The Cost of Investment Hubris

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  • Warren Buffett has famously said that "diversification is a protection against ignorance" and that it "makes very little sense for anyone that knows what they're doing."
    This quote is often used as an argument against diversified investment strategies, but the thing is, Warren Buffett was probably not talking about you when he referred to people who know what they’re doing.
    If you think that you are included in Buffett’s group of “people who know what they’re doing” you may have investment hubris, which can cost you in the long-run.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 279

  • @bhuman1983
    @bhuman1983 6 місяців тому +254

    I like diversification because then I can focus on eating a warm chocolate brownie with vanilla ice cream on top, and NOT be staring at a screen evaluating individual stocks.

    • @safetyfirst2417
      @safetyfirst2417 6 місяців тому +24

      I would diversify away from that junk you refer to as a food

    • @crankymillennial
      @crankymillennial 6 місяців тому +3

      This!

    • @grigorirasputin425
      @grigorirasputin425 6 місяців тому +5

      So you decided to get diabetes because you don't want to pick stocks? Why so extreme?

    • @Byssbod
      @Byssbod 4 місяці тому +3

      I love the way you think lol

    • @coastalbeer
      @coastalbeer 2 місяці тому

      Life is a balance between comfort and risk. Where do you settle? I always need a net. No matter what happens, I'm going to be fine.
      Easy to say, hard to implement. Make a plan, then work your plan. Start small and simple. Make improvements along the way. Open a savings account. Then a checking account. Then a trading account. 🎉
      Eventually you will be giving people advice, because you learned the path. Starting over sometimes means you are experiencing the mistakes that teach.

  • @j.frankparnell3087
    @j.frankparnell3087 6 місяців тому +175

    I witnessed this phenomenon a few years ago during the Canadian pot stock boom. I worked with a group of people that thought that that they "knew what they were doing" because they were regular pot users and could therefore predict which companies and products would be successful. They got lucky and made a bunch of money (on paper anyway). At that point they considered themselves financial geniuses and continued to invest everything into these same companies. Fast forward a few years and their investments became practically worthless and they were right back where they started - broke and ignorant.

    • @tomohawk52
      @tomohawk52 6 місяців тому +20

      Going back in time to the internet stock boom, it was exactly the same thing with the people I knew. The sectors may change, but human nature doesn't.

    • @krdxz
      @krdxz 6 місяців тому +8

      I remember something similar during 2007 crisis. I was working with this very intelligent engineer that said he has seen financial meltdown coming and made good money betting accordingly. He then proceeded to lose all his winning by making a strong bet that Bear Sterns will recover. It just shows you that even very intelligent people can fall victim to this investing hubris.

    • @DrBilly90210
      @DrBilly90210 6 місяців тому

      Broke, ignorant..... and stoned, DUDE! LOL

    • @jonscrivner9087
      @jonscrivner9087 6 місяців тому +1

      Great example.

    • @demonicbladez
      @demonicbladez 4 місяці тому +2

      This post would have been funnier if you said broke and stoned at the end

  • @kage-fm
    @kage-fm 6 місяців тому +152

    *guy with hubris:* yeah, but i’m not one of the guys with hubris

    • @gregerlandson7193
      @gregerlandson7193 2 місяці тому +4

      Trump Impression:
      "I'm the most humble person, everyone says 'Wow! Look how humble he is. I wish I could be that humble.' It's incredible."

  • @manishdyall4779
    @manishdyall4779 6 місяців тому +145

    Ben Felix - something missing from every school's curriculum. If I ever get to run a country, I am including you in the national curriculum

    • @jasonmaguire7552
      @jasonmaguire7552 6 місяців тому +6

      I can't imagine most kids caring or remembering this stuff.

    • @bebluvsu4260
      @bebluvsu4260 6 місяців тому

      which would then galvanise heightened financial literacy, gotta keep the citizens enslaved man, suppress the education 🎉

    • @Chessmapling
      @Chessmapling 6 місяців тому +13

      @@jasonmaguire7552 They don't. "We should teach personal finance in schools" is one of those phrases you hear often, but studies have shown that personal finance courses in high school are ineffective precisely because kids at that age do not care about mortages, taxes, and investing. They have no wealth of their own, why would they?

    • @manishdyall4779
      @manishdyall4779 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Chessmapling How unfortunate. Still, everybody should have investments and I am thinking that comparing school with work and presenting investing as a way out of having to work for a living could get them interested. School at the end of the day is the lite version of work.

    • @jimbojimbo6873
      @jimbojimbo6873 6 місяців тому +5

      God hope you never lead the country, we struggle to teach the basics of Math and general law. This is not the top priority.

