TOTALLY FORGOT to add a rain jacket AND battery bank to this video for the loadout! CLASSIC Dan Becker move 🤦🏻♂️ Sooo.. they are… Rab Phantom Rain Jacket bit.ly/3ggXYrs Anker PowerCore 20,100mAh amzn.to/2WVpCoR
Can you do a video dedicated to how you choose food and pack it? This 4 day trip seems like a reasonable look at how much food one should plan for and how to plan it for like a 3-5 day trip.
New backpacker here that's completely overwhelmed with the amount of content out there. Your videos have been a godsend. Concise, clear, and charismatic. Thanks so much! Learning more every day.
As a hunter and serious colorado backpacker I really appreciate the two pillow attitude. I see too many lost scared unprepared hikers out there with nothng but a sandwich and a smile because they dont want to take an extra 2-4 lbs.
I just did the Fjallraven Classic, 70 miles in the Lapland of Sweden. I watched a ton of you videos, especially this one, and followed your ideas and they were super helpful in making the trip a success. I had never done something like this before, I had only done weekend hikes with a poorly packed backpack, but following your advice I was able to easily hike for 5 days and could have done more. So thank you, your channel is an indispensable tool for new backpackers.
I don't think I could fit all that into one of my 40 liter backpacks. That is why I also have a 75 liter, and I have ordered a 65 and 85 liter Ospreys.
I’m stunned actually. My problem with so many items is not just the weight and bulk. After hiking, exhaustion, poor sleep and everything sore, I can’t keep mental track of more than 3 items 😑
I LOVE the process of packing a pack. I taught it for years to BSA leaders. Then my husband , in the military, who had never packed a pack, needed help. They sent him home with the most amazing pack, lol…..he had no idea what to do with it. It was love at first site. I still backpack, he (now retired) lays on the couch playing video games. His words; “hiking is humping, and I’m not doing it.” I never miss him.
Dan - I have 2 great mods upgrade for your shovel that will make it your favorite shovel. Before I tell you there is one other issue with that shovel that you did not mention. The tip of the shovel will likely make a hole in whatever bag you put it in. 1st - It is always nice to have a little bit of duct tape just-in-case. Take some duct tape and wrap it around the handle. 2nd mod - cut off the bottom 3 inches of a .5 liter water bottle. Smash it flat and your shovel fits in perfectly.
@@aaronfuentes5919 - I second this. I use a Gerber LMF II. Not exactly light, but it digs cat holes, chops wood, hammers stakes (has a flat spot on the handle specifically for hammering), cuts food, and makes a spear (includes holes to tie to a stick - I've never used this function). I've abused mine for over 10 years and it will likely last a couple more decades.
@@brianparks8321 love hearing this.. I don't blame people for not wanting to scuff their shiny new knife. Buy cheap and beat the crap out of it If their worried about their expensive knife.
I like the tent poles inside, they stiffen up the pack really good also. Pack like you normally do, then stick that big arm in the bag, that will make a perfect place to slide those poles securely inside the pack. I like as little as possible on the outside of the pack, only takes one branch clipping your bag on the wrong ledge and off you go. Here on the West Coast falls are pretty common, I also like PLB's rather than a texting device. I worked in 2 SAR squadrons, when I need it hands down a PLB is better than some subscription based device. PLBs need to be registered due to their power level, PLBs are not effected by ledges, rocks, water, tree canopies, they also have homing beacons once in range, strobes and in some cases inferred strobes.
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More confusing to get caught in the mid. To make matters worse 40 of theirs is like 20 of hours and they are counting with pounds ounce stones and rocks of something.
Let's acknowledge how cool it is that he admits to knowing when it was time to cut a trip short. Being able to stay dry - & thus warm - enough is health-critical. The "just hike through it" mentality a lot of backpacking YTers have can be super dangerous, when it comes to things like this. I even recently heard one say, "So your gear + clothes + quilt got wet? Use the wet gear! Embrace the adventure." The hiker machismo is real. Dan, you're a great influence. Please keep doing what you do.
A technique that I personally use alot (I live in the uk) have 2 sets of clothes your dry set for camp and sleeping and the wet set that you get back into in the morning. Most days I'm dry by the time I've finished breakfast if it's already raining then I'm already wet so no problem. Fair warning not all clothes are made equal some stuff you will just freeze in and I wouldn't really recommend doing it in the winter :) Edit: I do agree though knowing when to bail is important though having the skills to get through is better since some adventures bailing isn't an option and for me dieing isn't either :) therefore success is the only option left ;)
You're like a friggin magician fitting all that into a 40 L pack! It may have already been mentioned in these comments, but you can wrap your spare duct tape supply around the deuce handle for added comfort. This was a great magic show! Enjoyed the video.
The trash bag trick really works! I sunk chest deep into a water hole while crossing a river. I was soaked, but items in bag were bone dry. By the way, people ask why I work part time and am retired. This why. I have backpacking habit I have to satisfy. You show me something new and I gotta have it.
Nice video Dan. Kinda refreshing to see the focus is not on ounces but on fun, comfort, and trying new things. I’ll be rethinking what I pack for my next adventure with the focus more on those things. Thanks again
I get your point but if your actually backpacking how can lugging all of that unnecessary crap be fun? I guess if your hiking a few miles and calling it a day your good. We all have our own idea of what backpacking is. Dan is great guy but I pity their person that brings they much crap. Maybe if your very young it’s fine. I don’t know anyone who brings so much crap. A chair really?
Yes really. I'm 70. I've been backpacking for more than 50 years. I take what keeps me warm dry and comfortable. I am also a photographer. Which means I carry a camera with lenses and a tripod. Everybody does things differently. I am constantly messing with the weight of my pack of my gear and that's half the fun! For those who pick an arbitrary pack weight and say that's the only way to go, and then criticize the rest of us who pack what fits our style, you really belong at the beach, and let us enjoy our hike.
@@telebruce221 I am just wondering in what part of country you do your backpacking in? Most of these videos that have people carrying chairs seem to be in the West or area that the trails are much more forgiving. In an from New England and chairs are a truly rare sight. I have seen one. The trials go straight up and down. I wish I had the trails they have out West like the PCT or Colorado Trial. You are correct we all need to do what is best for our self’s. I need to keep my pack light because I am older, mid 60’s but still like to hike big miles. Take care and enjoy your trip.
