History in Five: The Real Ty Cobb

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  • Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
  • Learn more atbooks.simonandschuster.com/Ty-... Former Sports Illustrated executive Charles Leerhsen and author of 'Ty Cobb: A Terrible Beauty', discusses the legacy of the baseball legend.

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  • @senorstronk
    @senorstronk 8 років тому +358

    Cobb left 25% of his fortune to the Cobb educational foundation which has paid over 15 million in scholarships to needy Georgians. What a guy.

    • @fingmoron
      @fingmoron 7 років тому

      ahah by Georgians I thought you meant people from the country not the state for a minute heh

    • @loyaldude10
      @loyaldude10 7 років тому +7

      a lot of wealthy people leave some or even most of their fortune to charitable organizations when they pass away. there are tax benefits to doing so. I am sure he had difficult relationships with his children, considering his volatile and controlling personality

    • @joeferguson2606
      @joeferguson2606 7 років тому +16

      i bet a black person never got one penny of that scholarship money
      cobb was a racist.

    • @cowboysfan782008
      @cowboysfan782008 7 років тому +24

      Your simple mindless comment just screams out how fkn IGNORANT you are! Think about it, in Ty Cobbs day, with black just coming in to integrated baseball almost EVERY white player could be labeled as a "racist" by today's standards but back then colors just weren't mixed IN ANYTHING. I am no scholar but I do have a bachelors in business, I'm 48 years old and I have lived in So CA since 1977. Now a melting pot, back then it was mostly white with Hispanic sections, blacks in and around LA, etc. I have friends, (not just aquaintences), but friends of all backgrounds, and here's an observation: While so often, quite a large number of blacks and Hispanics want to point fingers, cry racism, and generally act like victims of discrimination, Asians, (who are generally way more fresh off the boat) than blacks and Mexicans find a way to profit and prosper. Why is that? Because they work hard, have strong family values, and don't waste their time complaining. We have soooo much more opportunity in the US than anywhere else and if you can't make it here then maybe it is you!

    • @loyaldude10
      @loyaldude10 7 років тому +3

      a lot of wealthy people leave some of their money to charity. there is a tax benefit to doing so.

  • @HoboJoe1416
    @HoboJoe1416 2 роки тому +21

    Thanks for getting Cobb RIGHT! Ken Burns did a hatchet job on him because he didn’t go to the sources for his information, merely relying on Stump.

  • @EAchank
    @EAchank 9 років тому +372

    I wish someone would do a proper documentary on Ty Cobb

    • @EAchank
      @EAchank 8 років тому +8

      +Andrew Pacholski that's cool
      i want to see the good and the bad cause he's supposed to be one of the greatest of all time top 10

    • @firebird_spleen4190
      @firebird_spleen4190 8 років тому

      +Andrew Pacholski a part not apart

    • @senorstronk
      @senorstronk 7 років тому +6

      +Kris Radke this guy. Lel

    • @JorgeCat78
      @JorgeCat78 6 років тому +41

      "I wish someone would do a proper documentary on Ty Cobb" - the Hollywood Communists will never allow it.

    • @crazysteve9390
      @crazysteve9390 6 років тому +11

      It looks like you have the man for the job right in this video.

  • @waltdude
    @waltdude 3 роки тому +60

    Ken Burns owes Ty Coob’s family an apology for his inaccurate portrayal . Now I question everything he produces.

    • @danaltenburg9656
      @danaltenburg9656 3 роки тому +10

      I agree. I used to love Ken Burns films and docs. Now I think he absolutely owes the Cobb descendants a big apology. How about that writer that started this...Stump?

    • @tikitavi7120
      @tikitavi7120 3 роки тому +18

      Remember, Burns is a flaming liberal, and those sick people tend to throw that label around incessantly.

    • @antiguanetwork5726
      @antiguanetwork5726 11 місяців тому

      @@tikitavi7120Shaddup, bih.

    • @Ruebennowell
      @Ruebennowell 11 місяців тому

      You have to now. He made that documentary about the civil war and then interrogated by the “woke” about how he felt about slavery, the confederate flag and threw those brave confederate soldiers under the bus. I’m not bragging it’s just a fact but I’m a direct descendant of 6 confederate soldiers and another one was a great great uncle confederate soldier killed at the Battle of Chickamauga. And another traitor is Tweed Roosevelt who is Theodore Roosevelt’s great grandson. He threw the former president under the bus and agreed with the mob that a statue of the president be removed. That’s even more disgusting than Ken Burns betrayal. Theodore and Franklin were great men. I would never throw my great great grandfathers under the bus to appease the mob that only care about their “feelings”. Truth be known, most of them are WHITE derelicts that just pay lip service to black people and just use the color of their skin to advance their evil plans. They don’t give a sh** about black people, gay people or any other minority they only use them to hide behind and play the race card and gay card when it suits them

    • @davidparisi5255
      @davidparisi5255 10 місяців тому +4

      Totally agree.

  • @ctcv-to8kq
    @ctcv-to8kq 7 років тому +54

    By coincidence, I just finished "A Terrible Beauty" today. I thought it was an excellent study of Cobb and I appreciate Mr. Leerhsen's 3+ years of work to clear up the misconceptions or flat out lies about him ( I came to really dislike Al Stump). I can highly recommend this book to any baseball fan.

  • @f1yank
    @f1yank 8 років тому +42

    I'm reading this book now. And enjoying it. Watching Cobb play must have been incredible.

