Justice: What's The Right Thing To Do? Episode 04: "THIS LAND IS MY LAND"

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  • Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
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    PART ONE: THIS LAND IS MY LAND
    The philosopher John Locke believes that individuals have certain rights so fundamental that no government can ever take them away. These rights-to life, liberty and property-were given to us as human beings in the the state of nature, a time before government and laws were created. According to Locke, our natural rights are governed by the law of nature, known by reason, which says that we can neither give them up nor take them away from anyone else. Sandel wraps up the lecture by raising a question: what happens to our natural rights once we enter society and consent to a system of laws?
    PART TWO: CONSENTING ADULTS
    If we all have unalienable rights to life, liberty, and property, how can a government enforce tax laws passed by the representatives of a mere majority? Doesnt that amount to taking some peoples property without their consent? Lockes response is that we give our tacit consent to obey the tax laws passed by a majority when we choose to live in a society. Therefore, taxation is legitimate and compatible with individual rights, as long as it applies to everyone and does not arbitrarily single anyone out.

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  • @HEMANTRAJYADAV
    @HEMANTRAJYADAV 3 роки тому +444

    At this point, I've started to recognize most of the faces

  • @aissatoufanny5622
    @aissatoufanny5622 4 роки тому +1971

    me, a high school student, in 2020, during quarantine, binge watching these like I would a Netflix series

    • @abhilashtyagi1997
      @abhilashtyagi1997 4 роки тому +20

      same

    • @Rahul-op2vc
      @Rahul-op2vc 4 роки тому +34

      same bro from india

    • @devanferguson9872
      @devanferguson9872 4 роки тому +27

      Same!! Binge watching something like this at 3am gives me the same satisfaction as binge watching JRE podcasts with scientists haha

    • @dilshaniwijayawardana950
      @dilshaniwijayawardana950 4 роки тому +18

      Me toooooo I’m watching this for debating. From Sri Lanka

    • @565ChAr
      @565ChAr 4 роки тому +11

      Same binge watching these so that they can help me when I apply to university at the end of this year. I need that knowledge if I want to stand a chance at getting into Oxford.

  • @santhoshnamballa
    @santhoshnamballa 7 років тому +1331

    Best thing about these lectures is that he never takes sides. He has been neutral all the way and made students make their own claims. Interesting.

    • @rogerpattube
      @rogerpattube 6 років тому +10

      He's not neutral but incredibly left wing. Otherwise he would point out the blindingly obvious benefits that following Locke's ideas has brought for the nation as a whole, as compared with other systems of property historically. Either left wing or a complete idiot, and presumably being a lecturer at Harvard not the latter.

    • @dannedifyoudo
      @dannedifyoudo 5 років тому +74

      Lol....look who's biased, now?

    • @bjorsam6979
      @bjorsam6979 5 років тому +38

      @@rogerpattube except all nations follow just about the same rules when it comes to property and such because of economic necessity. Then there are nuances. Like for example if you compare USA to Scandinavia:
      Guess which place offers better education, health, life expectancy and general reported life satisfaction as well as less crime, incarceration, teenage pregnancy, bad health (WHODAS) and murder? Because the nordic countries don't go all in Locke.

    • @xuchen8798
      @xuchen8798 5 років тому +5

      @@rogerpattube When did the USA government follow Locke's ideas? Anything prior to the 1964 civil rights act is problematic...

    • @arnav257
      @arnav257 4 роки тому +67

      @@rogerpattube So, just to clarify what you're saying: He's not neutral because he didn't broadcast the benefits of ONE idea over any others (id est, he was carefully neutral)?
      By that token, he's not neutral because he was neutral. Sounds to me like you're indoctrinated against the so-called 'leftists' you're generalising all of Harvard to be.
      You have some serious thinking to do.

  • @susanjones4904
    @susanjones4904 3 роки тому +424

    This shows how necessary a lecture hall is instead of virtual education. The dialogue and input and interactive connections are part of the learning process. An excellent teacher must be experienced. We are social creatures and our physical connections are being virtually constrained by Covid.

    • @susanjones4904
      @susanjones4904 2 роки тому +2

      @@onlyabudi That's a very small minority, judging by the full to capacity lecture hall.

    • @scottheid9936
      @scottheid9936 2 роки тому +4

      Everything societal has a dual responsibility. Which is preceded by having freedom of CHOICE . 90% of the world doesn’t have this luxury .

    • @jordansteinohrt
      @jordansteinohrt 2 роки тому +11

      Why couldnt you just pick out random student via zoom to do the same thing? Virtual education is fine.

    • @Angelen
      @Angelen 2 роки тому +1

      This shows that in a Harvard study hall in 2009, when filmed, students who can critically articulate themselves stood up and iterate their very diverse arguments when offered the opportunity. Such lecture dynamic has yet been replicated to par in other live lecture halls in my decade and a lustrum of post-secondary, post-graduate experience.... nevertheless, I do prefer what you're trying to advocate.