Only things I do differently is I want access to the lip balm during the day. I pack it (& sunscreen if I'm taking that) somewhere on the outside. For your setup maybe the first aid kit. The other thing I pack on the outside is my headlamp. I do that because if I unexpectedly end up hiking into the dark I want to get at my headlamp. I do this after a situation what I had the lamp inside my pack and it was getting dark but I was close to campsite so I didn't want to stop, take off & open pack etc. Ended up stepping off the trail and falling over. No damaged done but was lucky. Since then it lives in the bottom of one of the side bottle pouches.
I watch 2 people with regard to gear and tips. it's you and Hansen!! that's it. . I have learned so much. Thanks for taking the time to educate, inform and inspire.
great video, thanks Dan. Also your advice about what to bring/ how to camp as a weekend warrior has been incredibly helpful. its so easy to watch a ton of videos of thru-hikers and try to bring the least and lightest stuff -- when the reality is I'm only going 3-6 miles before setting up camp and comfort for me and my family/friends is more important than cutting a pound off
Also, The Sea To Summit Foam Core Pillow in Large is the greatest packable pillow ever, for my money. It's the only one in my experience that truly lofts up high enough, & _firm_ enough, to properly support the neck of a side-sleeper like myself. That might make it too dense for some back-sleepers, though.
Dan, this is a great " How To " Go to video. I have tried unsuccessfullyto get everything into mine but your demonstration of how you pack, and "what" you pack, will greatly improve my Back Packing skills. 👍
Not sure how familiar you are with bear spray, but it’s a really good idea to used your expired can as a trainer. See how far it goes, how big the spray cone is, etc.
@@maximusjoseppi5904 - The bear would laugh at my little 7 shot 380 pistol. An effective gun would be very heavy. If you want the noise then consider a small lighter air horn.
@@maximusjoseppi5904 isn't nearly as simple as you make it out to be. Have quite a bit of hunting and firearm experience. This really depends on the size/type of bear, what you're packing, and honestly luck. Many bears will frankly shrug off smaller caliber firearms practical to carry when hiking/backpacking. Even magnum calibers tend to be cumbersome and have a lower capacity. Bear skulls can be incredibly thick as well as their general bone/muscle structure. It's not unheard of to see a bear withstand numerous rounds from rifle size calibers even if you happen to be carrying such a firearm. Further, bears are deceptively fast when they have their sights on you. This isn't a video game and you probably will not get off as many rounds as you think you would before he breaks your neck with a swipe. You're probably not the marksman you think you are in a stressful situation and even if you are, well placed shots may not be a big deterrent. Yes, bears have been killed with an array of different types of firearms but again, a lot of it is a combination of luck and how the bear was feeling that day. There are actually quite a few studies showing higher success rates with bear spray over guns.
If I could just interject here - because I see this comment string _a lot_ ... Concealed handguns aren't legal in every state of the US, but bear spray is (& you can still use it on ppl, if needed, too). If you want to take a gun with you, make sure you know it's not a crime where you'll be going, first.
Lol I'm sleeping at this gun nut's ranting and raving 🥱 Bear spray is 95% effective and weighs significantly less than 5lbs, 'nuff said It generally takes about 10 bullets to down a bear and only 3 shots of bear spray :)
This thread is hilarious. Nobody speaking here has shot anything either liquid or metal at a bear charging at them. It's the adult equivalent of "my dad can beat up your dad".
I appreciate you repeating yourself for something that you've already reviewed because not everyone watches every single video and doesn't know what you said before. It feels like you're explaining it for the first time and I reall appreciate that.
I went to put that little air pump on my wishlist, only to find out it was already on there! Seems like an obvious must-try. I really appreciate your enthusiastic and use-driven view on gear!
So proud of you!! Youve got this. Listen to your body, rest when you have to. Youre doing amazing!! I love you so much. Thank you gor sharing your journey, youre truly inspiring.
Hey Dan, maybe someone's pointed this out already, but I've noticed you saying "trash compactor bag" in a couple videos. I believe you are referring to "contractor's bags". Hope that helps, and keep up the good work!
I always put mosquito net and headlamp in to my pants (or jacket) pocket that I plan to wear in the evening, so when I need them the most, I have them on me already. Also, you should put your pillows inside your sleepingbag, so they are not in the way and once you take your sleepingbag out you dont need to look for pillows. Also, why not pack the sleepingmattress pump in the same stuffsack with your sleepingmattress, saves time and is more convinient. Great video, sry for bad english!
Good video, thanks. Just one note to add, I purchased the Zoleo emergency text/SOS satellite transmitter for my last 4 day camp out and it performed well during my trip which was mostly in no cell or very low cell coverage areas.
Man, oh wow. When you started talking about fishing, I got excited. And it's not even that - this is the most complete packing list I have ever seen. 😃
I just got back from a 4 day backpacking trip, and seen this video pop up. I'm feeling pretty good about how I packed! And I brought my lightweight chair too. The ezbit cube is brilliant btw.
Hey Dan, I was listening to a podcast about a someone who was attacked by a grizzly on an island off of alaska where only a few people roam. They had devices with S.O.S buttons and sat cell phones. They pressed the SOS button but had better luck with their Sat cell phones and were able to contact the coast guard directly. The SOS signal was sent to state troopers on the mainland who had to scramble to figure out where these people were. By the time they were able to sort it out the guy was already being air lifted out. Just some advice to go through your emergency communication plans and have something or multiple things in place in case of an emergency. By the way the guy was fine and well on his way to healing.
This packlist is pretty similar to what I usually bring on multi day hikes. Minus the bear- and fishing gear, since there's no bears and I usually don't go fishing. However what surprised me: don't you take ANY spare clothing? A fresh shirt, some boxers or some socks? A couple of years back I was in Sweden for 5 days and even though we had waterproof shoes, our socks were SOAKED every day from marching through wet grass, in the rain or through small rivers. There's little things worse to me than putting on wet shoes & wet socks in the morning...
I can't believe you fit ALL that in your bag...very nice video, I am not far from you in Delavan I am hoping in a few years when my husband retires to take my job on the road and start hiking out west the Tetons, Colorado, Arizona, your videos are very helpful.
To prevent your trowel hurting your hand: Wrap some duct tape around the handle of your trowel. You can use it for emergency repairs if needed, and it cushions your hand too.
