We NEED To Talk About Xbox Game Pass...

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
  • Microsoft recently announced that is increasing the subscription prices for all tiers of Game Pass, and that it is discontinuing the current base Xbox Game Pass console tier.
    That is going to be replaced in the coming months with the new Xbox Game Pass Standard tier, which, crucially, will not include access to day one releases. The price increase in and of itself is perhaps not entirely surprising, even if it obviously stings.
    With the removal of day one releases from all console Game Pass tiers except the costliest one - which will now cost $20 per month - Microsoft has once again fallen into what was an easily avoidable pit, and in the process muddied the messaging. What sort of damage will that do to Game Pass, if any?

КОМЕНТАРІ • 556

  • @olddirty4565
    @olddirty4565 3 місяці тому +153

    The gaming industry is such dog shit right now. Greed is killing any good it has left.

    • @MasterJazz09
      @MasterJazz09 3 місяці тому +8

      20$ for 500+ game is greed???

    • @madatyoutoob
      @madatyoutoob 3 місяці тому +12

      Nah just xbox is.. you've been warned and not listening!

    • @olddirty4565
      @olddirty4565 3 місяці тому +12

      @@MasterJazz09 Dude they raise the price all the time. Is it worth it if u have time to game all day everyday? Yea,probably. But I have enough in my backlog already to keep me busy. People need to stop acting like every game on there is worth it. I definitely found some hidden gems on there but it’s not worth it to a lot if you already own games u haven’t touched.

    • @olddirty4565
      @olddirty4565 3 місяці тому +3

      @@madatyoutoob Haha you’re not paying attention my friend. Sony has actually taking away games people already paid for. Ps+ is not worth it. Full price for remakes of games,upgraded graphics for full price. Yea it’s not much different. They’ve had their fair share of shady stuff they’ve done.

    • @aayushdas19
      @aayushdas19 3 місяці тому +6

      Capitalism and art, like oil and water.

  • @Nobody-w8n4s
    @Nobody-w8n4s 3 місяці тому +187

    Gave up gamepass years ago. My backlog is my gamepass.

    • @Virgil200
      @Virgil200 3 місяці тому +11

      Same

    • @natejoe9924
      @natejoe9924 3 місяці тому +7

      19 dollars for game pass ultimate is a very good deal people are complaining for no reason and I agree with you bro same also

    • @SoHottScott
      @SoHottScott 3 місяці тому +3

      Yep same reason I stopped paying for ps+

    • @SoHottScott
      @SoHottScott 3 місяці тому

      ​@@natejoe9924at the end of the day it's an equation of how many games do you play. You can definitely get great value from the service but it's not a no brainer for everybody so to speak.

    • @n91312
      @n91312 3 місяці тому

      @@natejoe9924 for 20$ you can literally get any game you like, either by saving 3 months or waiting for a sale. What are you even playing on gamepass, Forza 2018 or Cricket 24?

  • @dwirtz0116
    @dwirtz0116 3 місяці тому +45

    YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY! - Klaus Schwab -

    • @Deetroiter
      @Deetroiter 3 місяці тому +5

      - Bill Gates-Schwab

    • @dusermiginte4647
      @dusermiginte4647 3 місяці тому +5

      And you think you own your physical games....
      😂

    • @deeplaysgaming4754
      @deeplaysgaming4754 2 місяці тому +1

      you can still buy the game, and did people say this when blockbuster video rented games at a way higher price for 2 days?.....no, the only reason its a problem is for opposition fanboys that have to bend over and pay sony again and agian for the same game remastered that if was on xbox would be back compat.

  • @ricardorodriguez-mi2zv
    @ricardorodriguez-mi2zv 3 місяці тому +255

    240 dollars per year?????? And you own zero games???? Wao!

    • @damesofpk
      @damesofpk 3 місяці тому +21

      Everybody knows you don’t pay a year out right for a service you have no idea is worth the investment. You buy Gamepass Ultimate by the month when a new game drops to play day one if you don’t have an XBOX. Everyone knows this.

    • @miki49
      @miki49 3 місяці тому +88

      @@damesofpkIt’s still $240 a year. Nothing of what you said (or could say for that matter) changes that fact bud. Lol.

    • @marcburroughs2969
      @marcburroughs2969 3 місяці тому +10

      Excellent point

    • @proteusxl9814
      @proteusxl9814 3 місяці тому +28

      Sony raised their PSN up to 35% last year with no added content because PS5 has no 1st party exclusives. But you say Xbox has no games for the last two years. Xbox has been consistent with 1st party exclusives compared to Sony weak offerings with no road map. Xbox killer Showcases and 1st party exclusives wtf you talking about? Both GP and PSN are subscription services. The only difference GP is meaty, PSN bare-bones 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @MrToymaker05
      @MrToymaker05 3 місяці тому

      @@damesofpk if you search on google you can find sites which will sell you game pass ultimate for as low as 10 to 20 usd for the year.

  • @MrNoeyez
    @MrNoeyez 3 місяці тому +63

    What bothers me the most is how much money do these big companies need

  • @fernandocousins1611
    @fernandocousins1611 3 місяці тому +103

    Just cancelled my game pass

  • @philipberlanda
    @philipberlanda 3 місяці тому +20

    With that much money I can buy a ton of used games/ on-sale games.
    Honestly they arnt really going to get away with this. The math just doesn't add up. It makes more sense just to buy the games you want straite up. Since not all the games you want will be on gamepass. You might as well pick and choose abd then just stop at the price that game pass would have been.

  • @kpsk8031
    @kpsk8031 3 місяці тому +32

    Good, this is going to end this rotten business model that is designed to destroy ownership and the value of games.

