I quit the Native Instruments and Ozone thing when they started that stupid alliance BS. Nothing more annoying than getting a newsletter email and hoping to see some good updates to the software you love, but instead it's just an advertisement for some shitty PA plug-in that looks like it was made on MS paint from windows xp.
Long time (20 years) Cubase user here. Updated to Cubase 13, but it has the exactly the same low latency and real-time audio performance issues as Cubase 12 does. It's crazy that in 2 years they have not addressed the areas where the DAW is falling short. I think it is time to start learning how to edit in Studio One 5.5, as the performance is a lot better, and more stable there. Very disappointed, and really don't want to learn the workflow of another DAW, but Steinberg are forcing my hand.
That’s interesting I switched to Cubase from Ableton 4 years ago, (I use both still) but Cubase performs way better than Ableton on my Macbook pro, Ableton falls apart with some heavy vsts where the same rack in Cubase doesn’t. In that way maybe the grass isn’t greener.
I have all the Fabfilter plugins except their super old ones (mini filter, one, and something else) and my discounted price for Pro-R2 was $59 which made it an ez purchase for me.
I don't need to hide AI in my music because I don't even know what the fuck AI does that isn't already done by a program. The fun of music is making it, I don't need to turn my only skill into an idle game.
The Epic layoff process at Epic was done without any consultation of any managers or leads at any sub-levels. Basically, some higher up paper pushers erased lines on a spreadsheet, and then put it on managers to gather and combat the decision if they felt an error had been made. But in doing so, the person in question would also lose their severance package as the process would be delayed over the tight deadline, by design, of course.
SoundCloud trying to compete with regular streaming is it's downfall, it was an awesome place to get some unofficial remixes, mashups and all kinds of stuff that wont fly on Spotify and such due to copyright, being the wild west was a big part of the appeal... Of course not to the average Joe, sometimes it's better to have a dedicated smaller audience than try to cater to common person
Soundcloud never bothered to add a volume control to their embedded web player (for sharing on other websites / forums), resulting in a decade of deafening sound blasts. For that reason alone, they deserve to fail.
Seriously, if there was a bandcamp type of business with a Spotify style streaming UI I would happily use and support the service. Even if it lacked the music variety that Spotify and Apple Music has. They need a legit iPad App and a dark mode at least.
7:24 LOL.. Most artists today would hide the fact they use Loops, sample packs, etc........ Mwhahahahhahahahahaha Full songs can be drag and drop also... Guess that's the choice of your input you also choose..... As brutal as it may seem.. Love your channel... Info , with just the right Dash of Quirky... Beers in the Fridge if you ever make it to Straya'
That's for amateurs. REAL analogue lovers draw the images of WNN frame by frame in real time with charcoal on paper by the fireplace while listening to the audio version.
Ummmm.... I don't know if it's the #1 choice or not but I do know Cubase is very popular among composers. I am on quite a few different company's beta teams and a lot of the orchestral guys and film and tv composers do use Cubase. Bitwig is very popular among that crowd as well. I would think a lot of composers use Abelton too. I know a few that use Logic as well but Cubase is for sure pretty popular with them.
Cubase was superseded by Logic Pro X and Ableton mainly and they've been trying to take back that title for years. Things fell short after 6.5 imo, and only really started getting better around 11. It feels like Steinberg has this philosophy of making some incredible improvements while still missing the 5-10 that other DAWs have implemented. I'd still give it a few versions before they have enough features to where I switch back to Cubase from Logic Pro X.
@@VEXUS920 So the reason for my initial switching was that Logic offered audio plug-ins on MIDI data, something Cubase didn't have til around version 10. Logic also has a good amount of stock sounds that I've liked over Cubase, however, Cubase has gotten a lottttt better about their sound libraries as of recent. I started on Cubase 6 and 6.5, so there was a time where third party libraries were needed far more. It made Logic far more appealing. However, I'm planning on getting back into using Cubase more, especially with version 13 coming out
Cubase has for a while been a go to for many composers who work with midi, as it has integration with Dorico although most just use it exclusively for Cubase cause of the MIDI editing features. However it’s not the best for composing as digital performer outclasses it is so many ways in regards to film scoring (although Cubase definitely has good film scoring capabilities). I would say however the most popular for composers is Logic by far. Scoring in Abelton was a nightmare hassle and just not worth my time nor was its midi functionality good enough.