I used to only carry a bear bin on trips where they were required, but I've started carrying them on all my trips (hiking in the Rockies where there are bears almost everywhere we go). It's just so much easier than bear bagging and while I haven't had a bear bag ripped open, I've had food ruffled by bears and it was reassuring to see that the bin kept them out.
A couple of friendly suggestions: Ditch the stuff sacks for your sleeping pad, tent, mosquito net, and chair. I take my tent poles out of the stuff sack as well, but I pack them inside my pack. I would probably leave them in the sack, for protection, on the outside like you've packed them. You'd be surprised how much weight stuff sacks add up to. Take one pillow and use your down jacket under it. I also pack a similar pillow. Comfort is important.
Great video! If u do short hikes, maybe 2-3 days u can also use es it with an es it military stove instead of gas with a msr. I tried it a few times works great! 1 esbit is enough to get enough water hot for 1 person to eat a big meal and drink a coffee….
When I was a Scout, I kept my "youth" size backpack even after I grew out of it. It was an external frame, and the straps and everything still fit, but the capacity forced me to really think about what to bring and cut down on weight.
Loved this. On the "wag bag," most National Forests that involve mountains want you to pack out your personal waste because it does not decompose at altitude like it would in a low altitude forest for example. Ran across a bad area in the Maroon Bells at 11,000 feet and it was beyond disgusting with toilet paper and feces everywhere.
@Daniel Beard The waste does not decompose at high elevations and if it isn't packed out, it ends up being a big outdoor toilet in areas that get a lot of pressure.
Takes a real scumbag to leave their poop visible for the next guy. Behaviour you’d expect from the homeless in a dark alley, not nature lovers. Fuggin disgusting.
Just got back from a 'failed' hike and night in the peaks. Got so much wrong. Down Jackets are not water proof. My boots were also not waterproof. I packed tent poles from another tent instead of pegs oh and my bag leaks. So at least videos like this give me something to aim to. Donations welcome. Cheers Dan. Safe travels.
All good - you’ve got it dialed in. What most people miss is to actually do this - layout all your gear, everything you’re going to take, and figure out how to stuff it all in. We used to carry those aluminum frame backpacks and with all the gear they were usually nearly fifty pounds. That would give me migraines at my age now. 🙀 EDIT: Oh yeah…I add a couple of compression stuff bags for tent body and fly, and sleeping bag. Compresses them down to half, and makes packing more modular. Check it out. 👍
I remember going backpacking when I was young, packing list was: backpack, sleeping bag, flashlight, a little bit of food and water and I’m gone. You get older, you need more stuff to be a comfortable trip. Lol
Extra tentstake or two is a must. I tripped over a guyline during the middle of the night during a rainstorm when nature called. Couldn't find the stake that popped out of the ground. Grabbed a spare stake, redid the guyline and back to bed. And remember, bear spray goes on the bears, not you. ;-)
in a pinch, the poop scoop can be used as a stake if the ground is soft enough. Then there's rocks, branches... but yeah, not practical in the middle of the night in the rain. :-)
Brilliant advice! thank you. I have never known how to pack a rucksack and this was a great breakdown. No need for bear spray in the UK ( less weight... phew!) but thank you. Really useful.
Yes I was wondering about rain gear too! Great video though. I have a 40 l pack and have not used it yet and was wondering if it was really possible to fit the essentials in.
Wow! I can't believe how much you can fit in there! Great work Dan! Here I am thinking 50L would be ideal, but I might need to rethink how & what I pack next time. Cheers Dan.
Can't stand these top-opening sacks, they're basically a glorified shopping bag with shoulder straps. You can never fill them up efficiently and you can't get anything from the bottom without removing other items - The military have moved away from top-opening bags as a result of these issues and have moved onto front-opening 'clamshell' style rucksacks that they can fill efficiently and access everything very easily... It's not a 'tried and tested' design that works, it's a design that we've moved on from now that they (the manufacturers) know how to make a front-opening bag with zippers strong enough to support the load pushing against it. I guarantee you that I can fit more in a 35L clamshell rucksack than you can fit in your 40L top-loader... I literally just sold my 66L top-loading Bergen to buy a 50L clamshell pack, and I can finally fit everything I need in it, unlike the Bergen...
I can vouch for the Outdoor Vitals Ventus hoodie, this thing is unbelievably warm, and just like he said it can be too warm at times. Both the Loft tek jacket and ventus hoodie exceed all expectations for outdoor gear. I highly recommend Outdoor Vitals products.
I've been using that rod for about a decade. If you break the tip they will send you a new top portion (I think it's like $20 shipping) and you can order a back up too. The backup top section can fit in the padded case too. The next level up travel rods have a hard case but are heavier and bulkier.
Hello Dan, good point with the chair .. considering to also get some "real chair" .. My current "chair system" is that I have outside on my backpack a tent footprint (310g) that I can just quickly access and use anywhere and I can put on it also a backpack and start rummaging through it and lay things down on it without exposing them to mud and wet on ground, actually two people can use it comfortable in same time + I am using a mini ultralight seat/sit-pad from Polyethylene (50g) ...
Watching you get all of that stuff in there was like watching a clown car empty in reverse. I have no idea how you did it or how it weighs less than 35 lbs. I use a Granite Gear Crown 60 and carry many of the same things you do (same nemo sleeping pad) or similar, maybe even less weight (Zack’s duplex tent, 20 degree EE quilt), lighter stove, lighter ground sheet - the clear plastic window insulation stuff (but I can confirm washing Tyvek works great to pr\e-soften it) and way less cooking gear (just a 750ml Titanium pot and a titanium spoon), same puffy, etc and when all is said and done I’m around 32 lbs and the pack is pretty full. I admittedly carry more water (2 to 2.5 liters at a time) and I have the full sized inReach. The Crown 60 pack has a 35lb limit. I’m assuming the pack doesn’t care what my base weight is and the 35lb limit is for the whole thing. I do have the same fishing pole, it’s pretty sweet. Enjoy it. I’ve thought about taking it hiking but that plus the tackle would really be pushing the weight limit. I’m trying to get lighter as it is. Maybe the difference is in the food I choose?
Can’t wait to try that fishing pole! And the HMG pack I’m using is 40L for the main compartment. The outside pockets add another 10L. The granite gear crown2 60 is awesome. I’ve used it!
I took that air pump car camping for using at the river with our floaties.... and everyone we were with was suprised that it actually worked. They all have fancy, thick, blow up air mattresses and their pump broke , so my little one that they thought was a joke saved the day!