    • @schwubmexx
      @schwubmexx 3 місяці тому +5

      And the Developers

    • @natas12rm
      @natas12rm 3 місяці тому +5

      😂 they still want 50 for bo2 360 version. This is what you get when you let them get rid of physical copies. I can go to the pawn shop and get it for $5-$10

    • @spankrocketgaming294
      @spankrocketgaming294 3 місяці тому +3

      You don't own your games even if you purchase them. Thier a license. Ubisoft proved that by removing the crew. Sony proved that by removing paid movies from PlayStation store. EA proved that by delisting battlefield bad company series. EA are also shutting down bf3 and bf4 servers this year. You own nothing

    • @spankrocketgaming294
      @spankrocketgaming294 3 місяці тому

      ​@natas12rm the game Is broken. Plagued with cheaters.

    • @mgiebus1869
      @mgiebus1869 3 місяці тому +1

      If you own a physical disc, you own your game. No internet, just put in the disc and play. Keep it simple

  • @pogcow4178
    @pogcow4178 2 місяці тому +4

    Microsoft: "Hmm maybe if we raise the prices more people will buy gamepass!"
    Xbox: "Great idea!"

  • @jasonsmith530
    @jasonsmith530 3 місяці тому +21

    During the 360 Xbox live was revolutionary, history won’t be as kind to gamepass

  • @blackmesacake5361
    @blackmesacake5361 3 місяці тому +13

    I would think this goes without saying but here we are. Typically when more people invest into a product it drives costs down. When the product loses revenue, the company offers reasons to continue to buy the product, if the the numbers continue to dwindle, the price of the product goes up to cover the cost.
    Microsoft creates Game Pass
    Not enough people buy Game Pass for it to be sustainable
    Microsoft buys companies to add their catalogue of games to the service
    Game Pass sells even less
    Game Pass price goes up

  • @spidersilva147
    @spidersilva147 3 місяці тому +41

    GamePass has missed its target for 3 years in a row already and this year will be 4
    It'll be shut down in a few years

    • @proteusxl9814
      @proteusxl9814 3 місяці тому +8

      Lmfao GP been strong for yrs. Consistent with games and 1st party exclusives. Sony, where are the games? Where's Sony exclusives? Xbox, the only one consistent with 1st party exclusives. Go back and read your comment. Xbox done killed Sony in showcases and 1st party games 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣How's that Sea of Thieves? Last I read, PS5 gamers eating up🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @pixeljauntvr7774
      @pixeljauntvr7774 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@proteusxl9814 But what about Hillary's emails!!!!!

    • @lcd8927
      @lcd8927 3 місяці тому +4

      @@proteusxl9814how can u say ps does have games Microsoft doesn’t have games even Phil Spencer said they lost the console wars Xbox just make the same games halo gears forza etc

    • @spidersilva147
      @spidersilva147 3 місяці тому +8

      @@proteusxl9814 Microsoft themselves are the ones who said Gamepass missed their targets 3 years in a row and Phil said that Gamepass has stagnated on consoles
      PS5 has the much better exclusives in general

    • @proteusxl9814
      @proteusxl9814 3 місяці тому

      @lcd8927 I have an XSX and PS5. PS5 doesn't have anything to compete with Xbox 1st party. I'll repeat 1st party. Xbox out of the two, the only one consistent with games, 1st party exclusives killer Showcases. What we got from PS5 1st party exclusives spiderman 2 last yrar, and now ASTRO Bot 2024, hopefully Wolverine in 2025😳🥹🥹. C'mon sir, are you serious 😳. How you mix up Phil wording, but he provides games for Xbox and PS, which have been successful on PSN.

  • @n91312
    @n91312 3 місяці тому +71

    Xbox being consumer unfriendly for the 50th time and you're still surprised?

    • @Leviathan_Art
      @Leviathan_Art 3 місяці тому +2

      It's a company and none of them consumer friendly, except for PC and that's a thin line too.

    • @Никник-б1д
      @Никник-б1д 3 місяці тому

      stupid pony

    • @MasterJazz09
      @MasterJazz09 3 місяці тому +9

      20$ for over 500 games is not anti consumer lol

    • @n91312
      @n91312 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Leviathan_Art many are consumer friendly, and none has broken so much shady ground like Microsoft over the years except maybe EA/Activision

    • @n91312
      @n91312 3 місяці тому +10

      @@MasterJazz09 you mean garbage bin games like Cricket 24? If not for Microsoft these weird subscription services probably wouldn't even exist

  • @WillThrillin
    @WillThrillin 3 місяці тому +24

    “Well the growth wasn’t great… how can we cause shrinkage?” - Probably Xbox

    • @yasseralhashmi1415
      @yasseralhashmi1415 3 місяці тому

      Away from increasing in the price
      What is the name of the shooting game on the video?
      In the last seconds

    • @dusermiginte4647
      @dusermiginte4647 3 місяці тому +1

      1. Inflation.
      2. Moving all games from Activision and Blizzard over to Game Pass.
      3. If 0.5% of all firestick owners get Game Pass it makes 1M more subs.
      4. Psn raised prices by 35% 2023 without offering more content.. the opposite... Where the shtstorm about that?

    • @wowyomad
      @wowyomad 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@dusermiginte4647did Sony publicly say about not increasing prices because of the merger? Did they announce day one games in Game Pass for consoles (not the Core) and then downgrade it removing day one games just a week later? Also, you cant defend one shtty company's decisions with another shtty company's decisions

    • @dusermiginte4647
      @dusermiginte4647 3 місяці тому

      @@wowyomad the made another fking tier and raised $2..
      snoy raised their their prices 35% and only released spiderman 2..
      $2 more every month for all the Activision and Blizzard games isnt even a drop in the ocean.
      Its the fking poonies complaining about thing their poor intellect having trouble to understand.