I think the biggest reason so many composers use Cubase is cause of the Expression mapping for sample libraries, u can’t do this in abelton without a shitty max for live device that doesn’t work right half the time.
...u can say whatever u want about cubase....but it was the mother of all daw production as we know it today....logic once was to cubase, what bitwig is today to ableton.....
Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL and many others, it is true that Cubase / Nuendo is more used by tv / cinema composers than any other DAW - mixing is still done in Pro Tools, but composing is on Steinberg. Logic is probably number two in this particular chart, Studio One is growing.
The underground, the lawless wild west, has always been the best places to find new art, whether they're disused warehouses, factory building etc where artists set up studios and musicians perform, or in digital settings too. Maybe Soundcloud got too popular and has gentrified in the same way property developers move in and ruin lively creative and most importantly cheap neighbourhoods, driving out said artists and musicians, and what made those places attractive in the first place
I switched from Cubase years ago to S1 but to be fair to the guy, yeah - Cubase is still quite a staple of professional studios, particularly when it comes to film scoring.
I will never use AI !!!! Blasphemy !!!! Now I'm off working on my 600th prefab techno loop wavepack album. On a serious note, Synthplant 2 is crazy fun. Happy accidents galore for drumsounds and short synth stabs.
3.:21 Yes.. In my Sphere , generally composers in the music for film/video field, work with either Cubase, DP or Logic. Not saying screen composers dont use anything else.. But AAF/OMF import export, and functioning video sync , cue exports for xml list matter... But , as for Drag and drop, dont play , just fiddle.... Nope... neither of what I've listed would be your choice.... Lets be clear.. Everyone can be professional, getting paid by writing music.... But scoring to picture cant be in the same orbit of comparison, to say EDM to Techno..... Its a level thats very different.... BTW.. Im not on any tier... Just pointing out what are differences.... Hans Zimmer? Cubase... John Powell ? Logic.... Just sayin'.. Professional Composers. Hope that answers the question you asked....
There's no such thing as a free izotope plugin :D JK, but they do hook you on the updates though, but even when you are 3 versions behind they are still really useful. Analog lab is very good with there minilab controllers, which are actually nicely priced.
3:12 I don't "Know" that it's not true, but I don't think it is. I personally know about a handful of composers and none of them use Cubase. They all use Logic. The only people I've known in the last 23 years that used Cubase were mixing engineers who only mixed rock music, like exclusively (you know the type, what ever you are picturing thats the ones I'm talking about). It's anecdotal, but............yeah.
You know, if you use AI in your music, and you don't tell people... eventually, the AI is gonna get pissed that you keep taking credit for its work... and it'll take revenge. You don't think AI could drain your bank account?🤣 One or 2 songs, you could get away with, but anything more, without fessing up, and you'll pay - you'll sit at red lights for the rest of your life, and that's just the beginning. You'd BETTER give AI the credit it deserves....
You say so because EQing is not your job. Every use of AI is good for people because it solves problems, and it is bad for those that charged you money to solve those same problems. Imagine an AI that can change the oil to your car, it’s really good for me and bad for my mechanic…. The same happened in the 1800s with the Industrial Revolution. Machines were good, unless you were an artisan….
