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@@aitan1490 lv 20 profane soul since u suffer from mara, undying patron, since u know, stats spread is con and dex focused, fallen aasimar cuz u like to take dmg to do dmg, rest is ur choice
I’ve hyper invested into his relics and supports and even then he struggles for 4 or even 5 cycles. It’s so disappointing seeing a character you love be useless
Truee mine uses yunli light cone the best artefacts in set possible without spd cz i use him with sparkle with her signature ligthcone ruan mei and huohuo AND MY QUINQUE DOES MORE DAMAGE AND I BUILDED HER LAST WEEK
for anyone wondering I’m using a unlimited blade works build. With buffs he can reach up to 100/350 with over 150%dmg boost and over 9k hp and signature lc
I mean… people still use Clara despite Yunli being out. If a character that would benefit “like-Blade-but-better” archetype releases, than it would still benefit Blade and make him possibly a lot more viable. He still wouldn’t be the “best in slot” DPS for that support, but that’s something-
@@nevermind9835 true... like even though Yunli is Clara pro max, both of them can use the exact same build and teammates, so if the devs release another character like Blade he'll probably get supports who benefit him because of that said character
The issue isn't in Blade, the issue in the game only offering one type of challenge that overemphasizes dps in short term bursts. Introduce a mode which only two characters or anything else that requires you not only to kill things fast, but also survive and Blade will soar in usage, like Himeko and Herta did when Pure Fiction got introduced.
Adding a mode where you can only use 2 units is a horrible idea, literally 0 teams except blade can function like that, and it completely disregards most of the units in the game (preservation, abundance, most harmony, most nihility) a game where they NEED you to pull more characters and as such offer diverse content to try and get you to pull more. In terms of a mode where you need to survive, how would that make blade shine? None of the current meta moc teams have any issues sustaining, even those using gallagher who's literally a 4 star sustain. Not to mention blade usually reaches lower hp than most characters in other meta teams, so not really he doesn't have better sustain than other dps in a setting where 3 other teammates exist
@@akshayreddy4071 just adding a game where the goal to survive is enough. Need sustainers but also need dps to deal damage other wise the eneimes will infinitly scale up in stats and out dps even a full team of sustainers.
@uyeah1234 blade literally doesn't even offer self-sustaining, though, he's even more squishy than normal dps after using his ult and going down to half (at e0s0 at least), and to boot he does less damage than every other limited dps in the game unless it's wind weak content. In a game mode where you needed to sustain more, why not just slot aventurine into a team, or the upcoming lingsha for break comps?
Blade will always be one of my favorite dps’s because he is the tried and true destruction character even being the only character who resembles an aeon
I don't know. I think he's more like a mixed of destruction and self-destruction (which is nihility). He always attempt to any fight that have a possibly chance to murder himself, but it's never happened so far because of his immortality
@@RoKu.1147 I felt like destruction was meant to be the class that could tank and deal dmg or sacrifice something to gain something but now it’s just become the straight murder class
the thing is he scales so much with hp that youre forced to pretty much build him hp and nothing else. build attack or crit and you become too squishy and die easily because you have high health costs when using attacks
its just his scalling modifier kinda low and 5 stacking with that speed is ehhhh. even irun him with Double Harmony its still Strugle to fast clear dying is not really a problem for him especially with Hp boots, Hp sphere and Sig LC. Black Swan Kafka its just better in terms of Raw power.
I remember getting Blade when he first released as a F2P player and I don't regret pulling him whatsoever, He was the first ever limited 5 star character that I pulled for and he was my main dps (his F2P lightcone is A Secret Vow) until I built Acheron, I still do use him quite a lot since both him and Bronya (one of the first 5 star character that I got from the standard banner) carried me throughout most of the game until I got other characters like Acheron, Aventurine, Robin, Boothill and some others.
I got Blade on his rerun as I started on 1.4 and suddenly I was able to clear a lot more content at that time than I had been doing prior. So he was a great investment at the time for me. Even though he has fallen off since, he still retains this really strong cool and fun factor that few other characters have (even if they are much stronger). The hits feel solid and his animations always feel impactful. Simulated/Divergent Universes are always a great place to bring him out since they can make any character feel overpowered. So I’ll make a team with him there just to have some fun and enjoy playing with him.
I still use him for basically everything. Basic attack buff? Check. Dot? Check. AOE? Check. FUA? Check. Ult att buff? Check. The only thing I don't use him for is to apply debuffs for acheron and content with skill att buffs (which i throw Jingliu in, then, more or less, check). Still really fun and i use him all the time hehe
I wouldn't call him failed but right now he's holding onto Jade's whip as his last hope (I say this as a blade lover) I hope someday he indirectly gets more buffs
Frankly Jade outside of pure fiction is doing no better than blade, despite the seemingly high synergy between the two of them, jade changed extremely little about blade's state in the meta. She's not even good for him outside of pf, you would still prefer hypercarry blade over jade blade for moc or apoc
Blade and Jade doesn’t beat out hyper carry blade with 2 supports in MoC… so his meta didn’t change at all there… he still sucks unless you’re playing the 2 in PF but that’s essentially Jade doing all the heavy lifting… Jade is made for PF, Blade doesn’t even have a game mode he excels in It really brings into question: Is it really the dps doing the damage or the side characters that make him look good? Because they aren’t even doing that, the best supports can’t do anything for him… and even if they release a hp scaling buffer, then a new better dps would release that overshadows Blade… indirect buffs won’t really help him because of his inherently low damage so the new support would have to be busted anyways
Nah he just needs a harmony/abundance that buffs ally hp exponentially and that'll do the trick in my opinion. Imagine and Abunsance that taunts ans buffs an ally's hp + some random buffs (if Huo Huo can others can too)
I love Blade but man he desperately needs Furina. Could also help make Luocha more relevant again, but at least he can still be placed into many teams, meta or non meta. Also, judging by Sparkle's old leaked kit, I think she was supposed to be Blade's dedicated support due to the fact it said she was able to boost HP with her skill, but something happened and she was forced to just be Bronya on crack. Edit: I'm honestly afraid that if we get more HP scaling DPS units who also consume HP they would have better scaling than him and he'll probably most likely be doomed forever at that point. At least Luocha would probably finally find his place in newer teams (saying this as a Luocha lover myself who has him and uses him). Honestly imo sustain powercreep isn't as bad as DPS powercreep because at least a lot of sustains can still be used in many different kinds of teams even if they get powercrept or not. (Unless you main someone like Arlan or Yanqing who prefer shielders over healers)
There's no way they don't do a Furina for this game once Lingsha is out. Luocha, Lingsha, and even a well-built UOH- I mean HuoHuo will overheal, so it'd be nice to see it put to good use! I think the main reason an HP buffing Harmony hasn't shown up yet is because in combination with an actual sustain who scales on HP it'd quickly get ridiculous, so the idea of turning HP-scaling overheal into some kind of dmg% or pen% would be the best way to keep our emo boy thriving instead of just alive...
@@jellifygirl I remember seeing leaks about two HP scaling Destruction characters (One Quantum one Imaginary) with similar kits as Blade. The team used in beta testing was them + Lingsha + Luocha and I don't think their HP consumption is that high to the point they have to run two sustains who already overheal like crazy by themselves (it's probably some devs messing around with what they have) but I think this means that Lingsha and Luocha will be their best sustain options! A HSR Furina would really be great for them. Hell, I think even a well built Bailu can benefit from a character similar to Furina.
Ngl for me he is the most fun character in the game. Despite being old, his animations and visuals match pretty well with newest characters. Speaking for myself, I can clear anything so... Sometimes it just nice to play with the ones you like, even if he not 0 cycle like acheron/Firefly, you can still have fun and clear stuff with it.
Other than blade, him and JL probably are the ones having difficulty since none of em have like actual supports for em (dhil has sparkle, ruan mei is literally for break teams, kafka has bs) Waiting for a support for these two separately, they are so fun :,
@@reshmin1760 any harmony units can be used for any comps, but ruan mei is made for break archetypes. Sparkle for sp hungry comps, robin for follow up comps, and ruan for break comps. All are units are universal, but ruan is for break teams. Like harmony mc excels in break teams. Pick JL and Firefly, their support would be ruan mei but 9/10 mostly used with firefly so she can dish out her max damage. While JL will be left with just bronya (even then her dmg increase wouldnt be enough for today's meta) and it won't be simply her max.
