I knew that this frame would be springy-twisty, I was mostly concerned about that log snapping and sending itself off catapulting etc. Great work again ;)
Great idea. Never thought about doing it that way before. Just give the frame a few taps with a heavy hammer on the frame where it was twisted should do the job. Hopefully the frame does not have any weak spots
“That used to barely fit in there...”. Still does barely fit in there!! LOL Keep rolling John! You have a great attitude and I appreciate you and your hard work and can do attitude!
Very nice, very nice. Love the method. Yankee ingenuity at its finest. This reminds me of something i would do lol. Reminds me of trying to straighten a trailer axle after hitting a stump in the center. Got it pretty straight too.
Good work... video came up as some random while searching for the new Stihl MS500. growing up logging I can appreciate this 100%. Now that I'm in the welding/repair/fabrication field, Id suggest leaving a log on it to preload it, heat up the contours of the frame with a rosebud torch. you can also take a heavy dead blow sledge (the plastic ones with steel shot inside) as it is preloaded to help relive some of the self induced stress points to help relax it. Keep an eye those welds.
In time that frame will go back the way it was. Steel has a memory and wants to go back to original form. We had a 19 axle trailer that twisted and then put in the yard because it was not usable. It sat for many months and went back to normal with out touching it.
by taking a sledge hammer and beating on the rails while flexing the rails. it should relieve some of the stress and make the rails assume a new normal. otherwise heat . lots of heat but that is something more suited for a shop. like you said field expedient repair it just has to be good enough.
Hi John, I thought that would work. There was a bunch of us that thought it would. That hard maple is dam tough. Was worried that it might break but it didn't even hardly bend. Good enough for who it's for!!😀😀 Take care my friend!!! Your friend Al.
Told you so......... We have straightened log trailer frames like that. I would clean it up good enough to check all the welded joints and touch them up if need be. Glad it all worked out.
that's Rock or sugar maple.... the stuff high end butcher block work tops are made out of, baseball bats, bowling alley floors, etc. true name is sugar maple, one of the hardest woods out there. It got the name rock maple from the properties it has
I wasn't sure how much you could reef on it with a tree trunk, that surprised me being a guy that works with steel, I'm guessing you being the wood guy learned something about how far you got to twist steel past straight to get it to sit back right. Not being there actually seeing or having a feel for what was happening, had me sitting on the edge of my seat waiting for a huge bang as something let fly. Hopefully A famous UA-cam welding channel host watches this and realizes not everybody that comments is an armchair expert and some of us can actually do this stuff we write about . It was good to see the plan come together, and hopefully it stays straight. That might be fun getting it off a 5th wheel plate if the twist comes back, while it's being towed and binds the pin up. Thanks for taking us on the journey with the repairs so far. Take care guys
Of course it'll work. With a Set of forks I would've put the forks through where the pole was and set the heel on the other side, THEN reefed on it! That way the twist could be maxed on the lower part and you could move the upper to suit yourself BUT it worked just fine. AND it's not on the highway hauling grindings either! You did GOOD and a site less that $300K! THAT is what matters. It's PAID for and what little you have to put into it to get it back to going will be paid for right quickly when the saw starts singing. And you know you can swap sides with that saw like you were talking about too, pal! So Prayers, BLESSINGS and Goomerish and maybe Fishy Hugs!
Good job done!! 👏🏻 So glad something didn’t happen to you when you walked up on that while straightening it. Good video looks like things are getting back to full production and no 🔥! Lol “Please Be safe” and as you say keep on rolling!
