One of the most unique Imperial ships? | Praetor Mark II-class battlecruiser
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The Praetor Mark II-class battlecruiser was one of the most unique Imperial ships, though not a of the same type as the Imperial Star destroyers, it often worked alongside it to carry out special missions.
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FractalSponge is a beast of a 3d artist. His work is legendary in the community.
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3:18 that is an amazing redesign of my favorite egg shaped ship. Original Torpedo Sphere is funny.
Every time I see the superstructure of the Bellator I think of the toggle lock mechanism on a Luger pistol.
Oooo, Glad I'm not the only one!
@@Melody_Raventress I’m such a gun nerd it sticks out like a sore thumb
Me too XD
I said that months ago !
The Praetor Mark II can be thought of as "2nd Rate" in the ship-of-the-line sense: Not the workhorse like the Imperial-class, but not big enough to be the prestige flagship like the Executor-class. So it ended up as flagship for the task forces defending important worlds.
The cargo container is cylindrical probably for similar reasons for why a soda can is cylindrical - the circular shape makes it better at retaining the pressurised atmosphere inside (spheres are the best shape for withstanding pressure) whist maximizing storage space.
1:23 lmao the Super Stardestroyer being 19,000 kilometers is amusing
My base criticism towards the Imperial Fleet and the Praetor especially was that it felt like they were never given an enemy worthy of their power.
I do hope in future projects that we get to see the Empire use their book of tricks to their full potential, especially with Thrawn leading them.
I always loved the Praetor design. i looked at it as the Old Republic grand warship much as the Malevolence was for the CIS. Once the Empire took over, the remaining warships were either kept on rear guard duty or scrapped.
Thrawn really would faint. Even i would faint with prices like that. 700 million is a lot of money, and Fractal Sponge is a damn good artist
Thruster cluster!
A ship for a conflict that naver came, probably a great asset for the upcoming Yuuzhan Vong wars that Palpatine predicted.
Shame we never had that.
A surprise to be sure but a welcome one
I adore using this beast of a ship in EAW Thrawns Revenge. It’s so cool
I just commented on one of your videos not long ago that the Bellator looks like the Toggle Charging mechanism on.the German Luger !
Pretty sure the gameplay footage is of the Empire at War Remake mod for anyone wondering.
My favorite Star Destroyer design by far.
The only Imperial Battlecruiser I do my best to NEVER face.
In eaw??
Crew quarters would be not occupied during a battle because everyone would be on battlestations. So if these sections get destroyed during a battle, this would not cause a lot of deaths compared to the destruction of a vital system. The affected crew members would just have to move to less comfortable quarters until the ship reached the next repair station
Ah, I should watch the video until the end 😅
One of my favourite looking ships. If I was an imperial commodore with some pull in the Kuati drive yards political scene. This is what I would go for
Right off the bat, 3 ISDs going down by one exploding station.
I always thought that the section behind the bridge, could be a parasite ship as a Mass Landing craft. Like the Ghost has the Phantom.
While I doubt that it can fly on its own. Something has to move if that giant cylinder is modular storage.
Great ship! Really fits the Star Wars Aesthetic.
Praetor 2 really has that "forgotten middle child" syndrome between dreadnoughts and ISD's. Eriadu is probably my favorite faction to play in Thrawn's Revenge because of their quality over quantity approach to units. When you have a lot of little ships working together, it's great until one link in the chain becomes targeted and broken, then your whole battle plan falls apart. With a single ship that can handle multiple things, you don't have that issue. I think that's also why the tarkin/empire doctrine in their ship design isn't really as bad as it's made out to be; it makes good sense from a logistical scale, especially when it comes to supplying enough ships to patrol everywhere, and having fewer command crews to worry about.
Makes sense ngl. Imagine how screwed you'll be if you had only one fully dedicated carrier in the fleet and it gets lost in combat. Bye bye starfighters, unless they come equipped with a hyperdrive.
@@CHRF-55457 Or worse; the supply line to the factories that produce such a specific ship were slowed, impacting the upkeep of fleets everywhere. In having many areas that are all tooled to make the same things, you don't have this vulnerability. With wider diversity of machines, it means you need specific areas dedicated to production of said machines, making them more vulnerable, demanding more active protection, being more expensive in the long term. This is one reason why, in the real world, multi-role warplanes and ships are generally much more practical than planes that might be better in specific metrics. Faster, easier, and sometimes cheaper to produce, easier to mass-train and coordinate crews to operate on wider scales, and ensures maximum cross-compatibility with current and future hardware of other forces. You do often lose out on specific strengths, but the volume and versatility more than makes up for it.
Awhile back I stumbled upon the Proclamator Class Star Frigate pretty cool design. Which is a predecessor to the Acclamator though its appearance would fit into Imperial Designs. Fractal makes some fun stuff.
