HEADRUSH PRIME - BIG Promises.. | Guitar FX Review
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Hi, my name is James. I am a full time filmmaker and founder of the Content Creation agency severnwave.com as well as the founder/songwriter of my musical baby "Kill Deluxe". Aside from filmmaking, music and guitar is also a huge passion of mine. Chilled Guitar Reviews is my creative outlet to engage with other like minded people through feature videos, livestreams, original music performances and tutorials. I am always grateful for any and all engagement/viewership and am committed to uploading new videos regularly. Take care of yourselves and I'll see you soon!
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BC Rich Shredzilla Prophecy w/Fishman Fluence
Headrush Prime
Headrush FRFR112
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Reaper DAW
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Hey guys, just a note on the Vocal Processing tools in this unit. I am not a vocalist, have no idea what constitutes good vocal effects, and honestly will never use them. Therefore I felt it best not to comment on them with an uninformed opinion. As a Guitarist I consider them a happy bonus! : )
Thank you for the shout out. Great video as always. Very professional!
Always a pleasure to recommend a quality channel such as yours mate! All the best from the UK.
You brought the gear review on a new level ! I always watch your videos like a good movie !
Very kind comments mate thank you, I do my best! :-D
Killer riffs on your intro!!! Thanks for sharing this with us all!!!
Thank you for watching! 😁
Just got a Headrush Pedalboard. Found your great channel. Had to subscribe. Very well done. Can't wait to download some of your patches!
This profiled all my amps perfectly, no complaints here!!
Great to hear. What amps out of interest?
@@ChilledGuitarReviews Marshall JCM 900, JCM 2000, Peavey 6505 and Triple XXX
@@buriedinconcreteusa nice! Triple X is so underrated! Absolutely crushing sounding amp.
Can I ask, does it clone guitar fx pedals if you wanted to save them in this?
@@jasonl1942 yes it can although i have not done it..
I recently acquired a Prime two weeks ago. My previous Multi FX unit was a Pod Go Wireless. I think the Prime is worth the price of entry. It does everything I need it to do, sounds really good, and the touchscreen is easy to navigate and create.
The wireless functionality is something I have used a surprising amount!
Great production quality mate. I appreciate your objective and well thought out approach to reviews. I just ordered one of these earlier today because I think it offers incredible prospects for the lifecycle of the product. There’s great tech in this system and I think it will drastically improve over time with firmware updates. (I have confidence in InMusic because of the amazing progress they’ve made on the Denon DJ Prime4 with EngineDJ since firmware 2.0. Seeing as this is aimed to compete with the flagship big-dogs, I have no doubt this device will receive great care and attention in its lifespan.) I’ve not used much hardware modeling yet, and was originally planning to get an HX Stomp XL, but was seriously intrigued by this product that I splurged and went for it. My use case will be exclusively studio so the large form factor is actually a plus for me. It may not be for everyone, but I think this will be a game changer, much like the Helix was in its early days. Keep up the great work.
Excellent let us know how you get on with it? Im really looking forward to seeing what updates come for this unit it has massive potential! Thank you for watching!
Just invested in the Headrush ecosystem, I've got an MX5 but this video gives me good insights into their system. Awesome production quality on the vid too! Thanks. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Welcome and thanks for watching! Check out my other Headrush videos on the channel tonnes of free presets/IR's etc that will work with your MX5!
If it weren’t for the amp cloning feature and vocal effects I wouldn’t have even considered it, I will however wait for a sale/a new patch before I pull the trigger on it, this seems to be the perfect blend of a guitarist’s and vocalists FX unit for me, plus’s I’ve always preferred the sounds on this compared to a helix.
Great video as always! Keep up the good work!
Same here mate always preferred the way Headrush sounds/feels over Helix. Thanks for your kind ongoing support as ever! :-D
Great video. 👍
As always great review, and your prediction was correct. HR Core to the rescue. Smaller form factor Just got it a couple days ago. The tones are great especially the re-valve heads. I also would love to see an open market made avail through the cloud. I have friends that are builders and now I finally have the tech to be able to keep their creations during R&D.
Love your HR content, keep it coming!
I am chilled
Same here dude I ended up downsizing to the Core after doing a video on it and absolutely love it. Thanks for watching and the support!
As a Previously Mx5 and now a Gigboard user, i'm just waiting for the Gigboard Prime version of this monster, great video as always, cheers mate!
Me too! Will be the one to have I reckon. Thanks for watching!
You didn't have to wait long! The Headrush Core was just announced and I have one arriving tomorrow for review!
Good review! I've got a Prime and really glad.
