Why Ruan Mei Will End Bronya's Reign! A New Era Of Supporters | Honkai Star Rail

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  • @dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483
    @dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 9 місяців тому +39

    Bronya will still be up there at the top with her, all the top teams out there will have both Bronya and Ruan Mei together anyway. When it comes to hypercarry, Bronya is really unbeatable. RM will completely outdo her when it comes to double DPS

    • @REHOO
      @REHOO  9 місяців тому +10

      Actual facts right here

    • @ImagineCats9339
      @ImagineCats9339 9 місяців тому +9

      i wouldn't say she's unbeatable , even right now there are some dps that prefer tingyun over bronya like jinguan /clara/ dr.ratio ..., and dot teams usually prefer asta , and others like DHIL / Seele / QQ will prefer to play with sparkle , Bronya will stay an amazing support , but not really the best support in the game anymore

    • @icysnowcap
      @icysnowcap 9 місяців тому +4

      In my opinion, I think Harmony characters can’t be power creeped

    • @Hhhh22222-w
      @Hhhh22222-w 9 місяців тому

      Bronya is free basically too, no need to compare

    • @dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483
      @dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 9 місяців тому +4

      @@Hhhh22222-w No she is not. She is harder to get than limited characters because there is no guarantee in the standard banner. The only guarantee is to summon 300 times in the standard to select her, but that's after spending 300 you could have spent to get many limited characters.

  • @rax7352
    @rax7352 9 місяців тому +14

    Unless there's another character that switches turns comes out, I dont think Bronya would be out of meta.

    • @REHOO
      @REHOO  9 місяців тому

      She wont be out of meta for sure

  • @HSRFirefly
    @HSRFirefly 9 місяців тому +7

    Just going to say.
    As someone who provides literally the same buffs as Kazuha (Dmg Bonus + Res Pen), RM should never be a skip. Imo skipping her is a dumb move considering how undervalued her buffs are in the eyes of some

  • @rparlcisd4488
    @rparlcisd4488 9 місяців тому +6

    Basically Ruan Mei is more beneficial for Veteran players. For new players they should pull her on her rerun or when the account is matured enough and Well Built DPS is already present. But if you are still new to the game and still building a DPS Pull her on the rerun. With Sparkle Circling around and how her kit compares to bronya yep That is more friendlier for new players.

    • @Kaostanza
      @Kaostanza 9 місяців тому

      I'd say the opposite. I'm a Day 1 player and I don't want or need Ruan Mei despite how broken she is.
      She's universally strong so I think newbies would appreciate her more, especially with her break-effect oriented gameplay it would benefit new players much more than someone like Bronya early who wants a built hypercarry.

    • @trendmadegamer8725
      @trendmadegamer8725 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Kaostanzaso is SW. Newbie would like her too

    • @Kaostanza
      @Kaostanza 8 місяців тому

      Tbh I disagree, if you're late that's not really true. With Ruan Mei and Sparkle coming up and potentially getting Bronya who will still be top tier, you can just focus on bigger spikes and play Pela for debuffers (and whoever else there is)@@trendmadegamer8725

  • @_Sascha_
    @_Sascha_ 9 місяців тому +6

    You can clearly see how "busted" Bronyas skill kit is in a turn based system, when a 5 star char like Ruan Mei comes around - new and shiny, with alle the stat boosts - and we still value Bronya on par.

  • @potatopcgamer739
    @potatopcgamer739 9 місяців тому +12

    bronya will always be needed for faster cycle clear for hyper carries

    • @REHOO
      @REHOO  9 місяців тому +1

      We will have to see how a buffed out dual dps team is vs a hypercarry with bronya

    • @zoidf2912
      @zoidf2912 9 місяців тому

      Yeah, but the only issue with Bronya, especially with DPS like Jingliu, is the turn mechanics of Bronya's first skill, which get used up in Jingliu's unbuffed state. But still both Ruan and Bronya are going to be really good,

    • @loider3365
      @loider3365 9 місяців тому

      Whereas RM skill lasts for 3 turns that's based off her turn simila to FX, which means her buff wouldn't get tick down by JL action advance forward. Although bronya is still better for JL team comp.