  • @kenshawpga
    @kenshawpga 7 років тому +41

    Thank you so much Charles Leerhsen for humanizing my father's boyhood hero. I have always revered Cobb and have been leery of the tall tales of his character. Its about time he gets his fair shake and his difficult, yet normal/typical and or politically correct personality be accepted in today's society. The man should be a national treasure and legend. I hate that he is painted as anything less.

    • @antiguanetwork5726
      @antiguanetwork5726 11 місяців тому

      Ty Cobb was racist.

    • @jamescooper3571
      @jamescooper3571 9 місяців тому

      Leerhsen has only replaced one false narrative with another. Yes, Cobb’s “evil” has been exaggerated. But every other biographer- and there have been countless-would describe Cobb as a violent man on the edge, deeply unpopular, and strongly racist.

  • @Lava1964
    @Lava1964 4 роки тому +79

    I just read your book. it was amazingly eye-opening. Ty Cobb has been unfairly maligned for years!

    • @TheLuscious
      @TheLuscious 3 роки тому +2

      The biggest racist in MLB history

    • @patton3914
      @patton3914 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheLuscious So? He was one of the best to ever play.

    • @Renegade-jk4ux
      @Renegade-jk4ux 3 роки тому +2

      @@patton3914 so, huh? You’re okay with Cobb being a piece of garbage human being… Got you!

    • @NeverComplyEver
      @NeverComplyEver 2 роки тому

      @@Renegade-jk4ux your not complaining about Joe Bidens racist remarks over a 50 year career

    • @NeverComplyEver
      @NeverComplyEver 2 роки тому

      @@Renegade-jk4ux the allegations made my AL Stump, have been proven false. The scum bag tried to smeer a dying man to make money. Ty Cobb was never those things. 5 mins of research would tell you that. You chose to continue to spread lies without any knowledge. 🤡

  • @nbwall56
    @nbwall56 6 років тому +52

    Thank you so much for this balanced clip. Many people don't know this, but Cobb supported several retired players who were destitute.
    Pete Rose had the same determination as Cobb.

    • @MrTrackman100
      @MrTrackman100 3 роки тому +1

      Did you say Rose supported destitute retired players? I never heard that---proof?

    • @astrobullivant5908
      @astrobullivant5908 3 роки тому +3

      I got to know Dom DiMaggio a little bit, and he always spoke fondly of Cobb.

    • @MrTrackman100
      @MrTrackman100 3 роки тому +1

      @@astrobullivant5908 Thanks. Seems Cobb is finally getting his reputation restored.

    • @brucecarl3610
      @brucecarl3610 3 роки тому +3

      @@MrTrackman100 I believe he stated Pete had the same DETERMINATION Ty. No proof required.😊

    • @jeffryhammel3035
      @jeffryhammel3035 3 роки тому +1

      Wow. Thanks.

  • @tomtuttle5872
    @tomtuttle5872 4 роки тому +6

    I just finished reading Ty Cobb: A Terrible Beauty and I'm so relieved somebody got the facts straight. I live, eat and breath baseball 365 days a year and still feel that Cobb is the greatest of all time. NOBODY will EVER compare.

  • @stevevandien310
    @stevevandien310 6 років тому +11

    Leerhsen's Cobb bio is terrific. He dug much more deeply into the historical records than Ty's previous biographers, so much so that he dismisses some of the bad-Cobb stories beyond doubt and establishes others as dubious.
    AND CL writes like a bat out of hell upon which grace has descended. Great read.

    • @jamescooper3571
      @jamescooper3571 9 місяців тому

      Leerhsen has only replaced one false narrative with another. Yes, Cobb’s “evil” has been exaggerated. But every other biographer- and there have been countless-would describe Cobb as a violent man on the edge, deeply unpopular, and strongly racist.

  • @johnkoziol1537
    @johnkoziol1537 3 роки тому +10

    I learned more about the real Ty Cobb in four-minutes-eleven-seconds than I ever had.before. I DEFINITELY want to read Charles Leehsen's book "Ty Cobb: A Terrible Beauty!!!"

    • @wvu05
      @wvu05 Рік тому

      It's a great and informative book.

    • @jamescooper3571
      @jamescooper3571 9 місяців тому

      Leerhsen has only replaced one false narrative with another. Yes, Cobb’s “evil” has been exaggerated. But every other biographer- and there have been countless-would describe Cobb as a violent man on the edge, deeply unpopular, and strongly racist.

  • @jwr7138
    @jwr7138 5 років тому +61

    I think Ken Burns needs to rewrite his scathing portrayal of Cobb in his Baseball documentary.

    • @joeferguson2606
      @joeferguson2606 5 років тому +2

      nope, its the truth

    • @OneEyedKeys
      @OneEyedKeys 3 роки тому +20

      Nope. Burns did not do the proper research, as this man did.

    • @lisawhite6948
      @lisawhite6948 3 роки тому +2

      @@OneEyedKeys What research did this man do?

    • @Cincinnatus1869
      @Cincinnatus1869 3 роки тому +9

      @@joeferguson2606 why would you pretend to know that?

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 3 роки тому +5

      @@joeferguson2606
      Shut up.

  • @MeneerHerculePoirot
    @MeneerHerculePoirot 3 роки тому +4

    Buck O'Neil is on record as saying Ty Cobb was NOT a racist. He played winter ball in Cuba against black players every year. Far from bring a racist he hated everybody because they were going to try to takel his job. His one regret in life was never expressing to Tris Speaker how much he admired and respected him. He was a complicated often misunderstood man. RIP. Mr. Cobb. Your lifetime batting average will never be bettered.

