The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - The Gilgamesh Epic
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Dr. Michael Sugrue earned his BA at the University of Chicago and PhD at Columbia University.
RIP Professor you were more than a treasure to earth.
😢😢😢
If and when I ever open a dive bar it’s absolutely going to be called The Cosmic Barmaid.
This lecture was epic. The only thing it’s missing is a microphone to drop at the end.
RIP professor. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
I remember this one. My first introduction to you.
RIP Professor Michael Sugrue. ❤
I started speaking like this guy when I explain things to my kids lol. Thank you!
This man is simply amazing. His mastery of all the topics he tackles is incredible. He has this special ability to elucidate highly sophisticated ideas and convey them in a digestible manner. You can’t stop listening to his lectures. Glad to know that he is still alive.
He's a university lecturer. It's his job.
@@metalcomposition Name a university lecturer today who has as broad a base of knowledge as Mr. Sugrue and who can speak coherently on it? If so, please link me to them. His kind simply doesn't exist anymore
@@gocoastal1988 broad being the key word. This lecture offers nothing intellectually. It’s standard academic self flagellation. Notice how in the comments no one actually has anything to say.
@@Cfb8402 that may be true, but for most people (me included) even broad strokes about these subjects can be enriching. also, if you could give an example of a lecturer that offers something intellectually, as you put it, i would appreciate it. i dont mean to come across as confrontational, i'm new to this area of interest and would genuinely like to delve deeper.
@@KBBali hi. I listened to it again while running errands to see if I had been unfair in my assessment, but I stand by what I said. I’ll answer your question with a question: if you find my comment unfair, what about this lecture sparked intellectual curiosity within you? If you would like recommendations, which topic would you like?
may god bless his soul, the man who made me understand philosophy
What a gifted person he is. Amazing flow of thoughts and speech 🎉
I also just came across the "Premodernist" channel on youtube. Remarkably similar delivery of fascinating history
HOLY CRAP YOU HAVE A UA-cam CHANNEL NOW?!? YES
This man's an amazing teacher.
Just watched the Marcus Aurelius lecture; am very excited to watch this and later lectures that you post!
Glad to hear it! The lecture on Shakespeare: Measure for Measure will be up in a few hours.
@@dr.michaelsugrue I have listened to your Marcus Aurelius lecture ten times in the past year and a half since I’ve found it.
Thank you. I’m grateful for your work.
@@dr.michaelsugrue quid pro quo, you may enjoy our video on the most important (and accordingly the most famous and most quoted) words ever written in English language: the "to be or not to be..." speech from Hamlet. ua-cam.com/video/7R5_r2jN1fo/v-deo.html
@@dr.michaelsugrue Thank you for these uploads. I appreciate that you do not inject any politics or bias into your lectures.
@@dr.michaelsugrue please upload more lectures, i loved your Marcus Aurelius lecture
I only just discovered -- _no Wikipedia entry?!_ -- Prof. Michael Sugrue.
_"How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings..."_
Looking Back
1:12 The Bible felt like a work of Another Age
1:51 _The Epic Of Gilgamesh_ informs reading of The Bible
3:25 Versions handed down in ancient languages; absorb and adapt
4:47 Epic Tradition
Politics, Ethics, Physics
5:23 Most of society is illiterate, so it is an Oral Tradition
6:18 Epic’s have Journey, Cultural Hero/Moral Paragon. Legitimizes Political Powers.
8:03 Beloved of God/s
8:39 Uruk
9:07 Outside the walls; seeing Ink’idu
10:03 Dreams of a Meteor
10:44 Taming 11:24 Sex-Religion-Society
⚔️ -> Mutual Respect ✊✊
Fight The Monster Umbaba/Huwawa
14:07 Dreams, message from Spirit World
15:06 Ishtar rejected by Gilgamesh 16:11 Send down his misfortune, 7 years of famine, earthquakes
17:12 Divine Frustration
18:07 Inki’du sickens and dies
18:37 Curse Her! Better to die as a man within than an animal outside
19:29 “I’m going to die.”
20:30 King Hukapishkam & His Wife
21:57 Scorpion Men, A Cosmic Bar Maid
23:13 Crossing The Waters of Death
24:00 All Must Face Death
25:04 Sleep is Symbolic Death
26:38 Tell him about Eternal Life
27:29 Plant of Eternal Life 🌱
The Snake ate The Eternal Life 🌱 🐍
29:01 Superior People Die
30:03 Biblical Themes
Eve, Temple Harlot
Ishtar/Gilgamesh -> Divine/Man
31:51 The Self
Myth and History
32:44 Umbaba, what was he really?