Tell me, seriously what purpose does an HP scaling support do at all to help blade. He scales off HP but does nothing with others. Having HP scaling supports won't do shit to help unless it's giving him more HP with at that point CD would probably be better and even then an abundance character would be more likely to give health increases instead of a support
One of the biggest values I think of Blade having is his ability to self heal, which if he is able to taunt enemies in some way, he becomes a Pseudo Sustain so you can run 3 supports, leaving him to take the damage and heal back Considering he still has yet to get a 5 Star support, dedicated Planar, I believe he has potential for the future (since he's a Stellaron Hunter and all)
No, Fu xuan also scales off of Hp, though she is preservation. In terms of dps however... For now yes, blade is the only one for now, but indicators for future characters are there
Ho scaling harmonies will not help unless their giving blade more HP with fu xuan already does, even then a sustain is more likely to give out health buffs than some harmony. his scaling is already low he just wants a decent CR with CD buffs. It sucks that he's slow for the most part but a harmony can't really help that much unless it's action advance
I think there is still potential with his FuA. If there was another support, maybe an abundance, that can do exactly what Furina does in genshin (drain HP, increase dmg based on draining HP, then heals back the HP) then he could be brought back into relevancy somewhat because imagine Blade being able to get THREE stacks per basic attack. Add overcapping, and youll have a monstrous unkillable dps thats gonna send every sad mf to the vale every turn
Hes still fucking hot and i just managed to get his crit ratio to something decent so.. But seriously, my mans needs furina. Honestly, i wanna brainstorm like a character who's kit would work with his hp scaling mechanics that would actually impress the dev team to add into the game bc i feel like a character that buffs based on how high/low a character's hp is could work with a lot of characters not just Blade. Maybe they could buff atk/break effect when a character is above 50% hp or crit DMG and dmg resist when below 50% hp so that it would work today's meta. And with adjusted scaling, they could enhance the effects with elemental burst. This could be good for Luocha, since with his talent up, allied units attacking and enemies constantly attacking, allied character's hp fluctuates around the 50% mark. Although I'm no game developer/character designer so oh well🤷♀️
TRUE i as a f2p have a Godlike premium team for him huohuo in penacony set sparkle with signature lc and pv boots in blade, ruan mei/robin and now yunli lc Godlike signature relic set and a 77% 188% crit ratio and with sparkle buffs 328% crit damage AND STILL FALLS IN DAMAGE my boy deserves better 😭
Even wanderer kit does better when he has no damage amplifier reaction to proc alone and he have faruzan as his dedicaded suport bladie my boy needs his own faruzan too
@@Daiikoon I have yunli LC and a ratio of 71 to 140 and like yeah he's underwhelming. The highest he's gotten was 80k for me with bronya buffs and pela burst. I just don't understand why they haven't released a support based on hp% bc they released hanya with argenti, a character that arguably uses a ton of SP, and Gallagher, the best healer and f2p break support in game (aside from Harmony TB) so far when break effect was starting to see its full potential with the upcoming characters. There are leaks (don't trust me on this I don't know) apparently detailing 2 future characters scaling on hp so there could be a chance of a dedicated support on their banner but then again, it could just be false rumors
He needs an entire team dedicated to his existence. His scalings and speed are simply too low be a main DPS, but his follow-up attack has good potential to be abused as it's the most unique part of him. It offers full AoE, self-healing, and triggers on any HP loss. Sustain character that distributes damage across the team so Blade always gets stacks from enemy attacks (maybe convert it to a DoT), and has the SU dewdrop mechanic for providing damage based on healing/max HP. Harmony character with max HP buffs, HP drain, and action advance/speed, along with normal buffs (crit/def/res pen/etc). And a new DPS character that's a single-target version of Jade with strong HP scaling and can form a symbiotic relationship with Blade and carry most of the damage. As Blade offers no actual team buffs as a sub-DPS compared to somebody like Topaz, the team will need to scale off his frequent HP fluctuations and follow-ups. This can either be the dewdrop mechanic or something new like superbreak but deals with HP and HP loss/gain.
I feel like they had a lot of Ideas they wanted to try and just dumped them into Blade's kit, Hp scaling and manipulation, sp positive sub dps, and the fact they released Lynx just after him also suggest they were going for tank/berserker vibe, but the thing about this game is that any DPS kit needs to have a well aligned support, Blade's kit didn't and still continue to have no support, all he needs is a support that takes advantage of him losing hp to buff or something, like Jade but instead of the additional dmg, give stacks of a buff each time hp changes
Just straight up buffing is unlikely, but I could see HSR implementing an augment system someday in the far future. If they ever do that type of thing, I hope Blade is one of the first. Love his character (all the Stellaron Hunters, really), plus Daman Mills really rocks that role.
i predict that if they do decide to make another hp scaling 5* dps, they'll release a 4* character that can support them with the 5* or before. They already did this for break with Gallagher and Harmony Trailblazer, and with Feixiao coming we have Hunt March and Moze for follow up teams. Blade just had the misfortune of being released during the hypercarry meta
Man this was suprisingly nostalgic, i started playing around the 1.2 patch, i feel nostalgic just thinking about it(unrelated but blade does have a f2p light cone in "secret vow")
I'm getting fun results with a team of Fu, Blade, Sparkle/ Bronya (E2), and Jade in MoC/ PF/ DU 6. He syncs very well with Jade, almost doubling the frequency of his FU sweep. Without Jade though, even with 2 supports, he isn't as fun (and good) as with Jade + 1 support (or 2 for PF). Still love him! and use him quite often for my auto DU/ farming team for weekly
Blade's the first limited character I pulled for since I started in late 1.1 (near the end of SW's banner). It was painful to use him at first as he kept dying and I didn't have any lightcones that were good for him. I had benched him in favour of Yanqing as he was my main DPS at the time. I only started building Blade when I got Fu Xuan and Yanqing doesn't work well with a sustainer that doesn't have a shield. So to avoid Fu Xuan going to waste, I went ahead and built Blade. I used the 3-star LC that gives him Crit rate. Later, I eventually got "A Secret Vow" and decided to go all out in building him. I eventually got his Signature LC during his rerun. He's well built now he's helped me clear most of the content. Nowadays I rarely use him since I got Jingliu and eventually Firefly. Given how slow he is, and how most of my characters are fast (at least 134 SPD) I just decided to use the faster characters more. However, when I do use him, I would pair him with Jingliu or Hunt March 7th.
I remember getting blade when new to gacha, somehow managed to get blade and luocha and I ran that team for ages. But I found myself complaining about blade so often because he truly just was not a power house like the other limited 5 star destruction units that would follow him. I love his design so while a part of me wished I’d gotten someone like jingliu or even fuxuan for a mono quantum team, I still loved blade. I use him in my secondary team in MoC to this day but only because I lack a better dps. I will be using him for a long time too since I am pulling Lingsha for my ff team. But without a doubt, blade will be replaced by the next destruction unit that arrives for me unless a better support for him comes around. He’s too slow, does too little damage compared to others and the rest doesn’t need to be said. It was fun while it lasted but he has long overstayed his welcome.
Have hope , sunday is rumured to be a support and not to mention , according to leaks we will have more supports in 3.x patches so we will get furina in hsr 4 sure.
@@soulfulhuman8724 not really most of the leaks indicate a wave of destruction erudution and nihility with no harmony or preservation, but these are still just leak so take them with grain of salt
Blade having to rely on the Generic Inert Salsotto and having no dedicated HP Ornaments is mean, but then having no actual Supports or 5S Version of Lynx and being second fiddle to Jade/Jingliu setups is cruel. Man is just begging to be put out of his misery. Also, no, his Signature is stronger because of the DMG Boost when he loses HP and the Base HP. The Taunt Value isn't that big of a deal, is just nice to have on Berserker Characters. Having high crit on him is better than being attacked "sometimes more", since he is so slow. Every hit he does has to count.
Blade is definitely one of the coolest characters in the game including playstyle. Hopefully they will buf him somehow so can return to front lines. I had a blast when playing blade + jingliu.
TBF the HP draining side of destruction is really underutilized outside of simulated universe. Only problem is if there's a buffer that boost HP manipulation characters, similar characters will just powercreep blade directly. That being said, since blade's FUA is tied to the instances of HP drain, he should in theory get the most benefit out of a buffer that drains HP & provides stat boost based on drain HP.
I absolutely love Blade, i have him e2s1, with plans for the full e6 in the future... and i dont even use him. Ive hyperinvested relics and maxed his talents, ive also pulled an e0s1 Sparkle, and somehow have an e4 Bronya. Hes just... still not worth it man. His whole shtick is that he trades damage for less sp consumption and survivability yet its just never worth it. People keep saying a HP scaling support will help him, but i think its a bit too late at this point. His scalings are also kind of just terrible.
Blades problem is that kafka, seele and jing yuan (other 5 stars at the time ) got characters that buff them. Jing yuan got fua team, kafka got dot team, seele got mono quantum team. Blade didn't get anything.
It sort of feels like the devs didn't really know what to do with his kit. At first glance you'd think he'd be a bruiser/berserker style character, one who sacrifices health and survivability for damage, similar to Arlan. Instead he's the exact opposite, sacrificing damage for lower SP consumption and ease of use. And despite being "immortal" in lore, his actual self healing generally isn't enough to offset his own self damage, which could have opened a path for a third support in his team. Right now tho, a healer is still quite mandatory in order to keep him alive (Edit: and even maximize his own damage lol)
I just feel really sad that he's starting to get outclassed, which is inevitable. I haven't been using him as much as I used to, I've invested in him a lot in support, lightcones, relics and etcetera. Just hope there's some sort of buff hoyo can give him......