    • @davidhancock1677
      @davidhancock1677 2 роки тому

      @@susanjones4904 no I’m iujuuupiuyiioo up opiuuU see ooo we ssiiiisis

  • @matthewmurdoch6932
    @matthewmurdoch6932 5 років тому +440

    Congratulations to an excellent professor for expertly guiding a room not just to memorize but to think and articulate themselves.

  • @kamalkamal0123
    @kamalkamal0123 2 роки тому +139

    00:44 - John Locke Analogy of natural rights - life, liberty and property
    12:41 - Right to property - our labor can take something unowned and convert it to private property -
    example of drug patent - IPR - dispute over cheap AIDS drug
    21:13 - Locke says - There is right to property which arise even before the existence of state itself but it is subjected to the provision that there is enough as much and as good, left for others on earth
    26:06 - Locke's theory on Legitimate government
    33:03 - Consent role in society by John Locke - Collective Consent
    45:55 - Locke's view of natural right is that they are unalienable to the extent that they are not ours to give them up. that's what creates the legitimate govt. Its not what we consent to - limits govt. But it is our lack of power to give away our natural rights.
    then the question arises that if we don't have that powers then how can we give consent to limit our natural rights to society/state.
    49:24 - Locke is against arbitrary govt, he is against arbitrary taking. But if there is general law such that the government's choice is non arbitrary, it doesn't really amount to violation of peoples rights.

    • @williamtrowsdale4523
      @williamtrowsdale4523 2 роки тому

      thank you💙

    • @Mr.Jasaw13
      @Mr.Jasaw13 2 роки тому

      thanks

    • @charuchadhasapnaandparivar7508
      @charuchadhasapnaandparivar7508 Рік тому +2

      american companies also tried to patent haldi or turmeric which has been used since ages in india as a household medicine...one sided rules of patent are being made to justify profit

  • @zi784
    @zi784 3 роки тому +44

    '.. I think this is the answer Locke would give '
    That's the best compliment I've ever heard Gogol.

    • @yashjain9753
      @yashjain9753 2 роки тому +1

      Gokul ! He's an indian descendant thinks so!

  • @theRiver_joan
    @theRiver_joan 11 років тому +297

    i should be doing homework for classes im actually enrolled in... instead i cant stop watching these.

    • @c0mf0rta61ynum6
      @c0mf0rta61ynum6 4 роки тому +6

      Ironically, I actually have to watch these for a Ethics in Criminal Justice class I'm enrolled in.

    • @cyberblock7619
      @cyberblock7619 3 роки тому +4

      @@c0mf0rta61ynum6 want a cookie

    • @c0mf0rta61ynum6
      @c0mf0rta61ynum6 3 роки тому +12

      @@cyberblock7619 Well, since you asked, sure, I guess. My favorite is White Chocolate Chip Macadamia.

    • @kanhaiya1825
      @kanhaiya1825 3 роки тому +2

      Physics vs philosophy
      My life in a nutshell

    • @1XclusiveFBA
      @1XclusiveFBA 2 роки тому +1

      What is life!

  • @chiranjitsamanta16
    @chiranjitsamanta16 3 роки тому +67

    These lectures are actual gems of UA-cam

  • @fixdeluxe1
    @fixdeluxe1 9 років тому +338

    Thank you Harvard for uploading these resources! Incredibly insightful and enlightening. General information and context is provided, with discussion and debate on the key ideas. Locke's concepts of life, liberty and property are the fairest and most equitable forms of freedom in the modern world.

    • @jstout333
      @jstout333 9 років тому +1

      Hell no. Libertarianism is a far superior way of thinking, this lecture supports this fully.

    • @fixdeluxe1
      @fixdeluxe1 9 років тому +5

      Are you kidding? I just supported Locke's concepts of "life, liberty and property"? Read the comment before your respond.

    • @jstout333
      @jstout333 9 років тому +1

      ***** Hey Ryan, enjoy making the same mistake the last two generations of Americans did, ignoring the Libertarians who will remain right throughout the years of your ignorance and others despite baseless criticism.

    • @jstout333
      @jstout333 9 років тому

      ***** Really. The party who hasn't won an election. The party resisting the two party monopoly that formed after the civil war and we are the ones supporting what the last two generations have been doing?
      I can't even comprehend the irrational thoughts you're having, this is a pointless debate if this is your state of mind.

    • @jstout333
      @jstout333 9 років тому

      ***** Random and unfounded claims about libertarian ideas once again, surprise surprise. Liberalization of markets.. how is this what we have today? Last I checked Monopolies have unchecked power and unending reigns today, something Libertarian ideals actually shuts down unlike republican or democrat ideals that serve to promote their own monopolies and shut down their competitors. Libertarians provides a free market while disbanding any monopolies to ensure a free market just like the founding fathers, :O. big shocker our ideals match the founders again, unlike your two treasonous parties). Destroy liberty? Perverse effect? We're the libertarian party, fighting for the rights of the people and the restoration of the people's wealth instead of banks owning our asses. How can you again claim such ignorant views so unfounded that it crosses the line of comedy? Ignorance must be bliss, it must be.