    • @zoidf2912
      @zoidf2912 9 місяців тому +1

      @@loider3365 exactly my guy! it might not be much for some people, but it's really huge specially during first turn MOC.

    • @RezDK
      @RezDK 9 місяців тому +1

      Ruan mei > bronya👏👏

  • @Shin-gn7ng
    @Shin-gn7ng 8 місяців тому +2

    Always see titles like how ruan Mei will replace/is better/overshadow bronya and whatnot but y doesn’t anyone mention how ruan Mei & bronya have the best dual support synergy, on top of stacking her own buffs, bronya can also force ur dps to have more turns during ruan Mei’s buff since her buff duration is dependent on her turns and not the other units’

  • @Lordmaster316
    @Lordmaster316 9 місяців тому +2

    Me Skipping ruan mei
    Going for Sparkles
    Gonna pick bronya on standard banner selector just 30 pulls away from 300
    I manage to get Bronya's signature lightcone on standard banner yesterday so im destined to get bronya

  • @marcotibayanmalone7158
    @marcotibayanmalone7158 8 місяців тому +1

    Hybrid break being extra viable now? Noice. I gotta refarm relics anyway so this is gonna be great lol

  • @Omniverse544
    @Omniverse544 9 місяців тому +4

    Ruan mei is gonna be the best harmony char in pure fiction where dual dps team is better than hyper carry team. Kuru kuru nigasanai.

    • @REHOO
      @REHOO  9 місяців тому

      YES SIRRR

  • @vander1135
    @vander1135 9 місяців тому +2

    nah ruan will just give you better option when fighting under certain circumstances. bronya actually gives better damage output and extra energy under certain build(when the dps is faster than bronya then said dps can just basic to generate extra energy) for a solo dps but ruan mei will probably the best value when an account is mature and have more dps and support of every element to fully take advantage of her full kit.

    • @rparlcisd4488
      @rparlcisd4488 9 місяців тому

      Yep Correct New players should not consider pulling for her if no well built dps is present. Matured accounts and whales are the ones who will benefit with RM. thats why i dont understand why tons of HSR content creator hype her so much that she will be the new God tier of the game when in fact she just enabled matured and whale accounts to do more numbers.

  • @TheWoodcookie
    @TheWoodcookie 9 місяців тому +2

    I'm only skipping because I'd like to have black swan or sparkle more(undecided). I also never got bronya yet so I'll be happy to get her in 19 more pulls bby

    • @_Sascha_
      @_Sascha_ 9 місяців тому

      If you can afford it, I would try to get Ruan Mei. She just brings too much value for any team you have. Black Swan and Sparkle could be more niche, I don't know for sure). In the end pull for whoever you like!

    • @TheWoodcookie
      @TheWoodcookie 9 місяців тому

      @_Sascha_ nah, I'm at 0. I went for sw weapon since I got really lucky on e2 her first banner. I'm still not 100 % decided, but it's looking to be swan for kafka or sparkle for seele. Mei will poetically be good with anyone, but I have an e4s1 seele and e2s1sw

    • @rparlcisd4488
      @rparlcisd4488 9 місяців тому

      Also skipping for her since my account is still not matured enough to do shit ton of damage. I thibk she is more ideal for matured accounts with well built DPS. But for new Players or for players just casually playing the game yep Sparkle migjt be a good value specially if you are still far away from the 300 pulls and pick that bronya banner.

  • @ahoytyler
    @ahoytyler 9 місяців тому

    I can’t wait to try her out! She seems really interesting and would be a great addition to any new player’s team if they haven’t got Bronya yet!

  • @Cadmun
    @Cadmun 9 місяців тому +1

    Bronya + Ruan Mei on the same team is going to be FILTHY AND ILLEGAL

  • @RePollster
    @RePollster 9 місяців тому +6

    The only character that could "threaten" Bronya is Sparkle imo, but even then you can just put one of them on the other team so it doesn't even matter.

