Priestard - Sometimes we roll items we shouldnt be rolling = Sometimes Royson and I lose rolls on items and then decide to take them with the loot council instead 😉👌
He's doing it to generate content/talk about him. He's getting more viewers/subs. Just a scripted shit show. The flipping guy he ninja'd from is a member of another popular streamer and the rest of the group was his guildies.
@@Tk-et1lkthat doesn't mean anything kid lol stupid logic ppl play to unwind from there day kid. Same thing can be said when u cried cause your girl cheated on u its just a bitch kid ppl care about what they wanna care about don't watch then kid lol idiot I swear
Priestard claims to be "Head of Healing" on loot council, yet goes on to say he's not on loot council, but has also stated "Sometimes we roll on items we shouldnt be rolling" hinting again that he has a say on loot council. Couple that with the 45mins his bs story takes lol. So obviously disengenuous
Priestard - "Sometimes Royson and I (Lootcouncil btw) forget to tell people how the loot system is gonna go" The logical response - So next time how about you two arent a part of loot council and we get some other reputable members to fill your slots, and if that results in no issues, we keep doing things with the replacements.
Asmongold lecturing someone about taking loot has to be the most ironic thing to happen in wow. Didnt this dude constantly say he's the tank he needs it?
Ya all he does is take the best loot and then ban ppl if they don't give him or McConnell everything they want it's sad that ppl and play with him so bad they will give him everything for a chance dumb kids with no parental guidance really
I guess the one positive thing you can say about retail is that you don’t have to deal with this shit. What a headache. After keeping up with this drama over the past week, I’ve come to the conclusion that Roysun is a dbag. He seems like someone I wouldn’t want to grab a beer with. I didn’t want to jump to conclusions, but every video I see that features him makes me dislike him more and more.
Everyone forgets how much raiding sucked in Vanilla with trying to deal with 40 crying babies. 10 Man raids were a godsend. Though I think they should invert the reward structure in live. 10 man content should be harder and have better rewards than the damn flex raid bs. I have been in a couple where over half the raid was dead on the floor and they could still down content.
"dealing with this shit" is part of what makes vanilla great.. i know that sounds retarded, but it is.. just like the struggle of farming gold is what makes vanilla great.
He also was bigging himself up by saying how he was voaching n talking while being top healer, and this other healer needed a healbot blah blah sounds like a brown noser, freeloader
I know the video is old but it’s super fair to roll items the first few raids then distribute evenly so people are not left without an item a few raids in. Like you wouldn’t be able to do the raid if there wasn’t so and so many other people there to do the raid so it’s fair that everyone gets a piece. Big W for Mc and Asmon because of their reasonings
@@Jaaski1337 sure as long as all loot council gear is listed pre-raid. Not after everyone rolls and the person whom gm and officer wanted to have it did not win roll so you say loot council and give it to someone else. Thats not how it works. Loot council is made to gear up MT, legendaries and items that would benefit the whole raid. So for example lets say a hunter got the leaf quest item and went on to do kill all demons. Then the leaf drops on ony and there are 2 other hunters with no quest, you loot council to the hunter who need it to turn in right now and get rokdellar. The moment a gm and officers start taking advantage of loot council to gear up their friends and screw over the rest is when drama starts and the guild is in trouble. That is why all loot council rules should always be transparant in order to not surprise people and make them understand the reasons.
25:12 Asmon "if you do a roll, that roll should count", "i feel like a roll should always be the deciding factor if a roll is called", apparently not always...
basically if they roll for it and win, there will be no drama about it... if they loot council there's a chance someone will get buttmad about lootfunneling and things like that. this is basically their way of "winning it fairly" on the first attempt, and then when they lose the roll resort to "nah you know what, we'll council it" which ironically gets people even more salty...
that guy that took the onyxia head, will be kicked from my guild immidiately, he is completely detached from reality, and asking for gold for it, is completely insane at that point. destroy him and kick him and ban him from all world chats on faerlina
It's crazy to me lmao, it's so unbelievably shameless. Maybe I've just had decent luck with guilds, or because I'm not joining massive streamer mega guilds, but the idea of a guildie just straight up saying with no irony "Yeah but if I let everyone free roll on the head then I don't get it" is crazy
This is exactly why Blizzard changed how looting works to get rid of "loot consoles", "DKP" & other player created systems that more often then not had a person or group screw over other people.
my god that tank dude.. I'm gonna walk into a store and just start stealing and be like "I know it was wrong, but its the stores fault for letting me grab it soooo its mine now"
John Willy Flaten His logic was flawed but I can see why he does it. Royson is a colossal fuck up and shouldn’t be anywhere near the loot council. With his track record everyone is wary of Roy. And I think he was struggling with the fact that Roy gets off scott free and doesn’t lose anything in terms of power in the guild whilst he loses the onixia head he rolled on (despite the roll being unfair due to Roysons fuck up.)