    • @easyygo3008
      @easyygo3008 2 місяці тому

      @@dusermiginte4647
      Psn is $106 usd, gamepass is $240. Psn has more games aswell

  • @rokmare
    @rokmare 3 місяці тому +17

    Rising price for core from 60 to 75 made no sense not only do you not have access to the whole game pass library you don’t even get any games day one and the discounts on games are hit or miss if it wasn’t for the online paywall no body would have bothered with it at all

  • @MrToymaker05
    @MrToymaker05 3 місяці тому +37

    imo xbox crapped its pants when it decided to make the series s. now developers have to worry about optimizing games for 2 systems. games don't look as good as it could considering it is powerful than the ps5. ps5 developers only have to make games for one system.

    • @mtnman8783
      @mtnman8783 3 місяці тому +8

      Same with Sony still supporting the PS4. The ps4 is an anchor for the PS5 keeping it from going anywhere

    • @fenris2687
      @fenris2687 3 місяці тому +4

      @@mtnman8783 false equivalence. Sony has no parity clause for third party games between ps5 and ps4. Many games skip ps4. No game that's released for Xbox Series X skips the S. That's a fact, and it will not change because over 70 percent of all xbox series console sales are for the S. What else you got?

    • @destroyermcw626
      @destroyermcw626 3 місяці тому +1

      Yep Series S-ucks is bad and Series X is much better and PS5

    • @mgiebus1869
      @mgiebus1869 3 місяці тому +1

      I mean other than 60fps PS5 games look the same on my pro so... Consoles just aren't the way to go, gives them too much control

    • @easyygo3008
      @easyygo3008 2 місяці тому

      @@mgiebus1869
      They don't look the same. Keep being delusional

  • @minov1998
    @minov1998 3 місяці тому +11

    That’s wild, Gamepass doesn’t even offer that many games per month anymore. They’ve only been reviving the RTS age of empire games.
    Some of the games are 5 years old.

  • @afd19850
    @afd19850 3 місяці тому +27

    It’s the Netflix of games….both in its good and bad.

    • @TheGameFather13
      @TheGameFather13 3 місяці тому +6

      But now even Netflix has games lol

    • @afd19850
      @afd19850 3 місяці тому +3

      @@TheGameFather13 barely lol

  • @matheusluvison1
    @matheusluvison1 3 місяці тому +10

    Microsoft and Netflix were both hired by Toei to make publicity for One Piece. How else would you explain they being so keen on starting the new golden age of the pirates?

    • @KATO0914
      @KATO0914 3 місяці тому +2

      "I got that reference!"

  • @tankedwarthog6424
    @tankedwarthog6424 3 місяці тому +17

    For the amount of games I normally purchase per year it is still better than buying games. But I have almost completely stopped playing on my Series X and almost exclusively play on my PS5 now.

    • @erasethedoubtcain
      @erasethedoubtcain 3 місяці тому +1

      No reason to play the Xbox when you can play those same games on pc and eventually ps5

    • @titustjmatthews796
      @titustjmatthews796 3 місяці тому +3

      , unfortunately I love both systems but the prices are getting ridiculous increasing every few months but the games don’t match the price increases

    • @erasethedoubtcain
      @erasethedoubtcain 3 місяці тому +1

      @tankedwarthog6424 I have both Consoles and a pc and the Xbox just collects dust now

    • @Deetroiter
      @Deetroiter 3 місяці тому +3

      Same here. I had a PS5 before getting an Xbox and while I enjoyed the Xbox for month or so, it became quickly obvious that the games catalogue is atrocious. I do like the quick play features and the easy to use UI, but that's about it. Not sure why it's so difficult to for Microsoft to put out some hard hitting first party titles. I'm probably going to cut my Xbox subscription at this point and just go back full time to the PS5.

    • @tankedwarthog6424
      @tankedwarthog6424 3 місяці тому +2

      @Deetroiter I started with Series X and then about 2 years later I was finally to get a PS5 but even before then it feels like the Xbox wasn't getting any good first party or exclusive third-party titles at all

  • @Hazmatt36000
    @Hazmatt36000 3 місяці тому +9

    Still save me more money than not having it. I play a huge amount of games and game types. The price would have to be $40 or higher a month to make me lose more than I gain. It’s not for your gamer that plays one game too much.

    • @illestcatnnebraska7331
      @illestcatnnebraska7331 3 місяці тому

      U have time to play all that shovelware ?

    • @Hazmatt36000
      @Hazmatt36000 3 місяці тому

      @@illestcatnnebraska7331 you must not have game pass. There is shovelware but there is some incredible hidden gems that most gamers will never know about. That’s the best part of game pass. Not about to name them all. Some have come and gone but man download like 20 games you have no idea what they are and most the time you find like 8 that are amazing that you’ll never hear about if your just a mainstream gamer.

    • @AnimaTriste
      @AnimaTriste Місяць тому

      ​@@illestcatnnebraska7331
      It seems that he is not the brightest light bulb in the room, anyway 😂😂😂

  • @JustForUs-c9m
    @JustForUs-c9m 3 місяці тому +4

    I disagree that they can get away with that.Their new games are not that good, and many people are already been on gamepads for more than a year and have played all they wanted. I was on it for 2 years, but only because I've bought xbox series x as a bundle with gamepas, it was a good deal.
    But as soon as my two-year pass expired, I canceled the subscription. It was just not enough for me.
    I'm a PC gamer again :)
    At least, I don't have to pay for the online.

    • @XenoSonicFan
      @XenoSonicFan 3 місяці тому +2

      I'm a PC Gamer as well only reason I didn't completely move over is cause most of my console friends can't afford PCs. It's a sad situation I'm in brother.