AI will find it's place. Autotune was a dirty secret, then Cher and T-Pain cranked it up to 110%, and it's idiosyncrasies have been embraced. When people can use AI as a distinct creative tool rather then a means to an end i think it'll become more widely acceptable
What plugins arn't free? (joke) Cloud is coming prepare. Are you going to do a black friday segment? Like black friday sales are already roling and it isn't even officially black friday yet --- like image line has upgrade discounts from 25-50% for like a month or something. A lot of people don't use "mastering set" style plugso oddly -- I think people who can use attenuation of filters / tubes compressors etc.. if they actually are like real will benefit from it but a lot of people don't really know how to polish sound, and now that there are all these isnta mastering services floating around even less reason to understand some of the more complex dynamics like phasing/frequency clarities and mixing / rolloffs etc...the fact these plugs are being nomralized is great, as a lot of people making music these days don't have anything more than a usb keyboard / midi controller --- maybe it will raise the bar a bit on what people release, badly needed.
@@tmw3489 But as Dj said..... Its not a Talkbox or, especially a Vocoder.... Yes , it was available as hardware.. ( They also released Mic Modeler as hardware at the time... Truly groundbreaking.... Now Slate have stolen the idea) ....However, all Totally Different implementations and outcomes ... Just sayin. Autotune, especially the hardware, is not a Vocoder, nor is it a Talkbox.
I have been following your coverage of BandCamp situation @WeaverBeats …they (company who just purchased BC) are business people who are trying to redesign on the fly without understanding company environment at BC or musicians there. The big traction from producer beef? Isn’t the beef. It’s interviews by and between major UA-cam channels. Mr Brain (Ben, non profit guy) B O L O. Even B W B and Every other UA-cam titan that was doing balanced reporting with the intention to encourage balanced communication? Do that for BC for free, because it is a good thing to do (without being asked or paid to)? If you are correct about the way old BC helped bands? It will cause what is called a precedented sea change favoring artists and music. Like We are the World, only “We are The Producers” Make the sound design all Shazam with good sound and balanced points? It might work. More people are watching all of you than you all know. No pressure 🙏Respectfully ~ stefan
I quit the Native Instruments and Ozone thing when they started that stupid alliance BS. Nothing more annoying than getting a newsletter email and hoping to see some good updates to the software you love, but instead it's just an advertisement for some shitty PA plug-in that looks like it was made on MS paint from windows xp.
Long time (20 years) Cubase user here. Updated to Cubase 13, but it has the exactly the same low latency and real-time audio performance issues as Cubase 12 does. It's crazy that in 2 years they have not addressed the areas where the DAW is falling short. I think it is time to start learning how to edit in Studio One 5.5, as the performance is a lot better, and more stable there. Very disappointed, and really don't want to learn the workflow of another DAW, but Steinberg are forcing my hand.
That’s interesting I switched to Cubase from Ableton 4 years ago, (I use both still) but Cubase performs way better than Ableton on my Macbook pro, Ableton falls apart with some heavy vsts where the same rack in Cubase doesn’t. In that way maybe the grass isn’t greener.
Reaper has a good rep for mixing, and is a lot cheaper...
I find Reaper works well!
Studio One is phenomenal
Bitwig!
Solidarity with the Bandcamp workers!
Yeah, that pro is right - analog professionals have always elevated the warm sounding classic Cubase effortlessly
I almost spit out my coffee when you said analog warmed with a delay effect, and I’m not even drinking coffee.
Cubase for composers, yup.
The midi features still can’t be topped.
I have all the Fabfilter plugins except their super old ones (mini filter, one, and something else) and my discounted price for Pro-R2 was $59 which made it an ez purchase for me.
Love the news you bring me buddy. Love you Say it back
It back
I don't need to hide AI in my music because I don't even know what the fuck AI does that isn't already done by a program. The fun of music is making it, I don't need to turn my only skill into an idle game.
The Farbfilter pro R 2 is pretty dope!🔥🔥
Cubase has been around forever. Back in the cooledit days cubase was the next step up in DAWs imo. Cubase or Sonar was the Go to's
Audius is the new Soundlcloud. It’s the Wild West there. But it’s decentralized.
The Epic layoff process at Epic was done without any consultation of any managers or leads at any sub-levels. Basically, some higher up paper pushers erased lines on a spreadsheet, and then put it on managers to gather and combat the decision if they felt an error had been made. But in doing so, the person in question would also lose their severance package as the process would be delayed over the tight deadline, by design, of course.
