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When Joshua Kimmich challenged Hansi Flick's decisions in a team meeting 😳🇩🇪
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It wasn't a challenge
Intelligent players speak to coaches about tactics flick isn't out there on the pitch running
Flick literally asked for it
Exactly
Yes, this video doesn’t show any challenge.
But: No, Kimmich don’t seem to be intelligent here.
Exactly, just a normal conversation filled with dramatic cuts and music for TV lol
Of course, he did challenge Flick's decisions at that moment! And just because you didn't see someone yelling or something, that doesn't mean it wasn't a tense moment.
It's true that players and coaches discuss tactics and instructions. But in this moment, at that time, it wasn't a normal discussion with someone agreeing or disagreeing. It was a quality showcase on why a team with good players and a good coach can lose to any worse team just because the chemistry is really bad! That's why germany did lose that tournament in an awful way.
That also works the other way. For example, when Eintracht Frankfurt won the Euro league mainly because of an amazing chemistry between Team, Coach, and even the Fans. All together, they pushed it over the limits.
We need this type of mentality.
Sure. Normal conversations with dramatic music and cuts xD
What I love is that Hansi Flick doesn't let his ego and his position dominate him. He does not take it personally trying to show who is the boss. He assertively asks questions about what the players want and is willing to adjust tactics based on what they need. Hope he does well in barça.
Exactly bro all the best for him in his next challenge with barcelona
That's why he is in barca
Ore wa Monkey D Luffy@@joyboy1509
@@nseojomo247😂
Only Barca will hire people who literally toy around with them match after match 😂
That's a captain right there
No, this is Kimmich. Not a captain. 🤷🏻♂️
He was captain at Bayern when Neuer wasn't playing @@thorbeneK
No he's Not Brother... In Hansis Taktik, Josh would be the right Back and he hates to Play there (despite the fact that originally he is a RB, was simply Put in mf by some Dude named Pep, so Thiago could do His Magic without thinking to much about the defending job 😂)
So No, he is Not a Captain, He is simply an Ego with a Princess Attitude 😅
I'm not saying he's a captain rn I'm referring to his leading character off and on the pitch and speaking of which he held the Captain's armband several times what keeps him from being a captain rn is playing with neuer and muller
@@OGPluetsch 1. This video is not about Bayern.
2. If Kimmich was the replacement captain at Bayern, when their captain wasn‘t there, it’s THEIR fault.
3. If he was a replacement, he was NOT the captain.
He was mature. That’s a leader there
kimmich is a dumbass
Bet on it Kimmich is going to be one of the best managers ever
No, you can say one of the best. Just look at Xabi Alonso, similar profile as Kimmich, but you can’t say he’s the best manager
@@hamzaatiq2031 brother i dont say he will be the best I just say he will be one of the best
I come from the future, Kimmich became manager of Madrid and took them to third division
@@sharingun4797like you actually made it so obvious but he chose not to see it
@@hamzaatiq2031 would have Agreed if it was 12months ago not 2days smh😭🤣
More of discussion stop using clickbait descriptions
Sure. Normal conversations with dramatic music and cuts xD
That’s a leader. Not afraid to speak up to make the team better. Manager can only watch from sidelines. He needs the players perspective. You can talk all day about tactics strategy but players have to adapt to make things work
He's not challenging him, he just an expiereced player talking to the coach
"But that's not the way we want it." ... I also wouldn't quite call it a challenge, but definitely a robust adult conversation, with very useful feedback. Very impressive from Kimmich if I'm honest
Proper coach Hansi Flick is, listening to his players and discussing how they can improve as a whole instead of letting his ego get the better of him
Served him well with the German national team, didn't it?
Absolutely rubbish coach
@@jameswright4236 Well, he had 18 months and a dramatically changing team... That's a hard challenge for everyone. He has proven to be a great coach. It's sad he didn't get more time to prove his quality there but some fresh air was needed too.
@@RalphCif89 and your job is commenting in youtube videos and you're rubbish in this. You might check what this rubbish coach already achieved and then think about what you achieved in your miserable life.
@@max_sch4462Nagelsmann>Flick
Rinus Michels started this culture of open discussion between coach and players since he coaching Ajax and has lasted to this day. But, in the early 2000s, the Dutch had tons of star players, each with their own ego. These discussions often got so intense that on the field, the team never played as a unit. That’s supposedly one of the reasons why they are often called as "the best team that never won anything".
which era are you referring to? with the best that never won anything?