Here's another fun fact about the Praetor: Darth Vader's SSD was almost one! I have a copy of The Empire Strikes Back screenplay; the one that I got is an early version the final cut, so the dialouge is mostly the same but some of the descriptions of sets and models differ from what was on screen, which is really interesting to see what almost was, like Yoda being more blue and toad-like. Anyway, the breif descriptions of the Executor does sound like someone in the writing room had read (or at least looked at) the 1977 comic.
Unfortunately, sometime between writing this version of the script and building the filming models Lucas decided he wanted Vader's SSD to be even bigger and more menacing, and so we got the Executor we all know and love, but it is cool to consider the Praetor almost became canon in 1980.
As we've seen in recent history: in an emergency stock up on TP... and the Praetor Mark-II will never run out.
I appreciate looking beyond the lore with the original "concept" art.
Living quaters around bridge are kinda good, bridge got more protected and during combat noone should be here as they are at battle stations
I remember when this was called, on old fanpages, the Giels-Class Super Star Destroyer, named after an obscure Imperial Admiral from the Marvel Comics era, long LONG before even the prequels.
ya I'm that old....
Dang!
Please make vid about firearms in Star Wars & how effective IRL ones from Earth be used in Star Wars universe?
Well, what you said at the very end of the video isn't wrong...
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1:13 i think u miss calculated haha
... Im glad they finally reached out and made amends.
One question. Unlike Generation Tech, you don't hate dolphins and aliens, do you?
We love Praetors
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1:08
(You used the price from the venator for the isd)
I would really like to know what these long cylindrical structures pointing forward are. You didn't explain that.
Can you do a video on Lumiya
The Praetor II isn't that much better armed than an ISD II, and its carrying capacity is terrible for its size. The Empire REALLY didn't need anything bigger than the ISD
It's main advantage is that it's incredibly hard to destroy since it's basically a flying slab of thick armor with guns on it.
And on that note you gotta remember that a battery is a group of several guns so for every one battery there's at least 2-3 guns so the actual weapons amount would be at least double what was shown.
@@phoenixx913right but that one vessel could have been what, five or six ISD worth of critical equipment and probably twenty in other materials.
I think the Star Wars universe could use more large vessels that aren't just fleet combat specialists. Something like a Civil Support Cruiser or an ISD-sized salvage ship with specialized demolition, space rescue, and equipment recovery gear. A lightly armed fleet tender style craft which is basically a militarized utility freighter like the (forgot the name of the classic conical egg cargo ship GR-75) but with a focus on allowing it to do picket duty for its fleet when not on a supply run
Do you think the Bellator is as large as ships should go?
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I think the cylinder is supposed to evoke the toggle-lock on a luger pistol
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6:18 The Autobots have placed all their hope on a glorified cargo hauler.
2:39 what is the ship that is in the top left corner?
Even if your fuel bunker is small, the amount of cooling those reactors would require would be enormous. Heat dissipation in space is an issue even without nuclear energy coming into the picture, after all. So expect to have some pretty large tanks of the stuff buried inside any large capital ship.
0:34 Can you make a video about the Arc Hammer and how Thrawn would use it?
are you kidding a yt-1300 is bigger than the international space station in real life!
The "silly outrage" being handwaved off near the start was over the totally Disney-created Coaxium as a plot device in Solo. Which is still ridiculous because suddenly they treated fuel in SW in a manner akin to gas or diesel instead of something to power up weapons or maintain long-term fusion / annihilation reactions.
Disney tossed that in almost as a dig against people who criticized the ships running out of fuel in The Last Jedi. It was their smug, backhanded way of retconning something in so the ships running out of gas would "make sense" despite the fact they had just left their base and so should have been fully fueled anyway.
TLJ took place over a very short time frame. Ships running out of fuel that fast was another example of No-Johnson setting up fake/weak tension because he didn't know or care about the rules of the continuity. The fuel retcon in Solo was likely done to justify his goof, because it came off as a late tack-on to the plot. Such as it was.
1:10 is Thrawn just a broke boy
Could a starfighter have tractor beams?
Yes. Tie Defender has one for example.
Please, please do videos on Stargate ships. There are mods for Stargate in Star wars empire at war.
I think overall tarkin and palpatine cultivated a weird highly competitive/toxic work culture and doctrin for ship design, i mean venator still> imperial destroyer
Ngl I'd love to see a venator paired with an ISD as a standard deployment tactic. They complement each other well, the ISD for anti Capitol ship fighting and the venator for its fighters. Together they carry enough army troopers and 3x prefab bases for infantry maneuvers, and the venator can drop AT-TEs to backup ATATs. (Another good pairing imo, ATATs for heavy guns and long range visibility/spotting and AT-TE for anti infantry with its turrets, and the specialized fire from its main gun. And both carry lots of internal troops, and ATAT can carry speeders.)
