@@jaba_the_putz521 My mom got a new 85sh (can't remember) Riviera as a birthday present. That car had the first ever touch screen. The seats were like high quality leather couches. Sound system was amazing. AC could could put ice on the back window on a 105 degree, sunny day. They'd take it on vacations and we'd sleep so comfortably back there. We used to get our hands slapped trying to play with that touch screen though. 😅 Buick used to make some fantastic cars. I don't care what these kids say ; they weren't there to experience or witness it. My brother got a Regal for his first car but he flipped it being a dummy. Those were fun cars back then though.
I used to hate 80s cars and I still think that is the worst vintage decade for American car makers. Having said that, the fugliness of that decade is growing on me, at least until I have to drive one. I don’t miss the days of carburetors. I prefer fuel injection.
I think it's ironic that you are calling the quality of the car crap when it's 40 years old and holding up strong. I had an 87 Fifth Avenue it was like driving on a cloud. Suspension design in the 70s and carryover design into the 80s made these cars very easy to drive and incredibly smooth. Also the low HP for the size engine was to keep the V8 torque and drive but reduce HP to save on gas. My fifth got like 25 mpg hwy miles which is pretty impressive for such a large engine.
I bought a 1988 Fifth Avenue in the late 90's for my son to drive to school, and at first, he ...hated it! Old man car! Old man car!! Is all he said about it. It was navy blue, with a gun metal grey half " puff " top. Crush velvet seats, and VERY clean! You couldn't even here it run! Someone said earlier it was like riding on a cloud. Absolutely! Drove it a couple hundred miles, for his silly ass, to see this other car, I started driving, and after about 40 miles, he wanted to drive. At first, I said HELL NO! Old man car,.. remember?!? But I said fine, and stopped at a gas stop. He got behind the wheel, got that electric seat going, set, and we were on our way. He set the cruise, and we began to float down the highway. About 25 miles later, we stopped again. Sat there for a minute, and he turned around, and headed back home! He started talking about what wheels he was going to put on it, and on and on! He drove that car, all three years of HS, and his first two years of college. He ended up selling it to one of his friends, and bought himself an SUV. Nowadays, he wishes he didn't sell it. Toll ya!
Today's cars are throwaway cars. The stuff from the 1970's and 1980's are rebuildable old school. A 1970 Cadillac can run over most of the modern crap they make today and keep on going.
What... The 1960s cars were easy and powerful. This was incredibly overcomplicated for the time with tons of emissions equipment no one had ever seen before
Yeah it's easy to work on!... Once you remove all the emissions garbage cluttering the engine bay. Fair enough once you do that they got a fair bit of power though.
@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge they still had r*tarded timing, bad cams, poor compression, and ran poorly on new gas. Horrible era for cars in terms of power
@@bldontmatter5319 For the US probably. For Japan and Europe it was pretty much the golden age. Hell I think my late 80s Peugeot with a 1.4 litre has more power than V8s from that era.
@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge yes. Less emissions requirements. The Cadillac 500 (8.2L engine) made something like 140 hp (but 400+ torque) Laughable.
I got the same car in the picture, same color and interior even and I love it aside from stupid electronic feedback carburetors and lean burn that mopar did back then
I'm 42. My first car was an '88 LeBaron. You have to admit, modern cars run so well. I daily a '97 nissan pickup but have a '20 mustang gt premium in the garage. That 460 horse on sport+ mode is a little monster. If you took it back 20 years it would be almost supercar status.
these cars actually held up very well. Its still not uncommon to see these things still rolling in great shape. I just detailed a very clean one recently
@@42luke93 same, they're all gone... I never see them. These cars were 10y old when I was a kid in the 80's and my dad had 2 of them that I remember had rotted floors, on top of extreme rocker panel rust (floors so bad that the carpet was holding your feet up).
My dad actually drove one of these for the majority of his life and my childhood, I don't ever remember it even breaking down once. Literally. BUT- THOSE DAMN LEATHER SEATS IN HEIGHT OF SUMMER 🥵 OR DEAD OF WINTER 🥶 WERE THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD TO SIT ON!!!!! You were for sure getting a burnt or frozen ass.
Right. Literally no different than bashing fashion from the 70’s and 80’s. It’s what people wanted, it’s what people got. He acts like a Lexus IS-F was supposed to randomly pop up in 1984…
They were used as police cars back in the day. They’re affordable, a v8 rwd body on frame car . It doesn’t take much to build them as the ultimate sleeper. Middle finger salute
With roughly $3500 in work (suspension, exhaust and top end mostly) you can get over 400hp out of the engine and boil the tires with that unkillable torqueflite 727 trans (even if it's an A908 it's still practically indestructible). And look like a boss doing it.
@@smellsuperb1I have that 727 transmission in my truck with over 390,000 miles on it. Can't kill the thing, even though I've pulled full size truck camper loaded on and a loaded trailer at the same time. Only thing I've had to do is replace the seal on the kickdown input shaft where it was leaking fluid, and that was 12 years ago, still putting at least 50 miles a day on it.
I have. 1984 Chrsyler fifth avenue and ive been wanting to do a sleep build with it, any advice or websites to buy from. Its having some problems starting too right now. So im replacing the fuel pump. Unfortunately theres not a lot of youtube videos i can find on this car lol. Bought the car as a late 20th birthday gift for myself last year lol
@@isaacmorfinez-solis7432That series of vehicle is known for fuel pump and ignition problems, so you may want to update to a newer Mallory or MSD. Also check the fuel filter under the hood and in the tank. I don't remember if this has a fuel filter underneath the vehicle, I believe it's in the gas tank. Additionally anything you want to do to the drivetrain also would apply to the Dodge ramcharger, Dodge D series pickup, Plymouth Grand fury, Plymouth caravelle (Canada) and Dodge diplomat. It actually dates back to the m body Dodge St Regis and Chrysler Newport as well.
@rodney_d that? Absolutely. Total garbage. You'd had an era of American cars where the average full-size sedan weighed 4500 pounds but had a puny engine equivalent to that of a riding mower powering it. Also, the front wheel drive layout didn't help. These cars would've been better without the emission controlled power limitations and rear-wheel drive pushing the car.
@@Normal1855 " are awesome" because we still drive them and love them very much. Love taking mine out and watch the heads turn because people drive ugly ass crossovers and forgot what class looks like
@@Normal1855 ODB2 is nice to be able to diagnose issues with the vehicle. But I tend to agree with you. If society ever collapses it's going to be the old cars that are most coveted. I saw a dude with a tractor from 1954 and he said he can fix it with parts from just about anywhere, where his million dollar John Deer thresher he worries if it'll be fixable in 20 years.
My 79 Cutlass can’t be driven more than half a mile without getting compliments. So as far as looks….he’s wrong. And as far as performance…..I drive it daily with original engine and original miles and NEVER have any issues with it at all lol
Ye. They are pretty good. And more reliable then what's being build nowadays (even from japanese and germans) all the electronics & sensors can brake easily. I used to be an intern at a garage and there was an E-tron that had a not working AC just bcs of a broken sensor. Personally would prefer to get an classic mini as daily. Bcs of its its rich history & parts are plenty and shells are still being made (im not lying)
The low horsepower is because they just laid down emission regulations out of nowhere in that era, so they basically took the current engines and choked them to death, that’s why so many American cars and muscle cars had such low hp then the ones that came before and after them in that era.
Also, they actually had quite a bit of horsepower. The official ratings were at lower rpm's, probably because of the emission's crap. But most of the v8's from the 70's can actually put out well over 200hp.
Facts... And most of that was done by using smaller restrictive carburetors and if it was fuel injected at the time they were using restrictive intakes and exhaust. I bet You can open up at least 40 horsepower by changing intake and exhaust
@@procrastinatingnerd That 132hp 318 V8 also had a stout 265 ft-lbs of torque, peaking around 2000 rpm. It was a stout, reliable work horse engine, if not particularly fuel efficient. There are millions of those engines still running. They're not hard to hop up either; the '89-91 pre-Magnum heads, some larger valves, and a 4 barrel carb and intake will wake 'em up nicely. My brother built one in his truck to 500hp. It's cammed out, got headers, 340 heads, and a few other goodies.