  • @cartermoth6447
    @cartermoth6447 3 місяці тому +2

    $240 a year for 'free games'.

  • @simonbeech6073
    @simonbeech6073 3 місяці тому +1

    The problem for new Xbox customers. Buying a console is tiered and not clear. Buying Gamepass is then another tier, also not clear what you get, then for every major game there are potentially multiple tiers of payment.
    Parents are just going to buy a football.

  • @rm6058
    @rm6058 3 місяці тому +6

    SO GLAD I left Xbox to go back to PC

  • @Indy721
    @Indy721 3 місяці тому +6

    When mine runs out of Aug. 2025, that's it for me!

    • @ZimmermanTelegram
      @ZimmermanTelegram 3 місяці тому

      And then you'll immediately spend $150 buying Doom and Fable?

  • @tomb4250
    @tomb4250 3 місяці тому +12

    I only pay monthly and turning renewal off. Bcs i need roughly 6 months a year. I noticed the price yesterday its now 17,99 instead of 14,99 in Europe

  • @jish55
    @jish55 3 місяці тому +1

    Makes me glad I never got into Game Pass, cause yeah, this was inevitable.

  • @dreufowler
    @dreufowler 3 місяці тому +4

    So instead of following the law of supply and demand, they are going to increase prices because less people are buying? What sense does that make 😂

  • @infinitysynthesis
    @infinitysynthesis 3 місяці тому +8

    All subscriptions are going up in price. It's not just a game pass things. Sony will put up the price ps plus too again within a year too i bet.

    • @XenoSonicFan
      @XenoSonicFan 3 місяці тому

      I n f l a t i o n.

    • @agilla7907
      @agilla7907 Місяць тому

      They both sucks that's the point. Just buy the game you want to play.

  • @archangel2015
    @archangel2015 3 місяці тому +13

    I’m not surprised that this is happening, Microsoft is looking to screw there player base over and over again, and Xbox owners bend over and take it while spouting the virtues of Xbox, and Microsoft in general.

    • @forevertipsy3550
      @forevertipsy3550 3 місяці тому

      Them microsoft fanboys are a different breed.

  • @Real_SkyRipper
    @Real_SkyRipper 3 місяці тому +7

    gamepass was never worth it, renting is never worth it unless you really have no plan of ever using it again and it's far cheaper to rent it, if you do want to play again then just buy the game otherwise at the end of a year, 2 years you would have paid that game 10x or more lol, renting is like paying for a loan that makes you own nothing.

    • @schwubmexx
      @schwubmexx 3 місяці тому

      Playstation Plus Extra and Premium or Gamepass are good to try games you would never buy. Or games that came and that you just forgot. But if you really wanna play new games. Buy them. I don't even have the time to play the Games on Ps Plus or Gamepass anymore. A subscriptions isn't worth it. And I'm sure many think like that. Thats why the Gamepass is not really growing. If there are weak months and you don't know what to play and the weather is crap or everyone is on a Vacation except you. Get a Subscription. But a Full time Subscription is just not worth it

    • @Real_SkyRipper
      @Real_SkyRipper 3 місяці тому

      @@schwubmexx Piracy/Crack/Torrent etc.. are the best way to play, watch anything, if you then like it then yes buy it, paying to rent to try things is just stupid, people need to value their money more.

    • @DavidCornish-cn1yq
      @DavidCornish-cn1yq 2 місяці тому

      Yet back in the old days renting games was never bitched about . I remember paying 6 bucks to rent a game for 2 days yet here we are now complaining paying 19.99 for hundreds of games on Xbox pc and cloud . Gamers are the biggest joke bunch of babies

    • @DavidCornish-cn1yq
      @DavidCornish-cn1yq 2 місяці тому

      I could to flying bucks that I don’t have a wall of virginity thinking it’s an investment like you losers think it is .

  • @Chidoro41
    @Chidoro41 3 місяці тому +4

    If, by some chance, I lose my GP Console in the future for whatever reason, that will be the end of my experiment with MS’s systems. That’s all there is to it for me.

  • @Totomuncher
    @Totomuncher 3 місяці тому +1

    Cancelled Gamepass two days ago. $20 not worth it for me I hardly even get on my xbox like that.

  • @jlugo4395
    @jlugo4395 3 місяці тому +6

    It’s so easy Phil Spencer, Just give me a rental option. I don’t need 100 plus games.

  • @donjames5761
    @donjames5761 3 місяці тому +3

    the way i use gamepass. if a game releases on it an i want to play that that i'll sub for a month. play it and cancel when im done. its not a service i would just stay subbed to. thats $20 plus tax would be around $256.00 a year just because you have access to all of those games doesn't mean you will end up playing them or even enjoy them. gamers rarely do go from game to game. most tend to stick to a handful

  • @Apollyon_Rev911
    @Apollyon_Rev911 3 місяці тому +5

    I'm sick of price hikes. I got rid of Netflix after their last hike. This is next. Too much greed.

    • @MasterJazz09
      @MasterJazz09 3 місяці тому +2

      20$ for over 500 games is greed 😂

    • @Apollyon_Rev911
      @Apollyon_Rev911 3 місяці тому

      ​@@MasterJazz09Stick your fake emoji right up your 🍑. They don't need to raise prices. Greed.

    • @ThePixie43
      @ThePixie43 3 місяці тому +3

      @@MasterJazz09 yes

    • @mtnman8783
      @mtnman8783 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@MasterJazz09that you don't own? Yes

    • @ikmidgame6736
      @ikmidgame6736 2 місяці тому

      @@mtnman8783as if you own Netflix 😂 keep thinking that way

  • @richie1239
    @richie1239 3 місяці тому +3

    I wonder how many people commenting that it's too much, will actually give it up? I only want to play games online, personally subscription services are going to kill the gaming industry. I wonder how many people still want physical copies. Th only way the companies will listen is if the services are boycotted.