  • @ironcito1101
    @ironcito1101 6 місяців тому +19

    Buffett also said that you should only buy shares of a given company at a given price if you can write an essay explaining why. That essay would include a valuation of the company, estimations of its future cash flow, its competitive advantages, an analysis of the industry, your trust in corporate leadership, competitors, and so on. It would practically be a full-time job, like it is for Buffett. Even then, you can (and most likely will) get it wrong. And all that wouldn't be worth it to _barely_ beat the market. Might as well use that time and effort to work on something else and make money to invest 😅

  • @MatheusC1729
    @MatheusC1729 6 місяців тому +35

    I'm both a Buffett stan and a Ben Felix stan. I believe that people like Buffett are incredibly skillful and I admire buffett more than I can say. I also believe that you can be skillful and beat the market.
    But I am also a Ben Felix stan. I believe that most people, including myself, are better off holding index funds. I work in the active management industry, and even though I try to work my ass to find investments that outperform, the reality is that I'm way more likely than not to underperform.

    • @spanishflea634
      @spanishflea634 6 місяців тому +2

      Buffett also says that most people should own index funds.

    • @MatheusC1729
      @MatheusC1729 6 місяців тому

      @@spanishflea634 I also say that

    • @joefer5360
      @joefer5360 2 місяці тому

      Look up to Munger. Buffet is just as much of stock picking degenerate like the rest of us. Look up his "cigar butt problem". :)

  • @ShOwStOpp3rr
    @ShOwStOpp3rr 6 місяців тому +14

    I had this hubris my first 10 years of investing,,and everything i did was an absolute clusterf*ck of lost money,,if only i had put all that time and money to work in a simple SP 500 index fund back then i would of had a better head start in building my retirement nest egg..i just didn't know it was that easy back then.

  • @moneycessity
    @moneycessity 6 місяців тому +27

    Beating the S&P500 in a year is one thing... but doing it consistently AND with a similar risk profile is really tough! Great video!

    • @christophesiewecke9208
      @christophesiewecke9208 4 місяці тому +3

      It's a full time job. And unless you are very fortunate, most people can't live off of their investments, so... indexed ETFs ftw.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 2 місяці тому

      Beating the S&P 500 as an investor is easy over time. Impossible over the short term as that would speculation.

  • @armitageshanks2499
    @armitageshanks2499 6 місяців тому +33

    Imagine being a retail investor trading a few grand on RobinHood and unironically believing you're one of the people who Buffett - a guy who knows Graham, Klarman, Schloss, Munger, Greenblatt, Simons, Ruane, Li Lu etc - thinks knows what they're doing 😂😂😭

    • @simonp6339
      @simonp6339 6 місяців тому

      One of the around 10 people, to be more specific, who Buffett thought might be able to outperform the S&P500 consistently (0:58).

  • @josephlombardo1267
    @josephlombardo1267 4 місяці тому +8

    My interpretation of Warren's words is "if you want to pick stocks, spend the time to know what you're doing", otherwise simply invest in index funds and enjoy the rest of your life. People keep playing the lottery for fun, why not research companies/investments for fun? I think the odds are higher!

    • @CleverContrarian
      @CleverContrarian 2 місяці тому

      Doing your due diligence definitely pays dividends…

  • @Juhno
    @Juhno 6 місяців тому +5

    I always roll my eyes when people try to argue a point with short quotes.

  • @MailmanCornetto
    @MailmanCornetto 4 місяці тому +3

    I love how you keep hammering home the same message. It helps me put my ego aside and accept I'm not special when it comes to investments.

  • @robinwoodbury2563
    @robinwoodbury2563 6 місяців тому +15

    Ben, though I always liked your longer-form videos with all their academic rigor, I have to admit these recent shorter-form works are easier to digest and extract kernels of wisdom from. Thanks as always!

    • @BenFelixCSI
      @BenFelixCSI  6 місяців тому +1

      That's great! Thanks a lot for the feedback.

    • @muskokaboats
      @muskokaboats 6 місяців тому

      Agreed! I usually don’t want them because of the length but this one was fantastic

  • @robertdelorme8779
    @robertdelorme8779 6 місяців тому +4

    Love this Ben! I wish I had discovered Warren Buffett 30 years ago but was at least lucky enough to get his insights in 2015 for low cost index funds. Your vid gives me confidence that I am doing the right thing for the next 30 years. Thanks for this!!

  • @dennismicallef9350
    @dennismicallef9350 6 місяців тому +18

    My smartest moment was when I admitted to myself that I simply didn't know what I didn't know about picking stocks.
    I have since switched to a Market cap index fund and added a 16% small cap value tilt.
    I have learned an awful lot from the folks at PWL, all for free from helpful videos like this starting from the couch potato model.
    Thanks!
    p.s.
    I believe that a lot of people misunderstand Buffet's quote because they equate ignorance with stupidity. They're not "stupid" so he obviously isn't talking about them... :) To me, it means that someone who isn't an expert, should in fact diversify.