New to the channel and love your videos. I have a suggestion for a video. It’s probably not as interesting to some, but it’s relevant to many. You’ve got a lot of great gear, how do you organize it at home for storage and access?
That didn't feel like 21 minutes lol. Great video Dan, it's nice to see what all goes with you in 1 video and how you pack. Can't wait to see how you like the new stuff.
Hi Dan, Greetings from Eastern Europe. Interestingly, I have been using a lot of same gear as you: Thermarest Hyperion 20, Nemo Tensor insulated regular wide, 2 pillows, Ghost Whisperer jacket, Nemo Hornet Elite tent. Why? Because they are the best.
Great video and appreciate the info. Though, I don't understand two things: Why bring a trowel you don't like and hurts your hand or is uncomfortable?; And...is that really enough toilet paper for four days?!!?. I mean, I KNOW I'm full of Shhhh, but I'm not a rationer and more than happy to WAG that schtuff out! Great video and very informative!
I have the same utensils and skillet, had them for years and they are ace. I'm planning a 6 day, 5 night walk and camp soon so enjoying cramming lots of content of this sort before I go! I've got my pack down to 10kg, not super light but pretty good on my budget (zero!) and mostly from existing gear 🎉
As a beginning backpacker I watch your videos all the time. Just recently subscribed though. Old and slow, but hey.. Thanks for all the help and advice.
Was asked a question about the trail pooping. I explain that over a period of time the trail will become uninhabitable because people will poop all over the place. Because of you guys major more enjoyable, more people are getting outdoors. Which means more 💩 all over the place because the lazy F-ers don’t want to did holes to pooping. You might want to do a video on this and why it is important to follow the rules to that. If the have to shut down a trail. What will you guys do? A subscriber that cares about what you share!!! Semper Fi
@@DanBecker I should also mention… It looks like I will be spending more money… damn you! lol! There were a couple of things you packed that I need to have. Especially that little mini air pump/light!
I would like to see what you do about extra socks and clothes? Also, the pan space can be used for other items so the utensils are not clanking around inside that bag/ pan while you hike. I am curious about the shoes or boots that you take and where you carry the electronics in that 40 L bag? Tripod? Etc-
As always, I really appreciate this video and all the videos you put out, but I have a bone to pick with you. I don't understand why backpacking influencers like yourself don't advocate bear canisters more. It seems that everyone is trying to get their base weights down to the absolute lowest. I get that bear canisters are bulky and add weight to your backpack, but they do a much better job at protecting your food than any bear bag can. I hear story after story where bears get to the bear bags no matter how well the person thought that they hung it. Plus, there have been several grizzly attacks this year in Montana resulting in people dying. Even if they are not required, I think it would go a long way to have folks like yourself start using them in areas where bears are known to be.
I bring a canister as well. Trying to find a tree that is far enough away from camp and has an adequate limb to hang a bear bag on is near impossible sometimes. I see terrible bear bag hangs ever time I go hiking. No thank you I will bring a bear canister.
Ditto…live in Colorado and invested in a Bearikade. Yes it was pricey but many places now require hard sided canisters. Worth a look…very strong and very light.
I feel like it would be helpful against mini bears (i.e. coons, squirrels, rats...etc) as well. I don't want to find my food bag and food nibbled and ruined by something.
TOTALLY FORGOT to add a rain jacket AND battery bank to this video for the loadout! CLASSIC Dan Becker move 🤦🏻♂️ Sooo.. they are…
Rab Phantom Rain Jacket bit.ly/3ggXYrs
Anker PowerCore 20,100mAh amzn.to/2WVpCoR
Did I miss the spinning reel part?
What was the weight on this loadout?
I didn't even notice 😂
Can you do a video dedicated to how you choose food and pack it? This 4 day trip seems like a reasonable look at how much food one should plan for and how to plan it for like a 3-5 day trip.
Here’s one I made on that last year ua-cam.com/video/DW7nLwvy0Zk/v-deo.html
New backpacker here that's completely overwhelmed with the amount of content out there. Your videos have been a godsend. Concise, clear, and charismatic. Thanks so much! Learning more every day.
As a hunter and serious colorado backpacker I really appreciate the two pillow attitude. I see too many lost scared unprepared hikers out there with nothng but a sandwich and a smile because they dont want to take an extra 2-4 lbs.
The fact that you fit ALL OF THAT STUFF in there without folding a damn thing is IMPRESSIVE! THIS WAS FUN TO WATCH!
Lol..my OCD was making me want to take all that out and fold it for you 😁
4 mins in and its giving me so much anxiety.
I just did the Fjallraven Classic, 70 miles in the Lapland of Sweden. I watched a ton of you videos, especially this one, and followed your ideas and they were super helpful in making the trip a success. I had never done something like this before, I had only done weekend hikes with a poorly packed backpack, but following your advice I was able to easily hike for 5 days and could have done more. So thank you, your channel is an indispensable tool for new backpackers.
Dan secretly cut a hole in the bottom of his pack. That's how he fit it all in a 40L pack. He is a MFing magician. Great vid!
That doesn’t make sense tho does it
I don't think I could fit all that into one of my 40 liter backpacks. That is why I also have a 75 liter, and I have ordered a 65 and 85 liter Ospreys.
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I’m stunned actually. My problem with so many items is not just the weight and bulk. After hiking, exhaustion, poor sleep and everything sore, I can’t keep mental track of more than 3 items 😑
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I LOVE the process of packing a pack. I taught it for years to BSA leaders. Then my husband , in the military, who had never packed a pack, needed help. They sent him home with the most amazing pack, lol…..he had no idea what to do with it. It was love at first site. I still backpack, he (now retired) lays on the couch playing video games. His words; “hiking is humping, and I’m not doing it.” I never miss him.
Dan - I have 2 great mods upgrade for your shovel that will make it your favorite shovel. Before I tell you there is one other issue with that shovel that you did not mention. The tip of the shovel will likely make a hole in whatever bag you put it in. 1st - It is always nice to have a little bit of duct tape just-in-case. Take some duct tape and wrap it around the handle. 2nd mod - cut off the bottom 3 inches of a .5 liter water bottle. Smash it flat and your shovel fits in perfectly.
Genius! Great tips! Thanks so much!
A couple extra ounces to trade out for a cheap light full tang knife. Dig holes, process & split wood, etc.