Also been thinking about what stars he talking about Dutch players always become stars after they leave Dutch farm league
But in early 2000s, Brazil, Italy, France, Portugal, England, Chech, and many other team also have tons of star players
"the best team that never won anything". That's the netherlands attitude. They always think they are supposed to be the best. Since the 70s. In the end it only counts what you win. And thus they are hardly "the best". It is just sugar coating the fact that they prefer to play nice but not efficient.
1988 Euros anyone!??!
This is the way to find solutions when there are discrepancies between players and head coach. In a toxic environment where there is no confidence between both parts, the players only would find a way to try to get the coach sacked.
Wdym he is literally the only coach to be fired from the german National team lol
I love reading comments of spanish people who watch these half clips, thinking it shows great management, while the reality is that this documentary single handedly ruined hansi flicks image in all of germany
@donnieg.9789 as a non German, could you explain to me how his image got ruined?
@@donnieg.9789 German team is in crisis since 2018, with different head coaches they haven't been able to be competitive again.
@@McCraigor When he took over the national team from Jogi Löw, Hansi Flick was a much respected coach. He was seen as the „brain“ in Löw's Team that won the 2014 World Cup, and ofc everyone was impressed by his treble win with Bayern München. Doubts started to arise after continuous bad performances, especially because he always seemed helpless and somewhat agitated in post-match interviews. Then this documentary came out and people were able to see behind the scenes for the first time. And throughout the documentary, it became clear that Flick not only didn't have much to offer tactically, but also wasn't able to communicate with the players at all. In a very famous scene, Flick showed the players a movie of grey goose flying in the air, in order to motivate the players. You could see in the eyes of the players that nobody understood why they were shown this movie and that they found it as cringeworthy as the watchers. In another scene, Julian Brandt arrived late, and Flicks response to that was met by utter indifferences from the players. In the scene shown here, after the short ends, Flick continues to wall Kimmichs constructive criticism completely, not even letting a discussion come to pass, after Flick himself ASKED the players for their opinions. Hence why nobody else spoke. If you dont speak german, a lot of the subtleties get lost in translation, also the subtitles are often not perfect. All in all, Flick demonstrated horrible man management skills, and no tactic genius was to be seen.
Also funny that the best motivational speech in the whole documentary came from Niklas Füllkrug. A first time international & sub was able to create more emotion within the team than the head coach.
Musiala's reaction is everything
Youre gay dude
😂😂
Was obviously learning.
He doesnt do anything
As in food?
This is great to see. The coach is not a dictator and doesn’t always get it right. The players need to step up take responsibility and challenge decisions they don’t agree with.
This is Germany this is bayern Munich club this peoples are different they are above professionalism no hard feelings just brains that work together to one gool
it's a ten second clip. come down
Stop..they're not better than anyone else
They just speak cool,
Like or love those are the options
Wat bist du ?
No, It’s not Bayern München. It‘s the german national team.
If it was Bayern München: Why are they wearing the dress of the national team? And why are there players, who never played for Bayern München? Like Kevin Trapp, who sits right next to Kimmich.
The caption on the thumbnail was wrong. I love this convo❤
I love the convo ❤️👏🏾
A good open forum for discussion... It is the key to progression ❤
This is why he’s an elite athlete and complete professional. When you’re at this level you don’t like losing. In today’s game players jump from club to club and don’t settle. This man loves his club and you can tell he wants nothing but perfection. That’s a true footballer.
He is doing anything in international levels? ... Germany 🤣💀
I don’t see a problem with this
In fact I’d expect this daily in a professional sports environment let alone a national team
Loved this kind of character. See being manager is tough job. Manager sometimes need to output from players too. How are they feeling, are they comfortable or not ?
Just loved the honesty of Kimmich
Barca fans should watch this whole documentary if they want a clear picture of Hansi Flick. I see a lot of comments here praising Flick based on this small clip. But if you had watched the full version, you wouldn't be so positive.