  • @Jedbullet29
    @Jedbullet29 2 місяці тому +2

    I'm disgusted by this "they are subscrpted money cows who we can now milk even more" - Amazon prime... Now I have to watch adverts and pay for premium delivery, UA-cam premium, but if I stream to my telly I get adverts, it's a horrible slippery slope and an awful business model only allowed because... Well tech titans owning and providing all the services. Ok rant over

  • @kylep007
    @kylep007 3 місяці тому +2

    I knew this wasn’t going to work. The film industry went all in on streaming because of the pandemic. After over a fiscal year when the numbers came in they have been backing away from the day one subscription model big time. The model is worse for video games since film/TV you can go through whole seasons and multiple movies in under a week. On average people fully play through 1-2 games a month. What good is a catalogue of over 1,000 if you only use so little a month.

  • @nategreatgames78
    @nategreatgames78 3 місяці тому +2

    Nobody in life has been in favor of price increases as a consumer, yet it inevitably happens in every industry. If they keep putting quality content on the device the I can deal with it up to a point, but people have their limits

    • @AnimaTriste
      @AnimaTriste Місяць тому

      They have not put quality content on GP.
      GP is scam made up of old an trash games, which you could buy all that you want for a fraction of a price and sill had money left for one or two NEW AAA games that come out.
      At least that's what I do, but I don't play online at all.

    • @nategreatgames78
      @nategreatgames78 Місяць тому

      @@AnimaTriste as someone who has primarily been in the PlayStation ecosystem since ps2, I think the content on there has been a fantastic value. I’d say 70 of the stuff one there is stuff I don’t own on other platforms and even if they are older games they are new to me and still relevant. And even if you can get a lot of those games cheap on sale if I even bought a quarter of the games I’d spend more than I spend annually(right now) on gamepass. And it won’t be a ton of games just sitting in a backlog I’ll likely never get around to which would be money wasted. If I get a hankering to try a game out on gamepass I don’t feel like it’s as much of an investment fiscally and if I don’t like a game I try on there is not just a waste. And if a game is good enough for me to spend a ton of time with it, by the time it is about to come off the service it will be cheap enough to were it will seem worth it to buy for the time I’ve invested and to no loose my progress. And the cloud saving if you ever decide to buy it even later is a big plus.
      They’ve offered some premium games as day one releases as well. So I think it’s been great so far, but again there is a limit to how much you can stretch that.

  • @dominickferguson7412
    @dominickferguson7412 3 місяці тому +15

    Well. Time to get a PC for good now💯

    • @Fade2BlackSS
      @Fade2BlackSS 3 місяці тому +5

      Been trying to tell people this for a while now. Leave these consoles behind and go PC.

    • @Nice_Places
      @Nice_Places 3 місяці тому

      The fact they are ending Game Pass for consoles only tells me that there won't be another generation of consoles. Forget what they said before, we can't trust what they say anyway because it seems to change on the fly. Even though they told they would carry on making consoles, doesn't mean plans haven't changed and this decision of ending Game Pass for consoles only but keeping it for PCs only just gives it away for me.

    • @joshualankford2966
      @joshualankford2966 3 місяці тому

      I have a good pc and I play most things that aren’t PS or Switch exclusive on it. So much easier and it’s pretty easy to get a decent gaming pc now.

    • @Fade2BlackSS
      @Fade2BlackSS 3 місяці тому

      @@joshualankford2966 Exactly. And to be honest PS exclusives are coming to PC as well. Ghost of Tsushima, the Uncharted series, Spider-Man, The Last of Us, Horizon, Final Fantasy 7: Remake, FF16 and God of War are all on PC now.
      Just waiting on Gran Turismo at this point.

    • @shawnbenjamin9636
      @shawnbenjamin9636 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Fade2BlackSSStop acting like some authority figure by telling people what to do with their money. If they're not interested in doing something, then stay in your lane.

  • @andrewmoore7927
    @andrewmoore7927 3 місяці тому +1

    It's obvious they have to recoup the money from the Activision purchase

  • @allstardumbazz4773
    @allstardumbazz4773 3 місяці тому +3

    Greed, I ain’t paying
    I had gamepass this year in February and right now in July. I may keep it for August before the price hike comes in September. They are taking away the $10.99 subscription which is what I am using. After August I am not subscribing to this, this shit cost to much, and it’s not worth it.

  • @gmorgcyborg
    @gmorgcyborg 3 місяці тому +1

    As a consumer.. my only hope is if this improves the quality of gamepass games

  • @CarterElkins
    @CarterElkins 3 місяці тому +1

    Just finished a free month of GP that came with a monitor I bought, and my take is, it works as a try-out platform, since most studios don't make demos anymore. But had I paid for it, I would not have been satisfied with my purchase. I got a free playthrough of the Halo Infinite campaign, which I hadn't played through before, and discovered a few really good indie puzzle games, but was underwhelmed by the rest.

  • @Egie427
    @Egie427 3 місяці тому +3

    Xbox could at least give us access to all of the missing previous generation titles WITH ONLINE BEING AVAILABLE there are so many good games that still stand up we should have had access to from the beginning. On a side note does anyone think we will ever get emulation or steam access for pc games that are not too demanding?

    • @yomamasohot6411
      @yomamasohot6411 3 місяці тому

      All you have to do is think whether that brings Xbox any money. There is no way for Xbox to make money off by allowing Steam on Xbox. It's like a trojan horse that you yourself let come in which then cannibalises their own store on their own machine. It doesn't make any sense.