@@k2k4 Then youd be a terrible guild leader or officer. You have to get all the information before making the decision. I would black list him if he doesnt give up the head, but you need to do your due diligence then
Honestly Royson's raid loot style which ACCORDING to them is free roll, council AND round robin.....complicated and shady as fuck. Sorry but it's BS. Royson is abusing the raid to gear himself and his friends.
Man being a guild master is hard asf it may seem smooth from the outside looking in but as a guild master its stressful as fuck. Glad i play black desert i play guildless because of the politics that come with it. But long story short he got it now he trying to keep it.
I just quit Olympus 8 because Fehras is GM. There is no leadership in the guild. There are a couple officers that are cool and the people that talk are usually chill but the future of the guild is bleak
Dude...sorry you had to go through this. This is why I play Horde, lololol!! I have raided, and unless the item is for my class, I just pass or greed for DC. But mostly let others have it. I am more interested in getting better. Come to the dark side....we have cookies...
SO many people DO NOT TRUST Royson. Why is he still in this guild? And once again, someone rolled on an item, and won it, and is asked to give it up. I would of left this guild a LONG TIME ago. Officers seem to "distribute" loot when they feel like it. Rolling is the ONLY true FAIR way to distribute loot.
Yeah that shit was cringe. Multiple people rolled on it in the first place, this TANK wins and it's best for this tank to have it. Yet they make him reroll it.. And the shitty mage who also rolled before and lost, now wins and gets the item lmao... Trash way to fix things.
The problem with this is that Royson tells people to roll ,but when his roysboiis don't win he loot counsels it to them. The reason he wants this head even if he doesn't roll on it is that his boiis have a chance on winning something that they otherwise would have had 0 chance on winning. Plus the chance that this takeshi dude loses is a bonus. Roysan is toxic and needs to be removed from power within the guild maybe even transferred to another guild as a punishment till they vouche for him.
When raid leaders fuck up, they are the ones responsible. It is his responsibility to make the loot rolls fair for the raid and the bribes come out of his pocket when he fucks up.
After listening to everyone, I was Maybe thinking about being in your guild, but it sounds very toxic in all of your guilds, so I pass but still watch your videos and make up my mind when the time comes.
naw, he was giving the ninja looter a taste of his own medicine, AND he's the main tank. It would have been the right thing to do. Maybe Royson wouldn't ninja so much after being on the non-receiving end.
I’m not in the guild or even really play so maybe I don’t understand the situation well enough. If Roy fucks up the loot how is it fair to make the guy who won it give it away? Especially when it works with his class? Wouldn’t you wanna punish the bad officer who fucked it up in the first place?
Possession is 9/10ths of the law. Whoever is in possession makes the rules. If Royston hadn’t fucked up then this guy wouldn’t be in possession and hold all the cards.
Yeah that whole system where you roll but it may not matter? WTF? Clear and defined loot rules must be established and understood. Man this Royson guy is batting 💯 with the fuck ups as a supposed leader.
cut ties with that guy. sometimes in leadership positions you just got to say "cool man you keep the head and you go and find a group that is going to willingly take a ninja into their guild, cause we are not doing it anymore with you..."
Thats why you arent the leader of a good guild. Your way = losing the head from the guild and losing the main tank. Asmon kept the head in the guild, kept the tank, and made it clear how to proceed forward.
@@t9t9t9t9t9 and that's cool that's his way about going about it.... my way is if your not willing to come to some sort of agreement that is fair after multiple times of presenting solutions and the main reason the issue happened. Cool do your thing, I'm going to do mine and you can be replaced... even if it means a step back to step forward. good luck but it's just not a match in my opinion.
