Tbh my unpopular opinion is just I hate the purple suit and I enjoy the more dominatrix-esque black suit. I enjoy a catwoman personally who isn’t rich, so so the more street-look appeals the me. I prefer an anti-hero catwoman with a cynical mindset shaped by growing up on the street, not trusting those in power and the rich/elites) I enjoy when she struggles between her own self-interest and doing the right thing, with the altruism winning out in the end.
I think if cat-woman ever has a more permanent protégé or side-kick they should be called Kitten. I think it would be cute and, of course, they could always get a new persona once they age up, like how Dick went from boy wonder to Nightwing.
What would the age up title be? I can’t think of one. Obviously it’d have to be cat related but not Catwoman and not Tigress because she’s already an entirely different character.
@@Evoker23-lx8mb Could go with a few things depending on the gender. Puma, Lion, Jungle King, Fang, Tom Cat. Start adding colors and we got a few more variations. I think it could work.
@@icesoul17z or even sticking with Selina’s Italian background (in certain versions where Carmine Falcone is her father) could go with Gatta or Gatto, the Italian words for female and male cats respectively.
I’m also in the middle with the first opinion. I really like Batman and Catwoman, no other woman understands him like she does and no other man understands her like he does. But I’m sick of the constant will they, won’t they bullshit much like Spider-Man and Mary Jane. Give both characters the happiness they deserve. Either have them together as a permanent couple or canonically permanently end the ship. But either way I do agree that she needs more of her own stuff to do and her own stories rather than just showing up in Batman’s stories.
As we speak there is literally a storyline within Catwoman's book where she is given the gift of nine lives done exactly the way as you describe it. Apparently the Spirit of Bastet has taken great interest in her xD
Catwoman is one of my favorite character ever. Every adaptation were good to me because they were all exploiting different Selina’s devotion or situations wise. You can find a very rich Catwoman in the Batman animated serie (with the grey suit). You get her very angry dangerous and fierce in her comic books serie which is AMAZING- but I think we never really got to see the “raw” Catwoman. I feel like we will possibly see it in The Batman 2. Gotham was 7/10 but they were still children and basically I want to see how she really went through bs with villains and getting to rob huge secured bank/museum or whatever. I think like you. Batman & Catwoman are a good match but not for life. Get Catwoman a no match. She deserves to enjoy her built lifestyle and enjoy life with her cats her freedom from men and Batman. She can grief better by herself and get the best version of herself. She always has been alone but she was helping a lot of people or get into situations with people. She need to re-focus on herself that’s how I want her direction to be because that Batman/cat is getting boring even tho their relationship is ICONIC. I really liked the idea of the Gotham sirens and if there’s a possibility where Selina can welcome actual friendship and not business and stabbing. Ivy & Harley as a positive couple could do a lot of good things with Cat and I’m sure they would be happy to help her and get things done right. 🙏🏽 I don’t think there’s an other actual positive team in Gotham that can suits her. But I really feel like she doesn’t like team with these big hero with huge abilities. She’s never into the thing. If they want to explore this “villain lifestyle and likes it” then make her a big villain again. She can run the town with business. Make her build her own lounge or cabaret. If there’s one thing she’s good at is manipulate and taking control of situations. (PS: Sirens running the town for an actual MOMENT is needed. They need to shamble Gotham and change it for good of different.)
I’m both sad & surprised that you didn’t include my opinion on your video….wow But hey, here’s my opinion, I can see Catwoman as a good fit for the Suicide Squad!!
I really like your idea of the 9 lives thing, if she had her own movie for example you could have her die and instead of her coming back from the dead an old version of catwoman appeared so you get to see a multiverse side of things instead of supernaturally it is just a shame they are old 😂
i honestly agree they should commit to wonder woman and batman being together, at first i was against it because i didnt know how it would fit in my mind until i saw the DCAU and the movies. They had natural chemistry that was very hard not to see or ignore and i can tell that she would be able to change him for the better especially since he has some obvious mental problems which im sorry but catwoman would not be able to help with. Also the dynamic with them individually and both their families would be very interesting. it would also put more focus on the lazarus pit as dianas immortal while bruce is mortal. catwoman was always my fav between the 2 and still is to this day however her relationship with bruce is too toxic. Within their relationship shes honestly that toxic ex that you can't forget but you know is very unhealthy wheras diana is the person who might be your opposite however will listen and understand you, show you a different perspective and make you a better person or in bruces case a better man.