    • @TheWindsofWonder
      @TheWindsofWonder 9 місяців тому +5

      While I think Sparkle will push Bronya even farther down, Ruan Mei will still push Bronya further down the tier list ( I think all three will still be ranked S+ tier but the order of Bronya will go last). The primary reason is that Ruan Mei works in pretty much every scenario in which you'd want to use Bronya BUT Bronya doesn't work in every scenario in which you want to use Ruan Mei. Bronya is truly just best for hypercarry comps. She loses value in Dual DPS and DoT comps. More DPS characters that like being used in Dual DPS comps are being released (Clara, Blade, Jing Liu, Topaz, and soon Dr. Ratio).

    • @RezDK
      @RezDK 9 місяців тому +2

      Ruan mei > bronya 👏👏

    • @Prodagist
      @Prodagist 9 місяців тому

      Sparkle won't affect bronya that much. Mind you, her kit is subject to change, since she's still pretty far away, but with the way Sparkle's talent works, she will ONLY work with Dan heng IL and Seele. She literally will not function with any other dps, So if you use a dps other than those two, and want turn manipulating, Bronya will still be far superior

    • @rparlcisd4488
      @rparlcisd4488 9 місяців тому

      Sparkle is a different scenario she will enable DHIL with Bronya Comps to create a nuclear disaster. The common build for DHIL for now is make your supports faster and DHIL slow. While Having Sparkle you could now attached bronya to that DHIL comp instead of yukong which means Sparkle and Bronya could Push DHIL more frequent without worrying about the SP with HuoHuo sitting in the corner she could enable sparkle generate ton of SP with that energy regeneration this also where possibly luocha will be dethroned. who needs his SP positivity when you can shit ton generate a skill point and just nuke the enemy.

  • @RezDK
    @RezDK 9 місяців тому +2

    What i don't like about bronya is when u E jingliu and get her 2nd stack the dmg buff is gone when she goes into enhanced state since it only lasts 1 turn and her ult is pretty much useless on dot teams ruan mei on the other hand buffs for 3 entire turns and is more sp efficient
    Ruan mei > bronya 👏👏

  • @ThatOneGuy7550
    @ThatOneGuy7550 9 місяців тому

    "a new era of supporters" wow I didn't know that you're telling me this for the first time

  • @papag4446
    @papag4446 9 місяців тому

    I NEED HELP PLZZZZ !!
    I have seele and i don't know which could be a greater support Ruan mei or Silver wolf paired with E1 Welt
    My other team is Clara E2 Lynx march tinguyan

  • @didwewin90
    @didwewin90 8 місяців тому

    Better in other ways but can't change Bronya's role on a party that needed her...

  • @vancomycin4736
    @vancomycin4736 9 місяців тому

    Ruan Mei at E1 giving (DMG+32%)+(All Res Pen+25%)+(DMG+36%)+(DMG+24%)+(Ignore Def+20%) +(10% speed to all)+(Breaking Kit+Mark)
    Really really OP

    • @leeleeofficialTH
      @leeleeofficialTH 9 місяців тому

      She's like Tingyun,asta and pela all in one + Break mechanism. I can't wait for her...

    • @ZFreyr
      @ZFreyr 9 місяців тому

      dayum

    • @Marcel111sch
      @Marcel111sch 8 місяців тому

      I mean comparing a e0 bronya against this makes it not that crazy because every buff bronya gives is at e0 and trust me I know what a well build bronya can put out

    • @bossmahdelina8438
      @bossmahdelina8438 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Marcel111schAnd? Ngl that "trust me" is so cringe. protagonist syndrome at it's finest.

    • @vancomycin4736
      @vancomycin4736 8 місяців тому

      Yooooo! 😂

  • @yllemini5092
    @yllemini5092 9 місяців тому

    Smb like Bronya will never be dethroned, harmony characters in general have their own niche and the only way u can possibly dethrone is by doing smth thats already been done but better.

  • @3.16music
    @3.16music 9 місяців тому +3

    I am definitely pulling for her. 50/50 though…

    • @REHOO
      @REHOO  9 місяців тому +1

      Shes going to be insane GOOD LUCK

    • @tasho345
      @tasho345 9 місяців тому

      0 pity, on top of that. I do have over 150 wishes... but if I want her LC.......