@@t9t9t9t9t9 also you make it seem like asmon is perfect... we are talking about the same guy that got conned into giving up a boe and free helm crafts to a fucking con artist that openly admitted to being a extortionist then also shamed his ass for the same thing buddy did who he gave the piece. So your mans ain't perfect either.
If you just overturn every bad move by Royson wtf is the point to having ranks? Anyone can do his job if you have to come in and fix it all the time...
Honestly this is a common thread with Olympus, people Need, people ninja, and depending who is doing the ninja or who is affected your leadership approve or disapprove so the whole subject of ninja is skewed. However, with the Royson issue here in Onyxia, this is 2 times in 2 days where Royson is responsible for either 1 being unfair to other players including his guild mates or 2 making this huge cluster with raid loot. The tank Needing on it, in my opinion, is justified so long as he is willing to distribute it in the same manner as whoever the ML was, not to mention he needed because he saw someone else need and was just preventing himself from getting boned by a ninja who COULD have taken it and left. This tank was PUT in this position tho due to the carelessness again of someone who has a bad track record with Loot. I would say the solution is to give the responsibility of loot to someone else b/c everyone is always going to cause a problem when he screws up from now on. He is clearly not trustworthy to make decisions for a large group when he isn't responsible or fair when he's in a small group. Separate note tho, how is it fair to judge anyone for ninja when Asmon does the EXACT same thing for himself whenever he wants something. I mean come on now its so hypocritical. Asmon of all people should not be talking down to anyone who ninja anything in any capacity b/c he does it so openly and blatantly whenever he wants something as well and he also has a huge fanclub giving him stuff for free too besides. So, when you guys get on anyone for doing it when you so openly promote it by doing it yourself its kind of screwed up isn't it.
25:32 asmon is such a liar at this point in time. Cuz a Rogue won a dagger in Molten Core and didn't even get the item, there was drama and everything. LOL like wtf? I just caught this 4 years later.
Priestard - Sometimes we roll items we shouldnt be rolling = Sometimes Royson and I lose rolls on items and then decide to take them with the loot council instead 😉👌
my favorite part is the mono guy saying well i won 3 items last week but like 3 minutes prior was like we try to evenly give out items lol
yep loot council just means an officer didnt get the item he wanted
Yep...loot council was just a scam.
Sounds like its Roy that is causing most of this drama.
He's doing it to generate content/talk about him. He's getting more viewers/subs. Just a scripted shit show. The flipping guy he ninja'd from is a member of another popular streamer and the rest of the group was his guildies.
Nah they're leeching off him saying they ninjad cause he did
@@fatjonseatingadventures5429 na he genuinely just enjoys the "power" he has from being asmons friend in the guild lmfao its clearly ego shit
this roysin guy seems like more trouble than hes worth bois
I would have guild kick him a long time ago
He's stupid but he's Asmons bitch.
As someone that has nothing to do with admins guild, Roy is big time content. I hope the spegs dont run him down
Its twitch content why would he boot him
How does a raid leader fuck up loot after ninja looting? He needs demoted at the least. He can’t even stick to 1 loot rule and gears his minions
I'd say kick Roy, he might be content, but ur guild rep and morale is taking a nose dive. Not worth imo
Asmon cares about money more then stupid wow guilds lol
It’s a video game kid lol
@@Tk-et1lkthat doesn't mean anything kid lol stupid logic ppl play to unwind from there day kid. Same thing can be said when u cried cause your girl cheated on u its just a bitch kid ppl care about what they wanna care about don't watch then kid lol idiot I swear
Agreed.
@@Tk-et1lk Found the kid 😂
Priestard claims to be "Head of Healing" on loot council, yet goes on to say he's not on loot council, but has also stated "Sometimes we roll on items we shouldnt be rolling" hinting again that he has a say on loot council. Couple that with the 45mins his bs story takes lol. So obviously disengenuous
Also states people were mad that he got all the gear raiding the week before. Seems like a pattern.
@@vdKingpin ikr. Almost like he and Roysun arent exactly fair 🤷♂️
Roy is content.
But in general I think he should be kicked.
NonsensicalVids my thoughts exactly
Get better GMs for ur guilds. You shouldn't have to deal with 20 guilds drama.
At least something to do in this game
@@rsmith8113 Ha!
I see your point. I watch him regardless tho.