SoundCloud trying to compete with regular streaming is it's downfall, it was an awesome place to get some unofficial remixes, mashups and all kinds of stuff that wont fly on Spotify and such due to copyright, being the wild west was a big part of the appeal... Of course not to the average Joe, sometimes it's better to have a dedicated smaller audience than try to cater to common person
Pro Tip ~ It's not a sale if it is always on sale!
That's just regular price.
Also Chinese food...........in China they just call it food.
We are reaching analogue warmth! 👀🫣
Almost there! 😂😂😂
Thnx for the infiltrator tip …that thing is awesome!!!!
Soundcloud never bothered to add a volume control to their embedded web player (for sharing on other websites / forums), resulting in a decade of deafening sound blasts. For that reason alone, they deserve to fail.
Seriously, if there was a bandcamp type of business with a Spotify style streaming UI I would happily use and support the service. Even if it lacked the music variety that Spotify and Apple Music has. They need a legit iPad App and a dark mode at least.
7:24
LOL.. Most artists today would hide the fact they use Loops, sample packs, etc........ Mwhahahahhahahahahaha
Full songs can be drag and drop also... Guess that's the choice of your input you also choose.....
As brutal as it may seem.. Love your channel... Info , with just the right Dash of Quirky...
Beers in the Fridge if you ever make it to Straya'
and those drag and drop tracks suck ass. Just like AI
I think I should start to watch WNN on a CRT just to experience mighty Analog Warmth to the fullest 🤔
That's for amateurs. REAL analogue lovers draw the images of WNN frame by frame in real time with charcoal on paper by the fireplace while listening to the audio version.
Ummmm.... I don't know if it's the #1 choice or not but I do know Cubase is very popular among composers. I am on quite a few different company's beta teams and a lot of the orchestral guys and film and tv composers do use Cubase. Bitwig is very popular among that crowd as well. I would think a lot of composers use Abelton too. I know a few that use Logic as well but Cubase is for sure pretty popular with them.
Here is the news!!
Cubase was superseded by Logic Pro X and Ableton mainly and they've been trying to take back that title for years. Things fell short after 6.5 imo, and only really started getting better around 11. It feels like Steinberg has this philosophy of making some incredible improvements while still missing the 5-10 that other DAWs have implemented. I'd still give it a few versions before they have enough features to where I switch back to Cubase from Logic Pro X.
What do you prefer in Logic over Cubase? I'm a Cubase user I'm curious what made you switch?
@@VEXUS920 So the reason for my initial switching was that Logic offered audio plug-ins on MIDI data, something Cubase didn't have til around version 10. Logic also has a good amount of stock sounds that I've liked over Cubase, however, Cubase has gotten a lottttt better about their sound libraries as of recent.
I started on Cubase 6 and 6.5, so there was a time where third party libraries were needed far more. It made Logic far more appealing. However, I'm planning on getting back into using Cubase more, especially with version 13 coming out
Cubase has for a while been a go to for many composers who work with midi, as it has integration with Dorico although most just use it exclusively for Cubase cause of the MIDI editing features. However it’s not the best for composing as digital performer outclasses it is so many ways in regards to film scoring (although Cubase definitely has good film scoring capabilities). I would say however the most popular for composers is Logic by far. Scoring in Abelton was a nightmare hassle and just not worth my time nor was its midi functionality good enough.
I think the biggest reason so many composers use Cubase is cause of the Expression mapping for sample libraries, u can’t do this in abelton without a shitty max for live device that doesn’t work right half the time.
...u can say whatever u want about cubase....but it was the mother of all daw production as we know it today....logic once was to cubase, what bitwig is today to ableton.....
Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL and many others, it is true that Cubase / Nuendo is more used by tv / cinema composers than any other DAW - mixing is still done in Pro Tools, but composing is on Steinberg. Logic is probably number two in this particular chart, Studio One is growing.