@@aaronfuentes5919 - I second this. I use a Gerber LMF II. Not exactly light, but it digs cat holes, chops wood, hammers stakes (has a flat spot on the handle specifically for hammering), cuts food, and makes a spear (includes holes to tie to a stick - I've never used this function). I've abused mine for over 10 years and it will likely last a couple more decades.
@@brianparks8321 love hearing this.. I don't blame people for not wanting to scuff their shiny new knife. Buy cheap and beat the crap out of it If their worried about their expensive knife.
Brilliant tip!
I like the tent poles inside, they stiffen up the pack really good also. Pack like you normally do, then stick that big arm in the bag, that will make a perfect place to slide those poles securely inside the pack. I like as little as possible on the outside of the pack, only takes one branch clipping your bag on the wrong ledge and off you go. Here on the West Coast falls are pretty common, I also like PLB's rather than a texting device. I worked in 2 SAR squadrons, when I need it hands down a PLB is better than some subscription based device. PLBs need to be registered due to their power level, PLBs are not effected by ledges, rocks, water, tree canopies, they also have homing beacons once in range, strobes and in some cases inferred strobes.
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I greatly appreciate that you bring real pillows. Highly underrated when backpacking
"I've had this down to REALLY REALLY cold like into the 40s" 😂 cheers from Finland
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He did not say that, he said 20 1:50
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More confusing to get caught in the mid. To make matters worse 40 of theirs is like 20 of hours and they are counting with pounds ounce stones and rocks of something.
If he's from Wisconsin, he's already well acquainted with cold weather.
You forgot a plastic flask full of your favourite whiskey/liquor to "cheers" trail moments AND bring comfort during "the suck."
Tyvek - washing it works - putting it in the dryer on a no-heat cycle with a couple tennis balls works even better.
Let's acknowledge how cool it is that he admits to knowing when it was time to cut a trip short. Being able to stay dry - & thus warm - enough is health-critical. The "just hike through it" mentality a lot of backpacking YTers have can be super dangerous, when it comes to things like this.
I even recently heard one say, "So your gear + clothes + quilt got wet? Use the wet gear! Embrace the adventure."
The hiker machismo is real.
Dan, you're a great influence. Please keep doing what you do.
A technique that I personally use alot (I live in the uk) have 2 sets of clothes your dry set for camp and sleeping and the wet set that you get back into in the morning. Most days I'm dry by the time I've finished breakfast if it's already raining then I'm already wet so no problem. Fair warning not all clothes are made equal some stuff you will just freeze in and I wouldn't really recommend doing it in the winter :)
Edit: I do agree though knowing when to bail is important though having the skills to get through is better since some adventures bailing isn't an option and for me dieing isn't either :) therefore success is the only option left ;)
If it’s not fun !
I understood it as he got rid of bag left it behind.
You're like a friggin magician fitting all that into a 40 L pack! It may have already been mentioned in these comments, but you can wrap your spare duct tape supply around the deuce handle for added comfort. This was a great magic show! Enjoyed the video.
The trash bag trick really works! I sunk chest deep into a water hole while crossing a river. I was soaked, but items in bag were bone dry. By the way, people ask why I work part time and am retired. This why. I have backpacking habit I have to satisfy. You show me something new and I gotta have it.
A trash bag really kept all that water out? Do you tie the trash bag closed?
Dan, a simple, cheap, cotton bandanna has many uses including cushioning for that deuce trowel.
Nice video Dan. Kinda refreshing to see the focus is not on ounces but on fun, comfort, and trying new things. I’ll be rethinking what I pack for my next adventure with the focus more on those things. Thanks again
Kind of is he mentioned what everything weighed loool
@@jlh6334 But that wasn't the focus.
I get your point but if your actually backpacking how can lugging all of that unnecessary crap be fun? I guess if your hiking a few miles and calling it a day your good. We all have our own idea of what backpacking is. Dan is great guy but I pity their person that brings they much crap. Maybe if your very young it’s fine. I don’t know anyone who brings so much crap. A chair really?
Yes really.
I'm 70.
I've been backpacking for more than 50 years.
I take what keeps me warm dry and comfortable.
I am also a photographer.
Which means I carry a camera with lenses and a tripod.
Everybody does things differently.
I am constantly messing with the weight of my pack of my gear and that's half the fun!
For those who pick an arbitrary pack weight and say that's the only way to go, and then criticize the rest of us who pack what fits our style, you really belong at the beach, and let us enjoy our hike.
@@telebruce221 I am just wondering in what part of country you do your backpacking in? Most of these videos that have people carrying chairs seem to be in the West or area that the trails are much more forgiving. In an from New England and chairs are a truly rare sight. I have seen one. The trials go straight up and down. I wish I had the trails they have out West like the PCT or Colorado Trial. You are correct we all need to do what is best for our self’s. I need to keep my pack light because I am older, mid 60’s but still like to hike big miles. Take care and enjoy your trip.
Only things I do differently is I want access to the lip balm during the day. I pack it (& sunscreen if I'm taking that) somewhere on the outside. For your setup maybe the first aid kit.
The other thing I pack on the outside is my headlamp. I do that because if I unexpectedly end up hiking into the dark I want to get at my headlamp. I do this after a situation what I had the lamp inside my pack and it was getting dark but I was close to campsite so I didn't want to stop, take off & open pack etc. Ended up stepping off the trail and falling over. No damaged done but was lucky. Since then it lives in the bottom of one of the side bottle pouches.
Ditto on the headlamp. It's always in the top pocket or a bottle pocket depending on bag. I want to be able to put my hand on it straight away
That mini pump is great. I just recently got one and wow... amazing fast blow up and I'm not light headed in the end.
Backpacking fishing tip. Metal mint cans are best for lures, hooks etc. they are small lightweight and durable.
I really love the look of the bag it self! One big open area and no crazy zipper compartments!
I watch 2 people with regard to gear and tips. it's you and Hansen!! that's it. . I have learned so much. Thanks for taking the time to educate, inform and inspire.
I love stuffing my sleeping bag with my pillow, sleep/night needs. It packs great and makes set up and tear down quicker.
@@MichaelTheophilus906 I put a liner bag in the backpack and don’t use the stuff sack.