The drama is the only content they have. classic kek
Now I understand why Asmongold is paid like a CEO. He is basically a world class WoW CEO.
He's actually pretty good at moderating/negotiating. If he wasn't actually just after more content he'd probably settle it all up!
4 years later watching these old classic videos. All I can say is, I see why Jigszaw rose to power. HEAD OF HEALING... weak leadership.
Priestard - "Sometimes Royson and I (Lootcouncil btw) forget to tell people how the loot system is gonna go" The logical response - So next time how about you two arent a part of loot council and we get some other reputable members to fill your slots, and if that results in no issues, we keep doing things with the replacements.
the priest said he wasnt part of the LC
@@OG-zr3bw look at my other comment. He states firstly that hes head healer on LC
Asmongold lecturing someone about taking loot has to be the most ironic thing to happen in wow. Didnt this dude constantly say he's the tank he needs it?
Ya all he does is take the best loot and then ban ppl if they don't give him or McConnell everything they want it's sad that ppl and play with him so bad they will give him everything for a chance dumb kids with no parental guidance really
Im glad all these people are on the streaming server...please stay there
You gotta know that Roy is just automatically the bad guy in these situations. His reputation is already shot.
at this point just rename every guild to special olympus
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA that is sooo wrong.....but it feels so right. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That's offensive
Royson is the worst. I will never play with him. He is grimey, greese horse.
Damn, You don't even know the man
"he just wants attention man, give him his 5 seconds"... coming from royson lol, like he has any room to talk
34:00 actual guild members discussing in the background
I want to join this guild the drama is hilarious
exactly. The entertainment is off the charts
i think thats the reason ppl still playing this game
@@kissme1518 This drama is a drop in the ocean of reasons why we love this game 😊
I guess the one positive thing you can say about retail is that you don’t have to deal with this shit. What a headache.
After keeping up with this drama over the past week, I’ve come to the conclusion that Roysun is a dbag. He seems like someone I wouldn’t want to grab a beer with. I didn’t want to jump to conclusions, but every video I see that features him makes me dislike him more and more.
Everyone forgets how much raiding sucked in Vanilla with trying to deal with 40 crying babies. 10 Man raids were a godsend. Though I think they should invert the reward structure in live. 10 man content should be harder and have better rewards than the damn flex raid bs. I have been in a couple where over half the raid was dead on the floor and they could still down content.
"dealing with this shit" is part of what makes vanilla great.. i know that sounds retarded, but it is.. just like the struggle of farming gold is what makes vanilla great.
@Sad Life who said anything about real life
" I'm one of the head priests of the loot Council" a few minutes later " I'm not a part of the loot Council so I have no influence"
He also was bigging himself up by saying how he was voaching n talking while being top healer, and this other healer needed a healbot blah blah sounds like a brown noser, freeloader
Just change Roy to Olympus 1 and find a new officer for that guild... or just kick Roy, sounds like he's the issue in everything happening
Asmon playing favorites hard with Royson. Anyone else would've been Gkicked immediately.
Obviously. He has known Royson for years.
its just easy money drama sells
asmon favors
people who also look like some sort of deformed Bird/human-chimera.
I know the video is old but it’s super fair to roll items the first few raids then distribute evenly so people are not left without an item a few raids in. Like you wouldn’t be able to do the raid if there wasn’t so and so many other people there to do the raid so it’s fair that everyone gets a piece. Big W for Mc and Asmon because of their reasonings
"i'm head of healing department" lmao uber cringe
Asmongold is so patient. I'd be like, 'look. Trade the head to the roll winner and keep playing, or keep it and fuck off'.
Wait...then it went to a mage? ffs.
when i watch your video's i hear this royson alot how can he be an officer anywhere??
this shit is good though with popcorn :D
He's the guild leader for Olympus 2, which is scary as fuck. Basically he just going to do what he wants until someone puts down their foot.
Shelton Mitchell Asmon wont, he’s amazing content lmao
@@kaizouttv Even in this community, it's all about the money.
Horse Roy get all the Carrotts for himself
Just roll for everything loot council is for nerds with a power trip
Not really, its a good to Gear the People you know then you know that the gear stays inside the guild
@@Jaaski1337 its bullshit, its never fair, besides, people get g-kicket sooo much, It doesn't keep loot in the giild
This
Loot council should ALWAYS be applied in every guild raid imo, it's legit the best way to go about anything
@@Jaaski1337 sure as long as all loot council gear is listed pre-raid. Not after everyone rolls and the person whom gm and officer wanted to have it did not win roll so you say loot council and give it to someone else.