  • @TrailblazerCaules20
    @TrailblazerCaules20 9 місяців тому +2

    Well, Bronya's skill that can buff DMG and extra action is nice. So I prefer her instead 😂

    • @REHOO
      @REHOO  9 місяців тому +1

      Ruan mei buffs dmg as well

  • @sanstorye
    @sanstorye 9 місяців тому

    Just a little question, Ruan Mei or Hanabi ?? Ty for your video

  • @goodmoringful
    @goodmoringful 9 місяців тому

    Have you ever heard the quote, being alive is better than being dead. You are clearly underestimating bronya’s skill ability, called “double tap”. Her skill is probably one of the most broken in the game considering how rare it is and how it can give players more of a chance to deal more blows to the enemy. Ruan Mei is more of an amplifying unit, but she isn’t as unique cuz any developers can slap the same types of break effect skill to another character. Ruan Mei is definitely going to be strong especially when she is being released but who knows if other characters in the future would provide the same buffs and debuffs. Since we still have 2.0 coming out with another harmony class character.

  • @biancasawbridgeworth1386
    @biancasawbridgeworth1386 8 місяців тому

    It's all Yelan and Xingqiu again

  • @pincopallino1135
    @pincopallino1135 9 місяців тому

    I don't get the hype, you have to match the element of enemies in order to abuse break efficiency, is not that everyone has 10+ well built teams right?
    Plus she is not quantum, so she doesn't work well with sw

  • @JONtheULTIMATE
    @JONtheULTIMATE 9 місяців тому

    If you have jing liu, bronya will be her top support, you don't need her. But as someone who plays MOC I might use her for my IL

    • @Refaey435
      @Refaey435 9 місяців тому

      Why not use both? Jingliu+bronya+ruan mei+huohuo, would that work?

    • @JONtheULTIMATE
      @JONtheULTIMATE 9 місяців тому

      @Refaey435 I always have a preservation unit. Not saying I'm not pulling for her, because I am. But you don't "Really" need her unless you have the funds and your trying for some clears for MoC.

  • @dragonkus6934
    @dragonkus6934 9 місяців тому +2

    Hanabi will take trophy 🏆 when shes released

    • @Ilikegames804
      @Ilikegames804 9 місяців тому

      Ehh not really units like JingLiu and Blade won't like her so Bonya would be better the same goes for Seele, Topaz, and Argenti. This might not be the case if her skill gave flat dmg% that increases the more sp you use in that buffed state but from what it looks like only gamba girl and dhil will use her and even then DHIL current best team that uses Bronya can guarantee ULT every 2 rotations which would drastically lower his Skill point usage effectively turning DHIL only -1,-2 SP and pls keep in mind Hanabi gives more dmg% based off of how many SP the unit uses.

    • @Prodagist
      @Prodagist 9 місяців тому +1

      Other comment above is basically correct but. if they dont change how her kit works currently, which I doubt they'll change much, Sparkle is likely the most Niche character they've ever released. Sparkle with her current kit will ONLY function with Dan Heng IL and Seele. Literally any other Dps cannot use her, you'd be better off going with a 4 star harmony at that point

    • @dragonkus6934
      @dragonkus6934 9 місяців тому +1

      @Prodagist that's a very old kit tho.. I can't imagine Hoyo making A 5* just to work with 1 single character..
      either way ( to me) it's a win win situation Main Dan,IL here 😁

    • @Prodagist
      @Prodagist 9 місяців тому +1

      @@dragonkus6934 If you main IL then I guess none of that matters lmao, she's going to make him broken, so enjoy making things like swarm diff 5 cry. As for her kits, it is fairly old leaks, and yes they are definitely subject to change, so she could become more functional with other character, although I don't think they'll make any major changes, so she'll likely keep mostly the same synergies.

    • @rparlcisd4488
      @rparlcisd4488 9 місяців тому +1

      Sparkle is a different Scenario she could push DHIL where you cant even imagine. With how HuoHuo is really universal and really synergystic with Sparkle she could enable sparkle spit a ton of SP and use that on DHIL so basically Sparkle is DHIL enabler thats where we could now really abuse DHIL true potential.