  • @evracer
    @evracer 8 років тому +121

    Seeing the number of views on this excellent series in some minor way helps me have hope for the human race.

    • @savchil
      @savchil 2 роки тому +6

      We all desire to be better humans! We are simply prone to doing whatever is easiest (makes sense... less energy expenditure) and in the complex social structures we have now that provide the resources we need for survival with little to no effort on our part (at least mentally), the incentive to learn and become better in this way has dramatically decreased. Humans, however, still have an intense innate desire to obtain knowledge as this is how our species has survived and thrived for so long. We just need to, now that knowledge is not necessarily essential to surivival, find ways to make learning easier on ourselves and, more importantly, easier than the alternative option (ignorance and becoming worse humans). These videos help! We can get our fix of visual and auditory stimuli and obtain a decent amount of useful knowledge in the process!

  • @ebrimasaine8795
    @ebrimasaine8795 7 років тому +133

    I keep in a dream, that have never sat in a class. Frankly I envy the students in that room. Sandel has successfully made me realize my worth as a social being. I wish I could enroll into Harvard!

    • @anacletobermudez6679
      @anacletobermudez6679 7 років тому +7

      You don't need to become "A Harvard's man" to reach the pinnacle of your worth as social being. But if your idea of this "pinnacle" is of landing a job in a great Corporation then don't waste your time and enroll right away.

    • @ebrimasaine8795
      @ebrimasaine8795 7 років тому +13

      i didn't say i won't reach the pinnacle of my worth if i do not enroll into Harvard, i said sadel has made me realise it, and that i envy the harvards not because of Harvard but because of being present in the justice class having the opportunity to contribute during the lectures

    • @manthony777
      @manthony777 6 років тому +1

      Ebrima, This is typical in most university settings. However, when I attended college, we had smaller numbers of students. The Profs were able to learn the names of each student. I never took a class with 200 students. I think that's too many.

    • @cyberblock7619
      @cyberblock7619 3 роки тому +5

      @@manthony777 You wont get this level of expertise in most colleges

    • @suffragettesoul2687
      @suffragettesoul2687 5 місяців тому

      Some of those who sit in the crowd of these extraordinary classes become the lawyers who chase the legal loopholes or estimate the cost of being caught by those who can afford more than the $90/day to stay for some years in an upgraded room.

  • @user-sz7tk6zu6z
    @user-sz7tk6zu6z 2 роки тому +48

    I thank my dad for introducing a 13 year old me to Justice. It has really helped me expand my thinking of the world in general.

    • @gulcincan989
      @gulcincan989 2 роки тому

      M6uuxj😄😄 9

    • @ExploreLifeBaby
      @ExploreLifeBaby 8 місяців тому

      thats interesting, were you able to understand it at such a young age?

    • @Clain-Metzger
      @Clain-Metzger 7 місяців тому

      @@ExploreLifeBabywell, to be honest, I’m high school student also, but my dad definite justice and equality what I was young

    • @Clain-Metzger
      @Clain-Metzger 7 місяців тому

      @@ExploreLifeBabyI reckon that’s no matter of ago, only perspective and educational levels or quality

  • @priyasehgal3557
    @priyasehgal3557 7 років тому +132

    stupendous ,no mean a wonder that Harvard university is one of the best universities on the Globe. It encourages such a healthy level of debate.

    • @andylam2372
      @andylam2372 4 роки тому +1

      You're comment gave me cancer

    • @anders8327
      @anders8327 4 роки тому +23

      @@andylam2372 "You're"??? Dude, your stupidity gave me cancer.

    • @cadkls
      @cadkls 3 роки тому +8

      @@andylam2372 Her name suggests english is not her native language, i can forgive poorer english on those grounds.
      Her english wasn't perfect but it's more than understandable.
      Your english however, if you are a native there is no excuse.

    • @heliiminum
      @heliiminum 3 роки тому

      @@anders8327 Good point dude.

    • @joshingtonbarthsworth631
      @joshingtonbarthsworth631 2 роки тому +5

      This isn't necessarily a Harvard thing. This is how philosophy classes work.

  • @19EHF
    @19EHF 10 років тому +553

    Yes lets go online and watch a Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford, etc, lecture and just pretend for 55 minutes that we too are Ivy Leaguers

    • @mayattv4986
      @mayattv4986 4 роки тому +55

      Oh my God, look at how far we've become. I'm a freshmen from a third world country. These Ivy League videos are super refreshing lol. In my country they lecture as if we're middleschoolers

    • @kristybarnes2563
      @kristybarnes2563 4 роки тому +6

      You're still receiving the benefit! Whatta bonehead!