I have Blade E0since his release with his LC (that I got it in his rerun, was using a bad lc for him before) and I still use him in Apocaliptic Shadow, PF and for farming mats(in MoC sometimes too but it has become a bit difficult with the MoC buffs and weakness not making it easy) , he is really fun to use with Jingliu or even in a FuA team, he's not an Acheron or a Firefly, but I really like his character and his kit (and in pf he is really good) and his dmg isn't that bad. I believe the devs are going to make more characters and relics that can buff Blade and characters like him that might come out in the future (like how they did with Jing Yuan and those little buff with Topaz, FuA relic sets and etc)
I think people who think an hp buffer/support is the only thing that can help blade and that theres no future for him are thinking a little too small here, blade (and jingliu) have a specific niche that hasn't really been capitalized outside of certain divergent universe buffs/equations: HP loss Specifically, they (and Jade) are ones that can enable hp loss on themselves or other party members on demand. Add in any unit that can build up charges (for example) from team HP loss and buffs or attacks based off it, and blade will have a niche unique to himself (+Jingliu/Jade who further enables this)
I have to admit Blade's situation makes me feel bad for him, close enough to how tragic I found his story and as someone who dedicated a whole year of maining him though he normally does 300K with his Ultimate at E0 without his Signature (I use the S5 Arlan LC and I'm saving for his LC on his next rerun as I refuse to spend it on Yunli's signature) and I do feel at times if I invested as much as I did towards him towards someone else I'd feel more rewarded and that the only way he'll see as much of a spot as much of a spot that the other HCQ Members got to see is if he even got a single support that would be like the Faruzan to Scaramouche but the only way Hoyo would feel bothered to do so if Hoyo releases more HP-Scaling units and knowing them they enjoy powercreeping characters and I feel Blade won't be given such a Favor that they'd let him avoid such a case so he's basically pushed towards a wall in the Meta which bothers me more since there's Jing Yuan who by default is the worst Limited 5* by his kit alone but they always managed to buff him so many times in each patch indirectly and makes me feel I might abandon him in the future even though he's a fan favorite beloved by others like me..
This vid might not age well since HP scaling center unit is coming soon. I'd say only make a vid once a character has truly been outclassed within their niche or achetype.
Even if the hp scaling meta is true… that just means another dps that scales off hp is going to do it better… it doesn’t even matter how much better because Blade is arguably the worst limited 5* that honestly doesn’t even have a niche besides using hp His niche of being a dps that can self sustain is useless in this game because every character is on field so a sustainer is still necessary… but ok, we can argue that his self sustain is enough for a team without a sustain… that would be good since he’s the character with the highest likelihood to survive one of those teams with such a kit, however the point of those teams it to maximise damage and clear in so little cycles that healthy doesn’t matter… and guess what, Blade has the lowest damage numbers out of all the limited 5* dps that supports can’t really save But as you said there may be a hp support character that would help his case… but to even advertise such a character a new and better shiny dps that does more damage will have to release making Blade essentially useless unless he gets a new form… but that may change the entirety of his kit with a new form still making the Blade we know today completely useless He’s a character that has an inherently useless niche for such a game anyways… it doesn’t really matter what case you make for Blade… I think he would be better as a 4* because then at least he wouldn’t take so many jades to get, even other 4* characters do more damage like Xueyi but it doesn’t make sense in lore for him to be a 4*
There will be no HP scaling meta. The 3.0 meta will be position based, the rumored 3.x characters are HP and Speed Scaling and both of them are played together.
@thederp9309 bro what? his main gimmick isn't to take his own hp. Its to scale with the amount of hp he has. We have such low how numbers in this game compared to genshin, so ofc he isnt gonna be strong rn.
Blade is my fav character and he's the one pulled me into the game when he was still in cbt. Like, man, he looks so cool and etc. Then, I learn about his lore and backstory, it makes me want to main him more and want him to show up in future story. Unfortunately, it's sad that he falls off eventually after many patches :')
tbh i think blade was meant to be a sub dps bc when you compare his best synergies to other damage dealers at the time of his release he's one of the only ones who works best with another damage dealer like topaz neither are great as a hypercarry but the moment you put blade with jingliu or jade and topaz with any fua character really but ratio especially suddenly they're really good although you do want teams full of limited 5* to make it happen but blade was released at a time where everyone was just hypercarrying everyone and their mother bc there was no options until we got kafka but even then kafka needed to wait for her best teammates to really shine (i know bc i skipped blade for her in 1.2 even tho i wanted and still want him) so he suffered the fate of being hypercarried when he wasn't meant for it ofc you can still hypercarry his best teammates or for jade use himeko/herta but blade really works best as a sub dps to anyone who can drain his hp i def think we need more ppl to realize this so everyone with a blade that can't clear content can use him to his fullest potential and see he's not bad just misused just like topaz was before ratio's release
With the amount of hp this man has, his talant healing him after getting hit 5 times and his ult doing more dmg by talying the hp lost, it made sense to treat him like a sub dps/tank/bruiser. But thx to hoyo obsestion for dps checks, people cant look at Blade any other way. I noticed this with Clara too. Yunli is far better at dpsing than Clara, but clara still has 35% dmg reduction for 2 turns. Even if Yunli can self heal, this cost a skill point while you have to wait for her turn, if she is also as slow as Clara then oef. Yunli also has 20% dmg reduction while her ult is active... so for 1 or 2 attacks. But because dps is king: Yunli wins, Clara and Blade lose.
Tbh I don't think he was ever even meant to be played as a hypercarry DPS. We were just forced to hypercarry him because we didn't have a lot of content back then. I can somewhat see him getting the Topaz treatment if HYV ever decides to push a HP fluctuation meta but only time will tell. Hell, literally back then a bunch of people recommended running him with another DPS + Pela/Silver Wolf and a healer if you had him but not Bronya. It's no wonder why Jingliu is ironically his best teammate despite being a DPS unit rather than a support or sustain.
They made Destruction do everything with no risk, all reward. So the two units based on that, Arlan and Blade, are left in the dust for thier fans. At least Blade gets a new LC
FF would lose 90% of her damage without HMC, IF YOU DON'T USE FF ULT. Dude this is just straight up misinformation. HMC is good with FF not because of HMC gives 90% damage to FF, it's because there is no other proper superbreak support and with HMC, all other teammates can do superbreak. FF herself doesn't even lose 10%. Stop coping.
90% is a lot, although hmc can universally give superbreak to anyone and double result to Firefly, and no, this result also very depending how much toughness reduction your dps.
Blade used to carry me on MoC and I even pulled his LC on his rerun because he deserved it, but right now, I only use him when I farm materials lol. Hopefully in the future patches, we get another HP scaling DPS or HP buffer in order for Blade to shine again.
As a Main blade user. Problem with Blade is that the type of endgame is Speed cycle based and two Destruction units way too fast to let him shine. Basically, Enemy design and Cycle endgame design ruined blade.
comments: "but blade can self heal" "but blade can survive longer alone". FF can also heal a lot. Way more than Blade. FF can full heal but blade, let's be realistic, won't survive alone. He usually stuck at 1 hp (in long fight if not dead) and heal 20% just to go back to 1% next turn. Powercrept is real, stop coping.
From most Gacha game I've experienced so far , I feel like they've make some trend pretty common or setting a trends that I have notice , never pull for a male character , unless they're support character , there will always be a female one that's better than him coming not so long after .
What about DHIL being the strongest 1.0 character in the game that is better than Jingliu and is stronger than her with eidolon investment. Additionally Jingliu came after DHIL. Nah it's more like pull for the hoyo favorite wne you'll be rewarded since they'll buff them to the moon and leave anyone else they don't care about to starve
1- DHIL came out during 1.3 version - Seele was the Best dps at 1.0 being the first Limited 5* 2- Jingliu at release was stronger than DHIL the only time DHIL is stronger is at E2 scenario, but at E0 Jingliu is better
@@HazZzel- Why don’t they thrive in HSR too? Every male character so far has been great on release especially characters like aventurine who has a whole trailblaze quest dedicated to him + he’s the best overall sustain in the game.