  • @josedias8247
    @josedias8247 3 місяці тому +1

    240€?!
    It was a no for me before, and now its even worse. Specially because you have to buy the most expensive tier to get the day one releases.
    Gamepass has lost all relevance, and now is an easy skip for gamers, specially for me and I play all system 😅

  • @nintendad8168
    @nintendad8168 3 місяці тому +2

    how do we justify paying less for games now then in the 80s when games cost millions to make . We all want to save and we should save on old games and remakes should cost 30-40 but games should cost more . People are losing jobs do to studios closing and cut backs and we act all upset but shit like gamepass is part of the problem nobody pays for fucking games !

  • @OfficalMrBlue
    @OfficalMrBlue 3 місяці тому +3

    So Microsoft is unhappy with how game pass is selling, so they raise the price? Brilliant move.

  • @tentongeek9104
    @tentongeek9104 2 місяці тому +1

    Microsoft and Xbox are deliberately killing their console in a concerted effort to make gaming an "Application Experience" with subscription as the standard model for access to that experience.

  • @Jrogers6293
    @Jrogers6293 3 місяці тому +1

    This isn't going to end well. They were able tonget the FTC off their back by agreeing to not lay off any employees and not raising the price of game pass. And they've broken both of those agreements. Which means they're both desperate and stupid. Desperate to appease the shareholders, stupid because they could have walked away from this purchase if they thought long term.

  • @Deetroiter
    @Deetroiter 3 місяці тому +1

    Strange how he mentions their priority is the long term outlook of Xbox....instead of saying their priority is the consumer. If you take care of the consumer with games and features they want to actually play, that in itself secures the outlook of the Xbox. Each day and conference that passes by, the more I'm ditching Xbox for Sony. Microsoft did this to themselves with the incredible amount of people switching to the PlayStation.

  • @rogerapierre7533
    @rogerapierre7533 3 місяці тому +1

    Also Xbox needs to fire their marketing team. During their direct they unveiled two new Xbox consoles,…. Then a couple weeks later they put out an ad the says, “YOU DON’T NEED AN XBOX TO PLAY XBOX.” DUmb as SHIT!!!!

  • @mgiebus1869
    @mgiebus1869 3 місяці тому +1

    I dropped game pass before this announcement. Haven't actually enjoyed many games since RDR2. So I'd rather actually own a physical catalogue of older titles.

  • @benlow4791
    @benlow4791 3 місяці тому

    I had Game Pass Ultimate built into my purchase of my Series X over 2 years plus various short extensions here and there.. Once these ended I wasn't planning to renew. In return for extending my broadband contract for 2 years, my provider gave me an offer to more than double my speed for just £3 extra per month plus 12 months of Game Pass Ultimate included. Felt like a steal last month when I renewed. Definitely now with this latest news.

  • @YNGKING01
    @YNGKING01 3 місяці тому +1

    I think MS is doing this at the right time but under the COMPLETELY wrong assumptions. It's the right time because there are a litany of high profile, seemingly high quality 1st party games that will cause ALOT of buzz dropping in 2025. Hopefully if MS is thinking it can get away with charging $20/mo their 1st/2nd party offerings will be coming in at least a quarterly cadence AND are all complete, enjoyable experiences on Day 1. MS is assuming however that gamers will just HAVE TO play these games as soon as they come out. They don't realize that if you own all 3 systems, or have say just an xb since the mid 2010s, u've likely amassed a crap ton of backlog content that you really like but just have not had the time to play at all. I suspect GPUlt will see alot of subscriber churn as customers drop their coverage when there is nothing they are actively playing on the service and restart it when things they want to play arrive. Also, depending on the time investment the game requires, a $20 monthly subscription charge may be more affiable than paying either $70 msrp, or more simply waiting for the game to go on sale. The latter is likely to cause a stern, hard kick in the teeth as it pertains to 3rd party games because digital software typically is cheaper on PS than Xbox. I can also see MS doing this to address the critism that Gamepass cuts into a game's actual sales too. Take Fantazio* for example. Given this is a game made from the creators of Persona 3,4,&5 one can assume it will be a VERY long game and probably require a 100hr+ commitment. Your avg working adult (w kids) would probably need 3-4 months to beat it, if not longer. I'm not going to maintain a GPUlt subscription just to play that, given the time commitment is likely to make me spend at least $80-$100. It's also likely that I'll be playing something else at that time, so unless I'm super pressed to see what the team at Atlus cooked up, realistically I could wait a few months and catch the game on sale.

  • @mooviedude141
    @mooviedude141 2 місяці тому

    RIP Xbox 2001-2012. It was a nice little run.

  • @ArchitecturalAesthetics2046
    @ArchitecturalAesthetics2046 3 місяці тому

    We need a class action lawsuit against the executive who came up with this idea, Adobe style.

  • @Richard-dt4ft
    @Richard-dt4ft 3 місяці тому +1

    Just stacked 10 years of Gamepass hyped for Redfall 2!

  • @Eclipsed972
    @Eclipsed972 3 місяці тому +1

    Game pass hasn’t done much for drops for me recently, so i’m just gonna wait for first party games to drop to re up on Ultimate.

  • @afd19850
    @afd19850 3 місяці тому +5

    For me Gamepass is good as I can try games because nobody makes demos anymore. Not thrilled with a price hike though!

  • @skiffy9833
    @skiffy9833 3 місяці тому +3

    Just canceled my Xbox game pass today, So sick and tired of corporate greed ruining my favorite hobby time to switch to PC.

  • @midwestyle
    @midwestyle 3 місяці тому

    My backlog is my GamePass. So happy I dropped my Xbox and just went to my Switch and ROG Ally.

  • @jessicasalcove5370
    @jessicasalcove5370 3 місяці тому +3

    "Still an irresistible prospect"....