Honestly I think that nine lives thing could be interesting. Maybe she was stealing some ancient feline themed artifact and it cursed her with nine lives? Essentially whenever she dies she will regenerate in the condition she was when she was cursed. This may seem like a great advantage at first, but like most powers when you think about them for long enough you realize the downsides: Let’s say she peacefully lives into her 90s before finally dying of natural causes… well, now she’s finally regenerates in her prime, which means she’s now going to live to see all of the friends and family she’s made in that time die off just to live to 90 got again and lose another set of people. So, realizing how much of a curse this actually is, maybe cat woman puts herself in danger more often? Not straight up killing herself but doing more risky heists: if she gets through unscathed she gets the loot. If she doesn’t then that’s one more life off of her curse before she can get back to her standard life. Which on some level this could be seen as evidence that she does value at least some people in her life since she doesn’t want to live long enough to see them all die. Either that or you could take this in a selfish direction and have that cat woman believes “having nine lives makes my job too easy“.
My problem is that depending on the story or writer, DC cannot decide if they want Batman and Catwoman to be together or not. I remember there being some backlash about their marriage which people have simply forgotten about. Either have them be together or not. Personally, I'm of the mindset that they shouldn't be together due to their differing lives and ideologies which is most definitely one of the reasons they got together in the first place, as opposites attract.
Me personally I think they should work towards having Batman be paired if they are gonna have him be in a relationship it should be with Zatanna cause they work well together & have the history & she's one of the few who can get through to him either her or Wonder Woman those have always been the two who I've felt just make sense with him not that Catwoman doesn't either but she's kind of like a completely different character when they pair her with Bruce where with WW we've seen it work incredibly well in the 2 Justice League cartoons & other comics & Zatanna is self explanatory as well.
I think it would be cool if she could somewhat control cats, not outright mind control but the cats understand her and she understands them, and I'm not only talking about normal cats, I'm including tigers, lions, leopards and more
I don't like the Wonderwoman and Batman pairing, it's so picture perfect from a first look. The princess from a good background comes to fix the broken closed off prince. The idea that Wonderwoman is going to resolve all of Batman's issues just sounds horrible. I know the characters have a much complex history than that but still. Yes I get that it's tiring that Catwoman and Batman go round and round, but that's the thing. It kinda mirrors how Batman let's his villains off to a fault, he let's Catwoman slip away from him or he himself distances. Plus the dynamic that they're just 2 regular humans with their own individual baggage and stark differences of right and wrong gives more leeway. For the most part Wonderwoman and Batman are on the same side, they might have different views on handling crime but still at the end of the day they align.
I’m kind of 50-50 on the whole Batman/Catwoman dynamic. As much as I love Batman and wonder woman, I do think Bruce X Selena is the ideal relationship for them... at least in concept. The problem is due to the status quo neither of them are able to grow enough to be the person the other needs: Batman struggles to let people get close and Selena struggles to put others before herself. If they could both overcome this flaw or at the very least learn how to regulate it, they would be perfect for each other. But instead we just have to deal with this “will they won’t be“ thing forever which just becomes tiresome. In stories where they are allowed to grow, they are the best couple in DC. But since they are restricted by the status quo I would honestly rather see Bruce get with someone like Diana since they play off each other well and don’t have to deal with all of this pointless drama
Catwoman confuses me whenever she works with villains. Tell me what villain with half a brain would let Cateoman anywhere near their plan when everyone knows she's Batman's side piece? Even if she's not actively spying for him, what's stopping her from calling her Bat boytoy the second something doesn't go her way? She shouldn't have any real bad guy connections when it's known she runs under a hero's cape.
I would love it if they brought back Selina protecting East Gotham and maybe make her own Cat Family because since there are 2 Catgirls Like you said Holly Robinson (who I just found out about) and Katrina Falcone. Imagine a run where we have all 3 of them protecting East Gotham and maybe even taking in Great White Shark (since iirc he has beef with Selina).