Blade+Jing used to be my strongest duo when they came out, their current situation is heartbreaking, they were really fun to play, but now no matter what I do, they can hardly clear stuff
If they'll add similar Furina buffer in Star Rail he'll be better. He already has best healer in his team, Luocha, and Bronya so Furina/similar character is what he needs. Having her will buff not only him, hp scaling units, self health losing units but also healers.
the problem with blade from my pov is that he's not really a hypercarry, but more of a sub-dps, and the only one that can truly synergize well alongside him is jingliu (and technically jade but not to the same extent), apart from them blade didnt receive any major exclusive supports nor main dps, therefore lowering his value till this day
unfortunately as an f2p player, I’ve struggled a lot in building him because his teams are ultimately just very expensive-I didn’t have enough funds for ruan mei or sparkle so I couldn’t reach pity there, I lost 50/50 on luocha, and silver wolf is barely seeing use now :[ it’s a shame because I love the stellaron hunters, they’re all my favorite characters! but it’s sad to see how unless I dump heaps of money into this game, he’ll just never be able to clear anything
I wouldn't really call Blade a "failed" character when he was a strong DPS during 1.2 - 2.0. He fulfilled his role for that time, considering Hoyoverse never really gave him dedicated supports. He will most likely become relevant in the meta again once they decide to release more HP scaling/abundance units that work offensively. Also, they really need to release harder endgame modes that cater towards survivability, rather than how fast you can clear stages..
I've seen Blade's future since 1.0 and people bashed me thinking i'm coping before his release and calling me a Seele simp lmao. Look who's laughing now😅
As a F2P player who started in 1.5, Blade is by far my worst investment. He hardly keeps up with today's meta, and what's frustrating is that all Hoyo has to do is copy Furina's kit from Genshin. Instead, Blade is forced to use supports that do wonders more on other teams.
REAL i started in hsr for blade in his first banner then leave when i ran out of time at 74 pity and didnt get him then i came back in huo huo banner and leave again came back in his rerun and still playing then pulled sparkle for him so i can use pv boots get sparkle lc and now ruan mei and finally yunli lc as a f2p
@@Sharkfang3 my e6 xueyi crit/break build its performing better in the moc but i still enjoy playing blade its just that its so sad that he ist that powercrept
i still love this character. imagine they would kinda rework him as a whole like little buffs or idk something. his e6 should be in his base or something or hell even his e1
Sometimes I wish he got a stack for his followup attack every time his HP went up *or* down... imagine the amount of followup attacks he'd be unleashing when paired with Jingliu and Luocha 😂
When I started running a Destruction only account, Blade is the best unit ever when there's no healer around (since there's no destruction healer at all by the time I started the account) and Blade is always carrying my ass on every boss fights ever, and Imbibitor Lunae really falls off due to how glass shattering his defense is...
Pretty sure the situation with Yunli's LC in comparison to his Signature LC is that the only thing it actually improves upon with Blade is the follow up (~9%), but is a decrease in overall performance (20%-30%) for everything else because of the significant drop in HP compared to his signature.
I've always paired my Blade with my Jingliu with Ruan Mei as the buffer and Huohuo as the sustain and energy battery (Blade needs to lose HP so I never run Preservation units with him) This doesn't give him as much damage as a hypercarry, but it takes more advantage of his talent. Even if he's not the best DPS anymore, he's still been a reliable one that is there when you need him.
Huohuo is probably better for healing, but what about Lynx? Aggro buff could probably help with keeping st and blast dmg on blade while building up stack faster.
Blade is rather odd for me. I got him in 40 pulls during his rerun as a last effort to try and beat Swarm Disaster back in the day with all different paths and he delivered especially with a sub par e0s0 build and was forgotten for a dew months. Then just a couple days ago i saw someone clear AS 2nd half with break team ft Blade and well, 3500 points easily. Suddenly he had yet another niche for me. I dont think he will ever be a prime dps on my account like how it ended up with JingYuan especially since I will try to get Feixiao but i also have a gut feeling that Blade will always have a niche for me at random times, so passively building him might just be worthwhile.
I know Blade is not optimal anymore but i have always wanted him ever since i saw adds about the game. So i might still pull anyway. I really love his character. I have Acheron i got lucky when i started the game Blade will be a for fun pull if i end up getting him
I pulled for Jade to amplify Blade if I will want to, I have Bronya to amplify Blade, I pulled Jingliu to amplify Blade. I'm saving for E6. (300 in) I expect that it won't be as busted as Acheron's. But character is too cool
I can still use it, I use it with sparkle and bronya to get stacks as fast as possible and put him in the middle cuz most bosses hit 3 targets or full aoe it will not be the fastest but I can leave it on auto without worring at all
I'm ngl he is geniunely very fun to play. I just wish he was better. I'm genuinely considering building him break because he just...does no damage. And I love using Blade because it means I can use Loucha, who is also somewhat benched I'm looking foward to running him with pela and Jiaoqiu. I heard they pretty much 100% shred the def of the enemies when put together. Hopefully Blade will do better since he likes to have debuffers
I like Blade but you have to have him as a sub DPS. Pairing him with Jingliu or a heavy SP damage character improves your overall damage. He has a very strong follow up attack and he can sometimes be your tank too.
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Blade : i will dispatch you in 8 cycles
"Savour it for me-"
@@magiveem "tailor made supports might be unreachable for me..."
300k may be unreachable for me
My e1 S1 blade with months of relics invested into him struggles to to clear content and its so heartbreaking cuz hes my favourite character
aww I am so sorry. I use him with Jade
whats your team
@@SNOWYYELLSATYOUsame, I use him for farming with jade, ruan mei and luocha
At least he’s good in sim universe since he synergizes extremely well with all the paths except preservation and remembrance
Ikr he's so
The most enjoyment I've had thanks to Blade was stealing his kit for a DnD character
Me too
Made a blood hunter based on blade
@@tencive5749 @SamueL-td7fb
what were your builds if you don’t mind me asking? Was toying around with a similar idea lol
@@aitan1490 lv 20 profane soul since u suffer from mara, undying patron, since u know, stats spread is con and dex focused, fallen aasimar cuz u like to take dmg to do dmg, rest is ur choice
What is dnd if you don't mind me asking? I'm interested but I can't put my finger on it
@@inkcenteDungeons and Dragons :)
"That 0-cycle maybe unreachable for me."
*Gives car keys to Firefly*
"Savor it in my place!"
But blade was the driver in that one scene... Can firefly even drive?
@@SrtaElaineWhy drive when you can fly?
@@TerraTheWise to have the human experience she desires so much
You did well, Mr. 8 cycles. I won't forget you for as long as I live. /s
My 7 cycle king shall rest peacefully till his op support comes(cope)
I’ve hyper invested into his relics and supports and even then he struggles for 4 or even 5 cycles. It’s so disappointing seeing a character you love be useless
Truee mine uses yunli light cone the best artefacts in set possible without spd cz i use him with sparkle with her signature ligthcone ruan mei and huohuo AND MY QUINQUE DOES MORE DAMAGE AND I BUILDED HER LAST WEEK
At least spending like a year worth of resin in the relics have me godlike spd pieces for my harmony units
for anyone wondering I’m using a unlimited blade works build. With buffs he can reach up to 100/350 with over 150%dmg boost and over 9k hp and signature lc
@@Daiikoonwhat qq team are you using
@@elijahjarobi literally the same as my blade ruan mei/robin, adventurine/huo huo and sparkle
O-Oh that's gore of my friend's favourite 5 star character on my timeline...
😭😭😭
I can relate to them....
plot twist: they're the one who boosted it 😌
"Blade will get a dedicated support one day"
They would a release a character with Blade's kit but better before that happens
Unfortunately😢
Just like Yunli is to Clara
And they have self implant, that would be another powercreep moment.
I mean… people still use Clara despite Yunli being out. If a character that would benefit “like-Blade-but-better” archetype releases, than it would still benefit Blade and make him possibly a lot more viable. He still wouldn’t be the “best in slot” DPS for that support, but that’s something-
@@nevermind9835 true... like even though Yunli is Clara pro max, both of them can use the exact same build and teammates, so if the devs release another character like Blade he'll probably get supports who benefit him because of that said character
The issue isn't in Blade, the issue in the game only offering one type of challenge that overemphasizes dps in short term bursts. Introduce a mode which only two characters or anything else that requires you not only to kill things fast, but also survive and Blade will soar in usage, like Himeko and Herta did when Pure Fiction got introduced.
Adding a mode where you can only use 2 units is a horrible idea, literally 0 teams except blade can function like that, and it completely disregards most of the units in the game (preservation, abundance, most harmony, most nihility) a game where they NEED you to pull more characters and as such offer diverse content to try and get you to pull more. In terms of a mode where you need to survive, how would that make blade shine? None of the current meta moc teams have any issues sustaining, even those using gallagher who's literally a 4 star sustain. Not to mention blade usually reaches lower hp than most characters in other meta teams, so not really he doesn't have better sustain than other dps in a setting where 3 other teammates exist
My boy blade is doomed and nothing can help it.
Atleast Blade mains we have each others back ..
@@akshayreddy4071 just adding a game where the goal to survive is enough. Need sustainers but also need dps to deal damage other wise the eneimes will infinitly scale up in stats and out dps even a full team of sustainers.
@uyeah1234 blade literally doesn't even offer self-sustaining, though, he's even more squishy than normal dps after using his ult and going down to half (at e0s0 at least), and to boot he does less damage than every other limited dps in the game unless it's wind weak content. In a game mode where you needed to sustain more, why not just slot aventurine into a team, or the upcoming lingsha for break comps?