I will wait for your new Prime tutorial videos... expression pedal configurations could be a good tutorial one! ;)
Working on some new free presets soon!
Really enjoyed your review, many thanks! I love what I am hearing from my unit so far. I had the Helix, but imho, I always thought it sounded a touch hollow. I also have the GT1000, and love the sounds from that, but find it frustrating to program. I’m finding it really easy to dial in sounds that I like on the Prime, and this has some of the best presets of any unit. Would love to see some tutorials on how to create scenes and setlists, that go through a bit more detail from what I have seen in some recent videos. Loved your playing, too! Thanks again.
Thanks for watching mate! I recommend Nathan McFarlands UA-cam channel for in-depth Headrush tutorials for things like Scenes. He goes into super detail!
And with that we are eager for the update to finally hit and fix known bugs in 3.1!
Hope the wait isn't too long!
I'm really enjoying my Prime. It does so much for the price. Some killer patches on the Prime Cloud too! 👍
I was really impressed the Clones I tried from the cloud, hopefully they will only improve over time as well.
Killer playing
Thank you and for watching!
I have a helix and i have been recently given a gig board. Both sound great. But one thing I know of line 6 is constant updates, that is one thing headrush should be taking very serious. I also think HR should have improved the sounds a bit more. I will jam the gig board today again.
This is probably the biggest complaint I hear about HR products. Slow trickle of updates. Unfortunately I don't see this changing much in the future as their R&D budgets are far smaller than someone like Line 6. The good news is that everything they do add usually sounds great!
Interesting review. I just got a MX5 because I wanted a smaller factor pedal for when I didn't have room for my Helix LT. I'll check out your other videos on the MX5. Thanks.
Edit: if I didn't already have a Helix LT and MX5 it looks like good bang for the buck and I'd give it a try.
MX5 is a great unit and the currently the smallest full featured modeller on the market! I used it on the Firmware 2.4 update video and made the free ENGL presets for that video on it!
The mx5 is great. I have the full size pedalboard and mx5, most of the time I’m reaching for the mx5.
Great overview. I picked my original pedalboard back in early 2018 after which I used a lot for playing live not short of 100 events back in 2018 \ 2019. I've had the prime for over 3 months and must admit there are a few little faults but overall it's a pretty robust unit. I'll be using the prime soon at live events again. I'm a huge headrush fan and managed to convert several Helix users of the the years. All my best wishes from the Lake District. 🎶🎶🎶🎶😎😎😎😎😎😎👍👍👍👍
Wow over 100 events! Awesome. Did you have any hardware failures like footswitches like I had? My dads side of the family is from the Lake District and I have a huge amount of family in Whitehaven. Thanks for watching! :)
@@ChilledGuitarReviews Howdo Sir. No hardware failures but I suspect that's due to power or dips in power. I'm not far from Whitehaven. Let me know if you ever come up to visit. Best wishes mate 🎶🎶😎😎😎😎
Would you recommend switching from the pedalboard to the prime then? Are you able to import patches from the pedalboard to the prime? I have had the pedalboard since 2018 and was looking into changing and looking into different brands.
@@NicoMCH666 I think personally the original Headrush just sounds far better with regards to creating patches. I imported my old patches into the prime and they sounded pretty awful to be honest. I only had my prime for a few months and gigged it 3 times and was pretty disappointed. Overall I wish I'd kept my old Headrush. I'm currently using the Fender Tone Master Pro which is pretty good but the Boss GT 1000 is also another great platform. Cost is a factor and I picked up the tone master pro for only a hundred pounds but I would pay for anything over the price of a Boss unit. I would keep you older Headrush but the prime does still offer some pretty good features but overall it still sounds like it's full of performance bugs. Let me know what you decided. If you can try any units that would be a great benefit and also if you have a local music shop you may be able to trade any old equipment towards a new pedal platform. All my best mate 👍👍🎶🎶🎶🎶😎😎😎😎
@digital-guitars-uk thanks for the detailed answer, much appreciated 😎💪🏻. I think I am gonna keep it at the moment and use it out since I haven't been in depth in it. I'll probably take a look next year, I have some Neural DSP plug-ins so maybe look into the quad cortex. I still have a mini rectifier and a 1x12 hesu demon so, figuring out if I want to change the amp head and/or the pedalboard will be on the list of things to do for me 😅.
I see your point but I hope they don’t set up a marketplace on the Headrush. Because I feel if they did that over time pretty much any amp you wanna get off the cloud would be for sale and very few free ones. And that’s one of the most attractive things to me is that not only do I get the unit but for no extra money I can get a high quality clone of pretty much any amp I want right on the unit. That’s just my opinion but I definitely see where your coming from as well.