"Thermarest Sumpin Sumpin Pillow". That's why I love you Dan! Great video's and real reviews. Keep them coming! :)
great video, thanks Dan. Also your advice about what to bring/ how to camp as a weekend warrior has been incredibly helpful. its so easy to watch a ton of videos of thru-hikers and try to bring the least and lightest stuff -- when the reality is I'm only going 3-6 miles before setting up camp and comfort for me and my family/friends is more important than cutting a pound off
Also, The Sea To Summit Foam Core Pillow in Large is the greatest packable pillow ever, for my money.
It's the only one in my experience that truly lofts up high enough, & _firm_ enough, to properly support the neck of a side-sleeper like myself.
That might make it too dense for some back-sleepers, though.
Dan, this is a great " How To " Go to video. I have tried unsuccessfullyto get everything into mine but your demonstration of how you pack, and "what" you pack, will greatly improve my Back Packing skills. 👍
idk if this is a dumb question, but what about clothes??? are you supposed to wear the same clothes for the whole trip?
Yes
I’m going to be
Some people pack two sets: the one you wear hiking and the one you wear at night and/or as a dry spare. And yes, you will get dirty
Socks are a non negotiable for me - I could wear the same trousers, t shirt and outerwear but need clean undies for n the morning 😄
@@manuel_winde I am the same, i can wear same clothing but damn the sweaty socks and pants. that is grim to wear more than once :)
Not sure how familiar you are with bear spray, but it’s a really good idea to used your expired can as a trainer. See how far it goes, how big the spray cone is, etc.
@@maximusjoseppi5904 - The bear would laugh at my little 7 shot 380 pistol. An effective gun would be very heavy. If you want the noise then consider a small lighter air horn.
@@maximusjoseppi5904 isn't nearly as simple as you make it out to be. Have quite a bit of hunting and firearm experience. This really depends on the size/type of bear, what you're packing, and honestly luck. Many bears will frankly shrug off smaller caliber firearms practical to carry when hiking/backpacking. Even magnum calibers tend to be cumbersome and have a lower capacity. Bear skulls can be incredibly thick as well as their general bone/muscle structure. It's not unheard of to see a bear withstand numerous rounds from rifle size calibers even if you happen to be carrying such a firearm. Further, bears are deceptively fast when they have their sights on you. This isn't a video game and you probably will not get off as many rounds as you think you would before he breaks your neck with a swipe. You're probably not the marksman you think you are in a stressful situation and even if you are, well placed shots may not be a big deterrent. Yes, bears have been killed with an array of different types of firearms but again, a lot of it is a combination of luck and how the bear was feeling that day. There are actually quite a few studies showing higher success rates with bear spray over guns.
If I could just interject here - because I see this comment string _a lot_ ...
Concealed handguns aren't legal in every state of the US, but bear spray is (& you can still use it on ppl, if needed, too).
If you want to take a gun with you, make sure you know it's not a crime where you'll be going, first.
Lol I'm sleeping at this gun nut's ranting and raving 🥱
Bear spray is 95% effective and weighs significantly less than 5lbs, 'nuff said
It generally takes about 10 bullets to down a bear and only 3 shots of bear spray :)
This thread is hilarious. Nobody speaking here has shot anything either liquid or metal at a bear charging at them. It's the adult equivalent of "my dad can beat up your dad".
@Dan Becker you could cut a line on a thick branch for your trowel.
It's crazy how much cleaner your editing has become in the past year. Cheers, Dan!
I appreciate you repeating yourself for something that you've already reviewed because not everyone watches every single video and doesn't know what you said before. It feels like you're explaining it for the first time and I reall appreciate that.
I went to put that little air pump on my wishlist, only to find out it was already on there! Seems like an obvious must-try. I really appreciate your enthusiastic and use-driven view on gear!
So proud of you!! Youve got this. Listen to your body, rest when you have to. Youre doing amazing!! I love you so much. Thank you gor sharing your journey, youre truly inspiring.
The backpack was a paid actor
Hey Dan, maybe someone's pointed this out already, but I've noticed you saying "trash compactor bag" in a couple videos. I believe you are referring to "contractor's bags". Hope that helps, and keep up the good work!
Love these videos man. I’ve learned more from watching your stuff than anyone else as far as gear is concerned.
I always put mosquito net and headlamp in to my pants (or jacket) pocket that I plan to wear in the evening, so when I need them the most, I have them on me already. Also, you should put your pillows inside your sleepingbag, so they are not in the way and once you take your sleepingbag out you dont need to look for pillows. Also, why not pack the sleepingmattress pump in the same stuffsack with your sleepingmattress, saves time and is more convinient. Great video, sry for bad english!
Wow! Super efficient!!! Thanks!!!
Good video, thanks. Just one note to add, I purchased the Zoleo emergency text/SOS satellite transmitter for my last 4 day camp out and it performed well during my trip which was mostly in no cell or very low cell coverage areas.
Man, oh wow. When you started talking about fishing, I got excited. And it's not even that - this is the most complete packing list I have ever seen. 😃
I just got back from a 4 day backpacking trip, and seen this video pop up. I'm feeling pretty good about how I packed! And I brought my lightweight chair too. The ezbit cube is brilliant btw.
Thank you so much for posting this video. I have always thought I was an outlier because I take two pillows with me. I am not the only one!
Hey Dan, I was listening to a podcast about a someone who was attacked by a grizzly on an island off of alaska where only a few people roam. They had devices with S.O.S buttons and sat cell phones. They pressed the SOS button but had better luck with their Sat cell phones and were able to contact the coast guard directly. The SOS signal was sent to state troopers on the mainland who had to scramble to figure out where these people were. By the time they were able to sort it out the guy was already being air lifted out. Just some advice to go through your emergency communication plans and have something or multiple things in place in case of an emergency. By the way the guy was fine and well on his way to healing.
Good info! Thank you!
love your humor & willingness to laugh at yourself. Thanks for your videos. Great info for us old guys with dad bods.
Those pillows are a game changer! I love mine ❤️
True on the Tyvek. Throw it in the washer (don't dry) and it'll come out soft so you don't listen to crinkly noises all night.
This packlist is pretty similar to what I usually bring on multi day hikes. Minus the bear- and fishing gear, since there's no bears and I usually don't go fishing.
However what surprised me: don't you take ANY spare clothing? A fresh shirt, some boxers or some socks?
A couple of years back I was in Sweden for 5 days and even though we had waterproof shoes, our socks were SOAKED every day from marching through wet grass, in the rain or through small rivers. There's little things worse to me than putting on wet shoes & wet socks in the morning...
Minus the Bear is such a good band.
yea I was surprised aswell, at least a couple tshirts...