Cause right before this clip starts, Flick said: "the number 6 can only be an emergency solution" when covering and protecting the backline. Which explains why Flick has always refused to play and establish a clear number 6 in his teams, since that's exactly what a clear 6 would do. Kimmich then talks about how he got the feeling on the pitch that Germany's 4atb was struggling to play against Japan's 5atb (which is where this clip start). Flick then wonders why they didn't shift their backline to a 5atb by filling it with one of the 6s. This directly contradicts what Flick said earlier about how the number 6 can only be an emergency solution. Kimmich says as much because he responded saying "But that's not the way we want to play..." After that Müller chimes in and says "For such a shift to happen quickly, we have to be able to rely on each other" Flick gets frustrated by that and says "yea but guys...I dunno maybe I'm not clear enough or I'm speaking in a different language but we have been talking about exactly this the whole time: when one guy fills up a position, he must rely on the guy next to him to have his back and protect him." This was a conversation between the coach and two of his most senior players. It looked and felt like a complete mess. Mainly because Flick seemed to contradict himself and struggled to get his ideas across in a clear and precise manner. With this in mind, Germany's defensive issues under Flick are no surprise.
Barca fans should be aware that this whole scene and many more moments from the documentary painted a very poor picture of Hansi Flick as a football coach. I'd be worried if I was you.
Both the coach as player are amazing, they both showing they csn talk like real grown ups. Gg barca
Most underrated player in football. Unbelievable good.
He's considered one of the best defensive midfielders nowadays. What are you on about being underrated?! Do yiu not know whst that means. Are you just copy pasting what people say?
Underrated is an overused word
This was a healthy talking environment.
Folks, that is Joshua Kimmich. Straight to the Edge.
Tye 1st track was just him going back to his old days....flexing on yall
This what you call communication and being a leader and not being afraid to speak freely when plans go south.
Bravo to both ❤
Good interaction and constructive conversation. They're going to be very hard to beat anyway but this helps any team.
Thats shows awareness of kimmich mind😊
Very coooool stuff Ethan, love watching you in your element!!
Good on him he knew something was up and instead of not saying anything. Spoke his mind and now the coach was probably thinking dam ur right son top man 👏. Sometimes it’s better too be honest and see what happens.
Lmfaoooo, if he did this to pep... he's leaving that squad 😂
The difference is: with Pep he would not have to do it. Pep would have recognized himself. Because he is a good coach.
@@rokker333Why? Do u know him? Dont assume anything bcz of media
@@AEI__EL__AnushBarman "The truth is on the pitch". As a german I surely followed Flicks coaching work over many years. When he was assistant of Löw, Head Coach of Munich and then Head coach of Germany. Let's see how he performs in Barca.
Jiri is so ein sportsmann.
Gefühlt definitiv.
Nur liebe für seinen Kampfgeist und seine Ehrlichkeit
Those are the conversations that need to happen. Had the manager become defensive it would have been bad for the whole squad. No drama here.
This was actually a very respectful diference of opinions. Including the coach prefacing his reply with “maybe I’m wrong with this..” (He was though and was eventually fired)
Thats how to be a great Manager,always be open to opinions,withiut bashing or judging anybody.
I'm glad this guy is near from my city. He's such a strong person ( he's from rottweil, Germany)
That's what the Player Progress Report is about, constructive feedback is very important, it gives a coach a better understanding where mentally the squad is an if they following the right tactics and twitches in the system can be made!!!
Kimmich’s football iq is world class, notice the other players don’t bat an eye at him questioning the coach.
Ein Toller Mann!!
Kimmich is really him so it’s respected and he was respectful and you could tell he was speaking for the team not just himself
he got that greatest painters blood....respect
An intelligent coach would recognize an intelligent player, and react the exact same way Hansi did. Class.
Wow. Elite mindset. Can you imagine how Mikel Arteta would react? 🤣. "He will not play until he apologizes"
This is not a challenge he's just giving his humble opinion simple
This is German practice in the all workplaces. People of authority can be challenged
Stark deine Meinung zu sagen!das können viele nicht aus Angst nicht mehr angesehen zu werden!!
We need it on switch too
I'm Swiss (German side) and the whole conversation has nothing to do with "challenged" or anything. It's a simple after match discussion.
Sounds to me like respectful, constructive criticism! Typical Click bait media
Kimmich looks like he eats only healthy stuff and workouts a lot like kross
10 Hag would suspend you for this 😂
🙄
He literally sent jadon to get special training with people he trusts. It's OBVIOUS he wanted it to work
"say sorry right now or else"
😂🤣
You think Sancho is capable of such a discussion between player and coach? That's the real joke.
"I like Kendrick Lamar but I also like Drake" Wildes is the absolute best man 😂😂😂
That wasn’t a challenge, it was a discussion.