Thats not how it works.
Loot council is made to gear up MT, legendaries and items that would benefit the whole raid. So for example lets say a hunter got the leaf quest item and went on to do kill all demons. Then the leaf drops on ony and there are 2 other hunters with no quest, you loot council to the hunter who need it to turn in right now and get rokdellar.
The moment a gm and officers start taking advantage of loot council to gear up their friends and screw over the rest is when drama starts and the guild is in trouble.
That is why all loot council rules should always be transparant in order to not surprise people and make them understand the reasons.
Roy “just give him his 5 seconds” while sitting on asmons stream
25:12 Asmon "if you do a roll, that roll should count", "i feel like a roll should always be the deciding factor if a roll is called", apparently not always...
Roy sounds like he holds his nose while he talks
Why have players /roll if you just loot council it. Just loot council from the beginning wtf, how hard is that
basically if they roll for it and win, there will be no drama about it... if they loot council there's a chance someone will get buttmad about lootfunneling and things like that.
this is basically their way of "winning it fairly" on the first attempt, and then when they lose the roll resort to "nah you know what, we'll council it" which ironically gets people even more salty...
You don't join an Asmongold guild without knowing its going to be toxic and ridiculous. That's the whole point right? It's a 'real' guild.
Damn Asmogold would've been a great lawyer if he had decided to practice law.
Tekashi is the best dude said "well the thing is I want it" asmon "well so does everyone else" " well I have it now so"
that guy that took the onyxia head, will be kicked from my guild immidiately, he is completely detached from reality, and asking for gold for it, is completely insane at that point. destroy him and kick him and ban him from all world chats on faerlina
If you rolled Alliance on Faerlina and then joined NO ONE SHOULD FEEL BAD FOR YOU. Your GM's even have a history of ninja looting.
i love listening to all the justifications people use to keep items when they've stolen them
It's crazy to me lmao, it's so unbelievably shameless. Maybe I've just had decent luck with guilds, or because I'm not joining massive streamer mega guilds, but the idea of a guildie just straight up saying with no irony "Yeah but if I let everyone free roll on the head then I don't get it" is crazy
This is exactly why Blizzard changed how looting works to get rid of "loot consoles", "DKP" & other player created systems that more often then not had a person or group screw over other people.
my god that tank dude.. I'm gonna walk into a store and just start stealing and be like "I know it was wrong, but its the stores fault for letting me grab it soooo its mine now"
I was a MT for a progression guild back when WoW mattered. I would have *NEVER* returned the head. In fact, I would have held it ransom.
It's funny all twitch chat knows Roy, but in BFA if someone does something similar then no one would know lol.
This is literally better than ANY TV SHOW out there right now. Fucking amazing xD
how tf does he play with his inventory always full
Asking myself every time.
i ask this every fuckin time i see his inventory with like 2 free slots
if you get gold handed to you, not really much need to loot trash i guess.
Takashi's logic is hurting my head xD
John Willy Flaten His logic was flawed but I can see why he does it. Royson is a colossal fuck up and shouldn’t be anywhere near the loot council. With his track record everyone is wary of Roy. And I think he was struggling with the fact that Roy gets off scott free and doesn’t lose anything in terms of power in the guild whilst he loses the onixia head he rolled on (despite the roll being unfair due to Roysons fuck up.)
I can hear the rusty gears in this kid's head creaking when he attempts to justify his ninja around 40-45ish.
Yeah asmon is being way too lenient here. This guy obviously just wants his ninja loot. I'd have issued a black list on him as soon as he rolled need.
@@k2k4 Then youd be a terrible guild leader or officer. You have to get all the information before making the decision. I would black list him if he doesnt give up the head, but you need to do your due diligence then
give out to people who already have a piece of the gear set? wtf
Honestly Royson's raid loot style which ACCORDING to them is free roll, council AND round robin.....complicated and shady as fuck. Sorry but it's BS. Royson is abusing the raid to gear himself and his friends.