It still works well with Kemper though, rig exchange has plenty of good free profiles. The more specialised stuff you can pay for. Installing a rig on this thing that isn't downloaded through the Cloud is a bit cumbersome especially if it includes scenes as you have to copy over all the individual pedal presets as well as the rig itself. Maybe I'm spoilt by the convenience of it all but being able to buy straight from the device would be awesome as you can do everything else from it. Thanks for watching! 😁
Great review and killer toned and awesome playing. We currently are looking for a great modeler for recording our album and live. I m new into the modeling world. What would be the best one to go. Headrush seems verry full featured and pro sounds. I like it for its touchscreen easy navigation. I m comparing helix. I nead many amp and studio reverbs
Depending on budget HR is a great affordable option for recording. Have recorded many singles with my original HR board always with great results. However for touring it would not be my first choice due to the touchscreen fragility and generally being a new unproven product for durability. I would go for something tried tested and bombproof like my Kemper Rack or Stage. absolute tank like build and can take being kicked around on stage all day long. Helix is good for durability too but IMO it's starting to show it's age sound wise. I never could get comfortable with the general dullness/flatness of the HX amp models.
Thank you for the video and for the planned series :)
I'm about to buy a floor modeller this year and your video has been rather helpful to me.
A little question remained though.
Headrush as a company is suprisingly silent right now. Especially with a new unit out on the market. I must admit that I'm a bit worried about this.
What are your thoughts on this?
I would rather not want to invest in a system that may not be supported for much longer, or that the parent company does not regard as a good product.
Thank you a lot :)
Hi mate, first of all thanks for watching! Headrush are actually fairly active by their standards at the moment at least on Instagram and Facebook. They are not as prominently marketed in the industry compared to someone like Neural as they are simply smaller with a smaller marketing budget. I do know the Prime has been many years in the making and I highly doubt that now would be the time for the company to disappear. Dont forget Headrush is owned by InMusic who have dozens of brands in their holding: - www.inmusicbrands.com/
Thanks for doing this demo James! Sad thing about the headrush is... The aliasing. It has a lag especially on a great high gain tone. You hear a wobble or in and out of bass frequency. It's a shame because I love everything else about headrush. But if a boss katana no matter which amp from 50 to artist can have a killer high gain tone with 0 aliasing at the price of $269 US there is no reason to buy any headrush other than for cleans! And headrush if you're reading I really love your units I really do. But you have to revamp this like bad. When you do there won't be competition. Everything else in all headrush units is killer. Awesome playing James. Hopefully there can be a great update to address this.
Honestly, while I've noticed what you are talking about, it's only been when I've used the Headrush's downtuning functionality. That's to say either when I've tried to emulate bass with a guitar or tuned more than like 2-3 semitones down.
I've never heard this type of artefacting with regular distortion.
@@Dimitar_Tsanev I never thought about that I will try it. I'm usually tuned half a step down . Maybe dial the gain and gate down a bit. Thanks for the info and everything you do on the channel bro 😎👊
@@JamesFlorio-ti8gc
Oh I'm not doing anything on the channel other than watching and commenting but still hope my feedback helps.
@@Dimitar_Tsanev sorry I thought you were James lol but thanks for the feedback 😅
Thanks for watching mate! Can I ask what you mean by aliasing? Like digital distortion/artifacting? As Dimitar commented below I have only ever encountered this when pushing pitch shift effects to their limits etc. Now in terms of latency, I actually think there is slightly more latency with the Revalver amp models than with the standard Headrush models. Not deal breaking but certainly noticable, I did attempt to test the difference in latency for this video but I couldn't find anything conclusive. Maybe its all in my head?...
how about in-the-room feeling/ headroom ? can it come close to a real tube head + cab ?
I would actually answer no. You could get close by disabling the cabinet simulation/IR and run just the Amp model into a power amp and guitar speaker cab. This would move the air and feel closer to a real amp, but honestly it would still sound modelled but that is no bad thing! Modellers these days can sound fantastic and at the same time not sound like a real amp. If that sort of thing is important to you then I would recommend a powered version of the Kemper. Its the closest sounding/feeling thing I've tried and still get a lot of joy from using mine into a Zilla 2x12.
Would you recommend the core unit over the prime unit? I already have a boss expression pedal that I really like so I wouldn’t miss that. I’m currently running a pod go but am looking to upgrade.