33:47 Goliath
34:47 Promise
36:09 It’s hard to talk to The Boss of Polytheism
36:55 [Redacted]
38:14 All Is One
39:04 Big Picture
39:40 Epic Tradition & The Bible
40:09 Hero
40:27 Journey, Obstacles/Ordeals
41:07 Quest For The Valuable
41:37 Learning Pains
42:01 The Homecoming
42:21 Triumph of The Sacred
42:55 Chosen People - Collective Hero
Exodus - Start of a Journey
44:05 Providential Moving
45:20 Epic of Moral Self-Invention
Thank You! 💞🥺
U deserve a sub for your service
Excellent work!
Thank you Dr. Sugrue, very excited to see you posting content.
Ya the lectures are great, his progeny (T Sugrue) is posting these I believe
Dr. Sugrue could you please make more playlists on your channel so it's easier to watch a series in the correct order?
Also: Thank you for uploading these, they are very informative and enjoyable.
You can create your playlist, if you do, please share :)
I hope this is not too late! Put, "In Order" into your search parameters. Great topic for Atheists! I only wish there were a god! then we could get rid of fascist politicians like Rump and the Repugnant-KKK-kins. Bring back democracy to America. All saints preserve us!
Part I, Lectures-- The Gilgamesh Epic; Genesis- Introduction to Biblical Study; Exodus- Toward the Law; Job and the Problem of Evil; Isaiah- Swords into Plowshares; Matthew- The New Law; Luke and Acts- From Jerusalem to Rome; John- The Unbroken Net of Scripture; The Pauline Tradition; Revelation and the Eschaton; Augustine and the Christian Self; Meister Eckhart- From Whom God Hid Nothing. Part II, Lectures-- Justice and Poetry- Dante's Book of the Dead; Ugolino- Dante's Last "Sympathetic Sinner"; Cantos I & II of Purgatorio- Typology and Poetry; Utopia- Between Heaven and Earth; Luther and the Reformation; Shakespeare- Measure for Measure; Milton- Paradise Lost; Hume, Swift, and the Collapse of Deism; Kierkegaard's Leap of Faith; Dostoyevsky's The Idiot and the Book of Revelation; Nietzsche and the Death of God; Joyce- From Religion to Art
@@gregorygarcia7807 Some casuistic incontinence happening here. Republicans are not the KKK, nor are they fascists. Trump is a cartoon: laughable and grotesque, but ultimately a feckless pretender. The actual threat to reason and democracy is the ideological tsunami of Wokeism engulfing us as the identity profiteers and language launderers of the radical Left release their bladders all over Western civilization. They are the true authoritarians, and Trump is the monster summoned in response to their delusional and incoherent cultish incantations, and now used strategically to justify their own vindictive, revanchist crusade.
@@willmercury This is also my take as a non-American.
The view you replied to seems to be due to many American news companies form an echo chamber together. It's easy to see how media like tv and internet are the shadows on the wall in Plato's Cave allegory.
What I found is when fact checking rigorously mainstream media has stuff wrong a lot of the time (when they bother giving their sources). Also many issues, that get presented, get described wrongly and therefore the solution presented to the viewer often makes things worse.
Objectivity is dead in legacy media is my conclusion. It's sad but seems like a product of the internet revolution, making cable a dying industry which can pushes companies to adapt, often resulting in shady practices.
"You never find revolutionary epics." I submit that William Blake's The Four Zoas, Jerusalem and Milton would be the rare exceptions to this rule.
This guy is just a freak of nature. I absolutely love your channel. Thank you!
Whoever is running this page thank you so much
Wonderful timing that youve decided to begin posting your work.
This channel is an absolute gem. Forever thankful for your uploads.
Absolutely loving your lecture series, thank you for sharing oh wise one !!
Honestly the best channel I’ve watched in a while :) so happy I found it
Just discovered your channel and I have to say it is astounding and very informative.
Thank you for sharing these very valuable lectures. I am very grateful.
Just finishing The Great Courses Lectures via Audible on Plato, Socrates, and the Dialogues and Dr. Sugrue was fantastic. I'm really hoping the missing lectures from The Bible and Western Culture become available on here as I am unable to find them anywhere else.
Thank you Dr. for your insights. You’re appreciated!
Thank you so much for all your work
Thank you for this wonderful video Michael Sugrue.