I wonder how many composers and orchestrators have Cubase for the purpose of working in or collaborating with Remote Control (Hans's company).
another infiltrator reference lets gooooo
The underground, the lawless wild west, has always been the best places to find new art, whether they're disused warehouses, factory building etc where artists set up studios and musicians perform, or in digital settings too. Maybe Soundcloud got too popular and has gentrified in the same way property developers move in and ruin lively creative and most importantly cheap neighbourhoods, driving out said artists and musicians, and what made those places attractive in the first place
I switched from Cubase years ago to S1 but to be fair to the guy, yeah - Cubase is still quite a staple of professional studios, particularly when it comes to film scoring.
I will never use AI !!!! Blasphemy !!!! Now I'm off working on my 600th prefab techno loop wavepack album.
On a serious note, Synthplant 2 is crazy fun. Happy accidents galore for drumsounds and short synth stabs.
can you review the new landr mastering plugin please.. Stranjah just promoted in on his channel so i am assuming it is really good
This is my go to news, far better than mainstream by a mile :)
My water heater provides analog warmth…
News!
Dan Whorrall on the tutorial got me feeling some thing for once.
corporations love to whine at how much they spend on labor...
Cubase is referring to Hans Zimmer using it.
3.:21
Yes.. In my Sphere , generally composers in the music for film/video field, work with either Cubase, DP or Logic.
Not saying screen composers dont use anything else.. But AAF/OMF import export, and functioning video sync , cue exports for xml list matter...
But , as for Drag and drop, dont play , just fiddle.... Nope... neither of what I've listed would be your choice....
Lets be clear.. Everyone can be professional, getting paid by writing music.... But scoring to picture cant be in the same orbit of comparison, to say EDM to Techno..... Its a level thats very different....
BTW.. Im not on any tier... Just pointing out what are differences....
Hans Zimmer? Cubase...
John Powell ? Logic....
Just sayin'..
Professional Composers.
Hope that answers the question you asked....
I think Bandlab is the new soundcloud
INSANE that I believed you featured INSANE free plugins.
Over sold? Yeah, but does it have analog warmth?
I paid $29 for the latest R2, upgrade price plus student discount 😅😅😅 worth it even if it’s sucks which it won’t
My upgrade was 59.
It seems like it depends on what you own from them. The cited price was from a third party distributor.
american pricing is out of control!
Dom Sígalas is a Cubase spokesman so yeah he’s really selling it to you.
It’s an ad for Cubase, so… we know.
Good news program
I’ve worked with some of the bigger composers in hollywood, and every single one of them use Cubase.
There's no such thing as a free izotope plugin :D JK, but they do hook you on the updates though, but even when you are 3 versions behind they are still really useful. Analog lab is very good with there minilab controllers, which are actually nicely priced.
I use Version 9 and 3 and they work just fine
I have no idea where to even start using AI for music, but I would be interested in running my own songs through it and seeing what comes out.
Well yeah actually composers rarely used anything but PT, cubase or occasionally logic, atleast in the film space
PT, composers? No.
PT is for recording.
@@brmbkl well the popularity makes ppl use it anyways
Always be Shill'n for Infiltrator... :P
"It's got analogue warmth.." kind of reminds me of "it's got electrolytes.." from Idiocracy. Nobody living today actually know what it means.
nono, make with the daylight assaults, things need to be shaken up a bit around here 🤣give the local nimby parents something to bicker about.
Cubase is beginning to achieve analog warm
im here too early
3:12 I don't "Know" that it's not true, but I don't think it is. I personally know about a handful of composers and none of them use Cubase. They all use Logic. The only people I've known in the last 23 years that used Cubase were mixing engineers who only mixed rock music, like exclusively (you know the type, what ever you are picturing thats the ones I'm talking about). It's anecdotal, but............yeah.
I've experimented with some ai music generators. about 1 track out of every 15 is decent. still has a long way to go.