    • @zacharychandler8399
      @zacharychandler8399 3 роки тому +15

      @@kristybarnes2563 I don't think it was a negative thing to say. Beyond simple prestige there's something compelling about this large room in the video, the active discussion, and the gifted orator offering a critical insight into ethics. I concede that it can be read in a negative fashion, but also a positive one.

    • @anonymous_channel
      @anonymous_channel 3 роки тому

      Haha

    • @kristybarnes2563
      @kristybarnes2563 3 роки тому

      @@zacharychandler8399 I took it as ungrateful. Honestly, where's the prestige in taped lectures?

  • @becky7468
    @becky7468 2 місяці тому +1

    2024 and this is great. Second time watching.

  • @normstan9521
    @normstan9521 Рік тому +8

    Thank you Harvard for having these on UA-cam!! This professor is incredible!! I wish all professors were like this. He challenges how and the way we think... and is very respectful of others viewpoints This man is gold !!!11

  • @wilsonlomotey1167
    @wilsonlomotey1167 3 роки тому +25

    I would never have missed class if this was my lecturer

  • @welearntogether7110
    @welearntogether7110 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you so so so much for having made these lectures publicly available!!!!! Fantastic professor., amazing way of teaching and also a great audience :)

  • @kierachia3650
    @kierachia3650 6 місяців тому +2

    My fav proff of all time. He always tries to remain neutral, clarifies and helps students put their ideas into words and provide various ideas and texts with in depth explanation. I wish all professors were like this! Would make learning such a joy!! (also, hes funnyyy)

  • @steveloewen8270
    @steveloewen8270 2 роки тому +4

    A Professor so in Command of the Subject he’s confident in riffing the entire lecture with his students providing the arguments….brilliant!!

    • @dianahill5116
      @dianahill5116 2 роки тому

      He says nothing about embezlement.

  • @THESHOMROM
    @THESHOMROM 5 років тому +36

    I love this professor and wish he had been around when I went to Uni. It is an extreme privelege to be able to share these students experience of learning from this great teacher. I would have given him a standing ovation after every lecture.

    • @mustafamohammed9317
      @mustafamohammed9317 3 роки тому

      ONLY TO YOUR MASTERS

    • @jonathanman8299
      @jonathanman8299 Рік тому

      @@mustafamohammed9317 not all teacher are master it depends on their quality are they really pro or not

  • @hihihidddd
    @hihihidddd 12 років тому +19

    I think my History teacher was inspired by this guy. He teaches the exact same way. I feel as if I was in tenth grade World History again whenever I watch these. That, plus our teacher showed us the first talk when we were learning about utilitarianism.

  • @user-zx9eg2fg5c
    @user-zx9eg2fg5c 8 місяців тому +2

    I would never have missed class if this was my lecturer. The whole justice series is amazing!! .

  • @shubh_2733
    @shubh_2733 2 роки тому +9

    Michael is one of the most intellectual person of our times ✨
    Loved his way of teaching philosophy so much 🌠

  • @davidhansmapa3119
    @davidhansmapa3119 2 роки тому +5

    Just youtube recommending me this video after 12 years. But I find this very informative, and insightful. Loved that all students were listening and tried to raise their opinions. Loved also Sandel's way of teaching.

  • @ThomasAlbright-en7uz
    @ThomasAlbright-en7uz 2 місяці тому +1

    I have watched this series at least four times over the years, and I have learned new things each time. Watching it makes me feel young and like I was back in college and grad school majoring in cultural anthropology, as opposed to being old and retired as I am now. I have meant to make this comment many times before now, and finally, watching it yet again now in 2024, I can no longer not speak up. Dr. Sandel makes an incorrect statement/assumption in episode 4 "This Land is My Land," the subject of which is mainly John Locke's ideology. Dr. Sandel states that Native Americans were hunters and gatherers hence didn't have fenced land boundaries, whereas in fact, several Native American nations did have large, complex well-bounded cities not unlike other large cities around the world throughout history. The Aztecs, Mayans, and Incans are but a few Native American examples of this. Also, numerous Native American societies practiced agriculture, growing corn, potatoes, squash, and grapes to name just a few. Perhaps their cornfields didn't have European-style "fences" such as stone and wooden walls, but they were indeed bounded. To regard real or virtual "lines in the sand" as not to be "fencing" would be ethnocentric. If Dr. Sandel had realized this, I think he could have argued that according to Locke, the seizure of Native American land by the colonialists was outright theft and not the right thing to do (and the cocky Libertarians couldn't have explained it away). All colonialism around the entire world has been guilty of the same kind of theft justified by ethnocentrism. It is no wonder that we are still paying for these wrongs, the price of which being continuous war and conflict. "The sins of the fathers shall be visited upon the sons."