This is a classic case of the elastic limit on the stress-strain curve being exceeded. The steel in various places exceeded the elastic limit, and strain was introduced, with no appreciable stress (load carrying capacity). Basic strength of materials in any college level course. When twisting back, the permanent set in the strain curve was not erased, although the stress levels may have returned to zero. In other words, a permanent plastic set was left in the steel members in some places, never to be removed. The frame may have been returned to a horizontal position, but that does not mean permanent inherent stress levels through the frame were returned to their former levels. Since there are internal stresses not there previously, the frame will probably undergo some distortion, returning to a slight non-horizontal position. The stress will attempt to redistribute itself when it is moved, put under further loads when the slasher is moved, and put into operation. Don't be surprised to see it move a bit after you use it for while. You may have helped alleviate some of that, if you would have driven it around the yard for some distance, then looked to see if you big stick could have been used to reset it again in a better way. Probably the biggest variant stress levels in the frame will happen when you hook up the fifth wheel and tow it to another site, and drag it through some rough terrain (Yes, I am sure that will happen ;-) ) In any case, kudos for the strategy and execution of a plan.
Easy to get square a quarter hour after it rolled, but the next day the metal has set :o) Makes you think about the forces involved to bend all the bent bits in that one accident.
Yes john, keep rollin i think you could have used a slightly different strategy. I think if you had used some heat out come couldve been better. I see problems down the road for this machine.
Hay John your king pin on the slasher you might put a semi fifth wheel plate upside down recessed for the truck to back under and hook up your we’re talking about having to stick the boom in the ground to lift it it might help solve your problem.just a thought
@@ThatChipperGuy 😂🤣 Yes...I am an accident waiting to happen! But seriously...I have been blown away with how she has straightened backup. Truly impressed and your subs often have some good ideas as well. 😁
Who says we need to cal in outside mechanics? If the loggers down south can fix it with minimal tools so can we. Both down south and up in Michigan to. Use an old quote " WE CAN DO IT!!!!!!! " it won't be purtty but it will do the job when we're done fixing her. See? There is a use for old demolition concrete chunks!!!! I can remember seeing this done back in 56 and the owner who directed the old Bucyrus crane old cable sucker from WW II ex US Army a local wrecker service told him he would never get it out of there on a Thursday, Friday afternoon he went out of his way to drive by his shop with it loaded on a flatbed stopped at his shop simply to spend $.10 cents to buy two bottles of Coca-Cola one for him and one for me which surprised the devil out of me. It was an excavator on an old CCKW chassis and it had a cable operated backhoe on it and it was back to work the following Monday. The job site was only half a mile from my house and it took me 15 minutes on my new one speed bicycle from xmas. Nice job guys and for recognizing you needed professional wrecker services. Cheers!!!
Made for a great thumbnail and had to chuckle a bit too. But she's sweet now and got some more character to her too. You guys do car frames on your days off?
I don't know why it works I just know it to take a #3 hammer beat it along the frame rails with it twisted and it only go back to about straight have a good day keep pushing
btw, you got pins squeeking...you better remove them, grease them (if they are not shut...) put them back, and make sure you grease them properly from now on...its hard for mecanics to hear squeeking sounds....
I would've never gotten so close to the frame while it was being tensioned to bend it back, let alone bow over it. You never know when a connection snaps off. Could have sent a bolthead or half of the frame into your guts.
That repair is "good enough" to get it back to the shop where more permanent repairs can be effected. Doesn't look like that would be the first frame work that machine has had either.
When you have such long hoses between the pump and valve I guess you already know you have to bleed off the air because of the short stroke of cylinder.
Funny seeing someone rig up chains for rock like it's a log. Rock and concrete dont need choked with chains only if it's a cable. It still worked I know. I just think it was funny.
A true bush fix. Beats the daylights out of a new replacement. Fun to watch problem solving real time.
I knew that this frame would be springy-twisty, I was mostly concerned about that log snapping and sending itself off catapulting etc. Great work again ;)
The hard maple did the trick!
Some do and make the world go round, everyone else just hangs on. You are a doer, well done.
Thanks!!