  • @mpacino1224
    @mpacino1224 3 місяці тому

    How do you discontinue something and then RAISE the price? It makes no sense. It's like we are now supposed to feel sorry for businesses. And therefore give them more money to help them survive. That is not we buy things.

  • @VeteranGamerX
    @VeteranGamerX 3 місяці тому +3

    Nope, I'm done with Microsoft. I'm done with game pass, at least for console.I might get PC game pass from time to time, but that's it

  • @AnderWess
    @AnderWess 3 місяці тому +1

    If it ever hits 30 a month I’m quitting Gamepass. I solidly only play like 2 or 3 games on it. Due to there’s some stuff on it. I’m mainly playing it because of the cloud versus downloading them. They just be adding games I don’t care to play on it.

  • @Ripley2049
    @Ripley2049 3 місяці тому +1

    This is only going to deter new potential customers to join game pass

  • @batman-cu1ep
    @batman-cu1ep 3 місяці тому

    Reality is what is going on. Most people knew the game pass format was unsustainable even for Microsoft. Surprised it lasted this long

  • @Frank-x1g
    @Frank-x1g 3 місяці тому +3

    All I really want is a "I can play online tier". Don't need Day 1 releases as my back log is healthy.
    Anything more than $100, and I will be taking a long look.

    • @Frank-x1g
      @Frank-x1g 3 місяці тому

      @khulpu74 Which is what I have as Gold was ended.

    • @Totomuncher
      @Totomuncher 3 місяці тому

      Playing online should be free! Like on PC.

  • @alexandermedina9173
    @alexandermedina9173 3 місяці тому

    From 17 to 20 ain't that bad you still get great value

  • @thebatfan89
    @thebatfan89 3 місяці тому

    I can only speak for myself, but I have started reverting back to physical media. I have picked up some old consoles and a tonne of old games. I've cancelled game pass and only continue to pay PS Plus because of the classic titles being added with trophy support and seemingly staying on the service permanently.

  • @thomashward
    @thomashward 2 місяці тому

    Microsoft want to move from a good strategy that was badly executed, to a bad strategy that is badly executed.

  • @Erlaxis
    @Erlaxis 3 місяці тому +1

    Nah, it's too much money to own nothing.

  • @Grendeloak
    @Grendeloak 3 місяці тому

    If they put the price up here in the UK I’d be more inclined to turn off my Subscription and play Steam or PS5 games for a while before going back a few months later.

  • @brandonhodnett5420
    @brandonhodnett5420 3 місяці тому

    This is the exact same crap Sony pulled last time they updated PSN, so sick of this corporate greed. That said I’ll pay the $20 for Gamepass and keep the bare bones for PSN due to day 1 releases on Xbox.

  • @HageanFQ
    @HageanFQ 3 місяці тому

    What’s crazy is that I became a PC gamer because Sony kept screwing over customers, but Xbox screws theirs so bad that they go to PlayStation since they don’t screw them as hard.

  • @carlcolemanjr
    @carlcolemanjr 3 місяці тому +3

    What game is that at 5:55? Someone help me out.

    • @marioccoprey9177
      @marioccoprey9177 3 місяці тому +1

      Starfield

    • @carlcolemanjr
      @carlcolemanjr 3 місяці тому +1

      @@marioccoprey9177 Thanks man, I appreciate the quick response.

  • @mlgxxx808
    @mlgxxx808 2 місяці тому

    As Japanese games are leaving Xbox game pass soon due to Japan’s dislike of yakuza series and persona series on game pass

  • @rogerapierre7533
    @rogerapierre7533 3 місяці тому

    Having multiple tiers is another example of Xbox’s poor management. It would have been better just to raise the monthly fee to $20 a month as a single entry subscription point. Also, to this they could have added incentives to entice new and current subscribers.

  • @kevinjackson7539
    @kevinjackson7539 3 місяці тому +3

    Can you still use CD Keys one month subscriptions?

    • @ikmidgame6736
      @ikmidgame6736 2 місяці тому +3

      Shh 🤫

    • @mrgreekgm754
      @mrgreekgm754 2 місяці тому

      @@ikmidgame6736 Lol you think Microsoft doesn't know about the grey market.

    • @ikmidgame6736
      @ikmidgame6736 2 місяці тому

      @@mrgreekgm754 nah they don't

    • @mrgreekgm754
      @mrgreekgm754 2 місяці тому

      @@ikmidgame6736 Lol.

    • @mrgreekgm754
      @mrgreekgm754 Місяць тому

      @@ikmidgame6736 I can't get over how delusional you are.

  • @scottsutton140
    @scottsutton140 2 місяці тому

    I just use the service once a year, play all the new releases, and then cancel. I also always get the £1 deal, so £1 per year is a great deal.

  • @cole6383
    @cole6383 3 місяці тому +1

    As someone who isn't in the loop and doesn't know much about this I would imagine people would be happy with gamepass? You pay a fee and you get access to rent 100s of games on the service. Again I don't know the product well enough so I'm just asking questions.

    • @theramenspot
      @theramenspot 3 місяці тому +4

      Don't let the discourse here fool you. There are millions and millions of people happy with their subscription services. Those people don't post here because to them nothing is wrong. Those posting are unhappy, but they aren't everybody.