I was born in 2005 and i fancy cars from the 1930-1980, even i wouldn’t say the old cars are trash, newer cars like the Prius looks like a toddler made it while the car your reviewing is elegant and sophisticated to the point where its a timeless piece of art like Mozarts music
I agree. I was born in 2006, but I definitely have a soft spot for older cars from any decade before the 2000s. I guess some modern cars from the 2000s and 2010s and the 2020s look and perform good but they will never compare to the good old classics.
And a change in measurement. HP at the flywheel is much higher than at the wheel, so most engines become lame overnight. They were also far too big and heavy for their own good
@@charlesc.9012 I wasn't around back then but thank God power started to go back up in the late 80s or so, I think. My dad had a 1978 camaro with a good 350 horses or so from the new motor that he put in it. Maybe a little more than 350 too, but either way, very good for 1978.
@@ryze9153 American engines always had huge torque too, and if the cars had smaller, narrower and lighter bodies, you would feel even more speed and power, especially in corners and poor weather
Worst era of cars is RIGHT NOW! Those malaise era boats had so much style and class and personality modern trash will never TOUCH! Grow up and see what we’ve LOST! A tragedy
He’s right. My parents owned a new 1980 Chrysler station wagon. Mid 1981 the automatic transmission started to slip leaving my mom stranded on two occasions. But my dad was not giving up on the we live in America we buy American. So, he trades in the Chrysler for a 1985 Chevy Celebrity. Much better than the Chrysler and for about 7 years the car was very reliable. After that we started to experience serious ignition issues to the point it left both parents stranded on two occasions. Then mom put her foot down and said, let’s give a Japanese car a chance so they purchase a fully loaded Nissan Maxima. The car lasted 25 years with only routine maintenance. It was the last car my parents bought and was in the garage when my mom recently passed.
I'll let you slide a little bit since you're about 17 years younger than me, but I will proudly drive that over a modern Nissan Altima or any modern dink crossover.
He didn’t say he wouldn’t make the same choice. Just explained the shortcomings and cut costs of american companies in the 80s, would you cant deny. Negative assumption
You couldn’t get better engines than that era. They’ll last forever. It saddens me how people truly lack knowledge about cars. Meanwhile, your bmw or Land Rover will be at the shop every week until you sell it for 95% of what you bought it for in 3 years.
Maybe but these cars look crap. No wonder Japanese and German automakers were able to capture the American Market. Slow yet Gaz Guzzlers. Unnecessarily long. Those pop up headlights look ok when down but hideous when up. Current era is not best but it's way better than this bs.
Those downsized M body Chryslers were some of the most solid cars you could buy in the 80’s…leaf spring rear suspension, Torsion bar front suspension ,LA V8 engines and A904 torqueflite transmissions…pretty much bulletproof. I always wanted a police package diplomat to drop a 71 demon spec-340 and 4 or 5 speed into…that engine would be a bolt in affair, and the manual trans conversion wouldn’t be too difficult either using A body parts.
One of the cars in my 'Motor Pool' for many years (1992-2004) was an '86 Plymouth Gran Fury AHB. (AHB= Police Package) This Fifth Avenue is the fancier version of that car. Actually was a quite reliable car,I drove it until I inherited a Crown Victoria (late fathers car) and sold the Fury. Guy I sold it to drove it 8-10 yrs himself until he sold it?
I was going to say that police package Diplomat with the 360 was very disappointing in the get up and go, and the top end departments both. The 340 would be a much better power plant.
I worked for a Chevrolet dealership in the parts dept so I got to see pretty much all the repair orders. we had a customer that had a 1977 Oldsmobile delta 88 that had only 16,000 miles on it. the car was owned by an elderly lady. I had the chance to talk to her about the car. She said that she would only drive 1-2 days a week and that she would drive around town. if she had to go anywhere else, she would have her daughter drive. that olds looked like it just rolled out of the showroom. it still had the bias ply tires, bias spare tire that never left the trunk, and all the "goodies" that came from the factory back when they still gave you things other than floormats.
I had a '77 Delta 88 two door. It was a great freaking car and I could lay rubber from a stop light if I brake torqued it. 350 Chevy with a 350 TH trans. Bulletproof, comfortable, and looked great.
But these were the early adopters of electronics so they had the most incompatible, crappiest electronics. Lots of different cables and complex mechanisms mixed in with early electronics. I agree with your point, but to avoid plastic trash and electronics, I think you’d have to go even earlier with cars.
The Timing Gear is the Achilles Heel on those 318 Engines, when the Sprockets wear they jump Timing so Drive it very carefully or replace the Timing Cain and Gears with a Cloyes brand timing set.
I mean, he spit out straight facts here. Nostalgic as these cars might be to some, they were crap and led to Japanese automakers gaining a foothold in the US market
Awe man.. memories. I had purchased me a very good condition 86’ Chrysler fifth avenue back in summer 1998. I had the all leather seats with the white fur like carpet. Installed a 12” JL audio subwoofer hooked to an Alpine v-12 amp, Eclipse front and back speakers, kenwood tweeters and front speakers ran off my Rockford fosgate amp… Man, and that car NEVER gave me any problems!
Worst? Nothing this guy posts is based on facts. I just shake my head most of the time. All unusual opinions and bias. If this is the worst, how is a 1994 Tahoe the best SUV ever made? Also this era brought about many advancements we use today (fuel injection). Talk about quality, i live in Canada in the rust belt and see these cars driven around daily. Quite a few Fifth Avenues, Diplomats and Caravelles. 500,000km on a tuned down 318 is not hard to do and would require little maintenance. How many imports from that era are still on the road??? I see many of these "worst era" cars still kicking around (Ford, Chrysler, GM). 40 years old and still working. Also, people bough these... must have liked something about them....
Cars back then had to be low horse power for emissions. The styling on those cars is straight up almost first class. They are RWD platform so that instantly makes it better. Compared to alot of modern cars, these are very reliable and easier to work on. Need to bring these cars back
@@Jeff-bd5yo unibody isn't too bad if you can keep up on maintaining it and you're in just like an economy car/grocery getter. Solid frames are much simpler to reinforce, fix and or modify.
Bump the timing up until it starts to tick then back it off until the ticking goes away and it will be a weapon. Also dump the leanburn system and cat if it has it
My dad drove a 86 fifth avenue. Car was a dream to drive. Never been in a car as comfortable. Never broke down. Learned to drive on it. These cars had class. Now all our cars are cold and soulless. This dude is way off base.
This is what electric cars and reddits love for Elon has done to the average nerd, they look at anything old and hate it because “No technology, no aerodynamics, bad car”
@@mattwolf7698 actually malaise era (1974-1984) car seats and suspension give the cars a ride that's more comfortable than modern cars (btw I speak from experience I've been in 2 Oldsmobile cutlass coupes)
It was an awful era for hp and fit and finish. But they were super comfortable and sturdy as hell! Note: I am not conflating “sturdiness” with safety. I am well aware a modern car is safer in a crash.
@@styldsteel1 not by today's standards. I'm mostly referring to the "floating" nature of these and the large bodies and trunks, with body-on-frame design.
@@styldsteel1 that is actually true the Fifth Avenue, Grand furry, early m body new yorker, lebron and diplomat were even smaller than the Ford Crown Vic and Chevrolet Caprice at the time
As an owner of an 84 Buick station wagon... The fake woodgrain inside and out, the 140hp 5.0L, the plastic trim that rots away.... It's all awful and I absolutely love it!