Blade will always be one of my favorite dps’s because he is the tried and true destruction character even being the only character who resembles an aeon
I'm seeing him as my sub-dps on Jingliu's team. Whenever there are enemies that yet being killed by JL, he will finish the rests
@@williamsl655 yeah i use that team too
I don't know. I think he's more like a mixed of destruction and self-destruction (which is nihility). He always attempt to any fight that have a possibly chance to murder himself, but it's never happened so far because of his immortality
@@RoKu.1147 I felt like destruction was meant to be the class that could tank and deal dmg or sacrifice something to gain something but now it’s just become the straight murder class
@@Ui_Raizenyeah, the bruiser path as I like to call it. Yunli, Clara, Blade, etc
We have to wait for Hoyo to add more HP scalling units and then he will start to shine
his scalings are just really low tbh, if they add more hp scaling units he’d probably just get powercrept
@@frraiden low ass SPD with low ass scaling. Even if he gets dedicated limited *5 supports I don't think that's gonna make him clear 3-4 cycle faster
the thing is he scales so much with hp that youre forced to pretty much build him hp and nothing else. build attack or crit and you become too squishy and die easily because you have high health costs when using attacks
@@lillyie blade works just fine if you focus on all. I have 7k hp, 75 crit rate and 180 crit dmg and he doesn't usually die
its just his scalling modifier kinda low and 5 stacking with that speed is ehhhh. even irun him with Double Harmony its still Strugle to fast clear dying is not really a problem for him especially with Hp boots, Hp sphere and Sig LC. Black Swan Kafka its just better in terms of Raw power.
0:06 300k was not unreachable for him
Savor it for him
I remember getting Blade when he first released as a F2P player and I don't regret pulling him whatsoever, He was the first ever limited 5 star character that I pulled for and he was my main dps (his F2P lightcone is A Secret Vow) until I built Acheron, I still do use him quite a lot since both him and Bronya (one of the first 5 star character that I got from the standard banner) carried me throughout most of the game until I got other characters like Acheron, Aventurine, Robin, Boothill and some others.
I got Blade on his rerun as I started on 1.4 and suddenly I was able to clear a lot more content at that time than I had been doing prior. So he was a great investment at the time for me.
Even though he has fallen off since, he still retains this really strong cool and fun factor that few other characters have (even if they are much stronger). The hits feel solid and his animations always feel impactful.
Simulated/Divergent Universes are always a great place to bring him out since they can make any character feel overpowered. So I’ll make a team with him there just to have some fun and enjoy playing with him.
I still use him for basically everything. Basic attack buff? Check. Dot? Check. AOE? Check. FUA? Check. Ult att buff? Check. The only thing I don't use him for is to apply debuffs for acheron and content with skill att buffs (which i throw Jingliu in, then, more or less, check). Still really fun and i use him all the time hehe
I wouldn't call him failed but right now he's holding onto Jade's whip as his last hope (I say this as a blade lover) I hope someday he indirectly gets more buffs
A Simp in both gameplay and lore 😂
I doesn't have Jade but Jingliu , Lynx , Sparkle & Bronya . He with Yunli LC is doing pretty well in MoC . Can't wait to use him pure fiction too .
Frankly Jade outside of pure fiction is doing no better than blade, despite the seemingly high synergy between the two of them, jade changed extremely little about blade's state in the meta. She's not even good for him outside of pf, you would still prefer hypercarry blade over jade blade for moc or apoc
Blade and Jade doesn’t beat out hyper carry blade with 2 supports in MoC… so his meta didn’t change at all there… he still sucks unless you’re playing the 2 in PF but that’s essentially Jade doing all the heavy lifting… Jade is made for PF, Blade doesn’t even have a game mode he excels in
It really brings into question:
Is it really the dps doing the damage or the side characters that make him look good? Because they aren’t even doing that, the best supports can’t do anything for him… and even if they release a hp scaling buffer, then a new better dps would release that overshadows Blade… indirect buffs won’t really help him because of his inherently low damage so the new support would have to be busted anyways
Nah he just needs a harmony/abundance that buffs ally hp exponentially and that'll do the trick in my opinion. Imagine and Abunsance that taunts ans buffs an ally's hp + some random buffs (if Huo Huo can others can too)
There's rumors of hp scaling units in 3.0 or so that work really well together. And one of them is a buffer if I remember
Both of them are destruction and is played together iirc
He's not weak. It's just the devs deciding that Acheron and Firefly will be the standard for damage in 2.0.
exactly, the bar SKYROCKETED
I love Blade but man he desperately needs Furina. Could also help make Luocha more relevant again, but at least he can still be placed into many teams, meta or non meta. Also, judging by Sparkle's old leaked kit, I think she was supposed to be Blade's dedicated support due to the fact it said she was able to boost HP with her skill, but something happened and she was forced to just be Bronya on crack.
Edit: I'm honestly afraid that if we get more HP scaling DPS units who also consume HP they would have better scaling than him and he'll probably most likely be doomed forever at that point. At least Luocha would probably finally find his place in newer teams (saying this as a Luocha lover myself who has him and uses him). Honestly imo sustain powercreep isn't as bad as DPS powercreep because at least a lot of sustains can still be used in many different kinds of teams even if they get powercrept or not. (Unless you main someone like Arlan or Yanqing who prefer shielders over healers)
HSR Furina when??😭😭😭
There's no way they don't do a Furina for this game once Lingsha is out. Luocha, Lingsha, and even a well-built UOH- I mean HuoHuo will overheal, so it'd be nice to see it put to good use! I think the main reason an HP buffing Harmony hasn't shown up yet is because in combination with an actual sustain who scales on HP it'd quickly get ridiculous, so the idea of turning HP-scaling overheal into some kind of dmg% or pen% would be the best way to keep our emo boy thriving instead of just alive...
@@jellifygirl I remember seeing leaks about two HP scaling Destruction characters (One Quantum one Imaginary) with similar kits as Blade. The team used in beta testing was them + Lingsha + Luocha and I don't think their HP consumption is that high to the point they have to run two sustains who already overheal like crazy by themselves (it's probably some devs messing around with what they have) but I think this means that Lingsha and Luocha will be their best sustain options! A HSR Furina would really be great for them. Hell, I think even a well built Bailu can benefit from a character similar to Furina.
I mean we do have Jingliu for that one
@@k.h6635 Jingliu only has her ally HP drain mechanic though
Ngl for me he is the most fun character in the game.
Despite being old, his animations and visuals match pretty well with newest characters.
Speaking for myself, I can clear anything so... Sometimes it just nice to play with the ones you like, even if he not 0 cycle like acheron/Firefly, you can still have fun and clear stuff with it.
Other than blade, him and JL probably are the ones having difficulty since none of em have like actual supports for em (dhil has sparkle, ruan mei is literally for break teams, kafka has bs)
Waiting for a support for these two separately, they are so fun :,
Ruan Mei isn't just for break teams, she can be placed in almost any comp but she shines the most in break teama
@@reshmin1760 any harmony units can be used for any comps, but ruan mei is made for break archetypes. Sparkle for sp hungry comps, robin for follow up comps, and ruan for break comps. All are units are universal, but ruan is for break teams. Like harmony mc excels in break teams.
Pick JL and Firefly, their support would be ruan mei but 9/10 mostly used with firefly so she can dish out her max damage. While JL will be left with just bronya (even then her dmg increase wouldnt be enough for today's meta) and it won't be simply her max.
but the real news would be if there would be a harmony unit that's bsed off HP, one day blade wou will shine again (cope)
@@ThatRandomLegend manifesting HSR Furina
Tell me, seriously what purpose does an HP scaling support do at all to help blade. He scales off HP but does nothing with others. Having HP scaling supports won't do shit to help unless it's giving him more HP with at that point CD would probably be better and even then an abundance character would be more likely to give health increases instead of a support
One of the biggest values I think of Blade having is his ability to self heal, which if he is able to taunt enemies in some way, he becomes a Pseudo Sustain so you can run 3 supports, leaving him to take the damage and heal back
Considering he still has yet to get a 5 Star support, dedicated Planar, I believe he has potential for the future (since he's a Stellaron Hunter and all)
He needs a specialist support. Something like Lynx but allow every hp lost into crit damage, increase hp % and such.
That would be kinda too specific
hot man damage dealer will never be a failure in my heart
Blade can get use from nearly every Simulated/Divergent Universe blessings path (Expect Nihility, Remberence and Preservation)
Blade is ass in MoC but in SU/DU and in PF with Jade he goes crazyyyy
Watch how this would age well when the HP scaling versions start coming out.
3.x might be HP scaling meta according to leaks lol
man just wait for a harmony character that buffs hp scaling characters 😔
Isn't Blade the only one
Arlan tooo @@lovemusic7122
No, Fu xuan also scales off of Hp, though she is preservation.
In terms of dps however...