  • @williamwhiting6285
    @williamwhiting6285 3 роки тому +9

    Mr. Leerhsen's book is fantastic. As a lifelong (74 years) Tigers fan, I learned a lot about Ty from my Dad, who saw him play. A pure ballplayer and hitter was Tyrus Raymond Cobb.

  • @stubobish
    @stubobish 3 роки тому +9

    Thank you for doing this video. I now have renewed respect for Ty Cobb.

  • @robertadams5107
    @robertadams5107 Рік тому +2

    I am 69 years old I've been a baseball fan for over 60 years I heard all them stories about Ty Cobb he gets a bad rap he was a smart businessman and help help a lot of his former teammates I wish someone would make an accurate movie of him the movie with Tommy Lee Jones was awful thank you for this interview

  • @GregJay
    @GregJay 7 років тому +18

    I used to be one of those people who believed all the nasty stories about Cobb but since looking into this that this Author started I apologize and will never talk bad about another person again from hear say. I am glad to find out he was not only a great player but a good soul as well.

    • @jamescooper3571
      @jamescooper3571 9 місяців тому

      Leerhsen has only replaced one false narrative with another. Yes, Cobb’s “evil” has been exaggerated. But every other biographer- and there have been countless-would describe Cobb as a violent man on the edge, deeply unpopular, and strongly racist.

  • @Diamondog186
    @Diamondog186 4 роки тому +8

    Thank you Mr Leerhsen for setting the record strait about the greatest baseball player that ever played.

    • @jamescooper3571
      @jamescooper3571 9 місяців тому

      Leerhsen has only replaced one false narrative with another. Yes, Cobb’s “evil” has been exaggerated. But every other biographer- and there have been countless-would describe Cobb as a violent man on the edge, deeply unpopular, and strongly racist.

  • @AmericanIsraeliJew
    @AmericanIsraeliJew 8 років тому +24

    I read a book about Ty. The book is around here somewhere. What really made me shiver was a story in the book. I think it was about Ty or a teammate where the player had tonsillitis. He went to the doctor like 6 hours before a game. The Doctor cut the tonsils out while he was wide awake without any pain killer. He made it to the game though. Those old timers were a different breed.

    • @simonandschuster
      @simonandschuster  8 років тому

      +AmericanIsraeliJew Thanks for the feedback!

    • @lancebaker3132
      @lancebaker3132 6 років тому +1

      Thank you for your tonsillectomy report.

    • @michaelmelen9062
      @michaelmelen9062 5 років тому +2

      The lack of anesthesia may also have been due to the low salaries they made at the time. When money is tight, you have to make difficult choices. Even so, a tough guy.

    • @joefaller4525
      @joefaller4525 Рік тому +1

      @@michaelmelen9062 Possibly , but it must have been early in his career because many years he was the highest paid player in MLB, earning $20,000 per year most of the 1910s. $20,000 was a very large amount of money in that decade. I just looked it up and the average income in 1915 was $687 per year.

    • @Mark-Mcloud
      @Mark-Mcloud Рік тому

      @@joefaller4525 It was at the start of his career when his mother had shot his farther he was operated on 3 times and a year later the same dentist was put in a mental hospital

  • @bobby33x97
    @bobby33x97 8 років тому +41

    Charles, I hope you can maintain your truthfulness, as the purveyors of popular culture don't like those who tell 'like it really is...'
    I've read TERRIBLE BEAUTY, it is MUST-READ for anyone who loves Baseball or History. Great story, expertly told!

    • @simonandschuster
      @simonandschuster  8 років тому +3

      Thanks for the feedback!

    • @drewsmith4452
      @drewsmith4452 4 роки тому +1

      I'm reading it right now. Great book and Cobb is becoming one of my favorite historical players!

    • @doublehelix1185
      @doublehelix1185 4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for your post, that book I will read!!

    • @drewsmith4452
      @drewsmith4452 4 роки тому +1

      @@doublehelix1185 You need to read it. It will make you reconsider everything about Cobb. He should definitely be celebrated!

    • @jamescooper3571
      @jamescooper3571 9 місяців тому

      Leerhsen has only replaced one false narrative with another. Yes, Cobb’s “evil” has been exaggerated. But every other biographer- and there have been countless-would describe Cobb as a violent man on the edge, deeply unpopular, and strongly racist.

  • @mehhhhist
    @mehhhhist 8 років тому +195

    when so much myth can be generated and believed about one man who lived only a century ago, it makes you wonder how wrong we are in our assessment of other historical figures going all the way back to antiquity. all it takes is one ill-informed or intentionally untruthful historian somewhere along the line to completely screw up someone's reputation for the rest of time

    • @two-face7527
      @two-face7527 7 років тому +13

      Archie Bunger Yup exactly.

    • @lancebaker3132
      @lancebaker3132 6 років тому +2

      @Archie Bunger, 66 word comment that I do not understand. If you refer to Cobb's reputation for being a hot-heasded, short fuse who react violently, well, that's true, not the result of an ill-informed or intentionally untruthful historian.

    • @quiztimmonds
      @quiztimmonds 6 років тому +1

      Lance Baker also racist as fuck.

    • @teller1290
      @teller1290 5 років тому +3

      sounds like you knew him.

    • @rickyray2794
      @rickyray2794 5 років тому +15

      quiztimmonds Turned out to be untrue.

  • @nbwall56
    @nbwall56 6 років тому +31

    One comment on the Ruth Cobb debate. When the inital HOF voting took place, Cobb received the most votes. These men saw both guys play. That's good enough for me.

