D&D Burning Is Okay! OGL 1.1 Issues
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- #dnd #dungeonsanddragons #ogl
I'm okay with D&D giving up the non copyrighted ghost and so should you!
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Apparently critical role ran a d and d beyond ad in their latest episode and people were losing it. People had to remind others that those episodes were filmed weeks ago. Also pretty sure they’ve all signed NDAs cuz they haven’t said anything about it at all
haha bye bye dnd beyond sponsor money!
Taking money from D&D is good; giving money to D&D is bad.
Yeah...
The most we've got is Matt liking some tweets and their total nothingburger statement that pretty much just said "we won't trash other people for moving on".
They made a deal with the devil when they swapped to D&D, and I'm not sure it's one they can weasel their way out of.
@@colbyboucher6391 let's hope they can
Totally agree with you! I too believe this to be a good thing in the big picture. And on the topic of what videos you will make, I came here for Dm help in different adventures, but stayed after having fun with yall on the DC. If I would have to make a request, I would love to see more DM guides for other systems adventures (like CoC or DCC) and ofc more of your meme videos! Probably one of the best laughs I had was on your April 1st video!
Haha thank you!
Against the great dragon, an army of ORCs; led by a Kobold waving a Black Flag. best of luck to ya!
haha
While it was the D&D advice and reviews that introduced me to your videos, your way of looking at the game and your style of DMing is what made me subscribe. Honestly, if you stay true to what you feel about gaming, I’ll continue to watch your videos. As I’ve expanded my gaming knowledge into other TTRPG systems, it has grown my ability for running these games. I look forward to see how you grow this community.
thank you so much!
Once upon a time in the long long ago times some call the '80s. The idea of just playing D&D was odd. There were other systems that we played. Twilight 2000, westends Star Wars and eventually Werewolf and all that in the '90s.
So in a way this is a return to the status quo. I will continue to play D&D as my main game. But now my younger players are asking about other systems that will tell different stories better. And I think this is a good thing. This is rpg renaissance
Heck yeah!
lol :) and you only have the "tolkien" races dammit .. none o yer furries and dragonmen and who-knows-what! and this isnt teen romance .. you go underground, kill stuff, get chopped in half by a totally unfair trap, and then the GM makes you SET FIRE to your character sheet .. thats how its done ;)
@@markhill3858 and there were RPGs to play other than 1 system. Also no one would have been surprised that a huge company would try to collect more revenue.
@@vololudo4671 You're talking about the B/X days of the early 80s. He's talking about a very different time period. You really need to branch out if you think old editions of D&D are an accurate representation of other systems.
And frankly, the modern OSR, if that's what you're thinking of, is art-house as hell. With games like Troika and Into the Odd and a million things on itch that are vaguely compatible with anything OSR-ish. There was actually an adventure competition recently called No Artpunk Allowed or something which was specifically some people pushing back against the crazy, wacky stuff the OSR generally puts out now. The problem is that you need to go digging for it all.
@@colbyboucher6391 and when your 10 years old back then .. probably you just want or even prefer the "dungeon adventure game" :)
I was never a fan of 5E but everybody plays it so I went along with the crowd. I personally think Pathfinder 2E is a much better version but it lacks all the weirdo races people seem to like to play. So with exotic races for 5E, I think that is what it makes it such a popular game.
Haha exactly my point, it sucks wanting to play something that other people aren't willing to play
Archives of Nethys has a stupid amount of weird ancestries. And there's nothing to stop dms and players working together the homebrew something.
One of the problems with 5e to me is the woke push away from specific negatives of a certain race in case it offends someone in the "modern audience", leading to lots wanting to play weird races just to be cooky and weird, in a desperate attempt to be "unique". It was much better in the early days of 5e when a Dm would say "sure you can be a goblin, but don't expect to not have a town guard try to kill you on sight" as then it was internally consistent.
This is why pathfinder is better. It is internally consistent. It doesn't shy away from the reality that races in this fantasy world don't have to reflect anything about a "modern" audience. Weird races will have a weird experience as they are rare. That is the point.
So I view this lack of the weirdest races as one of its boons. As well as the rules just flat out being better.
I mean 5e people are great at homebrewing
Since all there core books needed that. sooooooo
@@lorekeeper685 What's really obnoxious about that is most games are much easier to make decent homebrew for. People dump *so much effort* at times into completely transforming 5e into something different, when they would have had a much better time of it with other systems. But that's where allll the effort went.
@@colbyboucher6391 ye if you take a step back and look at what people played.
They never actually played 5e since it isnt simply playable without homebrew.
Third edition was playable but it was so easy to modify why not do it? Of course back then they sorta have to care a bit about quality.
Now at 5e there isn't an ounce left.
So ye maybe 5e players can now see news systems that they might actually way more than d&d.
Hey, just as a heads up, I reached your content first through the OSR. So, if you keep this route, I assure you I'm gonna be here watching! =D
I mean, OSR is a sub-niche, but there's not that many people around talking about those games. So that might be a nice market for content creators.
i know i need to make more OSR content haha. I have some on the writing block right now in fact!