  • @deepalimbu6496
    @deepalimbu6496 Рік тому +3

    I discovered the lecture 04/23 after 13 years of being uploaded. This is a very fascinating and interesting topic I have ever came across. Thank you!

  • @deanna5687
    @deanna5687 4 роки тому +4

    So much respect and humanity in these words.

  • @deprogramr
    @deprogramr 3 роки тому +6

    Sandel is a treasure, I'm happy to share a time period with this dude...

  • @harveerbrar6298
    @harveerbrar6298 3 роки тому

    I m thankful to great efforts of HARWARD
    to provide such a easy asses to such great lectures.

  • @lizgichora6472
    @lizgichora6472 5 років тому +8

    On Consent and it's fundamentals, quite an interesting discussion. Thank you!

  • @JonhhWik
    @JonhhWik 6 років тому +23

    I was hoping someone in the class was going to state/ notice the connection I saw between the enforcement of laws and taxation, but no one did so here is the connection I noticed.
    An interesting and valid argument was made by Locke for law enforced by government, and not by the individual victim. The argument states the victim would preferentially weight the crime as worse when inflicted upon himself vs upon another. This leading to severe punishments like death and the taking of life when it is not necessarily justified. Therefore the punisher could be also violating the offenders right to life. I think this idea also is applicable to enforcing taxation of those who voted against that specific taxation because an individual will preferentially be biased , even in extreme cases, to vote for a tax that benefits themselves and and against a tax that will not benefit them. This makes a great case that enforced taxation is not a violation or theft of ones unalienable right to property. Because a person may preferentially, to an extreme even, vote for taxation strictly to benefit ones self even when the outcome will harm the majority or encroach upon others unalienable rights. Therefore if one has consented to be apart of society under a government then the decision of taxation must be left up to the majority which ultimately decides what is considered a persons property and what is not i.e. taxes owed. Because the majority will unbiasedly choose the definition of property at a preferentially unbiased level selecting for the best definition of property.
    Does anyone have an opinion on this or any reasons why my idea is inaccurate?

    • @patricklayman2780
      @patricklayman2780 3 роки тому

      Who is still watching in 2019?

    • @scarlett4484
      @scarlett4484 3 роки тому +1

      @@patricklayman2780 How about 2021? 😁

    • @sheilabright2091
      @sheilabright2091 3 роки тому

      @@scarlett4484 👋

    • @ancientbriton7295
      @ancientbriton7295 23 дні тому

      I do favour a 'social contract' approach to understanding the relationships between rights in society/societies but I have to give way to some degree on an individual's inability to actually opt out of the society they are born into/brought up in. Bill Gates could go somewhere else if he didn't like US tax rules, but in practice many other people find that very difficult to do (as evidenced by the difficulties experienced by asylum seekers, refugees from violence and economic migrants across the world).
      The argument put by some of the students that rich people got their wealth fairly is pretty superficial and assumes a lot of facts/non-facts that they do not have. Perhaps they are assuming that anything that is legal is fair, and that it always has been so, although I think they know better than that.
      The real value in all this - aside from the hugely entertaining way in which Sandel conducts his classes - is in getting everyone to closely examine their knee-jerk reactions so that they can properly understand where they are deluding themselves, the value of the tenets underlying the opposing arguments, and to what extent we could reasonably be less certain about our own positions.
      Great stuff. 😊

  • @kasturimore5256
    @kasturimore5256 4 роки тому +7

    The whole justice series is amazing!! 👏

  • @dagraunddaggad127
    @dagraunddaggad127 4 роки тому +1

    I listen these lectures and I want to say that you have the best teachers, the best universities!

  • @Danny_jrt
    @Danny_jrt 6 років тому +1

    I am so honored to have watched this series. I cannot wait to be in Boston next yearrrrr!!!!!

  • @fuuud3005
    @fuuud3005 5 років тому +262

    Who is still watching in 2019?

    • @sandys8753
      @sandys8753 5 років тому +2

      I certainly am. I'm on lecture #24. It's so enjoyable.

    • @shubhamsatyam8882
      @shubhamsatyam8882 4 роки тому +4

      I am. I have Political science as subject for Indian Civil Services exam. I am totally relying on these for western political thinkers' part.

    • @DaHookKim
      @DaHookKim 4 роки тому

      Watching this during working hours

    • @2b3pro
      @2b3pro 4 роки тому +1

      @@AlexIgSmith42 She watched them twice, once forwards, once backwards. :P

    • @suhaspargavkar8638
      @suhaspargavkar8638 4 роки тому +2

      hey alex, there are two lectures in one video. for information on the name of lecture see the description..

  • @firdosahmed2764
    @firdosahmed2764 5 років тому +2

    What a lovely professor
    His lectures are so clear

  • @brentturno861
    @brentturno861 4 роки тому +20

    This is what I need during quarantine period. I’m obsessed with this discussion.