For now yes, blade is the only one for now, but indicators for future characters are there
@@DrawingBuddy_ytLynx and huohuo do scales with hp too
Ho scaling harmonies will not help unless their giving blade more HP with fu xuan already does, even then a sustain is more likely to give out health buffs than some harmony. his scaling is already low he just wants a decent CR with CD buffs. It sucks that he's slow for the most part but a harmony can't really help that much unless it's action advance
The first 5star i pulled the lc for, and it made me miss the three 5stars after him 💀
I think there is still potential with his FuA. If there was another support, maybe an abundance, that can do exactly what Furina does in genshin (drain HP, increase dmg based on draining HP, then heals back the HP) then he could be brought back into relevancy somewhat because imagine Blade being able to get THREE stacks per basic attack. Add overcapping, and youll have a monstrous unkillable dps thats gonna send every sad mf to the vale every turn
literally just give me furina in hsr and ill chill
Hes still fucking hot and i just managed to get his crit ratio to something decent so..
But seriously, my mans needs furina. Honestly, i wanna brainstorm like a character who's kit would work with his hp scaling mechanics that would actually impress the dev team to add into the game bc i feel like a character that buffs based on how high/low a character's hp is could work with a lot of characters not just Blade.
Maybe they could buff atk/break effect when a character is above 50% hp or crit DMG and dmg resist when below 50% hp so that it would work today's meta. And with adjusted scaling, they could enhance the effects with elemental burst. This could be good for Luocha, since with his talent up, allied units attacking and enemies constantly attacking, allied character's hp fluctuates around the 50% mark. Although I'm no game developer/character designer so oh well🤷♀️
TRUE i as a f2p have a Godlike premium team for him huohuo in penacony set sparkle with signature lc and pv boots in blade, ruan mei/robin and now yunli lc Godlike signature relic set and a 77% 188% crit ratio and with sparkle buffs 328% crit damage AND STILL FALLS IN DAMAGE my boy deserves better 😭
Even wanderer kit does better when he has no damage amplifier reaction to proc alone and he have faruzan as his dedicaded suport bladie my boy needs his own faruzan too
@@Daiikoon I have yunli LC and a ratio of 71 to 140 and like yeah he's underwhelming. The highest he's gotten was 80k for me with bronya buffs and pela burst. I just don't understand why they haven't released a support based on hp% bc they released hanya with argenti, a character that arguably uses a ton of SP, and Gallagher, the best healer and f2p break support in game (aside from Harmony TB) so far when break effect was starting to see its full potential with the upcoming characters.
There are leaks (don't trust me on this I don't know) apparently detailing 2 future characters scaling on hp so there could be a chance of a dedicated support on their banner but then again, it could just be false rumors
Support that increases his DMG multiplier could work too no? Blade has mid multipliers iirc
He needs an entire team dedicated to his existence. His scalings and speed are simply too low be a main DPS, but his follow-up attack has good potential to be abused as it's the most unique part of him. It offers full AoE, self-healing, and triggers on any HP loss.
Sustain character that distributes damage across the team so Blade always gets stacks from enemy attacks (maybe convert it to a DoT), and has the SU dewdrop mechanic for providing damage based on healing/max HP. Harmony character with max HP buffs, HP drain, and action advance/speed, along with normal buffs (crit/def/res pen/etc). And a new DPS character that's a single-target version of Jade with strong HP scaling and can form a symbiotic relationship with Blade and carry most of the damage.
As Blade offers no actual team buffs as a sub-DPS compared to somebody like Topaz, the team will need to scale off his frequent HP fluctuations and follow-ups. This can either be the dewdrop mechanic or something new like superbreak but deals with HP and HP loss/gain.
I feel like they had a lot of Ideas they wanted to try and just dumped them into Blade's kit, Hp scaling and manipulation, sp positive sub dps, and the fact they released Lynx just after him also suggest they were going for tank/berserker vibe, but the thing about this game is that any DPS kit needs to have a well aligned support, Blade's kit didn't and still continue to have no support, all he needs is a support that takes advantage of him losing hp to buff or something, like Jade but instead of the additional dmg, give stacks of a buff each time hp changes
Blade is SP-neutral, not positive
In what world is blade sp positive lmao
@@SolarionEX in what world is any DPS SP positive
@@reshmin1760superbreak march 7th hunt in the corner:
no just march 9th in general is sp positive
Just straight up buffing is unlikely, but I could see HSR implementing an augment system someday in the far future. If they ever do that type of thing, I hope Blade is one of the first. Love his character (all the Stellaron Hunters, really), plus Daman Mills really rocks that role.
i love how you slowly started sounding sadder through the video
i predict that if they do decide to make another hp scaling 5* dps, they'll release a 4* character that can support them with the 5* or before. They already did this for break with Gallagher and Harmony Trailblazer, and with Feixiao coming we have Hunt March and Moze for follow up teams. Blade just had the misfortune of being released during the hypercarry meta
I don’t have him but i like him because he is the textbook definition of a destruction character
I’m a blade main and I don’t care he’s been powercrept even if he doesn’t deal the most damage he’s always my best for me
Wdym failed E6S1 Blade thanks to Jade became a monster in calyx endgame
"Calyx Endgame".. You mean the thing with mobs that can get killed so fast to a point where 6 waves are not enough..?
Man this was suprisingly nostalgic, i started playing around the 1.2 patch, i feel nostalgic just thinking about it(unrelated but blade does have a f2p light cone in "secret vow")
I'm getting fun results with a team of Fu, Blade, Sparkle/ Bronya (E2), and Jade in MoC/ PF/ DU 6.
He syncs very well with Jade, almost doubling the frequency of his FU sweep.
Without Jade though, even with 2 supports, he isn't as fun (and good) as with Jade + 1 support (or 2 for PF).
Still love him! and use him quite often for my auto DU/ farming team for weekly
Blade's the first limited character I pulled for since I started in late 1.1 (near the end of SW's banner). It was painful to use him at first as he kept dying and I didn't have any lightcones that were good for him. I had benched him in favour of Yanqing as he was my main DPS at the time.
I only started building Blade when I got Fu Xuan and Yanqing doesn't work well with a sustainer that doesn't have a shield. So to avoid Fu Xuan going to waste, I went ahead and built Blade. I used the 3-star LC that gives him Crit rate. Later, I eventually got "A Secret Vow" and decided to go all out in building him. I eventually got his Signature LC during his rerun.
He's well built now he's helped me clear most of the content. Nowadays I rarely use him since I got Jingliu and eventually Firefly. Given how slow he is, and how most of my characters are fast (at least 134 SPD) I just decided to use the faster characters more. However, when I do use him, I would pair him with Jingliu or Hunt March 7th.
I remember getting blade when new to gacha, somehow managed to get blade and luocha and I ran that team for ages. But I found myself complaining about blade so often because he truly just was not a power house like the other limited 5 star destruction units that would follow him. I love his design so while a part of me wished I’d gotten someone like jingliu or even fuxuan for a mono quantum team, I still loved blade. I use him in my secondary team in MoC to this day but only because I lack a better dps. I will be using him for a long time too since I am pulling Lingsha for my ff team. But without a doubt, blade will be replaced by the next destruction unit that arrives for me unless a better support for him comes around. He’s too slow, does too little damage compared to others and the rest doesn’t need to be said. It was fun while it lasted but he has long overstayed his welcome.
"Save the blade player base new tigyun"
Please be an hp focused support i do not want to wait until 3.0
Have hope , sunday is rumured to be a support and not to mention , according to leaks we will have more supports in 3.x patches so we will get furina in hsr 4 sure.
@@soulfulhuman8724 not really most of the leaks indicate a wave of destruction erudution and nihility with no harmony or preservation, but these are still just leak so take them with grain of salt
Blade having to rely on the Generic Inert Salsotto and having no dedicated HP Ornaments is mean, but then having no actual Supports or 5S Version of Lynx and being second fiddle to Jade/Jingliu setups is cruel. Man is just begging to be put out of his misery.
Also, no, his Signature is stronger because of the DMG Boost when he loses HP and the Base HP. The Taunt Value isn't that big of a deal, is just nice to have on Berserker Characters. Having high crit on him is better than being attacked "sometimes more", since he is so slow. Every hit he does has to count.
Blade is definitely one of the coolest characters in the game including playstyle. Hopefully they will buf him somehow so can return to front lines. I had a blast when playing blade + jingliu.
Bro the firefly hoodie looks sick, i need one in black
TBF the HP draining side of destruction is really underutilized outside of simulated universe. Only problem is if there's a buffer that boost HP manipulation characters, similar characters will just powercreep blade directly. That being said, since blade's FUA is tied to the instances of HP drain, he should in theory get the most benefit out of a buffer that drains HP & provides stat boost based on drain HP.
He's absolutely bangers with SU/DU buffs tho I love his follow up attack, it's so badass
Gotta love our boy that shines only in SU/DU ^^
I absolutely love Blade, i have him e2s1, with plans for the full e6 in the future... and i dont even use him. Ive hyperinvested relics and maxed his talents, ive also pulled an e0s1 Sparkle, and somehow have an e4 Bronya. Hes just... still not worth it man.