I have a 79 Olds wagon that's probably very similar. It came from the factory with 185 hp and 325 ft/lbs of torque. Not stellar for 6.6 liters, but all I had to do was let it breath easier to get it closer to 230 and 375. Still not a race car, but for 2 1/4 ton car with a 3 ton towing capacity, it has to be doing SOMETHING right in the power department. I'd love to see one of the newer unibody cars towing a double axle Air Stream at 70mph. I just don't want to be on the road near it while it was happening. Your Buick very likely has an Olds 307 V8 (I believe it was the only 5.0 ltr V8 available for it). There is a high output version of that engine that came in 83-87 Hurst Olds and 4-4-2 Cutlass, 86-early 88 Cadillac Brougham. It's the LG8 engine it produced upwards of 180hp and 245 ft/lbs of torque. When cruising through the junkyard, you're looking for engine VIN code "9". It's a pretty impressive "little" engine, especially considering the era in which it was built. You don't have to change your entire engine though, just grab the heads and push rods off an LG8 (you may have to modify your intake manifold runners to match the head ports, or just grab the intake manifold off the LG8), get a cam shaft from a mid 70s Olds 350, a fresh set of lifters and timing chain and gears, put larger fuel flow metering rods in the secondary's on your existing Quadrajet, and put a larger diameter pipe true dual exhaust on the car and you'll be real close. The hardest part will be finding those heads for less than an arm and a leg. Or you could grab a late 60's or early 70s Olds 455 (7.5 ltr). It'll drop right in the existing space and bolt right up to the frame and transmission just like the 307 (sans computer controls that is, but your Quadrajet can be modified to feed that big block). That'll get you to somewhere in the low 300 to closer to 400 hp, and upwards of 500 ft/lbs of torque and I promise you'll have the quickest station wagon in your neighborhood. There may be an air cleaner to hood clearance problem so be prepared for that, and you'll need a much larger radiator (Summit has an aluminum 4 core radiators at reasonable prices), and I'd highly recommend getting a TH200-4R transmission (like the one you have) that was built for high performance applications. The stock transmission isn't going to last long behind all that power. I don't know about the Buicks, but the Olds wagons came with large, limited slip, "P" axles for many years, and they can handle the power of the big block as long as you're not seriously abusing it (which you may find difficult to resist doing once you have all that power) but any rear end will fail from serious abuse. Keep in mind, motor mounts, transmissions and torque converters, driveshafts, and tires are easy to ruin in this configuration, and ExxonMobil will probably start sending you Christmas cards as a thank you for buying so much fuel, so keep your head on right. :) Probably more than you ever wanted to know about it, but the topic landed on something I have experience with and I had to share. ;)
My dad had an '88 Caprice Classic Wagon with the same 5.0 307 Olds V8, his wasn't as luxurious as yours but it had fake woodgrain and was every bit as practical!
Anything that old still on the road ain’t that bad. Back then, you could’ve spent 3 times more for an even slower Mercedes 380SEL though! Or twice as much for a 240D at least with its 23 second 0-60 time 🤣.
And good luck finding a Benz or a BMW of that Era still on the road. Usually they'll need basically an entire rebuild, yet people still praise them for whatever reason
I had some '80s and 90s Buick LeSabre they got anywhere from 21 to 31 miles per gallon. They all held up beautifully into the two to three hundred thousand mile range. Those were a nice value for dollar vehicle.
My parents had a couple 90s Buick LeSabres and they were quite smooth on crappy Michigan Roads. Only reason they got rid of them is because during winter of like 2014 some frayed wires caused something to short out and start a fire. I remember hearing a small explosion only to see my dad dumping snow on top of the engine to put out the fire.
Today cars have crumple zones are designed to shatter. They are far more safer. Cars back then sometimes required the jaws of life because you be crunched in metal
Man this guy has no idea what class and elegance is, sure would they lack in horsepower do they make up an Elegance comfort fuel economy for the most part and when you're in the city you couldn't ask for better
This kid is not lying though. Those care are horrible. You can't compare them to a mercedes benz from the same era. These things handle like a watered, they were slow while gulping fuel.
@@implive17 I haven't seen a Mercedes from that era for 20 years. But I still see these M body Chryslers on the road today. I still even see several 1980's Ram trucks every day.
As a Gen Z, I still think this era of American cars had some of the best cars, I'd love to buy a land yacht like a 70s Continental, something about the era is just pleasing. Might be crap in some places, but it looks and feels like luxury, and there's just something about it that feels right. Also, they still run, so that's a plus.
@@HawkEM2I have a ‘71 Continental Mark III with 53,000 miles and it’s all original. It feels so substantial with everything you do. I think the Mark III was the best generation they made because it was made before emissions compliance was a thing so it’s rated for 365 horsepower. It was also built incredibly well.
Cars today have ZERO personality. I admit, '90s cars had very plasticy interiors but they also didn't cost as much as a starter home, either. What pisses me off is that you can't just go to the dealership and buy a basic pickup truck. They are all LOADED with options and cost 60 to 70k. I guess if people buy them it's what they build.
My parents LOVED their 87 Fifth Avenue with everything but a sunroof. Even had the handling package. Great road trip car. They had it for 21 years and 140 miles
Not all were bad. The 98s, Caprice Classics Buick Electras Caddies and many more were good in the 70s. Chrysler was not so hot. 80s cars still had plenty of good ones.
Those were the cars that produced back inthe 80's, with fuel restrictions dictated by the government. But those cars were so comfortable, silent, and had a very soft ride.
These cars exist because that's what customers wanted back then. It's like judging someone who wore bell bottoms in the 70s because it's 2024. Back then, like bell bottoms, cars that looked like this is what people wanted, and they blended in with all of the other vinyl topped cars.
That particular car there has been very well kept over the years. It's in remarkable cosmetic shape for its age. One thing I can definitely say about American cars of the 70's and 80's is they were a lot more comfortable than the Japanese equivalents and even more comfortable than new cars being made today. To be honest, I miss well cushioned seats, and especially front bench seats.
I wouldn’t expect Tommy to understand nor appreciate vehicles from this time period he’s too young. This actually wasn’t the worst. And these Chryslers were very popular and durable vehicles. They even used them for police cars
I agree I had a 80 Toyota Corolla 5 Speed I don't think it ever out run anything. It wasn't a very good ride compared to my Dads old Chrysler Newport. We called it the yellow submarine. It just floated around so comfortable.
The reason we don't see any Japanese cars left from that time is because people just drove them until they died or rusted out, most of them made it well past their life expectancy and lasted way longer than any non-fullsize American cars (especially Toyota, Subaru, and Honda) they weren't junk at all. I was still seeing quite a few of them still on the road throughout the mid 00's up until Obama's cash for clunkers BS.
@@lastotallyawesomebleach204 Agreed. They weren't junk. The reason small cars last so long is that they are light and don't wear out their moving parts as fast as heavy vehicles. Doors hinges, suspension parts, shocks, tires brakes clutches etc. Most Japanese interiors were very well put together compared to the pitifully cheap construction in American vehicles of the 80's. I've driven so many used vehicles I can't remember, but I lose count at 40 over 55 years of driving. All well used. Not all well l taken care of. My opinion is that American trucks were never as bad as they have been portrayed to be, but after 1978, the cars were pretty crappy with a few exceptions. The Governmenrt was to blame for alot of the problems associated with the lax quality as the Big 3 were forced to make EPA fuel emmission and mileage standards. The industry simply was not tooled to build samll cars with the same robustness of bigger cars, and so, out came the lame K-cars from Mopar and the X-cars for GM. I can't even remember what Ford shoved out the door. The trucks remained pretty good, though.
People didn't view Japanese cars as classics/future classics at the time and didn't think it was worth repairing them when they were 15-20 years old. Also wages went farther back then, by the time someone's Civic needed a big repair they might have thought it was better to buy a new car. Also these cars were owned by a lot of elderly people which didn't put a ton of miles on them.
@@lilibethdoherty295 I have a 1984 Dodge Ram W100 with over 400,000 miles on it with the 318 motor, still running great, never had to change the timing chain.
Chrysler must have beefed up the original design in the later years of production just like Ford when they tried nylon timing gears that proved disastrous. The low end torque makes the 318 a pleasure to drive, the 360 seems to make torque at a higher RPM and as soon as you touch the accelerator it's right there on the 318,@@Robert-mz9hi
This was a good rebuildable car and very nice to drive. It's not the best, but not the worst either. They were made during the gas shortage in the 80's.
Obviously this guy has no idea. If he only set once for a few hours on a road trip in one of these , he would understand 😂. You can keep your toyotas , ill take this over them any day
But hey, they're comfy as hell!
Proud owner of an '85 Grand Marquis here.
I have a 06 grand marquis a lot newer but fun to drive and so comfortable!
Yep, the era of couch seats, tall sidewall tires, and soft suspension.
I'd totally buy that car. It's wonderful in it's own way
Love my 84 Buick Park Ave too
@@jaba_the_putz521 My mom got a new 85sh (can't remember) Riviera as a birthday present. That car had the first ever touch screen. The seats were like high quality leather couches. Sound system was amazing. AC could could put ice on the back window on a 105 degree, sunny day. They'd take it on vacations and we'd sleep so comfortably back there. We used to get our hands slapped trying to play with that touch screen though. 😅
Buick used to make some fantastic cars. I don't care what these kids say ; they weren't there to experience or witness it. My brother got a Regal for his first car but he flipped it being a dummy. Those were fun cars back then though.