    • @jerrybrownell3633
      @jerrybrownell3633 3 роки тому +4

      Cobb held the HOF Induction percentage record of 98.2 for 63 years until Tom Seaver topped it in 1999 with 98.6%.

    • @bridgmjm
      @bridgmjm 3 роки тому

      @@jerrybrownell3633 Don't forget Mariano Rivera 100%

    • @jerrybrownell3633
      @jerrybrownell3633 3 роки тому +4

      @@bridgmjm -You didn't understand my comment. Seaver was the first person to beat Cobb's 98.2%.
      Comment had nothing to do with Rivera. Griffey Jr. also beat Seaver's mark but again it has nothing to do
      with my comment.

    • @cornfilledscreamer614
      @cornfilledscreamer614 3 роки тому +2

      @@jerrybrownell3633 And the only reason Seaver and Rivera got higher numbers, was because they played in NYC - where the mainstream media is b(i)ased.

    • @jerrybrownell3633
      @jerrybrownell3633 3 роки тому +3

      @@cornfilledscreamer614 -That is an absolutely dumb comment. Main Stream Media has nothing to do
      with Hall of Fame voting. The Base Ball Writers Association of America( BBWAA)votes on and inducts the
      members.

  • @jedburlingham3593
    @jedburlingham3593 3 роки тому +1

    This is my first exposure to this 5 minute format to inspire people to learn important details of famous people to read more about. Children need inspiration to perform to be good at something, acquire heroes in life, and to learn of history. Ty Cobb was an important man in baseball history. As stated below, I too wish there was a good documentary of Cobb's life. I'm sure if someone put together sets of film's of his games, those would sell too. A .366 LIFETIME batting average (over more than 20 years) is a tremendous achievement.

  • @andersonanderson2650
    @andersonanderson2650 5 років тому +25

    .367/4,191 hits/2,138 Rbi/2,246 Runs scored/54 steals of home/12 batting titles-Amazing

    • @copperhead7558
      @copperhead7558 4 роки тому +6

      @MANCHESTER UNITED Soccer sucks.

    • @tummytamer4332
      @tummytamer4332 4 роки тому +5

      @MANCHESTER UNITED dude why are you posted on every American sport hero? Soccer has never been a American game we know its play around the world

    • @drewsmith4452
      @drewsmith4452 4 роки тому +4

      @MANCHESTER UNITED We don't care. Baseball is our game here in America. Stop posting this on every freaking baseball video.

    • @juliebraden6911
      @juliebraden6911 3 роки тому +2

      @MANCHESTER UNITED F.C nobody cares about your dumb kid's game

    • @one7decimal2eight
      @one7decimal2eight 3 роки тому +1

      @MAN UTD yes watching games end in a 0-0 tie sure is exciting!

  • @billsmith5985
    @billsmith5985 8 років тому +57

    Finally, a non-tainted bio of Mr. Tyrus Cobb!

    • @cobaltcanarycherry
      @cobaltcanarycherry 3 роки тому +1

      BOOOOOORRRRINNNGGGG.

    • @tyrusgerlach
      @tyrusgerlach 3 роки тому +1

      ........Raymond.....

    • @Cincinnatus1869
      @Cincinnatus1869 2 роки тому +1

      @@cobaltcanarycherry you'd rather hear the bullshit version of things , right? I'm sure it's disappointing for some people to discover that he wasn't actually a racist and a demon. I know how some like to imply that so they can feel better about themselves. It is a habit with people who have the all too common inferiority complex

    • @cobaltcanarycherry
      @cobaltcanarycherry 2 роки тому

      @@Cincinnatus1869 The book has factual value, which I welcome. I found the style tiresome at times, thus the comment. My family are from Royston and Franklin Springs and knew him personally. It would never occur to any one of those folks to believe a two bit Yankee yellow journalist over the man that brought his money home and spread it around to build the hospital, scholarships and other benefits to his neighbors.

    • @Cincinnatus1869
      @Cincinnatus1869 2 роки тому

      @@cobaltcanarycherry Stumps book has enough baloney to undermine any value as far as I'm concerned

  • @ExMachina70
    @ExMachina70 7 місяців тому +2

    Great job on the 5. Captivating to watch.

  • @jrneobliviscaris
    @jrneobliviscaris 8 років тому +30

    Outstanding research. Leerhsen unquestionably deserves a Pulitzer Prize for this!

    • @simonandschuster
      @simonandschuster  8 років тому +9

      +jrneobliviscaris Thanks for the feedback!

    • @lancebaker3132
      @lancebaker3132 6 років тому

      A Pulitzer Prize for a 4 minute 11 second UA-cam video? There is no category for that.

    • @juliebraden6911
      @juliebraden6911 3 роки тому +4

      @@lancebaker3132 honey, for the book. Are you paying attention at all?

  • @yuckyool
    @yuckyool 11 місяців тому +2

    I recall reading some of Ty Cobb notes on a Life Magazine article at the Elliott Museum in Stuart, FL. In his words, he wrote that Willie Mays was the best of the modern ballplayers and ranked with the best he ever saw (Tris Speaker, etc.). No mention of race, just an appreciation for great baseball.

  • @ericluchon5401
    @ericluchon5401 3 роки тому +3

    This was a phenomenal read. I loved the book so much and recommend it to everyone.

  • @chiefleapinglizard7502
    @chiefleapinglizard7502 5 років тому +28

    No one could get his hits but rose,and pete needed 2,600 more at bats.Never be another Ty Cobb.

    • @joeferguson2606
      @joeferguson2606 5 років тому

      Pete wasnt a racist.