His whole shtick is that he trades damage for less sp consumption and survivability yet its just never worth it. People keep saying a HP scaling support will help him, but i think its a bit too late at this point. His scalings are also kind of just terrible.
Nah in all honesty I feel bad for the ppl who heavily invested into blade just for bruh to get thrown to the way side
Blades problem is that kafka, seele and jing yuan (other 5 stars at the time ) got characters that buff them. Jing yuan got fua team, kafka got dot team, seele got mono quantum team. Blade didn't get anything.
It sort of feels like the devs didn't really know what to do with his kit.
At first glance you'd think he'd be a bruiser/berserker style character, one who sacrifices health and survivability for damage, similar to Arlan.
Instead he's the exact opposite, sacrificing damage for lower SP consumption and ease of use.
And despite being "immortal" in lore, his actual self healing generally isn't enough to offset his own self damage, which could have opened a path for a third support in his team. Right now tho, a healer is still quite mandatory in order to keep him alive (Edit: and even maximize his own damage lol)
I just feel really sad that he's starting to get outclassed, which is inevitable. I haven't been using him as much as I used to, I've invested in him a lot in support, lightcones, relics and etcetera. Just hope there's some sort of buff hoyo can give him......
Blade is one of the characters I’m hoping we get another path for 😭
I have Blade E0since his release with his LC (that I got it in his rerun, was using a bad lc for him before) and I still use him in Apocaliptic Shadow, PF and for farming mats(in MoC sometimes too but it has become a bit difficult with the MoC buffs and weakness not making it easy) , he is really fun to use with Jingliu or even in a FuA team, he's not an Acheron or a Firefly, but I really like his character and his kit (and in pf he is really good) and his dmg isn't that bad. I believe the devs are going to make more characters and relics that can buff Blade and characters like him that might come out in the future (like how they did with Jing Yuan and those little buff with Topaz, FuA relic sets and etc)
I think people who think an hp buffer/support is the only thing that can help blade and that theres no future for him are thinking a little too small here, blade (and jingliu) have a specific niche that hasn't really been capitalized outside of certain divergent universe buffs/equations:
HP loss
Specifically, they (and Jade) are ones that can enable hp loss on themselves or other party members on demand. Add in any unit that can build up charges (for example) from team HP loss and buffs or attacks based off it, and blade will have a niche unique to himself (+Jingliu/Jade who further enables this)
I have to admit Blade's situation makes me feel bad for him, close enough to how tragic I found his story and as someone who dedicated a whole year of maining him though he normally does 300K with his Ultimate at E0 without his Signature (I use the S5 Arlan LC and I'm saving for his LC on his next rerun as I refuse to spend it on Yunli's signature) and I do feel at times if I invested as much as I did towards him towards someone else I'd feel more rewarded and that the only way he'll see as much of a spot as much of a spot that the other HCQ Members got to see is if he even got a single support that would be like the Faruzan to Scaramouche but the only way Hoyo would feel bothered to do so if Hoyo releases more HP-Scaling units and knowing them they enjoy powercreeping characters and I feel Blade won't be given such a Favor that they'd let him avoid such a case so he's basically pushed towards a wall in the Meta which bothers me more since there's Jing Yuan who by default is the worst Limited 5* by his kit alone but they always managed to buff him so many times in each patch indirectly and makes me feel I might abandon him in the future even though he's a fan favorite beloved by others like me..
This vid might not age well since HP scaling center unit is coming soon. I'd say only make a vid once a character has truly been outclassed within their niche or achetype.
Ooh, can you give me some hints on you know what i mean hehe, cuz i haven't looked at the latest info.
Even if the hp scaling meta is true… that just means another dps that scales off hp is going to do it better… it doesn’t even matter how much better because Blade is arguably the worst limited 5* that honestly doesn’t even have a niche besides using hp
His niche of being a dps that can self sustain is useless in this game because every character is on field so a sustainer is still necessary… but ok, we can argue that his self sustain is enough for a team without a sustain… that would be good since he’s the character with the highest likelihood to survive one of those teams with such a kit, however the point of those teams it to maximise damage and clear in so little cycles that healthy doesn’t matter… and guess what, Blade has the lowest damage numbers out of all the limited 5* dps that supports can’t really save
But as you said there may be a hp support character that would help his case… but to even advertise such a character a new and better shiny dps that does more damage will have to release making Blade essentially useless unless he gets a new form… but that may change the entirety of his kit with a new form still making the Blade we know today completely useless
He’s a character that has an inherently useless niche for such a game anyways… it doesn’t really matter what case you make for Blade… I think he would be better as a 4* because then at least he wouldn’t take so many jades to get, even other 4* characters do more damage like Xueyi but it doesn’t make sense in lore for him to be a 4*
There will be no HP scaling meta. The 3.0 meta will be position based, the rumored 3.x characters are HP and Speed Scaling and both of them are played together.
@thederp9309 bro what? his main gimmick isn't to take his own hp. Its to scale with the amount of hp he has. We have such low how numbers in this game compared to genshin, so ofc he isnt gonna be strong rn.
@@lesterism never said there would be a meta for hp scalers. Just said support for that achetype.
You wanna say something about me, bub?
That 4 cycle clear may be unreachable for me
Flashback to 1.x where Jingliu reigned supreme for over 6 months due to ice weakness in MoC
Blade is my fav character and he's the one pulled me into the game when he was still in cbt. Like, man, he looks so cool and etc. Then, I learn about his lore and backstory, it makes me want to main him more and want him to show up in future story. Unfortunately, it's sad that he falls off eventually after many patches :')
next: the history of Honkai: Star Rail's forgotten archetype DOT...
Jiaoqiu still exists.
Is he mid? Yes. But MHY hasn't forgotten about DoT *yet.*
@@vitorjjgameplays5786 No one pulls him for dot they pull him for Acheron
tbh i think blade was meant to be a sub dps bc when you compare his best synergies to other damage dealers at the time of his release he's one of the only ones who works best with another damage dealer like topaz neither are great as a hypercarry but the moment you put blade with jingliu or jade and topaz with any fua character really but ratio especially suddenly they're really good although you do want teams full of limited 5* to make it happen but blade was released at a time where everyone was just hypercarrying everyone and their mother bc there was no options until we got kafka but even then kafka needed to wait for her best teammates to really shine (i know bc i skipped blade for her in 1.2 even tho i wanted and still want him) so he suffered the fate of being hypercarried when he wasn't meant for it ofc you can still hypercarry his best teammates or for jade use himeko/herta but blade really works best as a sub dps to anyone who can drain his hp i def think we need more ppl to realize this so everyone with a blade that can't clear content can use him to his fullest potential and see he's not bad just misused just like topaz was before ratio's release
With the amount of hp this man has, his talant healing him after getting hit 5 times and his ult doing more dmg by talying the hp lost, it made sense to treat him like a sub dps/tank/bruiser.
But thx to hoyo obsestion for dps checks, people cant look at Blade any other way.
I noticed this with Clara too. Yunli is far better at dpsing than Clara, but clara still has 35% dmg reduction for 2 turns. Even if Yunli can self heal, this cost a skill point while you have to wait for her turn, if she is also as slow as Clara then oef. Yunli also has 20% dmg reduction while her ult is active... so for 1 or 2 attacks.
But because dps is king: Yunli wins, Clara and Blade lose.
Tbh I don't think he was ever even meant to be played as a hypercarry DPS. We were just forced to hypercarry him because we didn't have a lot of content back then. I can somewhat see him getting the Topaz treatment if HYV ever decides to push a HP fluctuation meta but only time will tell. Hell, literally back then a bunch of people recommended running him with another DPS + Pela/Silver Wolf and a healer if you had him but not Bronya. It's no wonder why Jingliu is ironically his best teammate despite being a DPS unit rather than a support or sustain.
Blade didn't fail us. Hoyo failed him
They made Destruction do everything with no risk, all reward. So the two units based on that, Arlan and Blade, are left in the dust for thier fans.
At least Blade gets a new LC
I remember grinding jades for Blade Meta (SW Luocha Lightcone) but I didn't use him much after IL came out. Now I use him with Yunli :0
Calm down guys, he just needs hp support, just like firefly would lose 90% of her damage without mc superbreak
Real but will they add a hp support for him tho
FF would lose 90% of her damage without HMC, IF YOU DON'T USE FF ULT. Dude this is just straight up misinformation. HMC is good with FF not because of HMC gives 90% damage to FF, it's because there is no other proper superbreak support and with HMC, all other teammates can do superbreak. FF herself doesn't even lose 10%. Stop coping.
90% is a lot, although hmc can universally give superbreak to anyone and double result to Firefly, and no, this result also very depending how much toughness reduction your dps.
@@extrastuffboxofaksakl1k354 Okay but does she do the same damage without him? No. Firefly without the trailblazer is garbage F tier.