    • @AsianTaile
      @AsianTaile 6 місяців тому +2

      Same, I'm glad others also found lots of value through these videos as it seems like I'm doing something right. I went 100% SCV but am slowly adding tilts like a profitability/conservative with a total market as research seems against my more risky play. Btw, PWL Capital also has portfolio examples they use on their site if you want to know more about specific recommendations for optimization.
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    • @739jep
      @739jep 6 місяців тому +1

      I like your final thought. In my mind I’d go a step further though. To me ignorance or lack thereof when it comes to investing would come down to knowledge of future events and how the market will react to them. As none of us can accurately predict the future , especially not all the time - we should all consider ourselves ignorant investors. Even buffet himself !

  • @kosi42
    @kosi42 6 місяців тому +3

    Ben, I started as a real estate investor who started buying after the GFC (when everything was cheap) and rode the rising tide of the 2010s. Why would anyone invest in index funds, I scoffed.
    I first came across your videos in 2018 or so, with great skepticism (and hubris). You definitely weren't preaching to the choir to me. But I kept listening and now most of my money is invested in AVGV. Thank you for putting these videos out and being a reliable source of evidence-based investing knowledge.

  • @terryadams1830
    @terryadams1830 6 місяців тому +5

    Another great video Ben! Thanks from down south!

  • @Esonar
    @Esonar 6 місяців тому +1

    Gyahahaha, I love that opening "He probably wasn't talking about you". Harsh truthbombs in the first 30 seconds. Love this channel!

  • @davidschelkens9481
    @davidschelkens9481 6 місяців тому +2

    Spot on. Everyone thinks they are special, most arent. As always, the hardest thing to do is keeping things simple. Keep up the good work Mr Felix!

  • @Martin-qb2mw
    @Martin-qb2mw 4 місяці тому

    When the Buffet argument shows up (and it frequently does) my knowlege from previous videos from you led me to this exact conclusion already. Thanks for educating us Felix!

  • @toddknode752
    @toddknode752 6 місяців тому +6

    there is another video of Buffett out there where he says this line but then also says "most people don't know what they are doing".

  • @tomaszpazgrat4831
    @tomaszpazgrat4831 4 місяці тому

    I joined watchers of this channel recently, but even after some time... it's priceless...

  • @LumiLunar
    @LumiLunar 2 місяці тому +1

    Warren also said during an annual meeting while answering a question if he was an average working man not doing any stock research then he’d invest in the S&P. He said that the S&P is the best investment for anyone who doesn’t contribute any time to researching businesses.
    He’s not calling us idiots. He just thinks that if you’re a professional who knows what they’re doing then you’d be losing out on bigger opportunities by investing in an index. And keep in mind he said that he’s only found about 10 investors in his lifetime who he thought was capable of doing that.

  • @dmac3316
    @dmac3316 6 місяців тому +1

    Another rock solid vid, thanks for posting!

  • @azhp42069
    @azhp42069 6 місяців тому +29

    I imagine the people who need to hear this message are the people who will ignore it, but as they say you can lead a horse to water lol

    • @BenFelixCSI
      @BenFelixCSI  6 місяців тому +14

      That is likely true for most of my videos, unfortunately.

    • @ccrider8483
      @ccrider8483 6 місяців тому +9

      I am actually thankful to all the people who do not follow this advise, because if everyone did it would not work as well for a passive investor like myself.

    • @Allen-L-Canada
      @Allen-L-Canada 6 місяців тому +1

      Fund managers are biased to tell people that they CAN'T beat the market, Finance UA-camrs are biased to tell people that they CAN beat the market.

    • @hagaiak
      @hagaiak 5 місяців тому

      ​@@ccrider8483 yep. As sad as it is, money is relative.
      Others having less means your money is worth more. Pretty selfish, I know, but I care more about my friends and family than I do about strangers.

    • @LoLlOl-iq1zs
      @LoLlOl-iq1zs 4 місяці тому

      @@Allen-L-Canada You might be able to beat the market once or twice, but over time, say 10 or 20 years, most people who attempt to beat the market often lose more than they gain. Mutual funds are a prime example of this, they are hired scientists, analysts, and even AI, but they are still lost to ETFs that invest passively.

  • @dylanwarnecke1613
    @dylanwarnecke1613 3 місяці тому

    This was a fantastic video! Short, but full of critical information. Thank you!

  • @rhythmandacoustics
    @rhythmandacoustics 2 місяці тому +2

    The real question is how do you if you are good or appropriate for non index investing. I think the once you know basic finance instruments, basic financial accounting, and really know a particular industry, you are good. Peter Lynch did a good job in his 1997 lecture.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 2 місяці тому

      There are certain characteristics that companies have that make them successful the way a boxer has certain aspects that make them good.

  • @Foogle6594
    @Foogle6594 6 місяців тому +23

    In Greek mythology the Gods punish men's hubris, but I am better than these men... possibly even better than the gods themselves!

  • @tomaszpazgrat4831
    @tomaszpazgrat4831 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank U 4 this episode. I consider myself such individual. Now, I need to reconsider the way I invest. Thank U.

  • @bc41
    @bc41 6 місяців тому +1

    love the new shorter videos with cool ideas

  • @taylorism7787
    @taylorism7787 2 місяці тому

    Finally, investment advice for someone like me who is neither smart nor well-informed (especially if I’m compared to Warren Buffet).