God i miss guild drama. TBC was the last expansion i raided hardcore
Man being a guild master is hard asf it may seem smooth from the outside looking in but as a guild master its stressful as fuck. Glad i play black desert i play guildless because of the politics that come with it. But long story short he got it now he trying to keep it.
Classic WoW the only version of WoW where you play loot politics, people play it for that reason
thisis ancient by now... but royson seems inept, and what does mcconnel do/bring to the table besides loud noises?
28:18 "i know my place" lulw
She destroyed every train of thought in that discord lmfao
Too be fair when I played in a new raid group. You almost never got gear the first go round. As it was a trial period for you.
I 100% would have kept the head and said kick me then.. because Roy has ninja looted so much and nothing happens to him.
Yup i agree, these clowns let the guild members get out of hand and randomly dish out “justice”. TBF tho, its funny and entertaining for us
I just quit Olympus 8 because Fehras is GM. There is no leadership in the guild.
There are a couple officers that are cool and the people that talk are usually chill but the future of the guild is bleak
Dude...sorry you had to go through this. This is why I play Horde, lololol!! I have raided, and unless the item is for my class, I just pass or greed for DC. But mostly let others have it. I am more interested in getting better. Come to the dark side....we have cookies...
SO many people DO NOT TRUST Royson. Why is he still in this guild? And once again, someone rolled on an item, and won it, and is asked to give it up. I would of left this guild a LONG TIME ago. Officers seem to "distribute" loot when they feel like it. Rolling is the ONLY true FAIR way to distribute loot.
happend all the Time as i was a GM and Accountant of an Progress Raid Guild back in da days 08/09...gosh..so much Drama..
so u guys push someone 30 min to "roll" for a item to give it away without a roll to a damn mage? ARE U GUYS R-WORD
Yeah that shit was cringe. Multiple people rolled on it in the first place, this TANK wins and it's best for this tank to have it. Yet they make him reroll it.. And the shitty mage who also rolled before and lost, now wins and gets the item lmao... Trash way to fix things.
I love listing to shit that doesn't happen in raiding guilds that don't have (guild name) one through ten.
i would have deadass told yall na im keepin it and left Discord ctfu.
Mcconnell some day your face will be changed by my fist irl
Law and Order: WoW Classic
I wouldn’t have traded the helm away. Anything with Roy involved is already fucked. If I’m tank and it’s that strong for me I’m keeping it
Olympus dramas is so good I hope we see The Wall drama in SoD
In the guild I run tanks get priority on loot. Strong tanks make everyone else job easier.
“Rolls should be final” poor grenades pol
Twitch Asmonsperg's I need help: Is all of this a troll/content filler act or is literally all of his guilds this messed up?
i love how calm asmon is
The problem with this is that Royson tells people to roll ,but when his roysboiis don't win he loot counsels it to them. The reason he wants this head even if he doesn't roll on it is that his boiis have a chance on winning something that they otherwise would have had 0 chance on winning. Plus the chance that this takeshi dude loses is a bonus. Roysan is toxic and needs to be removed from power within the guild maybe even transferred to another guild as a punishment till they vouche for him.
Literally the only reason Royson didn't get off scot free is because he was garbage at dueling. It had nothing to do with him doing the right thing.
Dude has a baby and can’t understand a concept of morals. Gotta shame the guy for like 15 mins straight to make him realize he looks bad.
Its quite obvious isnt it? If you let them roll and than give the Item someone else, than someone has to get angry.
When raid leaders fuck up, they are the ones responsible. It is his responsibility to make the loot rolls fair for the raid and the bribes come out of his pocket when he fucks up.
After listening to everyone, I was Maybe thinking about being in your guild, but it sounds very toxic in all of your guilds, so I pass but still watch your videos and make up my mind when the time comes.
i bet you didnt even hit 60
That dude who won the dragon head is so cringy... Like he knows that he's wrong he's just trying to justifiy keeping it.
IM FINE WITH KEEPING THE HELM AND STAYING I NTHE GUILD lol he doesnt realize they are saying we are going to kick you if you ninja this head lol
naw, he was giving the ninja looter a taste of his own medicine, AND he's the main tank. It would have been the right thing to do. Maybe Royson wouldn't ninja so much after being on the non-receiving end.
40:00 to be fair if I got an item I. Roysens team like that after what he did I would keep also 100%
Royson is just not smart enough to be a raid leader, a GM, or any leader.