I loved Catwoman from The Batman, Zoe did an incredible job and I want more of her in those movies. She was great as Selina and Catwoman. Sexy when she needed to be and a kick-ass fighter when she had to get her paws dirty.
The Halle Berry Catwoman movie gave her literal Nine-Lives powers then retconned that ability set into the Michelle Pfeiffer Catwoman (whose references to "nine lives" I never took as literal, only metaphorical. And to the replies that will expectedly say "BUT SHE TOTALLY HAD POWERS! THE CATS REVIVED HER IN A SUPERNATURAL MANNER, AND SHE SHOULD HAVE DIED SEVERAL TIMES SUCH AS THE FALL AND GUNSHOTS. AFTER HER RESSURECTION SHE SHE INEXPLICABLY BECAME AN ACROBAT AND BECAME A MASTER FIGHTER!" I always took the cat revival to be an exaggerated theatrical display of expressionism that Burton is very fond of. And it's a movie, so people survive and walk away from injuries that would probably kill or cripple in reality. (Nolan's Batman gliding at those speeds would never survive those landings let alone tackling someone with those glides. Arkhamverse Batman should be a metahuman.) I've noticed the same people who argued that Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman had powers (before the Halle Berry movie) also typically argue that the Phantasm can actually teleport when she activates smoke.
Interesting. I haven't been keeping up with the current run but I was thinking about getting DC Infinite to keep up with some current stuff. Cause I would have never known.
I find Batman and Wonder Woman to be such a weird couple why would Diana wanna be with Bruce and honestly why would Bruce wanna be with Diana, Superman and Wonder Woman is cool but even then that relationship shouldn’t last very long when it happens.
all right hears my hot take i don't think theirs anything wrong with what she dos by witch i mean stealing jewelry, Cash and other expensive items from rich assholes she's not hurting anybody {apart from some unconscious but overwise unharmed security guards} and the people she is stealing from can easily afford it her crimes are harmless and i think that disqualifies her from being a villain and i think Jason Todd wood agree with me
For me, Selena is the girl you get with to experiment. But when you realise she’s never going to change and is just great for the moment. Bruce realises that he can’t grow if he’s with her. And that’s when Diana, the more mature woman comes in who can help Bruce mature and heal into the dad he is. And has never fully realised.
Those comments on Batman needing to save Catwoman or trying to make her a better woman are so tired and lowkey misogynistic even in the comics, she’s never been a straight up villian anyway maybe when she was first introduced but I’d argue against that even then.
@@tyrellmultimedia who the hell even is sam bradley anyway , ive been looking through the internet trying to research this mess because he got catwomen pregnant in that continuity... completely ruin the bat and the cat thing for me ....
It’s just the DC writers and editors that get in the way of their relationship because they want to maintain the status quo. The Earth-2 story perfectly describes why Bruce and Selina deserve to be together. Also they’re both furries. I like Batman and Wonder Woman more as very good friends
Catwoman is my favourite pairing for Batman. I never liked Batmans relationship with Wonder Woman. Catwoman understands Batman in a way that no one else does. I’d rather them have relationship troubles than no issues at all like Batman and Wonder Woman do. I hope Bruce and Selina get together in The Batman universe. I think the Tom King Batman run was great up until the part where Selina walks out on Bruce. That doesn’t feel like something she would do and it is a very unsatisfying end to their relationship.
Tbh my unpopular opinion is just I hate the purple suit and I enjoy the more dominatrix-esque black suit. I enjoy a catwoman personally who isn’t rich, so so the more street-look appeals the me.
I prefer an anti-hero catwoman with a cynical mindset shaped by growing up on the street, not trusting those in power and the rich/elites)
I enjoy when she struggles between her own self-interest and doing the right thing, with the altruism winning out in the end.
I think if cat-woman ever has a more permanent protégé or side-kick they should be called Kitten. I think it would be cute and, of course, they could always get a new persona once they age up, like how Dick went from boy wonder to Nightwing.
What would the age up title be? I can’t think of one. Obviously it’d have to be cat related but not Catwoman and not Tigress because she’s already an entirely different character.