I actually changed from the Prime to the Core about 6 months after making this video (and did a full video on the Core). I'm in the same boat as you I have my own expression pedal. Very rarely have I missed the extra footswitches so I'm happy I made the switch!
Would you still recommend this? I'm trying to find an upgrade from a Spark Mini, and I'm torn between this or go Neural DSP Nolly.
I actually recommend the Headrush Core over this. 90% of the same functionality in a smaller more affordable unit. Check out the full review on the channel!
Dude, I would LOVE if they released an MX5 Prime and removed the vocal effects & channel. I feel like they could even use a TRS mini jack for the fx loop and limit the unit so it can't make amp models but it can load them. I'd still like to make them if possible, but people with an MX5 sized budget probably don't have amps or mics to setup the clones anyway. MX5 retails for $400 US. I'd happily pay $550 for the MX5 formatter, the DSP upgrade and the ability to load amp clones.
There is 100% a smaller version of the Prime coming. Info was leaked about it recently. I hope the price point is sensible!
Good and honest rewiev like always... but to be clear , i can play songs from my phone on my headrush prime so i can play along whith headphones on?
Yep you can play tracks a number of ways. Either via Bluetooth, the Aux in, or you can load WAV/MP3 files onto the unit itself via USB or Dropbox and use the built in practice tool to slow them down if you like.
@@ChilledGuitarReviews then i wil uppgrade my headrush whith headrush prime
If they make a smaller QC/FM3 version ill certainly sell my fractal FM3 for one, form factor is something important for me but the headrush ticks everything featire wise that is missing/non existent on the FM3.
How long do we think it will be until Fractal release something with amp cloning?
@@ChilledGuitarReviews oof they're struggling with updates at the moment, if they're serious about their market hold it needs to be ASAP.
I am not a headrush users but i was an Elevenrack user and to see that those new units do not come with a desktop editor really saddens me .
I know a lot of people strongly want one but honestly as I said in the video the biggest strength of this unit is that I can sit on my living room sofa and do everything from the touch screen without needing a computer. I hope they do bring a Desktop Editor but with a UI this good its a little easier of a pill to swallow. Thanks for watching!
@@ChilledGuitarReviewsI've had mine for about 3 weeks and haven't once thought that my experience would be improved if I was using a desktop editor. Editing with the interface is so intuitive, and there's quite a bit of depth to it.
Don't need it! Further with Prime and Core you don't even need it to update firmware!
I know nothing about this kind of gear, can it be used in a chain with other lone stompboxes?
Probably not it's intended use. This is more to completely replace a traditional amp/cab setup although it has FX loops and inputs for adding your own pedals/expressions.
Hello! Do you know whether Headrush going to make a smaller version of Prime such they did Gigboard (smaller version of Pedalboard)?
Almost certainly! I believe the product listing for it was even leaked recently but can't remember it was called.
Thats very cool! Thank you for info!@@ChilledGuitarReviews
I like the nobs
Can't beat a good nob.
Does the Prime have more/different effects, amps, and cabs than the MX5?
Yes more of everything particularly amps with the addition of Revalver amps. Even if you don't like any of them you have the option of downloading whatever Amp clone you like directly from unit on HR Cloud.
I've seen guys say they've been unable to clone certain amps with the QCortex, no rhyme or reason, just doesn't like a certain amp here and there.
It is uncomfortable to know, that hardware hasn't evolved - inside is still same Rockchip RK3288, as in all previous HR units. It is 2014 chip, which targeted budget Chromebooks back then! How much more does HR plan to squeeze from it?
Is more DSP really what we need though? In my personal opinion all the development that's needed to meet the shortcomings of this unit is on the software side. The Helix seems to have been getting by just fine on the ancient SHARC processor it has. And despite being a 10 year old modular design inside, the Kemper is still the best sounding thing I've ever used!
@@ChilledGuitarReviews It is fine to squeeze what is possible from existing hardware. But both Helix and Kemper still stay on same devices, and somehow manage through firmware updates. Here we have a new device, with DSP headroom unchanged from original pedalboard from 2017. W/e. If it sounds good, it's good.
Can you import a .WAV file from DAW into HRP and play along with it?
I wanted to do a small venue as a 1-man band and wanted some custom backing tracks of my original music to play along with.
Yep I've done exactly this, even was able to import it by downloading direct from my Dropbox account by logging into it from the Headrush touchscreen.
@@ChilledGuitarReviews So...mix the song, leave out the "live"parts of the song, export out to Dropbox> From the HRP>import into the practice tool from Dropbox.
Ok- how many songs/backing tracks can you import?
Thank you Thank you!!