    • @garlixbread
      @garlixbread 3 місяці тому +1

      I am happy with it on PC as indiviual AAA titles go up to 120 dollars noawadays and localized pricing is almost gone where I live, but over the course of a year Xbox Game Pass, at least where I live, has gone up in price 4 times, almost everytime it doubled, it's still a decent deal since I use it to play Minecraft, Fallout, EA titles, COD coming soon etc but it's starting to lose its value

    • @Sorrior
      @Sorrior 3 місяці тому

      I"m happy with it and still consider it worth it..cheaper then most other expenses in my experience

    • @ismaeldiaz9045
      @ismaeldiaz9045 3 місяці тому

      @@garlixbread120 ? What you buying delux edition? Game pass only offers standard edition games , also if hou are on pc you have access to lots of discounts threw diferente sites where they hive you a steam key , i call BS

  • @pixeljauntvr7774
    @pixeljauntvr7774 3 місяці тому +2

    That there is the REAL Xbox tax!!😂😂😂😂

  • @dusermiginte4647
    @dusermiginte4647 3 місяці тому

    As a parent with 4 kids in different ages now (that I know of.. tiihii)...
    ..I subscribe to Disney+, HBO (MAX), Netflix, Allente (Fiber TV) $55, Bahnhof (Fiber $55) and 4 Game Pass = 2 Game Pass (home Xbox split with another console).
    Morgage + interest for the Villa..
    Car (Volvo V90) is cashed...
    And we still have money left every month and I save about $800/month in accoubts we never access..
    Just reroofed the house...

  • @fresnoniiji
    @fresnoniiji 2 місяці тому

    As a casual pc gamer this is perfect for me.

  • @bighutch511
    @bighutch511 3 місяці тому +6

    I'm perplexed by the outrage over the Game Pass price increase of a few dollars. While it's true that these costs add up over time, it's essential to remember that Game Pass is a voluntary service. Microsoft isn't forcing anyone to subscribe; you can choose to unsubscribe and purchase games outright if you prefer. Interestingly, Sony has also increased its service prices, yet there's been little uproar about it. Why is it acceptable for Sony to raise prices without criticism, but when Microsoft does, it's a huge controversy? It's important to recognize that these multibillion-dollar companies prioritize profit. Phil Spencer has openly stated that their goal is to make money, so price increases shouldn't come as a surprise.

    • @johnnyjets2343
      @johnnyjets2343 3 місяці тому +4

      Sony increased their prices last year in 2023. There was outrage over it lol. Nobody likes price increases. I just think 240 dollars per year which is the equivalent of buying 4 triple a games these days is a lot of money for a single subscription service. Especially when you think about it on top of all the other sub services many most likely have. Half your bills are sub services these days. I'd rather just wait for a sale and buy whatever game outright myself.

    • @tankedwarthog6424
      @tankedwarthog6424 3 місяці тому +2

      Sony has a better service than Microsoft with better games, not to mention I really haven't been interested in any of the first party or even third party console exclusives recently from Microsoft. The Xbox is dying, and Microsoft is trying to cash out while they can that is not happening with PS5.

    • @bighutch511
      @bighutch511 3 місяці тому

      @@tankedwarthog6424 it wasn’t for Microsoft, Sony won’t have any games right now. That’s just a fact.

    • @illestcatnnebraska7331
      @illestcatnnebraska7331 3 місяці тому

      This isn’t that hard to see…Sony didn’t lure its consumers into a rental service at $9.99 a month…then raise it to $19.99 a month in 2 years…then if u quit gamepass u own nothing…classic bait and switch…Xbox is trash 🗑️

    • @tankedwarthog6424
      @tankedwarthog6424 3 місяці тому +1

      @bighutch511 citation needed
      Sony was making video games for nearly a decade before Microsoft ever decided to try to get into the console market. Even if the Xbox fails, developers will still be making games for Playstation and Nintendo. To consider one console so far above the others that if it fails that it would end, the video games market is folly.

  • @phoenixshell3772
    @phoenixshell3772 Місяць тому

    In a few years I hope people are going to realise. "Oh yeah, I forgot we are dealing with Microsoft".

  • @WillieD
    @WillieD 3 місяці тому

    Welp, I just turned off my auto renewal

  • @Blvck0ne
    @Blvck0ne 3 місяці тому

    $20 per month is still cheap so no complaints here.

  • @jeffcarrier9808
    @jeffcarrier9808 3 місяці тому

    That's a heck of a choice in music

  • @X-Factor-22
    @X-Factor-22 3 місяці тому

    If MS wasn’t taking away Day One AAA titles, then the price increase would be SOMEWHAT justified. I know it sucks for the consumer, but it’s a business.

  • @karan90017
    @karan90017 Місяць тому

    I hope one day Sony acquires both Xbox and Phil.

  • @ruthurban1959
    @ruthurban1959 3 місяці тому

    I let my game pass lapse, I’m playing the backlog on all my systems, haven’t missed it at all

  • @janwatkins5523
    @janwatkins5523 3 місяці тому +4

    They need to get rid of the Xbox name and just call it Microsoft gaming because it's clear now they don't actually care about the Xbox itself

    • @titustjmatthews796
      @titustjmatthews796 3 місяці тому +1

      , yes Microsoft gaming, games it’s what it has become now they gotta bring out better games when they suddenly increase gamepass prices

    • @janwatkins5523
      @janwatkins5523 3 місяці тому

      @@titustjmatthews796 agreed

  • @markshorthouse8564
    @markshorthouse8564 3 місяці тому +1

    Microsoft don't give a crap bout you guys get a reality check

  • @thenutcracker2921
    @thenutcracker2921 2 місяці тому

    What is that cartoony 3rd person shooter @2:35??? Looks great!

    • @danischannel
      @danischannel 2 місяці тому

      Hi-fi Rush .It's a rhythm based action game. One of the best games of 2023

  • @justins9886
    @justins9886 3 місяці тому +1

    Just pay for the Ultimate for a month when a game releases that you wanna play, then cancel when you have beaten said game. Get the brand new game for $19.

  • @nintendad8168
    @nintendad8168 3 місяці тому +2

    people now don't pay for games and what do y know studios are closing hmmm yea how about we pay for games and honestly they should cost more for triple a