    • @Lance-Stroll
      @Lance-Stroll 3 роки тому +2

      Would've loved to seen a younger ichiro give it a shot. We missed a lot of good years from him playing in japan

    • @Cincinnatus1869
      @Cincinnatus1869 3 роки тому

      @@joeferguson2606 why do you think Cobb was? His actions suggest just the opposite

    • @dins5066
      @dins5066 3 роки тому

      I've also heard Cobb was racist for many year's. That he hated black people so I'm not taking this new narrative to heart. Could be a PR stunt to clean-up his image

    • @Cincinnatus1869
      @Cincinnatus1869 3 роки тому +2

      @@dins5066 the way Cobb lived his life doesn't suggest that he was racist at all . In fact , considering the time and place he grew up in , he was remarkably non racist. His family had been abolitionists in previous generations. Cobb was known to attend Negro League ballgames and at least once he threw out the first pitch at a Negro League game. That doesn't sound like something a racist would do

  • @joshuafarmer3467
    @joshuafarmer3467 3 роки тому +3

    This is a real story of him-having had a grandfather raised in the Jim Crow South he hated Cobb because Cobb supported EVERYONE'S right to play. Maybe thanks to him we had Aaron, Vaughn, Bonds etc. Thanks for telling the truth S & S.

  • @mac2894
    @mac2894 3 роки тому +5

    Mr. Leerson, I read your book and found it to be marvelous!

    • @michaelbryant2071
      @michaelbryant2071 3 роки тому

      Bullshit, Cobb was a deep south racist all hos life. He was a terrible human being who died lonely, bitter old man.

  • @jamesstevens213
    @jamesstevens213 2 роки тому +2

    When asked why he'd only hit .300 against pitchers in 1959: "You've got to remember, I'm seventy-three now." Ty Cobb

  • @jugghead-1975
    @jugghead-1975 3 роки тому

    Just found you guys ! Been binge watching for real ! Great channel

  • @DrGiulian0
    @DrGiulian0 2 роки тому +2

    60 years ago today you left us.But you still the best ever. From Cuba 🇨🇺 with love.

  • @andrewscott8758
    @andrewscott8758 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you thank you for setting the record straight on Ty!!!

  • @tythegolfer6279
    @tythegolfer6279 2 роки тому +1

    One of my idols. Made the trip to Royston Georgia and it was worth every minute. Greatest Baseball Player ever.

  • @carymiller2403
    @carymiller2403 Місяць тому +1

    In my humble opinion the greatest baseball player of all time. He led the league in every offensive category that mattered at some point. And when you have extreme talent, people take shots at you

  • @warwolfii
    @warwolfii 8 років тому +11

    It is hard to argue with his assertion that Cobb was the first baseball celebrity. Perhaps he was, perhaps not. It doesn't really matter because Cobb was undoubtedly one of the first. But the man who changed the game of baseball from a roaring, drunken, violent entertainment to America's pastime was none other than Christy Mathewson. A college man, a non-drinker and a thorough-going gentleman, Mathewson popularized the better elements of the game and ultimately made it possible for a man to bring his wife and children to the ball yard.

    • @lancebaker3132
      @lancebaker3132 6 років тому +3

      The cause of celebrity status is related to scoring runs. Pitchers deserve recognition, but if you ask 100 people to name 5 greatest baseball players of all time, few if any pitchers will be named. This doesn't reduce the importance of pitchers, but it emphasizes the public's recognition of hitters. Sadly, nowadays best batting average is pushed aside for most home runs. LET'S HEAR IT FOR STEROIDS!!!

    • @MrAlumni72
      @MrAlumni72 6 років тому +1

      It was actually TB that got him in the end - his family had a history of TB taking them way too early. And yes, Mathewson was an excellent role model, even serving as the model for a literary pinnacle of athletic perfection (forget the character's name) but he also had a flair for the dramatic, wearing a long leather duster out to the mound, after everyone else was at their position.

    • @jrekdal
      @jrekdal 3 роки тому

      John L. Sullivan

  • @BeckVMH
    @BeckVMH 3 роки тому

    I routinely recommend this book, often on UA-cam posts that include some mention of Cobb. Fantastic book.

  • @VVNNGG
    @VVNNGG 9 років тому +19

    My favorite player of all time

    • @lloydkline7245
      @lloydkline7245 5 років тому +1

      2Live Ang the greatest hitter ever

    • @techdeck2638
      @techdeck2638 5 років тому

      why?? he is racist and a terrible human being

    • @jas9239
      @jas9239 4 роки тому

      Your favorite player that you never saw ever play one game ever but your favorite player all time, mmmkay

    • @juliebraden6911
      @juliebraden6911 3 роки тому

      @@techdeck2638 lol @ you for believing lies and commenting on videos you clearly didn't watch.

  • @michaelr.2428
    @michaelr.2428 3 роки тому +1

    This was GREAT. At a time where we need something like Baseball to help us forget the economic situation that is on the horizon for all of us, Baseball has become the sport of millionaires. Because of this, it seems like there's no way we can relate to the players, or them with us. Very few times you can watch your favorite team, and see the game played with passion. Its Great to once in a while be reminded of what this game was, and how and why the fans became so faithful. Thank you

  • @nicholasgreenwalt7983
    @nicholasgreenwalt7983 3 роки тому +3

    Great book. Well documented, interesting and informative.

  • @Cichlids23
    @Cichlids23 8 років тому +18

    Legend! As an ex pro ball player,ss, he was my hero growing up!