I’m not in the guild or even really play so maybe I don’t understand the situation well enough. If Roy fucks up the loot how is it fair to make the guy who won it give it away? Especially when it works with his class? Wouldn’t you wanna punish the bad officer who fucked it up in the first place?
Possession is 9/10ths of the law. Whoever is in possession makes the rules. If Royston hadn’t fucked up then this guy wouldn’t be in possession and hold all the cards.
Couldn't tell if that was a baby talking or McConnell
mconnel sounds like seth rogen
Yeah that whole system where you roll but it may not matter? WTF? Clear and defined loot rules must be established and understood.
Man this Royson guy is batting 💯 with the fuck ups as a supposed leader.
cut ties with that guy. sometimes in leadership positions you just got to say "cool man you keep the head and you go and find a group that is going to willingly take a ninja into their guild, cause we are not doing it anymore with you..."
Thats why you arent the leader of a good guild. Your way = losing the head from the guild and losing the main tank. Asmon kept the head in the guild, kept the tank, and made it clear how to proceed forward.
@@t9t9t9t9t9 and that's cool that's his way about going about it.... my way is if your not willing to come to some sort of agreement that is fair after multiple times of presenting solutions and the main reason the issue happened. Cool do your thing, I'm going to do mine and you can be replaced... even if it means a step back to step forward. good luck but it's just not a match in my opinion.
@@t9t9t9t9t9 also you make it seem like asmon is perfect... we are talking about the same guy that got conned into giving up a boe and free helm crafts to a fucking con artist that openly admitted to being a extortionist then also shamed his ass for the same thing buddy did who he gave the piece. So your mans ain't perfect either.
@@cmmcfielful no ones perfect but you seem to think you are lmao.
Why is the sound quality so bad?
Yeah and mostly when Asmon doesn't know what to say or make a proper point he say's "It is what it is"
Ughh... Playing with teenagers. I'm out.
46:45 "Jesus i hate this guy"
They guilt tripped the tank, thats fucked up and asmon saying he has gone through that is bs he gets so much shit anyways
The drama is drawn out, if asmon doesn't kick him, people will consider what taliesin said about him months ago.
If you just overturn every bad move by Royson wtf is the point to having ranks? Anyone can do his job if you have to come in and fix it all the time...
Olympus 5 doesnt have this drama...
Lol, this is why people want to play solo and not be in chat.
really? i think its quite entretaining
remember when upper BlackRock was hard even as a 15 man raid emmffff
Royson seems to be a problem imo.
25:30 RIP Grenades Perdition's blade
Honestly this is a common thread with Olympus, people Need, people ninja, and depending who is doing the ninja or who is affected your leadership approve or disapprove so the whole subject of ninja is skewed. However, with the Royson issue here in Onyxia, this is 2 times in 2 days where Royson is responsible for either 1 being unfair to other players including his guild mates or 2 making this huge cluster with raid loot. The tank Needing on it, in my opinion, is justified so long as he is willing to distribute it in the same manner as whoever the ML was, not to mention he needed because he saw someone else need and was just preventing himself from getting boned by a ninja who COULD have taken it and left. This tank was PUT in this position tho due to the carelessness again of someone who has a bad track record with Loot. I would say the solution is to give the responsibility of loot to someone else b/c everyone is always going to cause a problem when he screws up from now on. He is clearly not trustworthy to make decisions for a large group when he isn't responsible or fair when he's in a small group. Separate note tho, how is it fair to judge anyone for ninja when Asmon does the EXACT same thing for himself whenever he wants something. I mean come on now its so hypocritical. Asmon of all people should not be talking down to anyone who ninja anything in any capacity b/c he does it so openly and blatantly whenever he wants something as well and he also has a huge fanclub giving him stuff for free too besides. So, when you guys get on anyone for doing it when you so openly promote it by doing it yourself its kind of screwed up isn't it.
Dude sounded like he was going to cry his ass off trying to make excuses for ninja looting...
Daddy, why were you a ninja in that ancient game?
25:32 asmon is such a liar at this point in time. Cuz a Rogue won a dagger in Molten Core and didn't even get the item, there was drama and everything. LOL like wtf? I just caught this 4 years later.
makes a big deal out of something simple for 30 min "I don't care about it"
This is the saddest thing for humanity I have ever witnessed.