I think there's definitely going to be a sea change in the TTRPG community regardless of what WotC does (or fails to do as the case may be). New and revised game systems will proliferate and it may be a very long time before they can recapture the market like they did with 5e after the 4e debacle, if at all.
haha we'll have to see!
4e wasn’t a debacle. Adventurers League was super popular and it got a lot of people playing for the first time. Finding games for 3/3.5e were always hard. It wasn’t perfect and it tried to be world of Warcraft with its ability system which was great but did get complicated with indecisive players but it was a gateway that got a lot of people into D&D, nothing like the explosion during 5e but it helped pave the way for 5es popularity. 4e is when it started to become cool to play D&D and where live play events started to push the hobby further making way for TAZ or critical role during 5e (I know the latter started on pathfinder but Penny Arcade and Harmontown made a space for them to succeed) people love shitting over 4e to get “cred” but it was a step up from 3/3.5 in some aspects. Casters were finally fun with cantrips and powers that reset between encounters rather than long rests compared to the do a few spells and need to long rest because you can only use a dagger until you long rest and will mostly miss. I had a lot of fun with it and managed to introduce way more people to D&D than I ever did with 3/3.5.
00:05 Thank you for watching most of my video! Fun is allowed today.
hey, ive got a reputation to uphold here haha
Bout to watch it myself now XD.
I only started playing three years ago, and I now DM twice a week on two campaigns. I pretty much only run modules, as it just works better for my life/schedule. I love the walkthroughs that you've made. I honestly can't imagine running a campaign without having that kind of content available. That's sort of one of the reasons I'm so into DnD, I have all those resources. If you and other folks started to branch out, I'm guessing eventually I would too. But I am bummed at what's been happening with WofC over the last week, as I'm pretty embedded in this system and have a lot of momentum going. But in both my groups this week, like 1/4th of the session time was on just discussing the OGL kerfuffle. Every player is aware and, for the most part, are strongly on the side of the content creators. Just goes to show that the community is well-informed and passionate.
haha for sure!
Ya WotC has no clue. They released an announcement and I think they lied through their teeth and they think we’re all stupid
#opendnd
its not been a good time for them haha
CC think they have announced they are in the process of trying to walk this back. From what I saw a lot of gaslighting as expected.
Haha for sure, like I said, the leaked ogl 2.0 wasn't promising
"..Can't wait to see you in the next one."
Is all I needed to hear. You are the G
haha thank you!
I initially subbed because I liked your campaign walkthroughs. Maybe you can start doing walkthroughs from Pathfinder or some other systems instead
haha for sure!
They didn't crash; they shut down the servers to make a hotfix so they could remove the button to unsubscribe. You have to go to an external website to unsubscribe now.
from what i was told it first crashed then was hotfixed haha
Cover modules for other systems!
0:07 oh wait, did we forget that time when MTG judges at events for children were outted as literal pedophiles?
haha fair, though that was years ago at this point
@@NoFunAllowed it still kicked off half a decade of debacles and scandals from WotC.
@@NoFunAllowed it still kicked off half a decade of debacles and scandals from WotC.
Your step by step campaign videos are great, I followed some playlists from start to finish. If you remain on DnD or even better start covering pathfinder campaigns or some smaller publisher or your homebrew I intend to watch, but this type of video is really niche despite how awesome I think they are, it's understandable to not do them. Anyways I hope you continue making your campaign step by step videos 🤞
thank you so much!
3:18 That IS NOT how UA-cam works at all... Maybe for short term gain's but the most successful and long lasting channels are verity channels so this is a good thing as all the youtubers I've seen decided to become verity channels and cover TTRPG as a whole and not just D&D... The way it should have always been nottt just for them but for the gamers and game devs as well.
Meh I just moved back to 3.5 about 6 months ago. Their insistence on making every damn class so magic heavy just ruined it for me as a dm.
haha fair enough, i dont like magic heavy either
3:47 50% it was always 50% aand yet most of it's player base belived it was The hobby and not TTRPGs as a whole.
I wish they had released a draft of the OGL and gave the community a couple weeks to react. I did find the new statement reassuring.
Haha I might be too cynical at this point to believe them
I mean they said on D&D beyond this morning it was their intention but like when? They have nott talked directly on that till the day they planned to annoced it or so the leak which they conformed did.
"The response of wotc was unacceptable "We both won" ..... WOTC and Hasbro arrogance and greed has no limits. They are delusional... paizo>wotc #ORC #ORCLicense
haha oh ya
I recently just started playing D&D 5E and I enjoy it.
fair fair!
@@NoFunAllowed I’m just sad about the current situation
6:24 I'm that person and it WAS NOT THAT way in fact all the D&D people I met IRL and here on this platform were and are welcoming and helped me with my OG game I've been making for 4 years now even if D&D was not for me
I feel so sad over the whole situation, I have a dnd game tomorrow but I don’t even feel like playing
dont let a company ruin your fun! play YOUR d&d, not some companys!