  • @PradedaCech
    @PradedaCech 4 місяці тому +2

    My mum has investment hubris. She thinks that she correctly identified her savings account as the best investment strategy that ever existed.

  • @alexleyendaa909
    @alexleyendaa909 2 місяці тому

    hahaha I fing loved that introduction. Sick burn... and very accurate too.

  • @george6977
    @george6977 6 місяців тому +1

    👍Useful reminder.

  • @AAkCN1
    @AAkCN1 6 місяців тому

    Good as always

  • @Million_Monkey
    @Million_Monkey 6 місяців тому

    Thank u for sharing the quick issue🌟

    • @dgyson
      @dgyson 6 місяців тому

      I'd like to share some ideas with you . Use the number

  • @JLchevz
    @JLchevz 6 місяців тому +1

    This is everything most people have to know about investing. Like John Bogle says, it's simple, not easy. But it's the easiest and probably best way to invest.

  • @michaelspiano2022
    @michaelspiano2022 6 місяців тому

    When in doubt, listen to Ben.

  • @dumpsterdiver6415
    @dumpsterdiver6415 6 місяців тому

    Ben, you dont need to giggle ;) We like you the way you are.

  • @meibing4912
    @meibing4912 3 місяці тому

    Buffet has also - very clearly said - that investment funds and ETF's are great for ordinary investors. Its also on a youtube video somewhere. I have a lot of individual stocks myself - but this is also for tax reasons as very sadly I get taxed on a running basis for index fund gains and only at time of sales for individual stocks (does not make any sense imho, but the result is important to achieve tax optimized stock returns). I have beaten the market a little in average being heavily invested into IT/AI, financing and medico. Happy to accept its more luck than anything. Maybe the risk profile has also been higher in those sectors. 2022 was brutal. YMMV.

  • @ajp642
    @ajp642 6 місяців тому

    The new thumbnails are really nice

  • @vicgill1980
    @vicgill1980 6 місяців тому

    Buffett/Munger started in a different time but made most of their money in the last couple of decades. Totally agree with you Ben. Even Nasdaq up 35% in 2023

  • @Swyre
    @Swyre 6 місяців тому +3

    Yo Ben, if you want to stick to this camera setup I recommend you to put it in manual focus. Line it up to you in the chair, and make note of the setting on the lens or camera in case you accidentally move it.
    That way you avoid the depth focus flickering back and forth then the Auto-focus is overreacting to your head movements.

    • @BenFelixCSI
      @BenFelixCSI  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks. That was driving me nuts but I was having trouble getting the manual focus dialled in. I’ll try that again next time I record.

  • @pongop
    @pongop 6 місяців тому

    Interesting video! I like the core-satellite strategy.

  • @inertiaforce7846
    @inertiaforce7846 6 місяців тому +1

    Ben Felix knows what he's talking about.

  • @739jep
    @739jep 6 місяців тому +4

    The Dunning-Kruger effect seems to me to be particularly rampant in the investing community. People watch a few clips of buffet and read one book and consider themselves geniuses.

  • @jb_makesgames2264
    @jb_makesgames2264 6 місяців тому

    excellent video as always

    • @dgyson
      @dgyson 6 місяців тому

      I'd like to share some ideas with you . Use the number

  • @lukasplx9330
    @lukasplx9330 6 місяців тому +1

    Ben Felix - I completely agree but there is one thing I was wondering about. You introduce yourself as a Portfolio manager. Are you one of the few that do outperform low cost index fund investing?

  • @erniekeller1093
    @erniekeller1093 2 місяці тому

    I don't buy stocks to beat the market. I buy them for the particular combination of growth and income prospects each offer. You can't buy a fund for that, you have to create it. You'll chose high yield/no growth, mid yield/moderate growth and low yield/high growth with the proportions that combine to give you the desired balance.

  • @zdanielzoranz
    @zdanielzoranz 6 місяців тому

    Another great video - thanks Ben! I think you only blinked twice throughout the video though - you know it's allowed right? :)

  • @skzion2
    @skzion2 6 місяців тому +14

    Great stuff, Ben.
    My main objection to the S&P 500 index fund as a complete investment for US equities is that it is so dominated by large cap growth that when this is not in favor, the portfolio tanks. It can, in fact, go sideways for a decade. But an appropriate measure to address such possibilities is to deviate from cap weighting overall by including tilts to smaller and more valuey indexes. Even if there were no premiums for such tilts--and I think there are--my simulations show that on a yearly basis, there is a better chance that some part of the portfolio did ok. This is especially important in the deaccumulation phase.

    • @BenFelixCSI
      @BenFelixCSI  6 місяців тому +11

      I agree with you and disagree with Buffett on this, but that’s a topic for another day!