  • @annauciatawekesa1454
    @annauciatawekesa1454 8 років тому +60

    I really got to understand so many things

  • @sheetsha
    @sheetsha 5 років тому +3

    Only one word for these lectures, Excellent.

  • @macosbyanthony896
    @macosbyanthony896 Рік тому +2

    Dead Harvard, kindly download more of these discussions. It is building me up every day.

  • @CRISNCHIPS12398
    @CRISNCHIPS12398 13 років тому +5

    This is so deep and meaningful. The profound knowledge that this man speaks of is making my mind explode.

  • @dominichsweden
    @dominichsweden 10 років тому +14

    Me too... His classes are just great!

  • @spacekettle2478
    @spacekettle2478 4 роки тому +23

    @17:00 I really love how the professor guides the student away from a simple ad hominem attack to try and actually argue against Locke's argument itself.

    • @jeaninejeanine2670
      @jeaninejeanine2670 3 роки тому +3

      Congratulations to an excellent professor for expertly guiding a room not just to memorize but to think and articulate themselves.

    • @Jozaaaa
      @Jozaaaa 2 роки тому

      52:00 Sandel agrees with the student that raised the valid point. He puts Locke’s position into its historical context and expounds on the high likeliness that Locke had ulterior motives

  • @RunningCordoroy
    @RunningCordoroy 11 років тому +7

    This lecture is so thorough. I am very grateful for this academic exposure.

  • @etsukofly
    @etsukofly 2 роки тому +3

    This is sooo good! Thank you Harvard for posting this lectire

  • @usmanranjha9406
    @usmanranjha9406 4 роки тому +62

    It's interesting how the ethnicity of students affect their leaning to a certain side of the argument.

    • @ard1805
      @ard1805 4 роки тому

      usman ranjha
      How do you mean?

    • @jdev3002
      @jdev3002 4 роки тому +1

      Uh...

    • @NikhilSharma-wx7kb
      @NikhilSharma-wx7kb 4 роки тому +13

      Everyone has inherited bias. The only way to let it not affect our thoughts and actions is by acknowledging it and addressing it.

    • @cyberblock7619
      @cyberblock7619 3 роки тому

      @@NikhilSharma-wx7kb wow

    • @skyroxx
      @skyroxx 3 роки тому

      u sure about that?

  • @mz6367
    @mz6367 2 роки тому +2

    I take these episodes as a series and I really enjoy on my time

  • @rosy3803
    @rosy3803 2 роки тому

    UA-cam recommended this for some reasons, and I have dived too deep in this serie. Love his humour and voice.

  • @lailatulqurrotaayunin8754
    @lailatulqurrotaayunin8754 3 роки тому +6

    When i can't sleep after 1 am i look back to mr sandel's right and justice series and its always make me sleep better😅
    Idk why, i suppose to say this is very calming but got my brain working at the same time

    • @buayo475
      @buayo475 2 місяці тому

      Woow! That's exactly me here😂

  • @canoricardo1
    @canoricardo1 12 років тому +3

    VERY interesting. Thank you all who made these videos possible.

  • @hemantneeta
    @hemantneeta 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent excellent excellent! Enjoyed every single lecture by him.

  • @leramaemontante6192
    @leramaemontante6192 2 роки тому

    watching these really helps me a lot.

  • @linhnguyenngocphuong5875
    @linhnguyenngocphuong5875 8 років тому +89

    Who is watching this in 2016???
    (this professor really makes philosophy more interesting to study! It's a pity i'm only know about him now)

    • @maxi0361
      @maxi0361 8 років тому +1

      +Linh Nguyễn Ngọc Phương not only interesting, but have a profound value and meaning for the greater good.

    • @luxuryvn
      @luxuryvn 7 років тому

      Linh Nguyễn Ngọc Phương I do :))

    • @linhnguyenngocphuong5875
      @linhnguyenngocphuong5875 7 років тому

      good for you

    • @luxuryvn
      @luxuryvn 7 років тому

      Thanks!

    • @wisdomdaily3889
      @wisdomdaily3889 7 років тому

      Linh Nguyễn Ngọc Phương l also read his book "What money can't buy" several years ago.

  • @BobBogaert
    @BobBogaert 2 роки тому +4

    44:20 is one of the highlights. It's fine not to pay taxes, as long as you don't use any public utilities. Roads, parks, transportation hubs, basic education, basic healthcare, etc. Can't call the police or fire brigade. Can't access the courts in case of a business dispute. This point should've been driven home properly instead of skipping to the case of conscription. If everyone is free to choose to fund only the causes they care for, we'd live in a society with tons of hungry kids and well-coiffeured poodles.

    • @dianahill5116
      @dianahill5116 2 роки тому

      He says nothing about embezlement.

  • @savitrithakur5245
    @savitrithakur5245 2 роки тому +1

    After watching 3 videos , I finally paid heed to the date, omg these were posted 11years ago😱😱

  • @remediossantos9847
    @remediossantos9847 3 роки тому +1

    I love and has been enjoying the discussion, very enriching!