The breadth of this man’s knowledge and the clarity of his delivery are astounding! I am in awe of Dr Sugrue!
Thank you for these excellent lectures!
thanks for uploading your engaging content.
Epic lecture,
epic lecturer,
epic tie.
Just found this channel and it's bloody amazing, this dude is top notch
I am so psyched to have found this channel. Looking forward to working through every lecture. Go Lions!
@Michael Kean I am humbled by your manliness and eloquence. Thank you for this opportunity to practice my compassion.
@Michael Kean You might want to try and wrap your head around a pretty simple concept. “Go Lions” is not about athletics at all, it is about celebrating a common educational and cultural heritage. It is about being fortunate enough to have attended one of the best universities in the world while also living in one of the most exciting cities in the world, New York City. Your comments, meanwhile, demonstrate your bitterness and resentment, and it is exactly these feelings that make and keep you unhappy, not the other way around. I feel compassion towards you because you seem not to understand any of this. Get well and be well.
@Michael Kean watch the Marcus Aurelius lecture.
Thank you so much for posting these amazing lectures. I am a Catholic always searching to learn more about my faith, from different points of view and disciplines. I have watched some of the lectures already while keeping track of it. I was wondering if you could upload the missing lectures? Thanks a lot.
Lecture 1. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - The Gilgamesh Epic
Lecture 2.?
Lecture 3.?
Lecture 4. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Job and the Problem of Evil
Lecture 5. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Isaiah: Turning Swords into Plowshares
Lecture 6. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Matthew: The New Law
Lecture 7. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Luke and Acts: From Jerusalem to Rome
Lecture 8. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - John: The Unbroken Net of Scripture
Lecture 9. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - The Pauline Tradition
Lecture 10.?
Lecture 11. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Augustine and the Christian Self
Lecture 12. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 2 - Meister Eckhart: From Whom God Hid Nothing
Lecture 13.?
Lecture 14.?
Lecture 15.?
Lecture 16. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 2 - Utopia: Between Heaven and Earth
Lecture 17. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Luther and the Reformation
Lecture 18. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Shakespeare: Measure for Measure
Lecture 19.?
Lecture 20. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Hume, Swift, and the Collapse of Deism
Lecture 21. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Kierkegaard's Leap of Faith
Lecture 22.?
Lecture 23. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Nietzsche and the Death of God
Lecture 24. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Joyce: From Religion to Art
Im also looking to listen to all the lectures in order
I included
Me too ✋️
Here another! 🤚
How do you square his position with the Catholic dogma that the Bible is the inerrant and divinely inspired word of God?
I was enjoying this lecture until he began reducing the Bible to a bastardized mythology.
These are SO wonderful Thank you so much
Thank you so much Dr. Sugrue.
Hi Michael, I've gathered that your health isn't as it used to be, and I'm terribly sorry to hear that. Hope you regain your strength soon enough. I wanted to tell you that I've used this video as inspiration for my wedding speech, especially your take on how the bible is a sophisticated epic story about constructing ourselves. thank you for giving a fresh perspective on these ancient stories, and I wish you all the best.
How you could work this into a wedding speech i would love to know
Great lecture. Thanks from Australia
This unlocked so many new understandings of the development of human thought and storytelling technology for me. I feel he has a far deeper understanding of what these stories really tell us about the minds of humans at the dawn of civilization. Remarkable.
I enjoy your lecture as much as the epic. Thank you.
Great lecture! 👏👏
I love the music in the opening!
As always, simply mesmerizing learning from him. Is there a specific order of his lectures? Either way I’m im going to watch all of them! 😊
You are a blessing to the world Dr. Sugrue. I hope you cherish and realize that your life has run it's immense course, affecting and inspiring thousands of learners, the humble self included. Now that's an affirmation i would love to have before i die.
Great lecture.
I have decided to watch this whole series of lectures. I am a science and math teacher and look forward to broadening my understanding.
Sir, we are in your debt. Thank you for sharing these lectures.
The inclusion of the plant of life and the snake actually make perfect sense for the Epic of Gilgamesh and serve an express purpose and moral. Instead of Gilgamesh being defeated and his lack of immortality being from a lack of effort or being a quitter, the snake removes the option permanently. Gilgamesh is left with no other option despite doing everything in his power and must accept mortality. That is why the plant and snake are important.
Dr. Sugrue may I ask what your own religious beliefs are and how your study of religion and philosophy has affected them?