85 ltd crown vic owner here. Find me one modern car that can ride as nice as American land yachts
I'm glad people think this way. Keeps them affordable so I can collect them.
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Whose gonna tell him?
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They ride like clouds older cars
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At the moment this car felt like the most indestructible thing in the series
HahhHahha, u read my mind 😂
you killed brock!
Don’t listen to this man. He has no idea what he’s talking about. 80s cars look really nice and still do 40 years later
I agree. Love the landau top!
I used to hate 80s cars and I still think that is the worst vintage decade for American car makers. Having said that, the fugliness of that decade is growing on me, at least until I have to drive one. I don’t miss the days of carburetors. I prefer fuel injection.
The pink sweater tells Me he can't change a flat tire
I would never listen to a man in a pink sweater and doesn't appreciate classic cars
You obviously live a state weed has been allowed
The quality can't be that bad, it's still around at age 44.
99.9% are dead and have been for decades.
I mean. It aint a rare car for no reason
Definitely been restored my guy
My 2ltr golf produces 500hp..
@@liamplunkett5100 no it hasn't, it was probably a garage queen to be that nice. Nobody spends money to restore that
I think it's ironic that you are calling the quality of the car crap when it's 40 years old and holding up strong. I had an 87 Fifth Avenue it was like driving on a cloud. Suspension design in the 70s and carryover design into the 80s made these cars very easy to drive and incredibly smooth. Also the low HP for the size engine was to keep the V8 torque and drive but reduce HP to save on gas. My fifth got like 25 mpg hwy miles which is pretty impressive for such a large engine.
Righti still have my 85 caprice 14 years and counting
I bought a 1988 Fifth Avenue in the late 90's for my son to drive to school, and at first, he ...hated it! Old man car! Old man car!! Is all he said about it. It was navy blue, with a gun metal grey half " puff " top. Crush velvet seats, and VERY clean! You couldn't even here it run! Someone said earlier it was like riding on a cloud. Absolutely! Drove it a couple hundred miles, for his silly ass, to see this other car, I started driving, and after about 40 miles, he wanted to drive. At first, I said HELL NO! Old man car,.. remember?!? But I said fine, and stopped at a gas stop. He got behind the wheel, got that electric seat going, set, and we were on our way. He set the cruise, and we began to float down the highway. About 25 miles later, we stopped again. Sat there for a minute, and he turned around, and headed back home! He started talking about what wheels he was going to put on it, and on and on! He drove that car, all three years of HS, and his first two years of college. He ended up selling it to one of his friends, and bought himself an SUV. Nowadays, he wishes he didn't sell it. Toll ya!
Chryslers are some of the worst cars around. but they look awesome.
The low hp was because american manufacturers had zero innovation to meet emissions. Honda was doing innovative design with their cvcc in the 1970s.
Ugly bug eyed crossovers won't be seen much in 40 years time, except in a museum of horrors.
Yet they still look a lot cooler than the SUVs you can buy today
Some yes. That POS 3000...not so much.
Still preferring faux wood and chrome over dull gray plastics. As long as this stuff holds up which it obviously does.
@floron7777they aren't practical though...
@floron7777 no they aren't lol
@floron7777 You keep saying they are because you know that if you search up the European equivalent you will regret everything you said
Are new cars any different? Today's cars are complete junk.
Today's cars are throwaway cars. The stuff from the 1970's and 1980's are rebuildable old school. A 1970 Cadillac can run over most of the modern crap they make today and keep on going.
@@ericknoblauch9195 finally I found somebody that agrees with me
Back then that was top of the line and easy to work on not like today
What... The 1960s cars were easy and powerful. This was incredibly overcomplicated for the time with tons of emissions equipment no one had ever seen before
Yeah it's easy to work on!... Once you remove all the emissions garbage cluttering the engine bay. Fair enough once you do that they got a fair bit of power though.
@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge they still had r*tarded timing, bad cams, poor compression, and ran poorly on new gas. Horrible era for cars in terms of power
@@bldontmatter5319 For the US probably. For Japan and Europe it was pretty much the golden age. Hell I think my late 80s Peugeot with a 1.4 litre has more power than V8s from that era.
@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge yes. Less emissions requirements. The Cadillac 500 (8.2L engine) made something like 140 hp (but 400+ torque)
Laughable.
Me: Hey mom can we have Doug Demuro?
Mom: No, we have Doug Demuro at home.
Doug Demuro at home:
His voice is the quirk, the car is the feature
Gadgets and Gizmos > Quirks and Features
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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😂😂
This is why youtube needs to bring back dislike numbers.
Dislike app
Agreed
april 8 2024
10k dislikes
thank me later
They won’t because people feelings are to sensitive and they think it’s rigged against them
Yea, why did they do away with it?
This dude is a 2000's baby, aint no way he said 70's and 80's cars were the worst....
I got the same car in the picture, same color and interior even and I love it aside from stupid electronic feedback carburetors and lean burn that mopar did back then
He's got to be a 90s & up kid!😮
I'm 42. My first car was an '88 LeBaron. You have to admit, modern cars run so well. I daily a '97 nissan pickup but have a '20 mustang gt premium in the garage. That 460 horse on sport+ mode is a little monster. If you took it back 20 years it would be almost supercar status.
@@kryptism I'd say late 90's if anything.
@@senorpepper3405 2000 baby here.
I own 2 classic vehicles and a motorcycle.
This guy is capping.
Because that was grandmas car and she didn’t need more than 150hp
She also didn't need a 5L V8 so what's your point?
@@jkacvbhijfnthose engines ran extremely
Smooth. Kept Grandma from vibrating to climax on the way to church so no guilt
Yea but the gas, 5L must drink allot
@@francisconikotian2326 back in the 70s gas was dirt cheap. Nobody cared then
@@jean-lucpicard3012 gas was not dirt cheap, in fact, that’s why the car only had 150 horses
The worst era of cars is actually what we’re headed into shortly.
Well said
agreed
Facts
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I think we're already in it, manufacturers are slowly not even selling cars anymore. It's all going to be SUVs and trucks
these cars actually held up very well. Its still not uncommon to see these things still rolling in great shape. I just detailed a very clean one recently
Besides rust. They did not like living in salted roads.
@@volvo09 That's probably why I don't see these at all. I'm on the east coast.
@@42luke93 same, they're all gone... I never see them.
These cars were 10y old when I was a kid in the 80's and my dad had 2 of them that I remember had rotted floors, on top of extreme rocker panel rust (floors so bad that the carpet was holding your feet up).
My dad actually drove one of these for the majority of his life and my childhood, I don't ever remember it even breaking down once. Literally.
BUT- THOSE DAMN LEATHER SEATS IN HEIGHT OF SUMMER 🥵 OR DEAD OF WINTER 🥶 WERE THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD TO SIT ON!!!!! You were for sure getting a burnt or frozen ass.
i said the same...
If you think that the 70's and 80's were the worst years for cars, just keep in mind that our generation has the Cybertruck.
You just explained why that car is an absolute beauty.
Weird taste on you...
Right. Literally no different than bashing fashion from the 70’s and 80’s. It’s what people wanted, it’s what people got. He acts like a Lexus IS-F was supposed to randomly pop up in 1984…
they are beautiful!
@@TermlessHGW no you have weird taste!
@@mflow3030 Compared to what the Japanese and Germans were making in that era, American cars were a decade behind at least
I love 70s American land yachts, the boxy style and colourful interiors have always looked super cool to me.
Same. This guy is a bozo and has no clue what he’s talking about.
Check out the 77 Lincoln Thunderbird
I agree
Pimp whip
Dont ever let this guy talk about cars again
Kids a punk and a nasty one
Agreed and if I was running UA-cam he would be banned
He should think before he speaks..
He can't even hold a candle to Doug DeMuro 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@P00katubeand Doug can’t hold a candle to Bill from Curious Cars.
"The worst era of US cars" *shows one of the better cars produced during that time*
@@StopDropandLOL it's an M body the same chassis that's used for the Diplomat which many people loved.
They were used as police cars back in the day. They’re affordable, a v8 rwd body on frame car . It doesn’t take much to build them as the ultimate sleeper. Middle finger salute
AMEN! I put $12000 of work into my beauty! That's a double middle finger salute from both of us.