    • @ccrider8483
      @ccrider8483 6 місяців тому +4

      Vanguard has a total US stock fund VTSAX, and like the S&P 500 index funds it is also a weighted index. For me the total stock fund is enough diversity. For others there are obviously many other options.

    • @skzion2
      @skzion2 6 місяців тому

      @@ccrider8483 True, but Total Stock is also strongly dominated by large growth because of its cap weighting.
      I'll bet that factor tilts will mysteriously become fashionable again when the S&P reverts to its mean. When that will happen is, of course, unknowable.

    • @LG123ABC
      @LG123ABC 6 місяців тому

      @@ccrider8483 I was going to make the same comment but you beat me to it. Well stated.

    • @JeffreyJefferson
      @JeffreyJefferson 6 місяців тому

      @@ccrider8483 the overlap between the total stock market fund and the S&P500 fund is close to 90%.

  • @BnMProductions11
    @BnMProductions11 2 місяці тому

    Both sides have value. It is true that for the vast majority diversification for most of your portfolio is likely most effective. But having some plays on the market is fine. Its also hubris on his part to assume hes one of only a few hundred people as smart as him, timing the market is next to impossible, but buying into the right sector at the reasonably right time etc isnt and to think only a few hundred people can do it is a bit excessive

  • @maxpayne7419
    @maxpayne7419 6 місяців тому +1

    The small number that may be able to beat the market, would still not justify paying them a fee (eg1%).

  • @BJ-dl7ow
    @BJ-dl7ow 6 місяців тому +4

    For someone in their early 30s, what’s your opinion of dollar cost averaging into Nasdaq long term vs S&P 500? Do you think it will outperform or too risky?

    • @BenFelixCSI
      @BenFelixCSI  6 місяців тому +7

      Nasdaq is a more concentrated portfolio and will tend to contain companies with higher valuations, leading to lower expected returns. There are many other types of stocks in the market to consider. I talked about it here ua-cam.com/video/jKWbW7Wgm0w/v-deo.html

  • @mfpears
    @mfpears 4 дні тому

    When you have enough money, and if you enjoy it, managing it _should_ be more and more of your career.

  • @CleverContrarian
    @CleverContrarian 2 місяці тому

    Note to self:
    Peter Lynch’s view needs a greater profile, he suggested only having enough stocks as you would children.
    Then there is Dunbar’s number…
    MishMash these or overlap these Munger like “mental models” and the number of positions most advantageous for you to be invested is probably in between the numbers of Lynch and Dunbar…
    What works Ben, me, you or whomever might not work for you or you or you but it may, be like the Borg, assimilate everything, always be learning.

  • @jakejake7289
    @jakejake7289 2 місяці тому

    Invest in SPY and BRK-B. If you have more knowledge than most investors about an industry or a company, take a position in it. Then let time do the magic.

  • @swissarmyknight4306
    @swissarmyknight4306 6 місяців тому +3

    I might be wrong, but isn't there evidence that "getting the bug" of buying stocks tends to mean that you're more likely to have more in your portfolio simply due to contributing more? I've got half my portfolio in broad market low cost ETF's and the other half in individual stocks. The jury is still out on whether I can beat the market, but I'm sure that actively managing half my portfolio makes me put a lot more money into my account than I would otherwise. Sure those boring ETF contributions are a good investment, but the dopamine hit of buying individual shares gets me saving up extra cash to put into my account every month. Very few investors can be as coldly rational as you, Ben. Isn't there value in knowing your psychology and using it to your advantage? Maybe I will give up 0.8%, but then again, maybe I wont, since my returns are almost vertical over the last month, as I spent the last year buying up undervalued assets and money is just now flowing into things other than tech. But either way, playing the game gets me to put more cash in the market.

  • @thinktankdonahue
    @thinktankdonahue 3 місяці тому

    Warren also said don't bet against the US economy, looks like he was right and five factor international diversification is lagging behind. Past results don't guarantee future returns.

  • @MrJigssaw1989
    @MrJigssaw1989 2 місяці тому

    The way I look at it.
    By buying f.e. S&P 500 - you are somewhat diversified - but not really - you are buying 500 big companies - overwhelmingly tech on US market. If something bad happens in the US the whole market will go down. Thats why I while having most in index fund also pick few stocks in other markets - simply as to diversify risk from overrellying on US.

  • @stonks4days1
    @stonks4days1 6 місяців тому

    The financial space is where the prideful become the humbled. Getting lucky a few times on stock picks is no different than getting lucky a few times at the roulette wheel. You can make money investing but it must be diversified and long time horizons. You can also make money trading stocks and ETFs but that's an entirely different game with different rules

  • @davidesalerno_68
    @davidesalerno_68 6 місяців тому +7

    Great video, as usual!
    Let's put it like that: with all due respect...if you are watching investment videos on youtube, chances are you do not fall in Buffett's category of "expert investors" ;-)

  • @talwarmeister
    @talwarmeister 6 місяців тому

    Hey ben, Instead of talking about what an average investor should do, which i think could benefit from diversification, what do you do as a experienced investor ?