Proper leader
What a player, sign him up Chelsea
Congratulations on such a great score !
What advice and road plan would you want to give to a student who just passed his mcat and entered govt medical college and intends to give USMLE later on ?
Should he give his step 1 in second year of mbbs and step 2 in final year of mbbs ?
Any ohter important pieces of advice would be really appreciated
I thought that it was bayern until i saw flick's tshirt😹. I was confused b/w bayern and germany 😅
Jack was so funny 😂
Can't wait to see barca dressing room with flick😂
This isn't a challenge its a normal conversation
He's levels above his teammates
True
I love the fact that Hansi doesn't let his ego take over and understand that he's not totally in a right position.
„Jo, komm mal mit raus und sag mir das nochmal unter vier Augen. Mal sehen, was du dann zu sagen hast.“
This was a proper 2 way communications. Clickbait title tryna eat up views 😂
If it didn't have the dramatic music and cuts, this would just be a completely normal constructive conversation lol
Kimmich ist ein Typ mit klarer Meinung und vertritt diese auch. 👍
Tht kimmich mentality 🔥
Excited to see him against Simeone
AUPA ATLETI🔴⚪️🔴
After this ... Flick still wants kimmich in barca💀
In the original clip, Flick is the one who tells the players to talk, that if they have solutions to talk, Kimmich was not challenging Mr.
Why wouldn’t he want Kimmich? A good manager should want competent players who give productive, meaningful feedback. No good boss should want to be surrounded by sycophantic “yes men”.
@@davidguillenmorera3954Too bad, that in THIS clip Kimmich just describes an obvious problem. But shows, that he doesn’t know a solution.
@@jeffrman777 If Flick wants players, who can give productive feedback, he doesn’t want Kimmich. 😉
Kimmich is a very intelligent player...sometimes you need that input to improve....and he will see the spaces and problems
That's why he's Captain of Bayern.
Shameful that a big channel like this relies on silly clickbait titles.
That’s not challenging Flick. That’s conversing together and trying to come up with a solution.
Kimmich is currently the best German player.
Offener Austausch ist das Beste
This is why captains are captains for this reason, this is the regular...
Managers like Mourinho won't like this
Leon ain't opening his mouth
that was Kevin Trapp the Goalkeeper, not Leon Goretzka
If Man U had ONE player like that they would be a completly different club/team
Wouldnt really call this Kimmich "challenging" Flick. When an F1 driver relays feelings from the car to the team, its not a challenge. They're working together for the best possible result.
Though conversations 😮
Stop with these click bait false titles
When it's a player they love doing it they applaud. Show a clip of CR7 doing this exact same thing, in this exact same way, with this exact same response from the coach and enjoy the comments.
Elite mentality
This is where kompany is going 😂😂
Sure. Normal conversations with dramatic music and cuts xD
Kimmich looked like he stood on business
Everything sounds like its a tense conversation in German 😆 its actually an intellectual tactical conversation
*Barca need tnis coach* 🔥
Xavi will bring barca to another level😂😂
@@yogawahyudi4750 Not easy to coach Barca nowadays.
@@yogawahyudi4750aaaand he’s gone.
@@rickty20 that should be
JOSHUAAAAAAA
Flick fragt nach der Meinung der Spieler.
Er bekommt die Meinung.
Er ist böse.
Vorrundenaus 👌🏼
Joshua Kimmich is a finger pointer, where are all the great challenges he makes ???? If I recall Bayern were competing in European semifinals with the likes of Madrid they used to play Alonso Thiago or Vidal this kinda of players… later when they won there covid treble it was Thiago and Goretzka…Kimmich was a right back… since he moved in to midfield Bayern are not as good in my opinion… and with the national team he has played there a lot and been lacking for bite, he has no positional presence and he’s not stopping the ball or any passing angles, he’s vacating his positions to do offensive things that many times are not paying off, when the ball turns over now look the team is in balanced… the best midfield for Germany in this Euros I think should be Andrich and Kroos
Nagelsmann seems to agree
That is how a team discussion should be
they're not challenging each other, they're thinking about better tactics
this is not a challenge. the coach has introduced a strategy and the players don't know how to make it work. kimmich is simply asking for answers from the coach that will allow them to solve the tactical problems on the field.
Flick war ein schrecklicher Trainer und wer denkt dass er mit Barca was gewinnen wird ist falsch gewickelt😅
Fantastic