  • @trongoan4342
    @trongoan4342 9 місяців тому +1

    Better than Bronya? THAT IS NEVER, Ruan Mei design for Dot, Break, Follow up Atk, Duo carry and some character don't need Atk% buff(like Blade)
    Bronya design for Hyper carry. Is difference! Total DMG buff from Bronya still higher than any Harmony out there, and 100% Advanced Action Forward (plus clean) still the most broken thing ever exist, is just double everything your DPS have
    P/s: And by the way, the buff Ruan Mei have is 101% dmg and 25% Pen from her kit and LC
    Bronya have.... 109% DMG, 55% Atk, 40~50% CR Dmg and 15% Atk from technique. 25% Pen and 100% dmg from Ruan Mei can bypass this? I don't think so!

    • @HSRFirefly
      @HSRFirefly 9 місяців тому +1

      Lilbro, 25% all res pen is a literal 25% final dmg increase, Bronya's Ult CANT give that much. Maybe do some fact check first

  • @ChewwyPew
    @ChewwyPew 9 місяців тому +1

    Should i pull for ruan mei or sparkle is the real question haha

    • @REHOO
      @REHOO  9 місяців тому

      Thats a hard question for sure

    • @Prodagist
      @Prodagist 9 місяців тому

      If you run Dan Heng IL or Seele as your main Dps, go for Sparkle, if you run literally any other Dps, Ruan mei. All of this can be ignored however if you have a character you want more. Pull for who you want, but if you only care about how op they'll make your team, use the above information

  • @FoxSiR
    @FoxSiR 9 місяців тому +4

    easiest E1 in my life

    • @REHOO
      @REHOO  9 місяців тому +1

      Im thinking the exact same

    • @davidbai3543
      @davidbai3543 9 місяців тому

      Same.

  • @TeyKLive
    @TeyKLive 9 місяців тому

    my clara dosen't care about ruan mei sadge

  • @xerei7226
    @xerei7226 9 місяців тому

    As long is ice unit! I am in! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤣

  • @monakasan7486
    @monakasan7486 9 місяців тому

    as a relatively new player, she seems quite similar to Silver Wolf, I do wonder if I have SW, should I still pull for her?

    • @rparlcisd4488
      @rparlcisd4488 9 місяців тому +1

      Basically having SW saves you shit ton of resources.For Ruan Mei If you have well built DPS having her will unleashed her insane value. But if you have no well built DPS with those 100/200 crit ratios and at least 2800 atk its better to pull for her rerun.

    • @monakasan7486
      @monakasan7486 9 місяців тому

      @@rparlcisd4488 will they be on the same team? Or either is fine?

    • @rparlcisd4488
      @rparlcisd4488 9 місяців тому +1

      Yep SW could be a good synergy with Ruan Mei with how SW Break efficiency is really bonkers. They just both enable a DPS reach its more peak numbers. if you are a new player basically just build your DPS first so you can steam roll the content you could pull ruan mei in rerun

    • @monakasan7486
      @monakasan7486 9 місяців тому

      @@rparlcisd4488 thanks for the info, but how exactly does having SW help save tons of resources?😱😱 I didnt realize that

  • @zmkatsu4885
    @zmkatsu4885 9 місяців тому +2

    Ruan mei will be better than bronya IN dual comps meta, but bronya still the best in hypercarry setup.
    But the problem is, hsr meta will be more into dual comps anytime soon knowing we have teams like:
    1. Jingliu+Blade comps
    2. Jing Yuan+Topaz comps
    3. Seele+SW sub dps comps
    4. Dot comps
    5. Himeko+Herta comps
    And dont forget clara+any dps comps
    Hypercarry still viable infact that's what every new or intermediate player have to runs for resource efficiency. But endgame player like us who now have many dps to fills, dual comps will become more shiny in hsr meta.

    • @rparlcisd4488
      @rparlcisd4488 9 місяців тому

      Thats a whale mindset right there. Contents in HSR is still clearable without those dual dps comp. With sparkle circling around that also providing advanced turns i dont think dual dps comp will dominate HSR meta and dual DPS is not anF2P option.