Hmmm with cubase 13, Steinberg seems to have finally ditched their nutty dongle and single pc licensing which always made me pass.. Hmmm
You know, if you use AI in your music, and you don't tell people... eventually, the AI is gonna get pissed that you keep taking credit for its work... and it'll take revenge. You don't think AI could drain your bank account?🤣 One or 2 songs, you could get away with, but anything more, without fessing up, and you'll pay - you'll sit at red lights for the rest of your life, and that's just the beginning. You'd BETTER give AI the credit it deserves....
Flexbeat- as long as your song stays in 4/4 😢 is gross beat able to handle non 4/4 time signatures?
Smart EQ3 is AI powered and it is incredible. It’s a perfect example of good use of AI for problem solving rather than creativity.
You say so because EQing is not your job. Every use of AI is good for people because it solves problems, and it is bad for those that charged you money to solve those same problems. Imagine an AI that can change the oil to your car, it’s really good for me and bad for my mechanic….
The same happened in the 1800s with the Industrial Revolution. Machines were good, unless you were an artisan….
Hit the like button and it’s daylight, come at me bro! 😂
AI will find it's place. Autotune was a dirty secret, then Cher and T-Pain cranked it up to 110%, and it's idiosyncrasies have been embraced. When people can use AI as a distinct creative tool rather then a means to an end i think it'll become more widely acceptable
The Pro-R 2 upgrade from R is $60.
The price I cited was from a third party distributor
Roger that. I'm going to hold out until I decide to inject a bathroom fart impulse response for making my bells shimmer.@@Weaverbeats
169 naw the ios ver will be 40$ bucks
What plugins arn't free? (joke) Cloud is coming prepare. Are you going to do a black friday segment? Like black friday sales are already roling and it isn't even officially black friday yet --- like image line has upgrade discounts from 25-50% for like a month or something. A lot of people don't use "mastering set" style plugso oddly -- I think people who can use attenuation of filters / tubes compressors etc.. if they actually are like real will benefit from it but a lot of people don't really know how to polish sound, and now that there are all these isnta mastering services floating around even less reason to understand some of the more complex dynamics like phasing/frequency clarities and mixing / rolloffs etc...the fact these plugs are being nomralized is great, as a lot of people making music these days don't have anything more than a usb keyboard / midi controller --- maybe it will raise the bar a bit on what people release, badly needed.
👁👁👁
Ay listen I won’t stand for mfs clowning Dom Sigalas he’s a Cubase boss and knows his shx with audio. You can’t judge by company product videos.
Autotune is not a vocoder or talkbox! It is It's own thing because it's software and not hardware!
So what am i looking at in my rack then?
@@tmw3489 What are you looking at to be clear.
@@Rhythmatticaautotune hardware in my rack made by Antares
@@tmw3489 But as Dj said..... Its not a Talkbox or, especially a Vocoder.... Yes , it was available as hardware.. ( They also released Mic Modeler as hardware at the time... Truly groundbreaking.... Now Slate have stolen the idea) ....However, all Totally Different implementations and outcomes ... Just sayin.
Autotune, especially the hardware, is not a Vocoder, nor is it a Talkbox.
@@Rhythmattica ppl just wanna be correct all the time lol
I have been following your coverage of BandCamp situation @WeaverBeats …they (company who just purchased BC) are business people who are trying to redesign on the fly without understanding company environment at BC or musicians there. The big traction from producer beef? Isn’t the beef. It’s interviews by and between major UA-cam channels. Mr Brain (Ben, non profit guy) B O L O. Even B W B and Every other UA-cam titan that was doing balanced reporting with the intention to encourage balanced communication? Do that for BC for free, because it is a good thing to do (without being asked or paid to)? If you are correct about the way old BC helped bands? It will cause what is called a precedented sea change favoring artists and music. Like We are the World, only “We are The Producers”
Make the sound design all Shazam with good sound and balanced points? It might work. More people are watching all of you than you all know. No pressure 🙏Respectfully ~ stefan