@@michaelpal7641 Yeah I do a bounce of everything but the guitar tracks straight to my Dropbox. There's a couple of GB of onboard storage, should be space for plenty of tracks in MP3 format!
@@ChilledGuitarReviews One last question-Can you recommend a good FRFR speaker system?
Somehow, the words "thank you" seem small. But thank you for all your responses. I love the Quad Cortex, but I needed a device with a "decent" tone and the HRP with the Practice Tool, Looper and the Antares vocal package is probably the best route for me.
Going to have to trust that the HRP community has some decent amp/IR's/Cabs.
All my Marshalls, a Dumble, a Soldano were either sold, given as gifts or just stolen so many years ago, so I don't worry about capturing as I will be hoping for the community to have what I am looking for.
Thanks again Brother
great content, thank you!
Thank you for watching!
Is this your main modeler?
This and the Kemper Rack yep! I switched this out for the smaller Core version though to save a bit of space.
I'm torn between this and the Kemoer stage. Any suggestions? Kemper technology on the stage is 5 years now and probably longer if they used the same chips as the rack. @@ChilledGuitarReviews
"i have a ton of videos planned with this thing.." so i`m just outa here unitl more exciting content shows up again, peace 🙏
same here 😂😴
What would you class as exciting? I'm always open to video suggestions..
@@ChilledGuitarReviews Play blues licks in a sundress :D
@@JD-vj4go What colour Sundress?
@@ChilledGuitarReviews gold to match the head rush retro knobs
Strange… I’ve never..ever…heard of “Revalver…”
It was quite a popular plugin years ago before Neural DSP came along and took over the amp plugin market!
Sorry to bother you again. Downloaded the manual and went thru it-Was going to pull the trigger-But for "live" use-I have to purchase a FRFR speaker?
They all look like PA monitors: Reviews state: Laney and Headrush-too boxey, too boomy, Fender FRFR-constant "hiss", Friedman FRFR-too heavy, too $$$
And on top of all this> Spending 1300$ to have "the best tones" and you have to "dial-in" the EQ on these individual speaker units???
WTF??
So, I guess it's not about the HRP and its tones/cabs/captures/IR's. It's dependent on the speaker system you need!
May I please have an alternative to these FRFR's? About to spend 1300 dollars, and was expecting the tones from the HRP to be good for what I want-But you need to get a "specialized" speaker system for live use??
So any speaker connected to HRP is going to have to be EQ'd-either at the speaker (FRFR) or in the individual rig within HRP you are selecting.
That Marshall/Dumble/Vox rigs that come with the HRP are going to sound different due to not having a proper FRFR speaker system?
Oh WTF!!
This is unfortunately the case for ALL modern day Guitar modellers. They are best used with an FRFR Speaker or a set of studio Monitors. However FRFR speakers are very much a mostly blank canvas that you can EQ however you like. I use the Headrush 112 units and they are slightly boomy in nature but you can easily EQ this out with low cut etc. You can even use the Global EQ feature to have a default setting no matter what preset you are playing through. If you really don't want to use an FRFR and prefer going into a standard guitar cabinet you can purchase a seperate power amp (a pedal based power amp like the Harley Benton GPA100 is a great affordable option for Headrush). You then just disable any onboard Cabsims or IR's on your modeller and you get all the flexibility and amp models/effects but going through a normal guitar cabinet. I often use my Headrush and Kemper like this to drive a Zilla custom 2x12 Cab. Sounds great and very loud!
@@ChilledGuitarReviews Thank you for your response. I think my existing studio JBL's will do fine-I was concerned about "live use" but I think I will use the HRP as a Audio Interface first before trying it in a live setting.
I have been reading the manual as well as the HR forums. (Kind of scary all the issues I have read so far) but the HRP still appeals to me from both a recording audio interface, vocal processor and amp/cab/IR's .Really not going to "clone" any amps, so I will have to try and find a good couple of amps/cabs-as I have read that you should "dump the presets" and start from scratch
I have a small single speaker PA that I use at home just for an acoustic set. I can practice using the HRP with that and see how it sounds.
As far as a true FRFR-from a price point, yes, the HR speakers are value for the $$-But, last time I played live, my speakers were pointed to the audience vs. a wedge pointing at me. Don't have any more cabinets to try your solution.
Ok-Another set of questions answered! Can't thank you enough.
Way too much playing dude
People used to complain my videos didn't have enough playing 🤣
Just got the prime yesterday, but due to work not played with it yet, is this system best through the amp or into a pair of 112 frfr speakers
Definitely better to run it through an FRFR or Monitor Speakers to get the most out of it.
Can you share rig .