    • @zmkatsu4885
      @zmkatsu4885 9 місяців тому

      @@rparlcisd4488 im f2p and i already going dual dps comps already but, the comps category following by likes of DoT-Follow Up-Dual Dps-Hypercarry team can be cleared with anything... BUT
      We already seen so many turbulence moc going on who indicates the team comps get hype like destruction meta, follow up meta, erudition meta and dont forget dot meta all of them got their spotlight whenever new character comes in the patch.
      This has been going on like genshin who favor the enemy from the patch itself till the end of their game. HSR meta has been change alot because we can't take rest unlike genshin have some time for their meta spiral abyss.
      There's no staple meta in hsr their endgame can always change whenever the dev decide to for fck everyone up. That's why in future dual dps comps will be shine alot compared to usual hypercarry team that already been running for the past 8 month a row. They have their place but not as shine as dual dps comps in short "viable but not optimal".

  • @looots1320
    @looots1320 9 місяців тому

    Is she better than Bronya? they both hot just pull
    all my unit since the start are the female ones, Seele Silver Fu Kafka Jingliu

  • @andreesprz1316
    @andreesprz1316 9 місяців тому

    Skipping, mono quantum here I come!

  • @newmoonjoe5460
    @newmoonjoe5460 9 місяців тому

    She doesn't work with clara minus 50 points

    • @kurobot100
      @kurobot100 9 місяців тому

      She does though

    • @newmoonjoe5460
      @newmoonjoe5460 9 місяців тому

      @@kurobot100 explain I'm curious how counter attacks work with broken enemy's unless ur just using her for the pen buff not the break buff

    • @kurobot100
      @kurobot100 9 місяців тому

      @@newmoonjoe5460 pen buff could also make clara ignore enemy weakness type but if its physical her damage will probably skyrocket specially in boss mobs that have high physical toughness bar

    • @newmoonjoe5460
      @newmoonjoe5460 9 місяців тому

      @@kurobot100 but what I saying is u want her to counter attack ruen might not be the best since u want to break enemy's and they cant hit u if there broken she will good but not the best with Clara is my point unless ur just use damage and pen buff to not break just dps increase she could still be used

  • @billdecou242
    @billdecou242 9 місяців тому

    Different at least. Bronya will stoll be better for solo hyper carries but RM will work with turn hogs and someone like Jing Yuen where you just super charge what he does instead or changing what he does in terms of rotation.

  • @Marcel111sch
    @Marcel111sch 8 місяців тому

    I mean, I understand what you're saying, but for me personally there isn't much use in weaknessbreak weaknesses because as a whale they die before the shield is broken. I know not everyone spends a lot on this game, but Bronya is still a 5 star who you can get for free just by playing the game even her lightcone, that's not something Ruan May is able to do. I'm not saying you can't get a 5 star for free, but you still don't have to focus to get her and can save your stellar. In the end both are good in her own way and for me personally i dont summon for ruan mei i wait for hanabi aka sparkle because i like her design more and i hope she will be a good adition to my account because even as a whale there is no need to get every character trust me thats not worth at all

    • @bossmahdelina8438
      @bossmahdelina8438 8 місяців тому

      "trust me" so cringe

    • @vancomycin4736
      @vancomycin4736 8 місяців тому

      Yooooo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @vancomycin4736
      @vancomycin4736 8 місяців тому

      You even made a whole sh.t paragraph mr.protag 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Marcel111sch
      @Marcel111sch 8 місяців тому

      @@bossmahdelina8438 trust me idc If that's all you can say, I can already know your age based on this stupidity alone. I've played a lot of gacha games to know what's worth or not and I'm sure I've already surpassed your lifetime earnings with this, if you want to prove me wrong Just because you're simping for her I really don't care

    • @Marcel111sch
      @Marcel111sch 8 місяців тому

      @@vancomycin4736is the only thing you can do are stuck in your friend's ass for the fullest? that's sad when you can’t have your own thoughts I only see you commenting together because alone you are so weak like the love you got from your parents

  • @runic6452
    @runic6452 9 місяців тому

    she basically fixes the only problem with bronya, being that there is only one bronya

  • @nencrows_4580
    @nencrows_4580 9 місяців тому

    They do two completly different things. So it won't happen.

    • @REHOO
      @REHOO  9 місяців тому

      They do cover two different team archetypes

  • @prophet4722
    @prophet4722 9 місяців тому

    Ruan Mei, ngl overrated. Bronya is the best