@@shazamnegroid7379 And archeron is f tier by that same logic when you have no supports, the same for every dps lol. What is this idiotic logic
My e2s3 Blade struggling so bad rn, even though I just got Ruan mei with bronya and Luocha
Blade used to carry me on MoC and I even pulled his LC on his rerun because he deserved it, but right now, I only use him when I farm materials lol.
Hopefully in the future patches, we get another HP scaling DPS or HP buffer in order for Blade to shine again.
Still thanks to blade I beat phantylia on my early days. He was my first fully built character
As a Main blade user. Problem with Blade is that the type of endgame is Speed cycle based and two Destruction units way too fast to let him shine. Basically, Enemy design and Cycle endgame design ruined blade.
Tbh if we get an endgame mode based around survivability rather than how fast you can clear then I think that would benefit Blade a lot
Blade was my first 5 star that came at 40 pulls and also brought good luck with him since then i have never lost a 50/50 ( i have 7 5 stars as f2p)
We need an hsr furina and he will be good
The only way we can save him is to make his HP scalings good or create a support that helps him reduce his HP fatser to up his damage.
comments: "but blade can self heal" "but blade can survive longer alone".
FF can also heal a lot. Way more than Blade. FF can full heal but blade, let's be realistic, won't survive alone. He usually stuck at 1 hp (in long fight if not dead) and heal 20% just to go back to 1% next turn. Powercrept is real, stop coping.
They tried to save him with Jade but even then it's not enough, u better of just pull Yunli or heck, even Clara
Let's get a rerun banner going in memory and love for Blade :3 I'm sure he'll get a good support soon or a new version hehe xd
Apparently the event lightcone for 2.6 is a decent f2p option for him
From most Gacha game I've experienced so far , I feel like they've make some trend pretty common or setting a trends that I have notice ,
never pull for a male character , unless they're support character , there will always be a female one that's better than him coming not so long after .
What about DHIL being the strongest 1.0 character in the game that is better than Jingliu and is stronger than her with eidolon investment. Additionally Jingliu came after DHIL.
Nah it's more like pull for the hoyo favorite wne you'll be rewarded since they'll buff them to the moon and leave anyone else they don't care about to starve
1- DHIL came out during 1.3 version - Seele was the Best dps at 1.0 being the first Limited 5*
2- Jingliu at release was stronger than DHIL the only time DHIL is stronger is at E2 scenario, but at E0 Jingliu is better
@@Vindencitbf jingliu fell off with DHIL and ratio being better than her now.
Genshin is honestly the only game where I feel like the men are allowed to thrive
@@HazZzel- Why don’t they thrive in HSR too? Every male character so far has been great on release especially characters like aventurine who has a whole trailblaze quest dedicated to him + he’s the best overall sustain in the game.
Blade+Jing used to be my strongest duo when they came out, their current situation is heartbreaking, they were really fun to play, but now no matter what I do, they can hardly clear stuff
Hp scaling support save us
If they'll add similar Furina buffer in Star Rail he'll be better.
He already has best healer in his team, Luocha, and Bronya so Furina/similar character is what he needs. Having her will buff not only him, hp scaling units, self health losing units but also healers.
the problem with blade from my pov is that he's not really a hypercarry, but more of a sub-dps, and the only one that can truly synergize well alongside him is jingliu (and technically jade but not to the same extent), apart from them blade didnt receive any major exclusive supports nor main dps, therefore lowering his value till this day
unfortunately as an f2p player, I’ve struggled a lot in building him because his teams are ultimately just very expensive-I didn’t have enough funds for ruan mei or sparkle so I couldn’t reach pity there, I lost 50/50 on luocha, and silver wolf is barely seeing use now :[ it’s a shame because I love the stellaron hunters, they’re all my favorite characters! but it’s sad to see how unless I dump heaps of money into this game, he’ll just never be able to clear anything
I wouldn't really call Blade a "failed" character when he was a strong DPS during 1.2 - 2.0. He fulfilled his role for that time, considering Hoyoverse never really gave him dedicated supports. He will most likely become relevant in the meta again once they decide to release more HP scaling/abundance units that work offensively. Also, they really need to release harder endgame modes that cater towards survivability, rather than how fast you can clear stages..
I've seen Blade's future since 1.0 and people bashed me thinking i'm coping before his release and calling me a Seele simp lmao. Look who's laughing now😅
In the recent patch blade lovers did get some indirect lore drops about blade. (Via qinqque march sword training story)
As a F2P player who started in 1.5, Blade is by far my worst investment. He hardly keeps up with today's meta, and what's frustrating is that all Hoyo has to do is copy Furina's kit from Genshin. Instead, Blade is forced to use supports that do wonders more on other teams.
REAL i started in hsr for blade in his first banner then leave when i ran out of time at 74 pity and didnt get him then i came back in huo huo banner and leave again came back in his rerun and still playing then pulled sparkle for him so i can use pv boots get sparkle lc and now ruan mei and finally yunli lc as a f2p
So i have a godlike premium team for blade and mi quinque performance is better in the same team
@@Daiikoon I would say I perma benched my Blade when I found out my superbreak Himeko team cleared moc faster
@@Sharkfang3 my e6 xueyi crit/break build its performing better in the moc but i still enjoy playing blade its just that its so sad that he ist that powercrept
Real skipping silver wolf for blade is probably my biggest regret in hsr, especially as an Acheron user now
i still love this character. imagine they would kinda rework him as a whole like little buffs or idk something. his e6 should be in his base or something or hell even his e1
Sometimes I wish he got a stack for his followup attack every time his HP went up *or* down... imagine the amount of followup attacks he'd be unleashing when paired with Jingliu and Luocha 😂
Seeing 37K HP damage and the HP bar of enemy Bronya just vanish is impressive
with that damage, you wont able to kill the damn trotter
When I started running a Destruction only account, Blade is the best unit ever when there's no healer around (since there's no destruction healer at all by the time I started the account) and Blade is always carrying my ass on every boss fights ever, and Imbibitor Lunae really falls off due to how glass shattering his defense is...
I love blade so much man even if he's bad dmg wise atleast he probably has the best survivability out of any dps and he's a fun duel dps with jingliu
he's my main since his release, I won't be sad about getting him, I really love him so much even he's "useless"
Pretty sure the situation with Yunli's LC in comparison to his Signature LC is that the only thing it actually improves upon with Blade is the follow up (~9%), but is a decrease in overall performance (20%-30%) for everything else because of the significant drop in HP compared to his signature.
I've always paired my Blade with my Jingliu with Ruan Mei as the buffer and Huohuo as the sustain and energy battery (Blade needs to lose HP so I never run Preservation units with him)
This doesn't give him as much damage as a hypercarry, but it takes more advantage of his talent. Even if he's not the best DPS anymore, he's still been a reliable one that is there when you need him.
Huohuo is probably better for healing, but what about Lynx? Aggro buff could probably help with keeping st and blast dmg on blade while building up stack faster.
I have considered using Lynx a few times, but I felt Huohuo fulfilled my needs in the sustainer department.
when i began struggling w/ him is when i realized his time was coming 😢
Blade is rather odd for me. I got him in 40 pulls during his rerun as a last effort to try and beat Swarm Disaster back in the day with all different paths and he delivered especially with a sub par e0s0 build and was forgotten for a dew months. Then just a couple days ago i saw someone clear AS 2nd half with break team ft Blade and well, 3500 points easily. Suddenly he had yet another niche for me. I dont think he will ever be a prime dps on my account like how it ended up with JingYuan especially since I will try to get Feixiao but i also have a gut feeling that Blade will always have a niche for me at random times, so passively building him might just be worthwhile.
I know Blade is not optimal anymore but i have always wanted him ever since i saw adds about the game. So i might still pull anyway. I really love his character. I have Acheron i got lucky when i started the game Blade will be a for fun pull if i end up getting him
I pulled for Jade to amplify Blade if I will want to, I have Bronya to amplify Blade, I pulled Jingliu to amplify Blade. I'm saving for E6. (300 in) I expect that it won't be as busted as Acheron's. But character is too cool
The problem is is he’s a destruction character that hits like an erudition character
His enhanced basic and ult are blast. His followup is full AoE though.
I can still use it, I use it with sparkle and bronya to get stacks as fast as possible and put him in the middle cuz most bosses hit 3 targets or full aoe it will not be the fastest but I can leave it on auto without worring at all
I still love blade 😊
I'm ngl he is geniunely very fun to play. I just wish he was better. I'm genuinely considering building him break because he just...does no damage. And I love using Blade because it means I can use Loucha, who is also somewhat benched
I'm looking foward to running him with pela and Jiaoqiu. I heard they pretty much 100% shred the def of the enemies when put together. Hopefully Blade will do better since he likes to have debuffers
I like Blade but you have to have him as a sub DPS. Pairing him with Jingliu or a heavy SP damage character improves your overall damage. He has a very strong follow up attack and he can sometimes be your tank too.