@@Evoker23-lx8mb Could go with a few things depending on the gender. Puma, Lion, Jungle King, Fang, Tom Cat. Start adding colors and we got a few more variations. I think it could work.
@@icesoul17z or even sticking with Selina’s Italian background (in certain versions where Carmine Falcone is her father) could go with Gatta or Gatto, the Italian words for female and male cats respectively.
I’m also in the middle with the first opinion. I really like Batman and Catwoman, no other woman understands him like she does and no other man understands her like he does. But I’m sick of the constant will they, won’t they bullshit much like Spider-Man and Mary Jane. Give both characters the happiness they deserve. Either have them together as a permanent couple or canonically permanently end the ship. But either way I do agree that she needs more of her own stuff to do and her own stories rather than just showing up in Batman’s stories.
I feel like Catwoman is one of the top three most iconic Batman villains.
As we speak there is literally a storyline within Catwoman's book where she is given the gift of nine lives done exactly the way as you describe it. Apparently the Spirit of Bastet has taken great interest in her xD
Catwoman is one of my favorite character ever. Every adaptation were good to me because they were all exploiting different Selina’s devotion or situations wise. You can find a very rich Catwoman in the Batman animated serie (with the grey suit). You get her very angry dangerous and fierce in her comic books serie which is AMAZING- but I think we never really got to see the “raw” Catwoman. I feel like we will possibly see it in The Batman 2. Gotham was 7/10 but they were still children and basically I want to see how she really went through bs with villains and getting to rob huge secured bank/museum or whatever. I think like you. Batman & Catwoman are a good match but not for life. Get Catwoman a no match. She deserves to enjoy her built lifestyle and enjoy life with her cats her freedom from men and Batman. She can grief better by herself and get the best version of herself. She always has been alone but she was helping a lot of people or get into situations with people. She need to re-focus on herself that’s how I want her direction to be because that Batman/cat is getting boring even tho their relationship is ICONIC. I really liked the idea of the Gotham sirens and if there’s a possibility where Selina can welcome actual friendship and not business and stabbing. Ivy & Harley as a positive couple could do a lot of good things with Cat and I’m sure they would be happy to help her and get things done right. 🙏🏽
I don’t think there’s an other actual positive team in Gotham that can suits her. But I really feel like she doesn’t like team with these big hero with huge abilities. She’s never into the thing.
If they want to explore this “villain lifestyle and likes it” then make her a big villain again. She can run the town with business. Make her build her own lounge or cabaret. If there’s one thing she’s good at is manipulate and taking control of situations.
(PS: Sirens running the town for an actual MOMENT is needed. They need to shamble Gotham and change it for good of different.)
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I’m both sad & surprised that you didn’t include my opinion on your video….wow
But hey, here’s my opinion, I can see Catwoman as a good fit for the Suicide Squad!!
I really like your idea of the 9 lives thing, if she had her own movie for example you could have her die and instead of her coming back from the dead an old version of catwoman appeared so you get to see a multiverse side of things instead of supernaturally it is just a shame they are old 😂
i honestly agree they should commit to wonder woman and batman being together, at first i was against it because i didnt know how it would fit in my mind until i saw the DCAU and the movies. They had natural chemistry that was very hard not to see or ignore and i can tell that she would be able to change him for the better especially since he has some obvious mental problems which im sorry but catwoman would not be able to help with. Also the dynamic with them individually and both their families would be very interesting. it would also put more focus on the lazarus pit as dianas immortal while bruce is mortal.
catwoman was always my fav between the 2 and still is to this day however her relationship with bruce is too toxic. Within their relationship shes honestly that toxic ex that you can't forget but you know is very unhealthy wheras diana is the person who might be your opposite however will listen and understand you, show you a different perspective and make you a better person or in bruces case a better man.
Catwoman's supernatural power could come from her egytian origin from hale barry movie.
Thanks.
Honestly I think that nine lives thing could be interesting.
Maybe she was stealing some ancient feline themed artifact and it cursed her with nine lives?
Essentially whenever she dies she will regenerate in the condition she was when she was cursed. This may seem like a great advantage at first, but like most powers when you think about them for long enough you realize the downsides:
Let’s say she peacefully lives into her 90s before finally dying of natural causes… well, now she’s finally regenerates in her prime, which means she’s now going to live to see all of the friends and family she’s made in that time die off just to live to 90 got again and lose another set of people.