  • @kartikrathore5720
    @kartikrathore5720 4 роки тому +11

    As an Indian I'm feeling happy and proud that Supreme court of India made Right to property as Constitutional right rather than fundamental right and settled the issue once and for all.

    • @eagillum
      @eagillum 2 роки тому +2

      Interesting... What did that change?

    • @SubcontinentIndex
      @SubcontinentIndex 10 місяців тому +1

      The SC of India didn't do crap. The socialists 5 year plan cut copy paste Nehru and his successors did that by bringing in the Ultimately, the Forty Fourth Constitutional Amendment, 1978, deprived the 'right to property' of its 'fundamental right' status. Even before that Nehru started taking away and nationalizing TATA's Air India. Imagine working hard, giving your blood & sweat to start a company, and these socialists walks around and say THANK YOU, NOW ITS MINE. There is a reason Ambedkar put "RIGHT TO PROPERTY" as a FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT. And because of these silly socialists policies, most talented Indians go to CAPITALIST countries like the WEST.

  • @kartikeya758
    @kartikeya758 3 роки тому +4

    Michael sandal is a great teacher.

  • @hamrazahmad850
    @hamrazahmad850 3 роки тому +1

    After hearing students question with Patient and answer it with super logic and at the end ask student name.....Great teacher❤

  • @macosbyanthony896
    @macosbyanthony896 2 роки тому +1

    Thursday 18th August 2021... great materials don't go out of style... I love these lectures... hope to be part of it someday soon...
    I have a lecture to deliver myself

  • @michaeldubick9922
    @michaeldubick9922 4 роки тому +13

    Even now still watching .... June 2019

    • @nicolefry6544
      @nicolefry6544 4 роки тому

      even september 2019..

    • @user-bt1co5md1r
      @user-bt1co5md1r 4 роки тому

      December 2019 as well...in Russia

    • @springrollwang4441
      @springrollwang4441 4 роки тому

      I feel as dumb as a rock. calculus is simpler .

    • @user-bt1co5md1r
      @user-bt1co5md1r 4 роки тому

      @@springrollwang4441 calculus is more difficult to my understanding... for example

  • @evracer
    @evracer 11 років тому +4

    LOVE THIS SERIES!!!!!

  • @brainstormingsharing1309
    @brainstormingsharing1309 3 роки тому +1

    Absolutely well done and definitely keep it up!!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @ShahryarKhan-KHANSOLO-
    @ShahryarKhan-KHANSOLO- 4 роки тому +1

    Love this series! ❤

  • @TheJerryw08
    @TheJerryw08 12 років тому +3

    My God, this man makes me feel sick. He is such a wonder teacher, he allows his student to think, I went to C.S.U.B. Where having you own opinion could get you tossed out of school. I would have loved to have Professors like him.

    • @wadegrillo9641
      @wadegrillo9641 3 роки тому +2

      9 years later and it’s only gotten worse my friend :(

    • @sheilabright2091
      @sheilabright2091 3 роки тому

      I was wondering if anyone had experienced that 11 years ago and you did 9 years ago. It’s horrible now!

  • @janetyao
    @janetyao 3 роки тому +3

    I also found this on 2020, wish I had known this 10 years ago :) but nevertheless very appreciated!

  • @stevemorse108
    @stevemorse108 9 років тому +1

    Great lecture. I have not been impressed by other Harvard Law lectures but this one was outstanding. My reservations regarding the other ones I listened to were that the works of different authors were pre-digested. I studied philosophy at St. Andrews University and law at Oxford and students were engaged in more autonomous activities; research, analysis and presentations from their firts year.

  • @misssweethearted
    @misssweethearted 11 років тому +4

    thank you Harvard

  • @carlosmorales2880
    @carlosmorales2880 10 років тому +3

    “at least where there is enough, and as good, left in common for others“ this a good locke´s argument against gates wealthy....

  • @piseykim3170
    @piseykim3170 3 роки тому +2

    I have my own online class to join, but this lecture is more interesting to watch!

  • @lillianji7076
    @lillianji7076 2 роки тому +2

    I’m a high school student learning watching this in class and it’s really engaging

    • @dianahill5116
      @dianahill5116 2 роки тому

      He says nothing about embezlement.

  • @maxi0361
    @maxi0361 8 років тому +18

    I've learned about John Locke Natural Law when I was young and believed in it. But I was young and naive. It turns out that we are living in a hierarchy world.

    • @wade2bosh
      @wade2bosh 5 років тому +3

      all systems form hierarchies

    • @cyberblock7619
      @cyberblock7619 3 роки тому +1

      @@wade2bosh The most dangerous being communist hierarchy

    • @ricardosantos6721
      @ricardosantos6721 2 роки тому

      There are no rights or laws in nature, only the law of the stronger. Is everyone 100% retarded to not see this?