  • @rafaelvalerofernande
    @rafaelvalerofernande 2 місяці тому

    Wondering about the current solution; this is diversify portfolios and how they will bare the future. Most of the references are considering to the past 100 years, just wondering about a future that could be very different: a) China, or other countries rises, b) effects of climate change, c) a potential decrease of population (follow Solow models or other economic models, populations growth and technologies upgrades are core for economics growth), e) technological changes (such as AI), f) as passive fund dominate the market how ownership will lead the development of companies, ....

  • @IOverlord
    @IOverlord 2 місяці тому

    I am an investor. I am an investor. I AM AN INVESTOR! I AM AN INVESTOR BEN!!!

  • @user-lj5oj3rk3q
    @user-lj5oj3rk3q Місяць тому

    I'm not Warren Buffet, I only have some FDI returning 96%+ annually, but I'm happy with that rate of return.

  • @sakarikaristo4976
    @sakarikaristo4976 3 місяці тому

    You know more about academic finance than I do, and you have presented what academic literature has produced. Is there any study on stock returns and returns to shareholders (incremental net worth per share plus dividends)? If yes, does that translate to a strategy that would earn better than average returns? If yes, what factors influence companies to add net worth and dividends at higher than average rates? Would an investor be capable of detecting those?

  • @jamessmithson-br7rm
    @jamessmithson-br7rm 2 місяці тому +1

    No, portfolio manager at some investment firm I’ve never heard of… he was in fact not taking about you… my portfolio outperforms the market year in and year out

  • @robinspanier7017
    @robinspanier7017 4 місяці тому

    its funny how he stated a few words before: against ignorance
    and then all people jump on the quote, beeing ignorant about their true capability and ability and willingness to beat the market. its actually hillarius when you think about it.
    imagine you see a professional runner and you say: yeah i can run as fast as he does, no problem!
    the same thing.

  • @joofbing
    @joofbing 6 місяців тому +2

    I mean I know exactly I’m doing. I just don’t know if what I’m doing will outperform the market 😂😂😂

  • @MatthewMS.
    @MatthewMS. 2 місяці тому

    I went all in amzn 2015-2021 then flipped to all in nvda 2021-march 2024. I am a 41 year old retired professional after 20 year career.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 2 місяці тому

      So how did you pick those companies?

  • @millenialmusings8451
    @millenialmusings8451 4 місяці тому +1

    The irony is if people took this advice to heart, your viewership would decline substantially as there would be no real reason to watch your channel 😄

  • @tomlorenz4344
    @tomlorenz4344 2 місяці тому

    It doesn’t take that much education to make solid stock picks, though it does take some! Also Index funds and ETFs are very heavily invested in a dozen or so very large cap stocks, several with scary high PE ratios. While it is difficult for one of Buffets investment managers to shrewdly invest, due to such huge sums of money they must manage, small individual investors have much more flexibility. They can invest in smaller cap companies without inadvertently taking them over, or triggering FTC action.

  • @lt8833
    @lt8833 6 місяців тому +1

    Please review terry Smith's strategy

  • @Cat-zc8nj
    @Cat-zc8nj 6 місяців тому +3

    Instructions unclear. I now own 50 index funds.

  • @ajbahlam
    @ajbahlam 6 місяців тому +1

    Hi Ben, thanks for your video! I wonder why S&P 500? Last time you mentioned small-cap value stocks are better, so why Buffett does not recommend that kind of index instead?

    • @BenFelixCSI
      @BenFelixCSI  6 місяців тому +3

      Buffett is a big believer in American capitalism. I think diversification is worthwhile.

  • @Marque734
    @Marque734 6 місяців тому +1

    I fail to understand how diversification increases performance. It should just decrease variance, by giving an average over all stocks.
    So if I just buy a couple of stocks, which since I have no idea what I am doing are basically chosen randomly, I'd expect the same results as an index fund. Obviously, I need to buy and hold it the same way I do with the fund and shouldn't start trading, which causes opportunity and transactions costs.
    Where am I wrong? Choosing sp500 stocks in monkey dart style has the same expected performance as just buying a sp500 index fund.

    • @SeaJay4444
      @SeaJay4444 5 місяців тому

      Diversification increases performance in the sense that it reduces risk, the variability of your outcome, without reducing expected return. That's why it's called a free lunch.
      By buying a randomly selected subset of stocks from the index, your expected return is the same, but the distribution of possible outcomes is a lot more lottery-like and much less consistent. You are less sure that you'll actually get the expected return.
      The reason you'd make a concentrated investment is to make a moonshot, a big gamble with an unlikely but very lucrative payoff.

  • @jamesbailey754
    @jamesbailey754 6 місяців тому +5

    People always say "diversification is protection against ignorance", implying that it's a bad idea. But the thing is even if you are one of the people who can beat the market, you ARE still ignorant. There will be events that no one can predict that you are ignorant of and can cause your investment to crash. People would say "my investment would have done well if this XX event hadn't happened!" but those events do happen, and the fact that you didn't plan for the unexpected shows that you are not as good at this as you think

  • @judahokonkwo3866
    @judahokonkwo3866 6 місяців тому

    What do you guys think about a nasdaq etf like qqq?