Congrats on no major repair to get it back close in shape! Love ya videos
Great idea. Never thought about doing it that way before. Just give the frame a few taps with a heavy hammer on the frame where it was twisted should do the job. Hopefully the frame does not have any weak spots
Great idea with the maple......if you can pinpoint your actual bend spot and put a lil heat to it with the torch she should stay in place
GLAD THAT LOG WORKED GREAT JOB DONE GREAT MECHANICS GREAT CREW
“That used to barely fit in there...”. Still does barely fit in there!! LOL Keep rolling John! You have a great attitude and I appreciate you and your hard work and can do attitude!
Very nice, very nice. Love the method. Yankee ingenuity at its finest. This reminds me of something i would do lol.
Reminds me of trying to straighten a trailer axle after hitting a stump in the center. Got it pretty straight too.
Good work... video came up as some random while searching for the new Stihl MS500. growing up logging I can appreciate this 100%. Now that I'm in the welding/repair/fabrication field, Id suggest leaving a log on it to preload it, heat up the contours of the frame with a rosebud torch. you can also take a heavy dead blow sledge (the plastic ones with steel shot inside) as it is preloaded to help relive some of the self induced stress points to help relax it. Keep an eye those welds.
I m impressed that that worked that well ! Another job well done.
In time that frame will go back the way it was. Steel has a memory and wants to go back to original form. We had a 19 axle trailer that twisted and then put in the yard because it was not usable. It sat for many months and went back to normal with out touching it.
by taking a sledge hammer and beating on the rails while flexing the rails. it should relieve some of the stress and make the rails assume a new normal. otherwise heat . lots of heat but that is something more suited for a shop. like you said field expedient repair it just has to be good enough.
Well big John what a last few weeks well done and I love the way you worked it out with no drama.good on you guys.
Hi John, I thought that would work. There was a bunch of us that thought it would. That hard maple is dam tough. Was worried that it might break but it didn't even hardly bend.
Good enough for who it's for!!😀😀
Take care my friend!!!
Your friend Al.
Total carnage. Lol. I had faith in you guys!
Told you so......... We have straightened log trailer frames like that. I would clean it up good enough to check all the welded joints and touch them up if need be. Glad it all worked out.
👍👍
Glad the suggestion worked I had no doubts about it not working nicely done.
Yay Me ,, lol at least I was one of many who spoke of a log leaver ,,, lolol Glad it worked ,, Regards John
I can't believe how stiff that maple is. I figured it would at least bow, adding to the pucker factor!
that's Rock or sugar maple.... the stuff high end butcher block work tops are made out of, baseball bats, bowling alley floors, etc. true name is sugar maple, one of the hardest woods out there. It got the name rock maple from the properties it has
@@Freakingstang Thanks for the info. In Az, all we have are Rock's...no maples. Ha!
I have used Mold Weld 750 welding rod to fix cast manifolds before, works great no preheat and only a slow cool. have had great luck with this rod.
That Chipper Guy frame and body shop! Could be the start of another business venture! 😉
I did not realize that the crane powered down as well. Very good job. Now all you have to do is turn the saw around.
I wasn't sure how much you could reef on it with a tree trunk, that surprised me being a guy that works with steel, I'm guessing you being the wood guy learned something about how far you got to twist steel past straight to get it to sit back right. Not being there actually seeing or having a feel for what was happening, had me sitting on the edge of my seat waiting for a huge bang as something let fly.
Hopefully A famous UA-cam welding channel host watches this and realizes not everybody that comments is an armchair expert and some of us can actually do this stuff we write about . It was good to see the plan come together, and hopefully it stays straight. That might be fun getting it off a 5th wheel plate if the twist comes back, while it's being towed and binds the pin up. Thanks for taking us on the journey with the repairs so far. Take care guys
Thanks for watching!
those are good old loaders i had a early 80.s 160 with the dog leg heel boom loved it !
It just keeps on tickin!!