    • @jacobsavoie7989
      @jacobsavoie7989 7 років тому +2

      Yanksfan23 where did you play?

    • @joeferguson2606
      @joeferguson2606 5 років тому +2

      @Duane Allman probably hit .170 in the 2nd chance league,,,haha

    • @lloydkline1518
      @lloydkline1518 3 роки тому +1

      ❤ty cobb; master baseball ⚾️ hitter

    • @lloydkline1518
      @lloydkline1518 3 роки тому

      Really master hitting: basestealing; stock market:: etc etc

  • @darrellludlow
    @darrellludlow Рік тому

    Wonderful segment. Always been a fan of Cobb's and now I really want to buy the book.

  • @spconrad9612
    @spconrad9612 3 роки тому +2

    No one can tarnish a good reputation like a writer.

  • @RealBabesGhost
    @RealBabesGhost 9 років тому +31

    Let the truth finally be told. Charles knocked it out of the park

  • @jigalini
    @jigalini 9 років тому +15

    The best sports book I have read in years.

  • @kiltmanm60
    @kiltmanm60 6 років тому

    Wonderful! I have the book now and it is wonderful reading! Thank you!

  • @thetimetraveler6259
    @thetimetraveler6259 5 років тому +9

    Starts for me in center on my all time.'Nuff said.

    • @nibiruplanetx784
      @nibiruplanetx784 4 роки тому

      Same.

    • @Jacobthekid28
      @Jacobthekid28 3 роки тому

      Willie Mays starts in center field on my all time team. However, when it comes to dead ball era players, very few come close to Cobb.

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 3 роки тому

      @@Jacobthekid28
      Cobb said he'd pay to watch Willie.
      I actually DID! Willie's the best!

    • @teemusid
      @teemusid 3 роки тому

      You couldn't miss with a number of players. My list(of the top of my head) is Charleston, Mays, Cobb, Trout, DiMaggio, Griffey Jr., and Mantle.

  • @darioespino9088
    @darioespino9088 4 роки тому +5

    59 years ago you left us today....God bless you...From Cuba with love....

  • @pacificrules
    @pacificrules 3 роки тому

    I enjoyed watching this. Thank you for sharing.

  • @erinsandera7992
    @erinsandera7992 8 років тому +7

    Your book Mr. Leerhsen was one of My Favorites. well written and informative

  • @peopleskarmasquad1042
    @peopleskarmasquad1042 2 роки тому +3

    One of the true greats ever

  • @Ken4Pyro
    @Ken4Pyro 7 років тому +3

    Being a grandson of the South, I've been loathe to believe the charges of racist behavior leveled at Cobb, and one of my deep regrets is that I didn't look beneath the surface of the wildly offensive picture of him painted by the hack sportswriter Al Stump. I'm halfway through "A Terrible Beauty" and I can't believe I was so completely conned regarding Mr. Cobb. I'm so sorry to admit that I fell for the lies, and so delighted to know the truth. Thank you, Charles.

    • @TheUngaBungas
      @TheUngaBungas 7 років тому

      sup I am his great great grandson

    • @jaybrick8973
      @jaybrick8973 6 років тому

      Ken4Pyro wow you're related to ty Cobb ?

  • @kobenewwave
    @kobenewwave Рік тому

    One and Only.
    All the respect to the "Greatest Baseball Player."
    Thanks for uploading this video.

  • @michaelvonahnen3050
    @michaelvonahnen3050 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for thee information on Cobb.

  • @jamescollins4500
    @jamescollins4500 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for being so positive about Ty Cobb,

  • @the_purge_666
    @the_purge_666 Рік тому

    Thank you Charles.

  • @HigherPowerWorldWide
    @HigherPowerWorldWide 2 роки тому +2

    I agree that what we think we know about Ty Cobb may be becaused he was stereotyped many years ago. His reputation may have been skewered by those who wanted to besmirch his name in the late 1950's and 1960's. I will pray that if Cobb was an innocent man, that his reputation will be resusitated for good baseball players in future generations, no one deserves a bum wrap.

  • @chiefleapinglizard7502
    @chiefleapinglizard7502 5 років тому +13

    Cobb had more records than any sports star,save for Ruth.What a player.

    • @nibiruplanetx784
      @nibiruplanetx784 4 роки тому +3

      So true.

    • @rafaelreyes9
      @rafaelreyes9 4 роки тому

      Baseball star you mean?

    • @Kynorth1341
      @Kynorth1341 4 роки тому +1

      He has a more impressive record than Ruth

    • @lloydkline6946
      @lloydkline6946 3 роки тому

      Ty cobb owned the baseball records book in his hand

    • @stargater2011
      @stargater2011 2 роки тому

      You can't compare him or the babe compare to the players today the game is faster player's are bigger and parks are bigger.

  • @gt024
    @gt024 4 роки тому +50

    Very glad I saw this. I was raised in the 80's and 90's to believe he was a bigot. Shameful lie.

    • @waxdominioni3303
      @waxdominioni3303 4 роки тому +5

      Me too

    • @justinkline1294
      @justinkline1294 3 роки тому +6

      Yep, yep. Born in '78. Believed in the lie almost as a given until I recently listened to and read Mr. Charles Leerhsen, here. A true historian with fantastic research skills.

    • @forrestblevins6852
      @forrestblevins6852 3 роки тому +2

      Literally never heard anything different until this exact moment

    • @freds.9407
      @freds.9407 3 роки тому +2

      @ just be. Don't be fooled. Most of those early baseballers were racist. That was the sign of the times. I'm sure he didn't want to compete during his playing days. Remember what time period you are looking at.