With roughly $3500 in work (suspension, exhaust and top end mostly) you can get over 400hp out of the engine and boil the tires with that unkillable torqueflite 727 trans (even if it's an A908 it's still practically indestructible). And look like a boss doing it.
@@smellsuperb1I have that 727 transmission in my truck with over 390,000 miles on it. Can't kill the thing, even though I've pulled full size truck camper loaded on and a loaded trailer at the same time. Only thing I've had to do is replace the seal on the kickdown input shaft where it was leaking fluid, and that was 12 years ago, still putting at least 50 miles a day on it.
I have. 1984 Chrsyler fifth avenue and ive been wanting to do a sleep build with it, any advice or websites to buy from. Its having some problems starting too right now. So im replacing the fuel pump. Unfortunately theres not a lot of youtube videos i can find on this car lol. Bought the car as a late 20th birthday gift for myself last year lol
@@isaacmorfinez-solis7432That series of vehicle is known for fuel pump and ignition problems, so you may want to update to a newer Mallory or MSD. Also check the fuel filter under the hood and in the tank. I don't remember if this has a fuel filter underneath the vehicle, I believe it's in the gas tank. Additionally anything you want to do to the drivetrain also would apply to the Dodge ramcharger, Dodge D series pickup, Plymouth Grand fury, Plymouth caravelle (Canada) and Dodge diplomat. It actually dates back to the m body Dodge St Regis and Chrysler Newport as well.
They're not crap. They're stylish, pimpy, comfortable, and actually hold up in a crash.
Modern cars are copy-paste, plastic crap.
Blib3786 you’re definitely a gen alpha kid ain’t these cars don’t look good
They are cool cars, but you have to admit that those have the worst engines. Not good performance but also not good fuel economy.
@rodney_d that? Absolutely. Total garbage. You'd had an era of American cars where the average full-size sedan weighed 4500 pounds but had a puny engine equivalent to that of a riding mower powering it.
Also, the front wheel drive layout didn't help. These cars would've been better without the emission controlled power limitations and rear-wheel drive pushing the car.
@@blib3786go look at some lowrider culture my man many are stylish "bricks"
@@rodney_dhow are they not fuel efficient that's the whole reason they were detuned from the factory.
Land yachts were awesome. Super comfortable and you could actually work on them.
Exactly. You didn't need a degree in computer engineering to work on them.
@@Normal1855 " are awesome" because we still drive them and love them very much. Love taking mine out and watch the heads turn because people drive ugly ass crossovers and forgot what class looks like
@@Normal1855 ODB2 is nice to be able to diagnose issues with the vehicle. But I tend to agree with you. If society ever collapses it's going to be the old cars that are most coveted. I saw a dude with a tractor from 1954 and he said he can fix it with parts from just about anywhere, where his million dollar John Deer thresher he worries if it'll be fixable in 20 years.
Oh and work on it you will🤣
Damn right
My 79 Cutlass can’t be driven more than half a mile without getting compliments. So as far as looks….he’s wrong. And as far as performance…..I drive it daily with original engine and original miles and NEVER have any issues with it at all lol
This is far from crap.
Some kid who wasn't even born. Nothing worse than a water cooled VW from the era
@@jclar3565 those are great imo
@@jclar3565 Explains why you dont see the T3 vans anymore
Ye. They are pretty good. And more reliable then what's being build nowadays (even from japanese and germans) all the electronics & sensors can brake easily.
I used to be an intern at a garage and there was an E-tron that had a not working AC just bcs of a broken sensor.
Personally would prefer to get an classic mini as daily. Bcs of its its rich history & parts are plenty and shells are still being made (im not lying)
@@generalsquirrel9548 you can't even find parts for a classic
The low horsepower is because they just laid down emission regulations out of nowhere in that era, so they basically took the current engines and choked them to death, that’s why so many American cars and muscle cars had such low hp then the ones that came before and after them in that era.
Also, they actually had quite a bit of horsepower. The official ratings were at lower rpm's, probably because of the emission's crap. But most of the v8's from the 70's can actually put out well over 200hp.
My Pilot and my Impala SS have the same rated horsepower
Facts... And most of that was done by using smaller restrictive carburetors and if it was fuel injected at the time they were using restrictive intakes and exhaust. I bet You can open up at least 40 horsepower by changing intake and exhaust
they dropped the compression ratio to 8.5 from 10.5 killing the horsepower so it would run on unleaded gas
@@procrastinatingnerd That 132hp 318 V8 also had a stout 265 ft-lbs of torque, peaking around 2000 rpm. It was a stout, reliable work horse engine, if not particularly fuel efficient.
There are millions of those engines still running.
They're not hard to hop up either; the '89-91 pre-Magnum heads, some larger valves, and a 4 barrel carb and intake will wake 'em up nicely. My brother built one in his truck to 500hp. It's cammed out, got headers, 340 heads, and a few other goodies.
Dude, drive one for awhile. Those 80's 5th Avenue were awesome. Lots of them still bombing around.
Listen. He was born in the year 2015. Nuff said! 😆
He has not a clue. Great old cars.
@@kelsycunningham8452 Amen
Floaters
@@kelsycunningham8452 love them old 5th Avenues, old 1985 Cadillac Eldorado and them old Ford LTD. Love them old cars.
I was born in 2005 and i fancy cars from the 1930-1980, even i wouldn’t say the old cars are trash, newer cars like the Prius looks like a toddler made it while the car your reviewing is elegant and sophisticated to the point where its a timeless piece of art like Mozarts music
I agree. I was born in 2006, but I definitely have a soft spot for older cars from any decade before the 2000s. I guess some modern cars from the 2000s and 2010s and the 2020s look and perform good but they will never compare to the good old classics.
I bought a new 85 Oldsmobile Delta 88. The last of the V-8 rear wheel drives. It was the most comfortable, dependable car I ever had.
And don't forget the pillow top seats that a person would melt into they were so comfortable. 👍
My daughter will be getting my 1983 Delta 88 when she's old enough to drive, if gasoline is still legal in 12 years.
@@andypostema4269 She will love it. Mine was rear ended and totaled.
The last of the V8 RWD cars were the Ford panther cars.
@@blib3786 I was speaking of the last Delta 88's with V8 rear wheel drives.
The low hp wasn't the cars fault it was the epa regulations that made the companies smog them down to death
*FACTS!*
And a change in measurement. HP at the flywheel is much higher than at the wheel, so most engines become lame overnight. They were also far too big and heavy for their own good
@@charlesc.9012 I wasn't around back then but thank God power started to go back up in the late 80s or so, I think. My dad had a 1978 camaro with a good 350 horses or so from the new motor that he put in it. Maybe a little more than 350 too, but either way, very good for 1978.
@@ryze9153 American engines always had huge torque too, and if the cars had smaller, narrower and lighter bodies, you would feel even more speed and power, especially in corners and poor weather
Exactly
Worst era of cars is RIGHT NOW! Those malaise era boats had so much style and class and personality modern trash will never TOUCH! Grow up and see what we’ve LOST! A tragedy
I'd agree if I were to take off my glasses and look at it from 10 kms away
Your opinion.
@@classicalhollywoodfilm8378not an opinion its facts
You couldn’t be more correct.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He’s right. My parents owned a new 1980 Chrysler station wagon. Mid 1981 the automatic transmission started to slip leaving my mom stranded on two occasions. But my dad was not giving up on the we live in America we buy American. So, he trades in the Chrysler for a 1985 Chevy Celebrity. Much better than the Chrysler and for about 7 years the car was very reliable. After that we started to experience serious ignition issues to the point it left both parents stranded on two occasions. Then mom put her foot down and said, let’s give a Japanese car a chance so they purchase a fully loaded Nissan Maxima. The car lasted 25 years with only routine maintenance. It was the last car my parents bought and was in the garage when my mom recently passed.
I'll let you slide a little bit since you're about 17 years younger than me, but I will proudly drive that over a modern Nissan Altima or any modern dink crossover.
Absolutely
Same here. Love the land yachts ❤
Me too
He didn’t say he wouldn’t make the same choice. Just explained the shortcomings and cut costs of american companies in the 80s, would you cant deny. Negative assumption
To be fair, Nissan is low hanging fruit.
Worst engines? Maybe. Worst cars? Absolutely not.