@@NoFunAllowed thanks man, I’m playing Curse of Strahd at the moment which is going to feel strange playing it. I know I’m not but I feel like I’m going to be feeding the dragon (the dragon being WotC)
same here but don't worry too much. check out the lizards of the coasts' official statement about the OGL changes they released some hours ago on dnd beyond. as far that (obvious PR-) statement goes, they are rolling back everything including revenue split.
I'm planning a Wild Beyond the Witchlight campaign, maybe starting in a few weeks. I'm definitely looking into other systems in the future, but for now, it's already been paid for to the company, so might as well continue. Good luck in your game!
@@onurb8552 ...Only if D&D Beyond subscriptions are involved.
Otherwise? People just owning physical books and having no reason to toss more cash WotC's way is the reason they're pulling this in the first place. Because they really, really want to make more. By just ignoring that and using the stuff you physically, own, you're not feeding the dragon, you're helping to starve it.
I say that as someone who wants people to try other games. Don't let this sour the mountains of stuff we already have. For that matter, you can just keep buying old OGL 1.0 material, probably! If they keep their word that it won't be affected.
I agree with you over all meaning though D&D coming down in market share is a good thing and it will spread players out across The Hobby. And Hopefully mean that more players will play more TTRPGs then just one which seems to only be a thing in TTRPGs and TT Wargames not TT boardgames, Card games and defiantly not Video games. And why not go rules agnostic and wtrite in a way that any system can use it so you get 100% of the comunity not 50% like you have been doing... Also you could review adventures from every games system/rules agnostic and again not limit your self and talk about how it could work for us. Still I hope the best for you and can't wait to see what you do necxt!
thank you so much!
6:39 Ok that's true.
Good insight on this
thank you!
I’ve only played 5e because overwhelming amount of players know it and want to play it. Otherwise, it’d be CoC7e, Cyberpunk or Pathfinder for me. Glad the evil titan is falling so everyone can try different and better systems
haha the titan hasnt fallen yet, but it certainly stumbled!
@@NoFunAllowed Yeah, that’s better said :p
I don’t think they’ll change. They’ve been doing it with Magic for years while not seeing anything wrong with how they’re handling it. Based on how they behave, it’ll probably be the same for D&D : (
@@WiIICheck The big thing to me is that I doubt D&D makes enough money currently for Hasbro to really care if they burn it to the ground. They cash in on it's huge popularity or bust, is what I suspect.
@@colbyboucher6391 D&D pulls in around $150 million in revenue annually. That’s strong numbers. Hasbro has done worse with their only billion dollar IP: Magic the Gathering.
I disagree it has unified the vast majority of the community as in all the OGL videos I watched from UA-camrs I would never otherwise and in the comments of those video the comunity is in agreement that this is bad and needs to be stopped well at least the qued in Community which yes is not the majority of D&D audience those are people who just buy stuff a Local TT shops and half of them just play there. We are the target audience for WOTC going forward so our words matter the most to them. So yeah why have you seen The hobby being divided? And no devil's avocites and 1 guy don't count.
Do Tales from the Shadows from KP!
Need more armor mechanics, weapon mechanic, martial classes should have some AOE abilities, they make 5e all about combat but honestly don’t continue build out the combat mechanics. Just said to see a rule set I love not get treated with love.
I like 5e's system just fine, it's modular and can be used in many different genres and styles of games. That doesn't mean it's the best at any particular genre or style of game, it is more of a jack of all trades, master of none.
I do not care about WoTC's trademark settings, monsters or narratives though. I also do not like the company or its practices.
I personally advocate for there being a large market of games that fit into different niches and address the needs of those niches well. It's also fine to have a more broad and modular game like D&D too, but it shouldn't really be servicing such a large portion of the market.
the more the merrier!
5e is anything but a jack of all trades. It's very good at super-heroic high fantasy. Trying to morph it into anything else is rather difficult and tends to go poorly. If you want a jack-of-all-trades grab an actual generic system. Multiple, in fact, they're still good at different things.
What happened to this dude?
gotta be honest here. i really like your work but your camera is cancer on my eyes making your videos barely watchable at best. those 360p gotta be an accident. right? i bet your phone has better quality.
regarding the topic: unfortunately you're a little late... WotC already released a PR statement on dndbeyond basically explaining themselves and rolling back the worrysome changes. of course anyone should wait for a written form of the updated OGL to be released before believing anything from the lizards of the coast. i think nothing's gonna split and no one will really leave after they fix the issues. as far as our information goes this could be a hasbro issued order with the appearant lizards having nothing to do with the actual changes.
im too poor for a good camera or phone mount haha
oh that's too bad. still love your videos. your CoS videos were very very helpful to my campaign. have a nice day :)
He does have a patreon just saying;D
I'd use a better ruleset
haha fair!