  • @devilsadvocate2643
    @devilsadvocate2643 3 місяці тому

    Nice video, glad to see I am realistically ignorant and just bought some american and world-wide ETFs and am done with it for the next 15 years.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 2 місяці тому

      People who bought S&P in 1999 had to wait 15 years to start getting growth.

  • @brianreher3727
    @brianreher3727 6 місяців тому

    Ben, I like this advice from Buffett, but you also made a great point about international stocks. Shouldn't I have some money in an international stock fund too? Also, wouldn't it make sense for me to slightly weight my portfolio towards growth focused etfs such as QQQ and rebalance?

    • @BenFelixCSI
      @BenFelixCSI  6 місяців тому

      I agree on International. I (hesitantly, given who he is) disagree with Buffett on this. He believes in American capitalism specifically.
      On QQQ, I do not agree. Growth stocks do not tend to deliver higher returns in the long-run. The Nasdaq 100 has been an anomaly.

  • @CandymanJrMint
    @CandymanJrMint 6 місяців тому

    I dabble in everything like Buffet has in his investing career

  • @BM_100
    @BM_100 2 місяці тому

    Warren Buffett gets really good deals on his acquisitions and tends to buy cheap by making the deal so complex, that the target company usually doesn't know what the exact or full consequences are.
    Buffett tried to acquire Dow Chemical but Dow Chemical refused after learning that Buffett was basically going to give them a raw deal.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 2 місяці тому

      That is not even close to the truth. Buffett buys companies on the basis of worth to Berkshire. That means those companies have a value and some times those companies are not as valuable as they think.

  • @enisbayramoglu2948
    @enisbayramoglu2948 6 місяців тому +4

    Hi Ben, I understand the message here and I truly believe it in the case of an investor trying to pick stocks from market data or news articles etc. But something I never see discussed in this context is whether this still applies in the case of a skilled veteran in a given industry picking stocks from their domain of expertise. For example, I've been in the software business for almost 20 years now and I've dedicated most of my life understanding this craft and its real world applications as well as the human dynamics inside software companies. So when I read about a press release from a company, I form an opinion based on 20 years of experience, so shouldn't I believe there to be some sort of alpha in it?

    • @dglynch222
      @dglynch222 6 місяців тому +8

      One question to ask yourself is whether your experience and insight is unique. To get significant alpha from your personal knowledge, you don't just need to beat the average market participant, you need to beat all other market participants, including all the ones who may have similar experience and background as you.
      Consider this: if you go to an auction and see an item that appears to be undervalued, you might be able to get it for a good price, but only if you're the only one in the room who notices it. If two or more people notice the true value of the item, it won't sell below that true value because two knowledgeable and well-backed bidders are enough to find the correct price, even if there are thousands of people at the auction, and even if the seller or auctioneer has no idea of the item's value.

    • @enisbayramoglu2948
      @enisbayramoglu2948 6 місяців тому

      @@dglynch222 Thank you for your thoughtful response. I like the auction house analogy, but it's not a perfect analogy since an item on auction is singular, so a single knowledgeable rival can set the price, but in the stock market a small minority of knowledgeable participants in the same field probably won't have the funds (and the risk appetite) to move the price completely to its actual value. For example, the world at large learned about ChatGPT around early 2023, but it was very obvious to the practitioners since as early as late 2020 that a revolution was imminent, but the market still made its main reaction when the revolution became obvious to the public.

    • @Mackenway
      @Mackenway 6 місяців тому +2

      By the time you've read the press release, it's likely too late.

    • @chrisf1600
      @chrisf1600 6 місяців тому

      There are tens of millions of people in the world who have 20+ years experience developing software, it's hardly a niche skill. What do you know that they don't ?

    • @enisbayramoglu2948
      @enisbayramoglu2948 6 місяців тому

      @@chrisf1600 I don't have to know anything that none of them don't, it's not like if one of them had the same insight he would have the capital to correct the market all by himself. I just need to have an intuition that's better than the market's capital-weighted-average intuition.
      If I think I have a solid understanding of a very specific domain, why can it not be considered arbitrage trading when I disagree with the market?

  • @michaeldo1988
    @michaeldo1988 6 місяців тому

    savage bro

  • @seniorkevin
    @seniorkevin 2 місяці тому

    Question: why would I need my portfolio managed and why do portfolio managers exist because you can just buy s&p 500?

  • @egal1780
    @egal1780 6 місяців тому +1

    Something in my mind still Makes me believe that there must be Irrationality in the Market. But those premiums cover basically everything that would make me expect a Higher Return (e.g. value, size, quality and profitability). It's unbelievable to Accept that Markets can be Efficient, when at the Same time falling victims to Bubbles and Crashes in such a predictable Fashion. (Predictable as in that It will Happen, but it's only known after the fact when the Peak/through Has Been reached).