But the metal it's metal them wire rims. I think they were metal unlike today where it's all 99.99% plastic
Yeah bounce a new car like that and see what thaws off. Yeah that
The engines were detuned on purpose because of gas shortages and stricter emission regulations.
You couldn’t get better engines than that era. They’ll last forever. It saddens me how people truly lack knowledge about cars. Meanwhile, your bmw or Land Rover will be at the shop every week until you sell it for 95% of what you bought it for in 3 years.
@@JesusIsGoodTruth You could absolutely get better engines in that era. Anything pre 1972 is better than the boat anchors made until the late 80s.
“Waltuh, that’s my car Waltuh, you’re saying mean things about mah car Waltuh.”
Mike is gonna be pissed once he sees this video
@@lunantix Put your opinion away Waltuh
@allistergraham6704 you shut up !!!! WALTAH!
This comment didn't make me lol but it did make me lal (laugh a little)
This guy looks like he grew up on a Mom's SUV than a Grandpa's Land Yacht.
The worst era of cars, by far, is the one we’re in now. Fugly ass crossovers and mini suvs everywhere
Right suvs everywhere 90% of them ugly
He’s dosing Mike ehrmantrauts ride
@@DIESELBALLSthat’s Mike ehrmantrauts car
And the majority of parts/covers are made of plastic so they’re more prone to break/malfunction
El 5ta avenida es precioso, el Chevy 55, buscando modelos cada década tuvo autos hermosos
This kid has never picked up a wrench or car book ever in his life and it shows 😂😂
Skinny jeans ..................done.........
Maybe but these cars look crap. No wonder Japanese and German automakers were able to capture the American Market. Slow yet Gaz Guzzlers. Unnecessarily long. Those pop up headlights look ok when down but hideous when up. Current era is not best but it's way better than this bs.
Im 57 years old and theyr not skinny jeans jr. I wear the same pants and they are ultra comfortable over jeans.@@daleb5967
Those downsized M body Chryslers were some of the most solid cars you could buy in the 80’s…leaf spring rear suspension, Torsion bar front suspension ,LA V8 engines and A904 torqueflite transmissions…pretty much bulletproof. I always wanted a police package diplomat to drop a 71 demon spec-340 and 4 or 5 speed into…that engine would be a bolt in affair, and the manual trans conversion wouldn’t be too difficult either using A body parts.
One of the cars in my 'Motor Pool' for many years (1992-2004) was an '86 Plymouth Gran Fury AHB. (AHB= Police Package) This Fifth Avenue is the fancier version of that car. Actually was a quite reliable car,I drove it until I inherited a Crown Victoria (late fathers car) and sold the Fury. Guy I sold it to drove it 8-10 yrs himself until he sold it?
I was going to say that police package Diplomat with the 360 was very disappointing in the get up and go, and the top end departments both. The 340 would be a much better power plant.
Torsion bar??? Like m1 abrams torsion bar?
Agreed and these were totally better than the K-cars. Rwd and had engines that made more than 80 ho
@@censored4christ162 Like KV-1 tank torsion bar :D
The Japanese or German cars of the 70s and 80s were crappie when it comes to safety and comfortability while American cars were the luxury liners
“Walter, come with me Walter”
Just let me die in peace.
I had a guy You're not the guy
@@rockybarkington7282 😂
No more half measures
@@rockybarkington7282you're not that guy pal
Had a 87 New Yorker and I loved it
Peak emissions era garbage
I worked for a Chevrolet dealership in the parts dept so I got to see pretty much all the repair orders. we had a customer that had a 1977 Oldsmobile delta 88 that had only 16,000 miles on it. the car was owned by an elderly lady. I had the chance to talk to her about the car. She said that she would only drive 1-2 days a week and that she would drive around town. if she had to go anywhere else, she would have her daughter drive. that olds looked like it just rolled out of the showroom. it still had the bias ply tires, bias spare tire that never left the trunk, and all the "goodies" that came from the factory back when they still gave you things other than floormats.
That's sick man.
What?! Floor mats are usually a $250 option now.
Most upscale cars after 1975 came standard with radial tires. I remember my 1976 Pontiac Grand Prix having "radial turned suspension."
I had a '77 Delta 88 two door. It was a great freaking car and I could lay rubber from a stop light if I brake torqued it. 350 Chevy with a 350 TH trans. Bulletproof, comfortable, and looked great.
I had an 82 fifth avenue, one of the best cars I've ever owned...
He's too young to even know what he's talking about
If he doesn’t even know why cars in that era had such low horses he doesn’t know enough to talk crap about them
@@bassboss1234 I was thinking the same thing! Good thing he didn't review the Trans Am with 140 HP... 😂
With his squeaky voice...
Im 17 and think my 90s lincoln town car still looks better than modern cars😂
Well you do get a lot of clicks on your videos showing us these “crappy” cars…. I do love them. I love new and old cars and I don’t bash any!
I would take an old school ride over the plastic trash and electronical nightmare any day
@@japanwatchconnectionno, no there not.
@@slavaukraine5117They are objectively shity cars stop acting like a child
Trash car with a trash engine. No you would not.
But these were the early adopters of electronics so they had the most incompatible, crappiest electronics. Lots of different cables and complex mechanisms mixed in with early electronics. I agree with your point, but to avoid plastic trash and electronics, I think you’d have to go even earlier with cars.
@@japanwatchconnectionthe only real issue to worry about is gas, other than thay are pretty reliable👍
“That’s my car! Kid.” -Mike Ehrmantraut😂
And you think the 1984 Toyota Camry with 89HP was an awesome upgrade? I can tell you, it wasn't, at all.
It was more reliable and got better gas milage but whatever. Have fun with your 10 mpg and constant breakdowns.
Bro why do you expect diamond on a emblem ? 💀
Probably because hes comfortable with daddys money
@@noteddiee real
Why putting a fake diamond emblem? It would be better without any emblem.
Don't think anyone ever claimed or pretended it was a diamond, a crystal at best, which is basically 20% better glass.
Those 5th Avenue were great cars. Great comfort and you couldn't kill them.
The Timing Gear is the Achilles Heel on those 318 Engines, when the Sprockets wear they jump Timing so Drive it very carefully or replace the Timing Cain and Gears with a Cloyes brand timing set.
Mike Ehrmantraut drove one in Breaking Bad.
The Ignition Modules failed on every single one they ever made !
their only problem was the computerized carburetor "lean burn system". Those could be tricky to get right.
@@adotintheshark4848the carbs werent computerized it was vacuum controlled
This guy is totally unqualified for this
says a guy with zero content zero subs, zero credibility...🎤
I mean, he spit out straight facts here. Nostalgic as these cars might be to some, they were crap and led to Japanese automakers gaining a foothold in the US market
@@LuxeprivaeMedia no offense but you have no car content whatsoever but I'm just a viewer no hate btw
Nah he’s correct bro idk what ur on? Are you okay??
@@LuxeprivaeMediaroblox content :|
Awe man.. memories. I had purchased me a very good condition 86’ Chrysler fifth avenue back in summer 1998. I had the all leather seats with the white fur like carpet. Installed a 12” JL audio subwoofer hooked to an Alpine v-12 amp, Eclipse front and back speakers, kenwood tweeters and front speakers ran off my Rockford fosgate amp… Man, and that car NEVER gave me any problems!
Worst? Nothing this guy posts is based on facts. I just shake my head most of the time. All unusual opinions and bias. If this is the worst, how is a 1994 Tahoe the best SUV ever made? Also this era brought about many advancements we use today (fuel injection).
Talk about quality, i live in Canada in the rust belt and see these cars driven around daily. Quite a few Fifth Avenues, Diplomats and Caravelles. 500,000km on a tuned down 318 is not hard to do and would require little maintenance. How many imports from that era are still on the road??? I see many of these "worst era" cars still kicking around (Ford, Chrysler, GM). 40 years old and still working. Also, people bough these... must have liked something about them....
Most 80's Japanese cars still on the road look like they were just pulled from a junkyard lol.
Cars back then had to be low horse power for emissions. The styling on those cars is straight up almost first class. They are RWD platform so that instantly makes it better. Compared to alot of modern cars, these are very reliable and easier to work on. Need to bring these cars back
German and Japanese engines from the same era made significantly more power with half the displacement
@@Vanya2893it is not about horse power in those cars, it's about low end torque and reliability which the 318 had mountains of.
