blow when the police decided to do a three year blitz on any car they deemed loud (this included stock vehicles coming off a dealer lot) and now no one drives any of their modded vehicles unless its for a boring sanctioned event which will get shut down at the first sign of a burnout and one exotic car meet that gets a police escort because all proceeds go to a childrens hospital.
So they closed my home track, atco dragway, legit 4 miles off my driveway, in July with no warning. Supposedly that same week a bunch more here on the east coast. It has killed so many peoples hopes around here it’s heartbreaking, my 8 year old son Paxton still cries when we pass by. Really hope the trend stops here.
This is happening all over north america.
How about the new track down in kc 😮
Cleetus hooking up with Travis and big things coming.
A new facility with two identical garages for a potential new show? Or a entire complex for other UA-camrs such as donut
Cooper laughing before saying he hopes pbir opens shows his character
Tax dollars supersede any other objective for any city, county, state. Unless the track pays as much or more in taxation as any other means. It’s on the chopping block for the area government.
If Victor had to build a new track I'd cool it the way Bandimere did theirs
Cleet cleet you build it we will come. Build a brand new freedom factory. 1/4 mile. Roundy round. And jet boat course. With hotel rooms come on lol. With the option to rent for the season
Man I loved pbir
Better yet... make a bigger track with steeper banks on the turns. That would be a game changer
You need a buffer of thick woodlands at least a mile thick all around the track.
great ideas but ya better figure out how to put butts in the grand stand ! the "back gate" business model is almost run out of steam