@@chigliaat least 1 extra shirt to let that dry while you wear the second one
I can't believe you fit ALL that in your bag...very nice video, I am not far from you in Delavan I am hoping in a few years when my husband retires to take my job on the road and start hiking out west the Tetons, Colorado, Arizona, your videos are very helpful.
To prevent your trowel hurting your hand: Wrap some duct tape around the handle of your trowel. You can use it for emergency repairs if needed, and it cushions your hand too.
Sticky! 😲
With the Deuce (and Double Deuce), a lot of people wrap the handle in paracord. Makes it easier to handle and gives them spare cordage that way.
I used to only carry a bear bin on trips where they were required, but I've started carrying them on all my trips (hiking in the Rockies where there are bears almost everywhere we go). It's just so much easier than bear bagging and while I haven't had a bear bag ripped open, I've had food ruffled by bears and it was reassuring to see that the bin kept them out.
Very practical and joyful to watch. Thanks for the positive energy!
Great video, Dan! Also I appreciate that you say "filet" correctly.
A couple of friendly suggestions:
Ditch the stuff sacks for your sleeping pad, tent, mosquito net, and chair. I take my tent poles out of the stuff sack as well, but I pack them inside my pack. I would probably leave them in the sack, for protection, on the outside like you've packed them. You'd be surprised how much weight stuff sacks add up to.
Take one pillow and use your down jacket under it. I also pack a similar pillow. Comfort is important.
Those utensils are amazing and hold up quiet well
Great video! If u do short hikes, maybe 2-3 days u can also use es it with an es it military stove instead of gas with a msr. I tried it a few times works great! 1 esbit is enough to get enough water hot for 1 person to eat a big meal and drink a coffee….
Hey Dan, try putting some duct tape on the handles of the trowel. Helped me tremendously. Plus you'll have some extra duct tape if you ever need it.
Good idea!
When I was a Scout, I kept my "youth" size backpack even after I grew out of it. It was an external frame, and the straps and everything still fit, but the capacity forced me to really think about what to bring and cut down on weight.
Loved this. On the "wag bag," most National Forests that involve mountains want you to pack out your personal waste because it does not decompose at altitude like it would in a low altitude forest for example. Ran across a bad area in the Maroon Bells at 11,000 feet and it was beyond disgusting with toilet paper and feces everywhere.
@Daniel Beard The waste does not decompose at high elevations and if it isn't packed out, it ends up being a big outdoor toilet in areas that get a lot of pressure.
Takes a real scumbag to leave their poop visible for the next guy. Behaviour you’d expect from the homeless in a dark alley, not nature lovers. Fuggin disgusting.
That Flextailgear tiny pump can also stoke a campfire. Probably works better than waving a Helinox chair that I’ve seen folks do in other videos.
Show more of your fishing gear brother. I’d love to see your set up with that rod, especially the reel you’re using. Beautiful setup!
when doing some big wall climbs I double layer gallon zips with powder laundry detergent to help with smells for wags bags.
I used the Southwest version of this pack (non mesh front pouch) to hike the JMT this past summer. 40L was just right for me.
Wrap the trowel handle in Paracord or athletic tape to soften the edges. Works well and does not add too much weight.
Just got back from a 'failed' hike and night in the peaks. Got so much wrong. Down Jackets are not water proof. My boots were also not waterproof. I packed tent poles from another tent instead of pegs oh and my bag leaks. So at least videos like this give me something to aim to. Donations welcome. Cheers Dan. Safe travels.
All good - you’ve got it dialed in.
What most people miss is to actually do this - layout all your gear, everything you’re going to take, and figure out how to stuff it all in.
We used to carry those aluminum frame backpacks and with all the gear they were usually nearly fifty pounds. That would give me migraines at my age now. 🙀
EDIT: Oh yeah…I add a couple of compression stuff bags for tent body and fly, and sleeping bag. Compresses them down to half, and makes packing more modular. Check it out. 👍
I remember going backpacking when I was young, packing list was: backpack, sleeping bag, flashlight, a little bit of food and water and I’m gone. You get older, you need more stuff to be a comfortable trip. Lol
Extra tentstake or two is a must. I tripped over a guyline during the middle of the night during a rainstorm when nature called. Couldn't find the stake that popped out of the ground. Grabbed a spare stake, redid the guyline and back to bed.
And remember, bear spray goes on the bears, not you. ;-)
in a pinch, the poop scoop can be used as a stake if the ground is soft enough.
Then there's rocks, branches... but yeah, not practical in the middle of the night in the rain. :-)
Brilliant advice! thank you. I have never known how to pack a rucksack and this was a great breakdown. No need for bear spray in the UK ( less weight... phew!) but thank you. Really useful.
Yes I was wondering about rain gear too! Great video though. I have a 40 l pack and have not used it yet and was wondering if it was really possible to fit the essentials in.
It's really cool that John Krasinsky's older brother is so into outdoor stuff. Just discovered this channel and really digging it.
So interesting to see how others pack, and how completely different their stile is from mine. Thanks!
Wow! I can't believe how much you can fit in there! Great work Dan! Here I am thinking 50L would be ideal, but I might need to rethink how & what I pack next time. Cheers Dan.
Can't stand these top-opening sacks, they're basically a glorified shopping bag with shoulder straps. You can never fill them up efficiently and you can't get anything from the bottom without removing other items - The military have moved away from top-opening bags as a result of these issues and have moved onto front-opening 'clamshell' style rucksacks that they can fill efficiently and access everything very easily... It's not a 'tried and tested' design that works, it's a design that we've moved on from now that they (the manufacturers) know how to make a front-opening bag with zippers strong enough to support the load pushing against it. I guarantee you that I can fit more in a 35L clamshell rucksack than you can fit in your 40L top-loader... I literally just sold my 66L top-loading Bergen to buy a 50L clamshell pack, and I can finally fit everything I need in it, unlike the Bergen...
I can vouch for the Outdoor Vitals Ventus hoodie, this thing is unbelievably warm, and just like he said it can be too warm at times. Both the Loft tek jacket and ventus hoodie exceed all expectations for outdoor gear. I highly recommend Outdoor Vitals products.
I've been using that rod for about a decade. If you break the tip they will send you a new top portion (I think it's like $20 shipping) and you can order a back up too. The backup top section can fit in the padded case too.
The next level up travel rods have a hard case but are heavier and bulkier.