@@Vanya2893and broke down more often and cost 3 times as much new and to repair!!!
Yeah and all the American ones had actual, solid FRAMES. It wasn't a unibody construction like the European and Japanese makes were
@@Jeff-bd5yo unibody isn't too bad if you can keep up on maintaining it and you're in just like an economy car/grocery getter. Solid frames are much simpler to reinforce, fix and or modify.
Muscle cars of the 70's were badass some of the best cars ever made
More like 60s
Nah man, 5th avenues are awesome. Rip out the emissions crap and you’ve got enough hp to cruise comfortably like it was intended
you weren't born yet, but those cars were beautiful off the line youngin.
Lol. Right! He's probably tooling around in his gray or silver government mobile
No body was driving around with real wire wheels, except jaguar. This guy thinks the new civic is geourgous.....
Ok grandpa, time for your medicine
@@thegoldencpu5870💀
2002 kid here, I agree
Had that exact model. Would happily go back to it too.
I love my fifth ave thank you! stupid reliable super comfy decent gas mileage 23mpg highway and you win any traffic accident. and I love vinyl roofs
Bump the timing up until it starts to tick then back it off until the ticking goes away and it will be a weapon. Also dump the leanburn system and cat if it has it
Yessss! My dad had one of these for most of his life and when growing up, legit never broke down that I can remember.
Dad had a jet black 5th Avenue. The most comfortable seats in the world, in beautiful bright red leather!
@@codyburke990 lol. It's not so easy to dump the lean burn. You have to know what your doing.
@@styldsteel1 not hard at all to wire up mopar electronic ignition
My dad drove a 86 fifth avenue. Car was a dream to drive. Never been in a car as comfortable. Never broke down. Learned to drive on it. These cars had class. Now all our cars are cold and soulless. This dude is way off base.
I'd honestly rather take that old brick over what we're being offered today.
You say crap, I say nostalgia. I miss my 88 Caddy.
VW caddy?
They stopped making them in the States in 83.
@@pingapong64 A Cadillac. Caddy is a common nickname of saying Cadillac for short.
This is what electric cars and reddits love for Elon has done to the average nerd, they look at anything old and hate it because “No technology, no aerodynamics, bad car”
Mike from Breaking Bad 🧪 called...
he would like his car back!
People hate on mid to late 70s cars and 80s cars so much but yet they are still more luxurious than cars nowadays
Not really, a modern luxury car offer seats which are just as comfortable and is faster.
My pickup is more luxurious than anything built before 2010, and more luxurious than most luxury cars built today.
@@garyszewc3339But driving a pickup isn't luxurious though, it's a gilded farm tool. Kind of like a gold plated shovel.
@@mattwolf7698 actually malaise era (1974-1984) car seats and suspension give the cars a ride that's more comfortable than modern cars (btw I speak from experience I've been in 2 Oldsmobile cutlass coupes)
You are wrong. There were some great cars on the 80s
Most bad ones though
It was an awful era for hp and fit and finish. But they were super comfortable and sturdy as hell!
Note: I am not conflating “sturdiness” with safety. I am well aware a modern car is safer in a crash.
"Boat cars" need to come back. Period.
Um, it's a mid sized car.
@@styldsteel1 not by today's standards.
I'm mostly referring to the "floating" nature of these and the large bodies and trunks, with body-on-frame design.
I spend enough on gas and it's hard enough to park in a city
@@styldsteel1 that is actually true the Fifth Avenue, Grand furry, early m body new yorker, lebron and diplomat were even smaller than the Ford Crown Vic and Chevrolet Caprice at the time
I wish America made cars like these still. Everybody wants ugly crossovers nowadays.
These cars are the reason why Japanese cars took over America lmao
exacly crossovers cant even offroad even though they look like they can
Not Just Bikes made a video about this
There was nothing good about these cars beyond appearance.
@@Psythik said no one ever.
As an owner of an 84 Buick station wagon... The fake woodgrain inside and out, the 140hp 5.0L, the plastic trim that rots away.... It's all awful and I absolutely love it!
I have a 79 Olds wagon that's probably very similar. It came from the factory with 185 hp and 325 ft/lbs of torque. Not stellar for 6.6 liters, but all I had to do was let it breath easier to get it closer to 230 and 375. Still not a race car, but for 2 1/4 ton car with a 3 ton towing capacity, it has to be doing SOMETHING right in the power department. I'd love to see one of the newer unibody cars towing a double axle Air Stream at 70mph. I just don't want to be on the road near it while it was happening.
Your Buick very likely has an Olds 307 V8 (I believe it was the only 5.0 ltr V8 available for it). There is a high output version of that engine that came in 83-87 Hurst Olds and 4-4-2 Cutlass, 86-early 88 Cadillac Brougham. It's the LG8 engine it produced upwards of 180hp and 245 ft/lbs of torque. When cruising through the junkyard, you're looking for engine VIN code "9". It's a pretty impressive "little" engine, especially considering the era in which it was built. You don't have to change your entire engine though, just grab the heads and push rods off an LG8 (you may have to modify your intake manifold runners to match the head ports, or just grab the intake manifold off the LG8), get a cam shaft from a mid 70s Olds 350, a fresh set of lifters and timing chain and gears, put larger fuel flow metering rods in the secondary's on your existing Quadrajet, and put a larger diameter pipe true dual exhaust on the car and you'll be real close. The hardest part will be finding those heads for less than an arm and a leg.
Or you could grab a late 60's or early 70s Olds 455 (7.5 ltr). It'll drop right in the existing space and bolt right up to the frame and transmission just like the 307 (sans computer controls that is, but your Quadrajet can be modified to feed that big block). That'll get you to somewhere in the low 300 to closer to 400 hp, and upwards of 500 ft/lbs of torque and I promise you'll have the quickest station wagon in your neighborhood. There may be an air cleaner to hood clearance problem so be prepared for that, and you'll need a much larger radiator (Summit has an aluminum 4 core radiators at reasonable prices), and I'd highly recommend getting a TH200-4R transmission (like the one you have) that was built for high performance applications. The stock transmission isn't going to last long behind all that power. I don't know about the Buicks, but the Olds wagons came with large, limited slip, "P" axles for many years, and they can handle the power of the big block as long as you're not seriously abusing it (which you may find difficult to resist doing once you have all that power) but any rear end will fail from serious abuse. Keep in mind, motor mounts, transmissions and torque converters, driveshafts, and tires are easy to ruin in this configuration, and ExxonMobil will probably start sending you Christmas cards as a thank you for buying so much fuel, so keep your head on right. :)
Probably more than you ever wanted to know about it, but the topic landed on something I have experience with and I had to share. ;)
My dad had an '88 Caprice Classic Wagon with the same 5.0 307 Olds V8, his wasn't as luxurious as yours but it had fake woodgrain and was every bit as practical!
“70s and 80s are crap” bro just went against every car I stand for💀
Anything that old still on the road ain’t that bad. Back then, you could’ve spent 3 times more for an even slower Mercedes 380SEL though! Or twice as much for a 240D at least with its 23 second 0-60 time 🤣.
And good luck finding a Benz or a BMW of that Era still on the road. Usually they'll need basically an entire rebuild, yet people still praise them for whatever reason
240d’s may be slow but you paid for quality. Many many still around chugging there way through time
@@TFLclassics not nearly as many as old American cars.
@@williamsinger4124 lmao here in Europe they’re everywhere still
@@TFLclassics
I’m a tech and rarely see these old Benz slugs anymore.
This young guy should appreciate this car he was probably conceived in one! 🤔
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😂LOL, Right on James.
I had some '80s and 90s Buick LeSabre they got anywhere from 21 to 31 miles per gallon. They all held up beautifully into the two to three hundred thousand mile range. Those were a nice value for dollar vehicle.
90s Buicks are the best. Even some early 2000s were great quality. I’ve got an ‘04 Park Avenue and it’s a great car
My parents had a couple 90s Buick LeSabres and they were quite smooth on crappy Michigan Roads. Only reason they got rid of them is because during winter of like 2014 some frayed wires caused something to short out and start a fire. I remember hearing a small explosion only to see my dad dumping snow on top of the engine to put out the fire.
Still has more character than latest prius
I have no idea what I'm talking about!
Fixed the title for you.