@@JediSentinal honestly that sound fucking amazing
ISD easily out-classes a venator. It's a direct upgrade in most ways except auxiliary craft carrying capacity, which the empire had little need for since ISD's also had a decent point defense array in spite of what people repeat a lot(Read Thrawn Treason and Shadow Fall, as well as the later RPG source books). Better armed, better protected, more ground troop support. It's misunderstanding the point of SW to say republic stuff was better, because the whole point of the Empire as an antagonist is them being portrayed as having all the advantages, and it's by skill, determination, and luck that the heroes win over them - not because imperial tech is just worse. To claim so is to undermine the weight of the Empire as an antagonist when, in truth, the army and tech they held were second to none at the time, and stomped all over almost everything the republic had.
The only thing they didn't have was hope and faith in the force, and that's what caused them to lose. The Empire was driven and fueled by fear, and even the best hardware can't save you when the fear is undone.
@@otminealnamer1385 i think it just wasnt the right ship for the job, great for orbital bombardement yes, but to pacify a galaxy not really, it's very similar to todays doctrin which favors aircraft carriers. Another problem the empire faced is the use of guerilla tactics which it isnt really able to counter, since it covers only a small area. Money was a big problem for the empire, banks were nationalised but only after they faced multiple crisis so they settled for the rather incomplex tie fighter program and cheaper (both in logistical terms) ion cannons.
@@definitlyEgirl-safetf2 If you want to pacify a galaxy, you don't use a ship that demonstrably was shown to be destroyed in propaganda reels in the prior war. You use something bigger, badder, and meaner. Venators wouldn't be able to fight guerilla tactics either; nothing symmetrical can really fight soldiers who disguise themselves as common people. Deploying one's own snubfighters capable of hyperdrive also poses higher risks of them being stolen; there's comparatively little risk in rebellion stealing high crew capitals and fighters that lack hyperdrives. There's really no advantage the venator has in fighting the rebellion, because it's not a war that can be won by tech of any type.
Besides, while 72 ties is significantly fewer than the venator could hold, the ISD makes up for it in many other ways, and 72 Ties is still a huge amount of fighters that'd take an impressive assault to deal with. The only way Rebellion succeeded against ISD's was to jump in, do at least some damage, and jump out BEFORE the ties were launched because fighting them off wasn't realistic in the rebellion's numbers until the tide turned with the battle of yavin and more joined on. Ties were more agile, more numerous, often faster, and the tie fighter corps was the one place the Empire did not let nepotism decide rank.
By that point, the Empire already lost the war, but it again had little to do with tech as much as the fact that one can't rule through fear for very long. Doesn't matter how good or appropriate the tech is. Likewise, you can't hope to hold control over a massive galaxy-wide force whilst still prioritizing merit, because very talented individuals will become ambitious or potentially defect. This is why ISD's were held back more by their crews than their design; loyalty mattered more than competence at the high ranks. In tightening his grip, palps let sand go through his fingers.
In short, the empire's issue never was a matter of tech, rather something much more fundamental: the very regime itself being reliant on oppression.
🤔 . . . Much like an Allegiance-class Star Destroyer, in size, the Titan-class Star Destroyer, which is simply just a larger Imperial-class Star Destroyer with six pairs of turbo laser turrets, instead of the Imperial-class Star Destroyers’ four pairs of turbo laser turrets, & such…
Ay man try playing Roblox project star dust there more star wars ship there that you can play like the predator mark 2
Could you look at Fallout Securitron’s
wouldnt it be 11 isd cost wise
what game is beeing played ?
What's super funny is...
That's not a battle cruiser. A battlecruiser is like a weird in-between of battleship and destroyer.
Then again, Star Destroyers aren't destroyers, either.
Battlecruisers are defined by having similar main armament to a battleship while possessing far greater speed to hunt and destroy smaller ships, sacrificing armor as a result.
A battlecruiser could absolutely occupy the same size/footprint of a battleship, such as the Praetor, but still be a battlecruiser. Getting any deeper into it is pointless though because the entire idea of a battlecruiser is hotly debated and it's likely the Praetor was just named as such because it sounds badass
Never was a big fan of this ship, don't care for the soda can bridge thing. It's still neat tho.
The 4.7 ISD's is a terribly incorrect price comparison, 4.7 ISD's doesn't even get you to the halfway price point
Is the math wrong on the price differential or am I missing something?
He accidentally wrote the price of the Venator by the isd
why is that round part even there?!
Pleeease go back to mass effect stuff soon
ISD 150 000 000 venator 59 000 000 not the same
What a weird looking ship. At least other imperial ships look remotely normal
If it's get miniaturized to less than 300 meters in size
Will become like this ship
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Didn't they get caught stealing his stuff first, then retroactively payed him for them.
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