So, realizing how much of a curse this actually is, maybe cat woman puts herself in danger more often? Not straight up killing herself but doing more risky heists: if she gets through unscathed she gets the loot. If she doesn’t then that’s one more life off of her curse before she can get back to her standard life.
Which on some level this could be seen as evidence that she does value at least some people in her life since she doesn’t want to live long enough to see them all die. Either that or you could take this in a selfish direction and have that cat woman believes “having nine lives makes my job too easy“.
I wish her dad played a bigger role. Or at least we find out more about her past.
My problem is that depending on the story or writer, DC cannot decide if they want Batman and Catwoman to be together or not. I remember there being some backlash about their marriage which people have simply forgotten about. Either have them be together or not. Personally, I'm of the mindset that they shouldn't be together due to their differing lives and ideologies which is most definitely one of the reasons they got together in the first place, as opposites attract.
The 04 Catwoman brought the goods
Me personally I think they should work towards having Batman be paired if they are gonna have him be in a relationship it should be with Zatanna cause they work well together & have the history & she's one of the few who can get through to him either her or Wonder Woman those have always been the two who I've felt just make sense with him not that Catwoman doesn't either but she's kind of like a completely different character when they pair her with Bruce where with WW we've seen it work incredibly well in the 2 Justice League cartoons & other comics & Zatanna is self explanatory as well.
I think it would be cool if she could somewhat control cats, not outright mind control but the cats understand her and she understands them, and I'm not only talking about normal cats, I'm including tigers, lions, leopards and more
I don't like the Wonderwoman and Batman pairing, it's so picture perfect from a first look. The princess from a good background comes to fix the broken closed off prince. The idea that Wonderwoman is going to resolve all of Batman's issues just sounds horrible. I know the characters have a much complex history than that but still.
Yes I get that it's tiring that Catwoman and Batman go round and round, but that's the thing. It kinda mirrors how Batman let's his villains off to a fault, he let's Catwoman slip away from him or he himself distances. Plus the dynamic that they're just 2 regular humans with their own individual baggage and stark differences of right and wrong gives more leeway. For the most part Wonderwoman and Batman are on the same side, they might have different views on handling crime but still at the end of the day they align.
100% better than catwomen and sam bradley lol
The writers see what marvel does with Peter and Mary Jane, and think that’s what Batman and Catwoman need to be
I’m kind of 50-50 on the whole Batman/Catwoman dynamic.
As much as I love Batman and wonder woman, I do think Bruce X Selena is the ideal relationship for them... at least in concept. The problem is due to the status quo neither of them are able to grow enough to be the person the other needs:
Batman struggles to let people get close and Selena struggles to put others before herself. If they could both overcome this flaw or at the very least learn how to regulate it, they would be perfect for each other. But instead we just have to deal with this “will they won’t be“ thing forever which just becomes tiresome.
In stories where they are allowed to grow, they are the best couple in DC. But since they are restricted by the status quo I would honestly rather see Bruce get with someone like Diana since they play off each other well and don’t have to deal with all of this pointless drama
Wat do u think of catwomen and sam bradley
Catwoman confuses me whenever she works with villains. Tell me what villain with half a brain would let Cateoman anywhere near their plan when everyone knows she's Batman's side piece?
Even if she's not actively spying for him, what's stopping her from calling her Bat boytoy the second something doesn't go her way?
She shouldn't have any real bad guy connections when it's known she runs under a hero's cape.
I would love it if they brought back Selina protecting East Gotham and maybe make her own Cat Family because since there are 2 Catgirls Like you said Holly Robinson (who I just found out about) and Katrina Falcone. Imagine a run where we have all 3 of them protecting East Gotham and maybe even taking in Great White Shark (since iirc he has beef with Selina).
I loved Catwoman from The Batman, Zoe did an incredible job and I want more of her in those movies. She was great as Selina and Catwoman. Sexy when she needed to be and a kick-ass fighter when she had to get her paws dirty.