Salty much 😂
Agreed
My first thought.
exactly my friend he does not at all
Salty boomer here
Those cars are way better than the plastic cars now and they had less horse power because they were aiming for comfort and smoothness of the ride
Today cars have crumple zones are designed to shatter. They are far more safer. Cars back then sometimes required the jaws of life because you be crunched in metal
@dougfisher1813 yeah but they use carburetors jus spewing gas ineffectively
Nah they just look better
They have less power because of the fuel crisis and emission controls, manufacturers hadn't figured out how to work with those mandates yet.
I absolutely love that era of cars. The 318 has so much potential, and doesn't cost a lot to get it there. I even like the K cars quite a bit
Man this guy has no idea what class and elegance is, sure would they lack in horsepower do they make up an Elegance comfort fuel economy for the most part and when you're in the city you couldn't ask for better
Ladies and gentlemen, I present, jealousy.
😂😂😂😂
This kid is not lying though. Those care are horrible. You can't compare them to a mercedes benz from the same era. These things handle like a watered, they were slow while gulping fuel.
@@implive17have you driven these kinds of cars?
@@implive17 I haven't seen a Mercedes from that era for 20 years. But I still see these M body Chryslers on the road today. I still even see several 1980's Ram trucks every day.
I see it here, but what’s in the video?
Tell me you’re a zoomer without telling me you’re a zoomer:
As a Gen Z, I still think this era of American cars had some of the best cars, I'd love to buy a land yacht like a 70s Continental, something about the era is just pleasing. Might be crap in some places, but it looks and feels like luxury, and there's just something about it that feels right. Also, they still run, so that's a plus.
This guy looks like he's in his thirties though
This guy ain’t a zoomer, I’m one and I find classics like this cool lol
@@HawkEM2I have a ‘71 Continental Mark III with 53,000 miles and it’s all original. It feels so substantial with everything you do. I think the Mark III was the best generation they made because it was made before emissions compliance was a thing so it’s rated for 365 horsepower. It was also built incredibly well.
@@dawson674 That's good power even if the cars heavy. Definitely wanna drive one it sounds like a good experience
"Worst cars ever:
Startup to hate on a classic"
This guy deserves all lifeless plastic suvs
Cars today have ZERO personality. I admit, '90s cars had very plasticy interiors but they also didn't cost as much as a starter home, either.
What pisses me off is that you can't just go to the dealership and buy a basic pickup truck. They are all LOADED with options and cost 60 to 70k. I guess if people buy them it's what they build.
This ain't a classic my guy, never was and never will be. There's a reason this era of cars is referred to as the Malaise Era.
funny y'all talk about plastic nowadays like pontiac wasnt using ABS for door skins, fenders, and entire cars back in the 80s.
Bruh this is ass wdym
You don’t know a damned thing. You never had to joy in owning a 70/80s era car.
Hes trippin old American cars are amazing, the europeans probably paid him to make this short.💀
My parents LOVED their 87 Fifth Avenue with everything but a sunroof. Even had the handling package. Great road trip car. They had it for 21 years and 140 miles
Wow they didn't drive much
@@jeffman3 sorry for the typo, should be 140K
@@davidspera7548 I figured, my inner wiseass just couldn't help himself 🤣👍🏻
Back when American cars were comfortable to drive and roomy. When the government got involved deeply into the Car industry, performance fell.
Not all were bad. The 98s, Caprice Classics Buick Electras Caddies and many more were good in the 70s. Chrysler was not so hot. 80s cars still had plenty of good ones.
Those were the cars that produced back inthe 80's, with fuel restrictions dictated by the government. But those cars were so comfortable, silent, and had a very soft ride.
That car will outlast any other car your talking about
These cars exist because that's what customers wanted back then. It's like judging someone who wore bell bottoms in the 70s because it's 2024. Back then, like bell bottoms, cars that looked like this is what people wanted, and they blended in with all of the other vinyl topped cars.
That particular car there has been very well kept over the years. It's in remarkable cosmetic shape for its age.
One thing I can definitely say about American cars of the 70's and 80's is they were a lot more comfortable than the Japanese equivalents and even more comfortable than new cars being made today. To be honest, I miss well cushioned seats, and especially front bench seats.
"Your engine oil pressure is low"
"Your keys are in the ignition"
"The door is ajar"
Anyone remember??
Yes, remember that talking car.
It was fun to watch the owners argue that the door was not a G.d Da.n Jar.
"Please remember to buckle your seatbelt"
what car??
@@bentleynorton6843 80s Chryslers (I think the new Yorker) and some gm products also 80s
He talks about crap about the build quality on a car that's probably every bit of 40 years old and it's still around and still pretty solid
That's all the hp you need to cruise at the national speed limit of 55 mph.
And power could easily be improved if you felt it necessary.
They lowered the speed limit cause the cars couldn't exceed 55 mph
@@ricepile1343You are dumb. That wasn't even a funny joke.
@@ricepile1343You don't know what you are talking about. That was done in the early 70's because of the fuel crisis.
I wouldn’t expect Tommy to understand nor appreciate vehicles from this time period he’s too young. This actually wasn’t the worst. And these Chryslers were very popular and durable vehicles. They even used them for police cars
How come we don’t see any Japanese cars from the 70’s and 80’s today? Maybe they were just junk!
I agree I had a 80 Toyota Corolla 5 Speed I don't think it ever out run anything. It wasn't a very good ride compared to my Dads old Chrysler Newport. We called it the yellow submarine. It just floated around so comfortable.
There are still a lot of Toyota small trucks form the 80's around. But, a lot of Amreican trucks, too.
The reason we don't see any Japanese cars left from that time is because people just drove them until they died or rusted out, most of them made it well past their life expectancy and lasted way longer than any non-fullsize American cars (especially Toyota, Subaru, and Honda) they weren't junk at all. I was still seeing quite a few of them still on the road throughout the mid 00's up until Obama's cash for clunkers BS.
@@lastotallyawesomebleach204 Agreed. They weren't junk. The reason small cars last so long is that they are light and don't wear out their moving parts as fast as heavy vehicles. Doors hinges, suspension parts, shocks, tires brakes clutches etc. Most Japanese interiors were very well put together compared to the pitifully cheap construction in American vehicles of the 80's.
I've driven so many used vehicles I can't remember, but I lose count at 40 over 55 years of driving. All well used. Not all well l taken care of. My opinion is that American trucks were never as bad as they have been portrayed to be, but after 1978, the cars were pretty crappy with a few exceptions. The Governmenrt was to blame for alot of the problems associated with the lax quality as the Big 3 were forced to make EPA fuel emmission and mileage standards. The industry simply was not tooled to build samll cars with the same robustness of bigger cars, and so, out came the lame K-cars from Mopar and the X-cars for GM. I can't even remember what Ford shoved out the door.
The trucks remained pretty good, though.
People didn't view Japanese cars as classics/future classics at the time and didn't think it was worth repairing them when they were 15-20 years old. Also wages went farther back then, by the time someone's Civic needed a big repair they might have thought it was better to buy a new car. Also these cars were owned by a lot of elderly people which didn't put a ton of miles on them.
Those were great cars. That 318 motor is bulletproof. The worst cars ever were from 2000-2014.
Bullet proof only when you replace the original timing chain and dears with a Cloyes Timing Set !
@@lilibethdoherty295 I have a 1984 Dodge Ram W100 with over 400,000 miles on it with the 318 motor, still running great, never had to change the timing chain.
Chrysler must have beefed up the original design in the later years of production just like Ford when they tried nylon timing gears that proved disastrous. The low end torque makes the 318 a pleasure to drive, the 360 seems to make torque at a higher RPM and as soon as you touch the accelerator it's right there on the 318,@@Robert-mz9hi
This was a good rebuildable car and very nice to drive. It's not the best, but not the worst either. They were made during the gas shortage in the 80's.
Obviously this guy has no idea. If he only set once for a few hours on a road trip in one of these , he would understand 😂. You can keep your toyotas , ill take this over them any day
Silver or gray government compliant Toyotas?? 😂. He was born in the year 2015. That's the kind of review I expected.
@@styldsteel1 😂 you are right
@@Emilthehun 😂😂 thanks
Imagine wanting to drive american cars 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
When I was a kid I used to get sea-sick in my Grand parents Lincoln Continental.
Young kids today don’t have a clue about good cars.
Today’s cars are just plain vanilla. The 80’s cars had style.