    • @Cincinnatus1869
      @Cincinnatus1869 3 роки тому

      @@freds.9407 How many years did you play in the majors during the early 20th century?

  • @nibiruplanetx784
    @nibiruplanetx784 4 роки тому +4

    Cobb-An unbelievable ballpalyer!

    • @sammyweed4771
      @sammyweed4771 3 роки тому

      Ty Cobb best ball player of all time !!! Hands down !!!

  • @us-Bahn
    @us-Bahn 3 роки тому +1

    Thoughtful selection of 5 salient facts of Cobb’s legacy.

  • @padraigsheridan8316
    @padraigsheridan8316 2 роки тому

    He was a great man. I'm glad there is videos like this out there that are truthful.

    • @jamescooper3571
      @jamescooper3571 9 місяців тому

      Leerhsen has only replaced one false narrative with another. Yes, Cobb’s “evil” has been exaggerated. But EVERY other biographer- and there have been countless-would describe Cobb as a violent man on the edge, deeply unpopular, and strongly racist.

  • @TomBarrister
    @TomBarrister 3 роки тому +1

    I've read about 20 books and perhaps 100 articles about Ty Cobb, as well as sifting through various newspaper articles arhived online, and Leehrsen's book is the most accurate account of any of them. I highly recommend it.

    • @username-zj9id
      @username-zj9id 3 роки тому +1

      How do you know which stories are accurate and which aren't? I'm not being sarcastic. How do we know which stories to believe

  • @donbonnell9973
    @donbonnell9973 3 роки тому +2

    Good 5 minutes of excellent information

  • @MapleSyrupPoet
    @MapleSyrupPoet 4 місяці тому +1

    Extra sensitive ...exquisitely so ...we're the same Ty ❤

  • @Frank-el3fy
    @Frank-el3fy 2 місяці тому

    Thank you, sir. I read your book, the definitive story of s great ball player and man…

  • @jwr7138
    @jwr7138 5 років тому +4

    Now you can see proof of the old adage: the judgement of history depends on who writes it.

  • @johnfarias1373
    @johnfarias1373 8 років тому +1

    Thank you. This is so true and so kind of you to post it.

  • @m444ss
    @m444ss 8 місяців тому

    good stuff. thanks for sharing

  • @bobmalack481
    @bobmalack481 3 роки тому +1

    I always wondered for DECADES why I thought Ty Cobb was the greatest baseball player of all time, and I'm not a real baseball enthusiast (home runs not his fort'e) and now realize late in life why. I guess it boils down to if there was that ONE game that had to be played, and it mattered, and HAD to be won, Ty Cobb would be my all time number one player on that roster, Robert at 66.

  • @35diamondgirl
    @35diamondgirl 3 роки тому

    I visited the Ty Cobb Museum in Royston, GA, several years ago and enjoyed a conversation with the curator. Many of Cobb's descendants and extended family still live in the area, and have long disputed Al Stump's portrayal. Cobb was very generous to his hometown, building a hospital (which has been enlarged a few times) and creating an endowment so that economically disadvantaged students of Georgia could attend college (this fund distributes scholarships to this day). Cobb very publicly supported the integration of major league baseball, and was in particular a great admirer of Jackie Robinson, Roy Campanella and Willie Mays (locally, Ty Cobb's father, state senator William Cobb, was a vocal proponent of equal rights for blacks, which was quite unusual for a rural Georgian of the late 19th/early 20th century). While it's true that Cobb did not have many, if any, close friends during his playing days, not even among teammates, he apparently forged close ties with several other former players following the end of his career, a few of whom attended his funeral but many who sent messages of condolence to his family. As for Al Stump, one must wonder why he never published anything else of note following his Cobb books (the original was published in 1961, but the movie was based on a later edition). Al Stump had already been banned by several newspapers and magazines for writing fiction as fact.

  • @TheFreelanceTeacher
    @TheFreelanceTeacher 8 років тому +6

    This looks like a great book - as well as doing a great service to rectify the historical record.

  • @douglascrosby5100
    @douglascrosby5100 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent !!!

  • @josephweaver5385
    @josephweaver5385 2 роки тому +1

    Its always Great to Hear the Truth!

  • @beelzebub7979
    @beelzebub7979 6 років тому +6

    Ty Cobb-Greatest Center Fielder of all-time. Starts for me at that position.

    • @angrygrizzly8495
      @angrygrizzly8495 6 років тому +2

      Beelzebub Me,As Well.

    • @alienfootprints8611
      @alienfootprints8611 6 років тому +1

      Beelzebub Same Here,Bro.

    • @melodyanderson7295
      @melodyanderson7295 6 років тому +1

      Beelzebub Yep,Same.

    • @grimreaper5599
      @grimreaper5599 6 років тому +2

      Beelzebub Yeah.If I Did Not Start Cobb,It Would Be Speaker.

    • @icehouse6483
      @icehouse6483 6 років тому +1

      Beelzebub Yes,Same.Cobb Had No Equal,When You Combine His Offense With His Defense.

  • @jmad1952
    @jmad1952 8 років тому +9

    You wrote a interesting and fact filled book. Thank you.

  • @jaberwoky_
    @jaberwoky_ 3 роки тому

    Good to know ... thanks!

  • @dariowiter3078
    @dariowiter3078 8 років тому +8

    Cobb's batting average was actually .367.

    • @NoGoodBoyo1000
      @NoGoodBoyo1000 8 років тому +2

      It was re-evaluated to .366 several years ago.