I’m moving to Montana from Portland in a few weeks. Moving right by the beartooths. Not gonna miss Portland Oregon in the least.
Hello Dan, good point with the chair .. considering to also get some "real chair" .. My current "chair system" is that I have outside on my backpack a tent footprint (310g) that I can just quickly access and use anywhere and I can put on it also a backpack and start rummaging through it and lay things down on it without exposing them to mud and wet on ground, actually two people can use it comfortable in same time + I am using a mini ultralight seat/sit-pad from Polyethylene (50g) ...
Watching you get all of that stuff in there was like watching a clown car empty in reverse. I have no idea how you did it or how it weighs less than 35 lbs. I use a Granite Gear Crown 60 and carry many of the same things you do (same nemo sleeping pad) or similar, maybe even less weight (Zack’s duplex tent, 20 degree EE quilt), lighter stove, lighter ground sheet - the clear plastic window insulation stuff (but I can confirm washing Tyvek works great to pr\e-soften it) and way less cooking gear (just a 750ml Titanium pot and a titanium spoon), same puffy, etc and when all is said and done I’m around 32 lbs and the pack is pretty full. I admittedly carry more water (2 to 2.5 liters at a time) and I have the full sized inReach. The Crown 60 pack has a 35lb limit. I’m assuming the pack doesn’t care what my base weight is and the 35lb limit is for the whole thing. I do have the same fishing pole, it’s pretty sweet. Enjoy it. I’ve thought about taking it hiking but that plus the tackle would really be pushing the weight limit. I’m trying to get lighter as it is. Maybe the difference is in the food I choose?
Can’t wait to try that fishing pole! And the HMG pack I’m using is 40L for the main compartment. The outside pockets add another 10L. The granite gear crown2 60 is awesome. I’ve used it!
I took that air pump car camping for using at the river with our floaties.... and everyone we were with was suprised that it actually worked. They all have fancy, thick, blow up air mattresses and their pump broke , so my little one that they thought was a joke saved the day!
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New to the channel and love your videos. I have a suggestion for a video. It’s probably not as interesting to some, but it’s relevant to many. You’ve got a lot of great gear, how do you organize it at home for storage and access?
What a clever way to plug that turborant ad lol nice vid brother
That didn't feel like 21 minutes lol. Great video Dan, it's nice to see what all goes with you in 1 video and how you pack. Can't wait to see how you like the new stuff.
Thank You Dan For Great Demo on Packing up Back Pack. Was Wondering How to Do This Love Video❤❤
Hi Dan, Greetings from Eastern Europe. Interestingly, I have been using a lot of same gear as you: Thermarest Hyperion 20, Nemo Tensor insulated regular wide, 2 pillows, Ghost Whisperer jacket, Nemo Hornet Elite tent. Why? Because they are the best.
Truth! And Eastern Europe? That’s amazing! Thanks so much for watching all the way from over there :-)
Flextail gear max pump pro 2. Pump/lantern/vacuum/charger. Last time I went camping and lot a fire, this pump worked beautifully to stoke up the fire.
Great video and appreciate the info. Though, I don't understand two things: Why bring a trowel you don't like and hurts your hand or is uncomfortable?; And...is that really enough toilet paper for four days?!!?. I mean, I KNOW I'm full of Shhhh, but I'm not a rationer and more than happy to WAG that schtuff out! Great video and very informative!
I have the same utensils and skillet, had them for years and they are ace. I'm planning a 6 day, 5 night walk and camp soon so enjoying cramming lots of content of this sort before I go! I've got my pack down to 10kg, not super light but pretty good on my budget (zero!) and mostly from existing gear 🎉
I think that was like a conjuring trick ! There was no bottom in the bag 😂
As a beginning backpacker I watch your videos all the time. Just recently subscribed though. Old and slow, but hey.. Thanks for all the help and advice.
Awesome! Glad to help!!
Bro, you forgot the kitchen sink! 🤣
My favorite gear videos include packing the backpack, thank you for showing this!! Awesome setup and appreciate the links!
i agree
6:32 hold up…did he say diddy bag 😂
😂😂😂
Esbit...i always bring one too!! Even in my day pack setup. I try to keep my weight down, but i like backup for fire and water purifying!
Was asked a question about the trail pooping. I explain that over a period of time the trail will become uninhabitable because people will poop all over the place. Because of you guys major more enjoyable, more people are getting outdoors. Which means more 💩 all over the place because the lazy F-ers don’t want to did holes to pooping. You might want to do a video on this and why it is important to follow the rules to that. If the have to shut down a trail. What will you guys do? A subscriber that cares about what you share!!!
Semper Fi
I just did one 😉 ua-cam.com/video/SyCqt3BTB1Y/v-deo.html
That was great! I just got a 40 L pack and you touched on so many useful things for me. Thank you.
Glad to help!!
@@DanBecker I should also mention… It looks like I will be spending more money… damn you! lol! There were a couple of things you packed that I need to have. Especially that little mini air pump/light!
I would like to see what you do about extra socks and clothes? Also, the pan space can be used for other items so the utensils are not clanking around inside that bag/ pan while you hike. I am curious about the shoes or boots that you take and where you carry the electronics in that 40 L bag? Tripod? Etc-
I prefer A&D ointment for chafing. You can also use it for many other skin issues like chapstick. It probably flammable, too.
As always, I really appreciate this video and all the videos you put out, but I have a bone to pick with you. I don't understand why backpacking influencers like yourself don't advocate bear canisters more. It seems that everyone is trying to get their base weights down to the absolute lowest. I get that bear canisters are bulky and add weight to your backpack, but they do a much better job at protecting your food than any bear bag can. I hear story after story where bears get to the bear bags no matter how well the person thought that they hung it. Plus, there have been several grizzly attacks this year in Montana resulting in people dying. Even if they are not required, I think it would go a long way to have folks like yourself start using them in areas where bears are known to be.
I bring a canister as well. Trying to find a tree that is far enough away from camp and has an adequate limb to hang a bear bag on is near impossible sometimes. I see terrible bear bag hangs ever time I go hiking. No thank you I will bring a bear canister.
Ditto…live in Colorado and invested in a Bearikade. Yes it was pricey but many places now require hard sided canisters. Worth a look…very strong and very light.
I feel like it would be helpful against mini bears (i.e. coons, squirrels, rats...etc) as well. I don't want to find my food bag and food nibbled and ruined by something.