The Halle Berry Catwoman movie gave her literal Nine-Lives powers then retconned that ability set into the Michelle Pfeiffer Catwoman (whose references to "nine lives" I never took as literal, only metaphorical. And to the replies that will expectedly say "BUT SHE TOTALLY HAD POWERS! THE CATS REVIVED HER IN A SUPERNATURAL MANNER, AND SHE SHOULD HAVE DIED SEVERAL TIMES SUCH AS THE FALL AND GUNSHOTS. AFTER HER RESSURECTION SHE SHE INEXPLICABLY BECAME AN ACROBAT AND BECAME A MASTER FIGHTER!"
I always took the cat revival to be an exaggerated theatrical display of expressionism that Burton is very fond of. And it's a movie, so people survive and walk away from injuries that would probably kill or cripple in reality. (Nolan's Batman gliding at those speeds would never survive those landings let alone tackling someone with those glides. Arkhamverse Batman should be a metahuman.)
I've noticed the same people who argued that Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman had powers (before the Halle Berry movie) also typically argue that the Phantasm can actually teleport when she activates smoke.
In the current catwoman run they actually gave her 9 lives
Interesting. I haven't been keeping up with the current run but I was thinking about getting DC Infinite to keep up with some current stuff. Cause I would have never known.
9:02 dc’s universe is realistic, and in real life there’s not good and bad people, there’s just people
Ya... realism and comic books, they don't go hand in hand. And there are good people and bad people. They're called heroes and villains.
@@tyrellmultimediathere’s no heroes and villains in real life, how old are you💀
edit: also superhero comic books aren’t the only ones that exist lol
I find Batman and Wonder Woman to be such a weird couple why would Diana wanna be with Bruce and honestly why would Bruce wanna be with Diana, Superman and Wonder Woman is cool but even then that relationship shouldn’t last very long when it happens.
They should just have Batman be in a relationship with someone in the Jl or someone like an ivy or someone
I am sick of this Catwoman Long Halloween slander.
all right
hears my hot take
i don't think theirs anything wrong with what she dos
by witch i mean stealing jewelry, Cash and other expensive items
from rich assholes
she's not hurting anybody {apart from some unconscious but overwise unharmed security guards}
and the people she is stealing from can easily afford it
her crimes are harmless
and i think that disqualifies her from being a villain
and i think Jason Todd wood agree with me
For me, Selena is the girl you get with to experiment. But when you realise she’s never going to change and is just great for the moment. Bruce realises that he can’t grow if he’s with her.
And that’s when Diana, the more mature woman comes in who can help Bruce mature and heal into the dad he is. And has never fully realised.
My unpopular opinion/hot take: I hate catwoman. She's boring, I don't care for her character, I prefer it when she isn't included in a story.
Those comments on Batman needing to save Catwoman or trying to make her a better woman are so tired and lowkey misogynistic even in the comics, she’s never been a straight up villian anyway maybe when she was first introduced but I’d argue against that even then.
Ewwww it’s so boring how everyone hates on Batman’s one true love which is Catwoman. They’re literally the same person honestly.
"Batman's one true love". Weird because they never truly commit to one another.
@@tyrellmultimedialook at crap they pulled with catwomen and some bum named sam bradley its like Mary jane and that guy named steve with two kids lol
@@tyrellmultimedia who the hell even is sam bradley anyway , ive been looking through the internet trying to research this mess because he got catwomen pregnant in that continuity... completely ruin the bat and the cat thing for me ....
Vicky vale and Talia is way better love interest than catwoman
Vicki Vale, that’s fine but NOT Talia. She literally raped him, Damian was conceived after Talia drugged and raped Bruce.
It’s just the DC writers and editors that get in the way of their relationship because they want to maintain the status quo. The Earth-2 story perfectly describes why Bruce and Selina deserve to be together. Also they’re both furries. I like Batman and Wonder Woman more as very good friends
Catwoman is my favourite pairing for Batman. I never liked Batmans relationship with Wonder Woman. Catwoman understands Batman in a way that no one else does. I’d rather them have relationship troubles than no issues at all like Batman and Wonder Woman do. I hope Bruce and Selina get together in The Batman universe. I think the Tom King Batman run was great up until the part where Selina walks out on Bruce. That doesn’t feel like something she would do and it is a very unsatisfying end to their relationship.