    • @dariowiter3078
      @dariowiter3078 8 років тому +1

      +NoGoodBoyo1000 Oh brother! Revisionism strikes again! 😒

    • @NoGoodBoyo1000
      @NoGoodBoyo1000 8 років тому +2

      Yeah, they took two hits away from his 1910 season total.

    • @dariowiter3078
      @dariowiter3078 8 років тому +1

      +NoGoodBoyo1000 GEEZ!!!!! 😤😤😤😤😤 These sports nerds ruin everything, don't they? 😠

    • @NoGoodBoyo1000
      @NoGoodBoyo1000 7 років тому +1

      +Dario Witer I don't know if I should agree, seeing as how I likely am one! But yeah.

  • @Buggy-su4oy
    @Buggy-su4oy 3 місяці тому +1

    Bryan Cranston could play Ty as he actually was in a film...there could even be a scene with him in a restaurant giving a tip to a black waiter and thanking him for his service.

  • @ericdulyon4601
    @ericdulyon4601 3 роки тому +2

    He was simply the best

  • @jubalcalif9100
    @jubalcalif9100 Рік тому

    Fascinating ! I read Ty Cobb became a very wealthy man. I wonder if he invented the Corn Cobb Pipe. They were very popular at one time. Even Gen. Douglas MacArthur smoked one !

  • @Code.Name.V
    @Code.Name.V 4 роки тому +4

    I read an article that told what a great teammate, friend, family man and father he was.

  • @lofihouse16
    @lofihouse16 11 місяців тому

    🇬🇧Real Pioneer.
    And Father of Modern Baseball.
    LOvE from 🇯🇵
    Thanks for coming to Japan before Ruth

  • @Iron-sy4yp
    @Iron-sy4yp 3 роки тому

    Great stuff

  • @AvuncularFeldspar
    @AvuncularFeldspar 3 роки тому +1

    Wow - I grew up with the image of Ty Cobb as a horrible racist. Thank you for setting the record straight. Tigers forever!

  • @1sttvbn
    @1sttvbn 3 роки тому

    Just ordered your book.

  • @franke981
    @franke981 3 місяці тому

    It’s always nice to hear the truth…..although Christy Mathewson was probably the “first sports celebrity” having reached the Majors a few years prior to Cobb.

  • @markymarc37
    @markymarc37 2 роки тому

    Thankyou, my vision based on movie..the story of which you speak

  • @michaelmcdonnell7901
    @michaelmcdonnell7901 3 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @RichardKoenigsberg
    @RichardKoenigsberg 3 роки тому +1

    well done!

  • @leahmae125
    @leahmae125 3 роки тому +1

    well done actual history

  • @ScottnCarol4JC
    @ScottnCarol4JC 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice video about a classic great.

  • @Cincinnatus1869
    @Cincinnatus1869 2 роки тому

    In the 1920s , Reds owner August Hermann owned a resort property in my hometown, about 35 miles downriver from Cincinnati. Cobb spent time there as a guest of Hermann and I have a photo of him playing horseshoes there. It's one of my prized possessions

  • @bobmalack481
    @bobmalack481 6 днів тому

    At 69 retired, and only played a little softball in late 60's in P.E. class in Jr. highschool, baseball/softball was my 1rst
    sports love even though I did not play in my adult years
    In the 70's I was glued to the radio to listen to Vin Scully announce Dodger bssrball games. I lost interest in baseball, and by the late 70's and with Rams blowing a '79 Super bowl with Vince Ferrigamo. Being now 25ish I got turned on by the 49's and the Montana years, AND picked up my new direction as a 'serious' club Tennis player, not quite big enough/strong enough to get to the big time as an 'all court' player. Very quick, but no real big weapon. After years after this I settled down somewhat and with a few injuries that creep in your life from the '40's on I found out that Table Tennis suited me like a glove, even at my age and am competitive with players half my age at 69 at the club level. Its been a joy for a few years but by my '60s even that new endeaver waned. My point is now I returned to my '1rst love' so to speak ( a bat and a ball) from 40/50 years ago, and looking to join a senior 55 and up softball league this fall. At my age I can still move around quickly and do amything a 55 year old can do. I already bought all😢 the gear already, and at slow pitch I believe I can pitch with similiar traits as big league baseball pitcher. With a home backstop I practise and I have a sinker, a curve, scewball, a sort of 'rizer', and a palmball. Assuming I don't pitch or assigned to play 3rd. base, my goal is to be the lead off hitter PERIOD, convincing the coach that is with my dendencies, I get on base, spray hit/basehit for high average, tear up the basepaths a'la Cobb, let the big hitters behind me drive me in with gappers and the occaisional home run. I have Ty Cobbs name engraved on both my bats. I'm ready to go this fall and even going to order online the authentic short brimmed Detroit cap and matching uniform. These guys are seniors, and at slow pitch play they play as much for fun as serious winning games which is fine, and I'll will not knock that, but at the same time For ME I will set the tone EARLY on as a litlle bleep where I'm out here to win games and not to 'F around, even at our ages..LOL!! Hope this was not excessive, self absorbed or boring..

  • @dingers5days
    @dingers5days 7 років тому +1

    Great video. Currently reading this book on audible. The book is great so far. Leerhsen obviously researched this very carefully unlike other authors like Al Stump. He deserves something like a Pulitzer Prize. I would love to talk to him about this. Truly amazing work.

  • @wayneengle4473
    @wayneengle4473 2 роки тому

    Very interesting post about probably the greatest baseball player of all time. But why no video footage? Movies were around for virtually every year of Cobb's career.