Of course it'll work. With a Set of forks I would've put the forks through where the pole was and set the heel on the other side, THEN reefed on it! That way the twist could be maxed on the lower part and you could move the upper to suit yourself BUT it worked just fine. AND it's not on the highway hauling grindings either! You did GOOD and a site less that $300K! THAT is what matters. It's PAID for and what little you have to put into it to get it back to going will be paid for right quickly when the saw starts singing. And you know you can swap sides with that saw like you were talking about too, pal! So Prayers, BLESSINGS and Goomerish and maybe Fishy Hugs!
Should have wacked it with a sled while it was under pressure it relieves the stress in the metal helps it stay in place
Isn't it odd, it only took about 30 seconds to bend the frame and yet it took 30 minutes to straighten it.
good as new! you do really quick an easy body work
Coming right along be good as new once everything is done. Keep up the great videos
Good job done!! 👏🏻 So glad something didn’t happen to you when you walked up on that while straightening it. Good video looks like things are getting back to full production and no 🔥! Lol “Please Be safe” and as you say keep on rolling!
Thanks UL
The log worked good improvise adapt and overcome will be runnin like new soon hope the week goes better John
Tweaked her back, good job ty for the entertainment
This is a classic case of the elastic limit on the stress-strain curve being exceeded. The steel in various places exceeded the elastic limit, and strain was introduced, with no appreciable stress (load carrying capacity). Basic strength of materials in any college level course. When twisting back, the permanent set in the strain curve was not erased, although the stress levels may have returned to zero. In other words, a permanent plastic set was left in the steel members in some places, never to be removed. The frame may have been returned to a horizontal position, but that does not mean permanent inherent stress levels through the frame were returned to their former levels. Since there are internal stresses not there previously, the frame will probably undergo some distortion, returning to a slight non-horizontal position. The stress will attempt to redistribute itself when it is moved, put under further loads when the slasher is moved, and put into operation. Don't be surprised to see it move a bit after you use it for while. You may have helped alleviate some of that, if you would have driven it around the yard for some distance, then looked to see if you big stick could have been used to reset it again in a better way. Probably the biggest variant stress levels in the frame will happen when you hook up the fifth wheel and tow it to another site, and drag it through some rough terrain (Yes, I am sure that will happen ;-) )
In any case, kudos for the strategy and execution of a plan.
Y'all have enough mountain dew bottles there to fill 3 chip trailers lol
shake the wheel when u start them ole deere skidders
Great job. I knew you could do it!
Good job guys good bush fix
Some of us lads have been through this before John that's why our ideas work lol
Nice job boyz. Just keep rollin
just another day in the woods nothing to see here !!!!! keep on pluggin !!!!
one way of doing it .. glad it worked out
Barko bends but it don’t break. That should be their new slogan!
Whoever welded that fame for that kingpin is the man. Holyfuckingweld
LOL awesome, no worse for the wear. It's got character and a story
Glad to see that worked without breaking something.
Great job 👍
nicely done. did not think of that method.
Easy to get square a quarter hour after it rolled, but the next day the metal has set :o) Makes you think about the forces involved to bend all the bent bits in that one accident.
Yes john, keep rollin i think you could have used a slightly different strategy. I think if you had used some heat out come couldve been better. I see problems down the road for this machine.
Time will tell
May need a tune up over the next couple months, eventually it will settle in and stay straight.
told u it would buff right out, u guys did a awesome job !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for Watching
Hay John your king pin on the slasher you might put a semi fifth wheel plate upside down recessed for the truck to back under and hook up your we’re talking about having to stick the boom in the ground to lift it it might help solve your problem.just a thought
I would of just kept putting more pressure on it to spring it back until it started to sound expensive, then back it off a bit lol
Put a little paint on it and it will be new and probably have a warranty on it 👍
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Bryon 6180 stole my comment.lol
@@ThatChipperGuy Custom by crash and crunch!
YOu can add the welding.