Always wish I had more exposure to philosophy and theology. Absolutely loving these videos!
It's amazing how much Gilgamesh still holds up as a story. I like how the professor points out parallels between how the Bible and the epic of gilgamesh are constructed and treated by their respective society.
Listening to these fantastic lectures, can’t find lecture 2 of this series though. The next video on the playlist is lecture 4.
My dream is to finish up like this.
Very good.
Thank you!
I just watched this video. A great insight into the formation of epic stories throughout generations and through different civilisations. As I have finished this one and as it is written part 1, I am not sure whether there is a part 2 of Gilgamesh epic. If it not s there I am not able to find any . And the next lecture available is part 3 of measure by measure Shakespeare. I wanted to listen it from part 1. Is it available here??
Thank you once again 😊
Thank you
Every time I finish one playlist I remember that there's like ten more. Honestly... fifty times better than Netflix.
תודה רבה רבה רבה
Thanks for this information ❤❤
Will you be organizing the videos into course playlists later? I’m quite interested in these topics.
Professor, is there an order in which we should view your Bible series? Many thanks!
Mind Blown.
This guy doesn’t miss
you are the man
notes: in epic we find a change of location corresponding with a psychich change / transformation, and a hero embodying that
no revolutionary epics, always supporrt/legitimize the powers that be. Justifies the aristocracy
Similarities in story for Buddha stepping outside the palace confronting mortality and leaving on a journey. ❤️
School's now in session! The journey begins.
This is lecture 1 of part 1
Can anyone guide me to more of this gentleman's work? Is there material out there that is not featured on this channel?
Dear Dr. Sugrue, your videos are wonderful! Thanks a lot! But it seems a bit confused to me that several videos with the title beginning with "the Bible and Western Culture part1", so which one I should watch first and next and so on?
You might start with the Bible and then the others in chronological order.
@@dr.michaelsugrue Thank you😀
Check out the paper " Secrets in the Library: Protected Knowledge and Professional Identity in Late Babylonian Uruk ( Cambridge University Press ). It will show you something quite interesting about the priestly descendants of Sin-Leqi-unninni ( The lunar priest that gives us the only known 1st person telling of the " Gilgamesh Epic ", translated by Andrew George )
@Dr. Sugrue - I've noticed you've been replying to comments lately. If you have a moment, I would sincerely enjoy corresponding with you a bit, as I've recently taken up the study of ethics and philosophy as a hobby. As I'm sure you're aware, common sense is all to uncommon these days, and I have too few intelligent conversations. I will absolutely understand if you dont have the time, and would just like to take one more opportunity to thank you for your contributions to academia.
If you can, please upload the additional lectures from this series "The Bible and Western Culture," as they are not available anywhere else. I realize the lectures that are left out may be given by different lecturers, but I believe they are guest lecturers selected by Michael Sugrue, and are crucial to understanding the course as a whole. I would be very grateful to have access to these!
Yes, there must be someone out there who has copies of the missing lectures! Just audio would do! Anybody?!
@@mradrian1106 This was very helpful; thank you.
@@barspinoza That's great to hear! Also I added some new information I've found into my previous comment (About unseen lectures in that series, like one on Machiavelli, one on Platos Symposium, and one on Sartre and Heidegger, and some other completely missing series of lectures he did, that I DID however find the transcripts of)
Aaaand now my comment seems to have disappeared.... I was editing it, so maybe something happened. Anyway, here it is again:
Hey, don't think this is exactly what you're looking for but if you search "the great minds of the western intellectual tradition 1992" on google and click on the first youtube link that pops up, you get the lecture series that Michael Sugrue's lectures are a part of (and some lectures that are not available on his youtube channel, like one on Machiavelli, one on Platos Symposium, and one on Sartre and Heidegger), with lots of other people, it was apparently from some tape that was made back in the 92 which was pretty interesting to find. It's weird cause you can't even find this if you search it up on youtube, so it seems to be an unlisted playlist or something, idk. It does not have these bible lectures, however.
And Sugrue also has a new little podcast with his daughter apparently, on spotify called "The idea store". It's not the greatest quality in terms of sound and disturbances (The occasional dog bark in the background), but it's interesting to hear. And he has some Q&A episodes on there too. And it's funny to hear because he curses quite a bit on there too, haha!