    • @BenFelixCSI
      @BenFelixCSI  6 місяців тому +13

      Markets can be irrational and difficult to beat at the same time. Irrational does not mean predictable in a way that they can be beaten easily.

    • @egal1780
      @egal1780 6 місяців тому +1

      @@BenFelixCSI That Sounds sensible.
      I Just feel Like those Kinds of Asset mispricings should give speculators the Chance to Bet on the convergance closing (If it eventually raises to Levels Like the 1920s or 2000).
      It Just feels Like that is a scratch in the Efficient Market hypothesis, making It Seem Like there might be More to the entire story. But I guess that There's nothing to argue about it. There doesn't Seem to be a way to Beat the Market...
      Something Just Makes me believe that those systematic errors Often Seem Like they're occuring in repeating cycles that Seem to be quite similar. E.g. high momentum During euphoria before It comes crashing down even faster.
      But investing in small cap value Stocks with high profitability Stocks is probably still the best. It's Just sad that Access to Low Cost Index Funds for those premiums is extremely Limited...

    • @BenFelixCSI
      @BenFelixCSI  6 місяців тому +10

      I’ll make a short video with a clip from one of the founders of behavioural finance explaining why index still make sense even if people are irrational.

    • @egal1780
      @egal1780 6 місяців тому +1

      @@BenFelixCSI That sounds like a good idea, thanks.
      Maybe finance is just one of those places munger would have called "too hard to solve"...

  • @mariahsmom9457
    @mariahsmom9457 6 місяців тому +1

    "... delivered in esoteric gibberish..." burn!😃

  • @last-life
    @last-life 6 місяців тому

    How many years does it take beating the s&p to be qualified with you know what you are doing? Mind you stock market is only 15 percent of my portfolio

  • @oscarhope
    @oscarhope 2 місяці тому

    2:27 Perhaps this is a somewhat dumb/off-target question, but is the magnitude of "active share" measured in terms of how much *performance/return* deviates from the relevant benchmark index, or in terms of the proportion of held shares/share types that the benchmark index doesn't include?

    • @BenFelixCSI
      @BenFelixCSI  2 місяці тому

      Active share measures how much an equity portfolio’s holdings differ from the benchmark index based on constituent weights. It can be increased by including stocks that are not in the benchmark, excluding stocks that are in the benchmark, and holding benchmark stocks in different weights than the benchmark.

  • @alexhill7305
    @alexhill7305 6 місяців тому

    I am thankful I discovered early in life that I don't have the time or talent to actively manage a low-diversity portfolio. As my father might have said: cheap tuition.

  • @SigFigNewton
    @SigFigNewton 6 місяців тому

    “Please share with some who has investment hubris”
    Emailed to self and saved to watch later
    But the longer I keep beating the market, the more of my money I’ll allocate to individual stocks rather than index funds…

  • @michaelkilian2673
    @michaelkilian2673 6 місяців тому +3

    Ben Felix- as someone who watches a lot of your videos, im genuinely curious how this advice is balanced with your role as portfolio manager at PWL capital. The tag line on your website mentions serving “High net worth clients”, and your video mentions that they are unlikely to benefit from more complex investment strategies. There seems to be some nuance that im probably missing.

    • @willdiaz943
      @willdiaz943 6 місяців тому +3

      He has a video - what is (good) financial advice - that in summary says his job is to help people develop better goals as well as behavior management. He basically keeps the hubris in check for his clients.

    • @Allen-L-Canada
      @Allen-L-Canada 6 місяців тому

      Fund managers are biased to tell people that they CAN'T beat the market, Finance UA-camrs are biased to tell people that they CAN beat the market.

  • @amandasmith1920
    @amandasmith1920 6 місяців тому +2

    I promise Warren Buffet wasn't talking about me.
    I don't index I factor invest and I am prepared to live and die by a simple model.
    I CANT STOCK PICK IF I wanted too.

  • @nerojay2105
    @nerojay2105 2 місяці тому

    When he said “people who know what they’re doing” he meant people who know what’s going to happen.

  • @Empowerrr
    @Empowerrr 2 місяці тому

    Timing the market? What about simply buying dips?

  • @Kadnani1007
    @Kadnani1007 6 місяців тому

    Ben, I've been looking for the Buffet quote on the Mega rich not following the advice for over a year. Thanks for sharing it. Could you share the source, please? Thank you

    • @BenFelixCSI
      @BenFelixCSI  6 місяців тому +1

      References are linked in the description!

  • @TheUndulyNoted
    @TheUndulyNoted 3 місяці тому

    Stop telling them! Their hubris and stock evaluation keeps my index funds price efficient!

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan 6 місяців тому

    It's about risk and complex systems 😬

  • @scrambaba
    @scrambaba 2 місяці тому

    An etf portfolio is not by definition diverse. It can be, but it can easily not be diverse.