Great minds think alike 😂
Standing that close to the action all the time is going to bite you one of these days.
ha-ha thats was i was thinking ! cool beans good luck buddy !
Don’t forget to weld that crack
Now that was slick
Great job great video
Well done John it worked
Thats exactly what i was thinking to straighten the frame put a log in it and twist it back
Pretty good fix next time you got to pull concrete out use a choker chain works better but we'll don't again
Looks good enough from here too me.
Good job
You are official invited to my next wreck! Nice work!😎
😂
@@ThatChipperGuy 😂🤣 Yes...I am an accident waiting to happen! But seriously...I have been blown away with how she has straightened backup. Truly impressed and your subs often have some good ideas as well. 😁
Hope you welded some more metal on that after twisting it like that
You sure got some balls standing that close to that log when he’s doing that I would never do that myself lol
i call that idiot ,,that logging show there is no safety at all and one day will be to late
Who says we need to cal in outside mechanics? If the loggers down south can fix it with minimal tools so can we.
Both down south and up in Michigan to. Use an old quote " WE CAN DO IT!!!!!!! " it won't be purtty but it will do the job when we're done fixing her. See? There is a use for old demolition concrete chunks!!!!
I can remember seeing this done back in 56 and the owner who directed the old Bucyrus crane old cable sucker from WW II ex US Army a local wrecker service told him he would never get it out of there on a Thursday, Friday afternoon he went out of his way to drive by his shop with it loaded on a flatbed stopped at his shop simply to spend $.10 cents to buy two bottles of Coca-Cola one for him and one for me which surprised the devil out of me. It was an excavator on an old CCKW chassis and it had a cable operated backhoe on it and it was back to work the following Monday. The job site was only half a mile from my house and it took me 15 minutes on my new one speed bicycle from xmas.
Nice job guys and for recognizing you needed professional wrecker services.
Cheers!!!
Brilliant. I don't care what they say about you John, you're pretty clever.
Made for a great thumbnail and had to chuckle a bit too. But she's sweet now and got some more character to her too. You guys do car frames on your days off?
Noooo!! Thanks for watching
great idea good too go.
I don't know why it works I just know it to take a #3 hammer beat it along the frame rails with it twisted and it only go back to about straight have a good day keep pushing
Just a sledge hammer... distress the metal. Not sure how much itd work with the steel this cold
btw, you got pins squeeking...you better remove them, grease them (if they are not shut...) put them back, and make sure you grease them properly from now on...its hard for mecanics to hear squeeking sounds....
I had my doubts Mr John,but that loader may just be built for prescission adjustments. Lol
Good work! Great idea!
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Nice fix 👍
Great job.
I would've never gotten so close to the frame while it was being tensioned to bend it back, let alone bow over it. You never know when a connection snaps off. Could have sent a bolthead or half of the frame into your guts.
That repair is "good enough" to get it back to the shop where more permanent repairs can be effected. Doesn't look like that would be the first frame work that machine has had either.
As we used to say in the army good enough for government work
Just like new
When its band just hit the frame with a sledgehammer!!!!
When you have such long hoses between the pump and valve I guess you already know you have to bleed off the air because of the short stroke of cylinder.
Good job boys
I like it,machine fixed itself
Its amazing how quiet the 535D is. You were filming right next to it and hardly made a sound.
Good job!
Im impressed that worked great use it dude
At least it sounds sweet lol
Funny seeing someone rig up chains for rock like it's a log. Rock and concrete dont need choked with chains only if it's a cable. It still worked I know. I just think it was funny.
good work boyz !
Good as it was before
Na.... better!
What was that popping your Torque wrench!!! LOL.
How’s it going I take it things are going on the up also lol frame straightening101 with chipper
My uncle has the same machine except his has the buzz saw blade
Good job tho. saves boss man some cash lol
I think you would say You got her done, no?
I knw when that thing came out of the ditch you would be twisting on it with a saw log.
Why was there concrete above the steer axle?