Oh and I thought I'd add: I saw a snippet of a lecture Michael Sugrue did on Parmenides, and I was very intrigued. Turns out the original full lecture on youtube was taken down, but I did actually find a website that has taken transcripts of that whole lecture and 10 other lectures that seemed to make up a whole series of lectures about Plato and Platonic Dialouges (That I've never seen anywhere else, so this feels like finding old philosophy fragments and remnants from the past haha.) I posted a comment with a link somewhere else but it seems like youtube removed it cause it had the full link or something. But if you search "Michael Sugrue Plato - Lecture 11 - Sake in Haiku Out" it should be the first one that pops up, it's the one that says bashfulbasho in the title of the website.
They were uploaded in 2018, so I doubt that they are going anywhere, but just as a safety measure, I copied them all up as word documents on my computer, in case they ever disappear.
Gilgamesh: *rejects Ishtar*
I see Gilgamesh has that Sigma Male Grindset
I'm always looking for new interesting lectures on Psychology/Philosophy, please let me know if you guys have any recommendations, would be highly appreciated
I found a lot of great lectures on "Philosophy Overdose" particularly all of Dan Robinson's lectures. Love that man.
The Hebrew Bible's use of Gilgamesh is Polemic, it seeks to undermine, subvert, and change on a fundamental level the bits it borrows. This is important.
In regards to Gilgamesh as a whole, I advise viewrs of this lecture to delve deeper into the Epic in search of the Esoteric meaning of it. Something quite unexpected happens when one reads the Epic as soon as he finishes it, upon returning to the beginning. This time...wiser.
This was an excellent lecture, thank you.
What do you mean
It's cool how much epics still influence the ethics of people to this day! How many of you feel like The Lord of The Rings, or even Harry Potter has influenced your worldview? I do! Michael Sugrue, thank you, you are one of the best professors of our time : - )
A thought regarding the immortality plant in the sea, maybe they meant if you face chaos your self's effect on life will be immortal but then he takes a bath ,because he is a human after all, and can not do everything just perfectly so the snake of life undermines his perfect life project. like it does with everyone else.
1. Myth is same religion, ethic...
2. The Gilgamesh Epic
3. Moral self invention
Grateful ❤
Professor Sugrue mentions many times magic and math had essentially the astronomy/astrology relationship. I had never realized this. Does anyone have a reference that can flesh that out a bit more? thx!
Start with Pythagoras
I enjoyed this lecture a lot but prof Rufus fears tells The Epic of Gilgamesh better. Respect ✊
Idk why but the framed pictures irk me. Something about the square trim that makes it look out of place
24:15 "In other words, I'm not convinced that our conception of the ego is a ready made thing. (..) one of the most archaic conceptions of subjectivity, in which you do not recognize yourself in the other"
Is there literature on that topic, which supports this claim? As far as I'm concerned, there are certain mammals who recognize themselves in others, even analogous to Gilgamesh recognizing his own mortality. I'm not convinced, that such a claim wouldn't be contradictory to neurosciences. But I might just miss a point. Could someone elaborate?
Where is Lecture 2? I don't understand the order of these lectures..
Part 2?!
Does lecture 2, 3, 10, 13, 14, 15, 19 and 22 exist?
28:22 lol! _anguis ex machina_
Professor Sugrue:
I am contacting you to inquire as to whether or not you could upload Professor Andrew Ford’s Lectures in The Teaching Company, The Bible and Western Culture Part I. This is because most of my cassette tapes are warped and damaged. I managed to find and download most of your lectures and others' lectures online except 2 of Professor Andrew Ford’s Lectures. They are the following:
Lecture 3: Exodus: Toward the Law
Lecture 10: Revelation and the Eschaton
Is it possible to upload these lectures or direct one to a website that might have them.
Thank you
No, we cannot because we do not own the copyright.
Rip king 😢😢
What would you say are the elements of epic?
Why does Dr. Sugrue characterize Ishtar as unsympathetic to The Deluge and unaware of its cause? The translation I read describes the gods as being “wet-faced with sorrow” and “stricken with fever” at the sight of The Deluge, and Belet-ili claims responsibility for the Deluge: “How could I speak evil in the gods’ assembly/and declare a war to destroy my people?”
Do you think these larger than life figures correspond to the Biblical narrative of Giants in Genesis 6? The Bible also mentions "men of renown" in Genesis 6 as well.
RIP to the man who knows everything!
Someone out there must have the missing lectures in this series to upload. Anyone out there that can help?
Can we have a talk on the Ramayana
6:09 what characterizes an epic
It’s cute he dressed smart like he’s off to church with this one.
Got it
14:39 "Dreams are messages from the deep"