    • @Maya-sv1pz
      @Maya-sv1pz 2 роки тому

      and that's why it requires maturity and and adult life experiences and life left for future consequences for someone to be viable to run governance on a society.

  • @Sternertime
    @Sternertime 10 років тому +59

    Tywin Lannister, that you?

    • @amyjordan9162
      @amyjordan9162 3 роки тому

      Congratulations to an excellent professor for expertly guiding a room not just to memorize but to think and articulate themselves.

    • @devious5348
      @devious5348 3 роки тому +1

      every video you comment that

  • @thomasalbright7492
    @thomasalbright7492 2 роки тому +1

    This is my 3rd time watching this lecture series over the years. Brilliant professor; brilliant lectures. I've learned as much or more here as in college and grad school courses in "Anthropological Culture Theory" and "Sociological Theory." I'm sure that by now, Professor Sandel knows that indigenous Native Americans weren't all hunter/gatherers; many cultivated the land; and some did both, so Locke's private property ideas aren't problematic, and therefore colonists DID steal Native lands. He SHOULD have known this. Where did he think potatoes, corn, tomatoes, tobacco and more came from! Any school child knows that much.

  • @annauciatawekesa1454
    @annauciatawekesa1454 8 років тому +11

    That was an awesome lecture.

  • @KarthikeyanRajaseker
    @KarthikeyanRajaseker 3 роки тому +5

    Watching this in 2020/1, amidst the pandemic, its so disturbing to hear so much coughing amongst the students. No wonder why classes/univs are closed.

    • @sheilabright2091
      @sheilabright2091 3 роки тому +1

      Somebody coughed? I didn’t hear it. 🤷🏼‍♀️

  • @samchen2618
    @samchen2618 2 роки тому

    Watchin epi 4. I might hav difficulty understandin all these from epi 1 up to e end but thankful and wjll finished and watch again to hav better gasp of understanding

  • @2JOfficial
    @2JOfficial 12 років тому +5

    @orochicc002 "united states is a country with most people are just normal and follow the law ".. my point exactly, they just follow the law like sheep and don't tend to think a little bit

  • @hall717
    @hall717 6 років тому +3

    I love how he keeps telling them to stand up

  • @aaronwamser3858
    @aaronwamser3858 3 роки тому +2

    The way this man can remember names is close to intimidating. I want to learn this power

  • @piaisrat4472
    @piaisrat4472 3 місяці тому

    Really I think it's a best issue for our learning. Thank you very much dear Sir.

  • @bmbmbmyiv
    @bmbmbmyiv 10 років тому +88

    I'm 12 years old and this is what I watch, i'm planning to go to Harvard later on in my life, so this, in a way, is like Pre-Harvard for me!

    • @johnston336
      @johnston336 10 років тому +37

      This is top 5 on my list of things that didn't happen

    • @alexandeon
      @alexandeon 9 років тому +3

      johnston336 Yeah I feel you. But the very idea that it is still on your list says something positive.

    • @jay1jayf
      @jay1jayf 9 років тому +11

      You're in a for a surprise kid, lol.

    • @hannahg3093
      @hannahg3093 7 років тому +8

      You are technically 15 years old now, almost time to go to college... good luck

    • @JupiterJay
      @JupiterJay 7 років тому

      Uber Mensch: so are you still watching this after 3 yrs?

  • @lilianaprina5991
    @lilianaprina5991 2 роки тому +3

    Lovely Harvard students, please share with us the books you are reading for this course. Some of us cannot afford Harvard but love reading. This Professor is very talented.

    • @aarnashah3290
      @aarnashah3290 2 роки тому

      course material for reading is on edx u can get the free audit version and check it out .... that is if u hvnt already finished or given up on this course

  • @belabotum876
    @belabotum876 2 роки тому

    Dear Harvard, my name is Anna. I am of Abraham Lincoln’s relation. My fourth grandfather was John Hanks, Nancy Hanks brother. In this I see the power of Lincoln in the spot resolutions. You touch my heart. The instructor reminds me of my Poly sci professor Mr. Bastear.

  • @lawtutor-leng
    @lawtutor-leng 2 роки тому

    Wow! I just have seen this kind of lecturs, glad to have learned about it.😇

  • @LieslIncorporated
    @LieslIncorporated 9 років тому +13

    Many students qualify what they say/think with: "...but that is my opinion." What do they mean exactly, I wonder. That they haven't thought it through and are unsure about it? That they don't want to disagree with others (even though they do)? That they will happily change it if it isn't acceptable in their current surroundings?

    • @Tetraglot
      @Tetraglot 5 років тому +5

      The point of the course is to understand what certain schools of thought have to say about various issues based on critical thinking and rational arguments. So for example, when Rachel says she has an opinion that Locke might be used to defend the appropriation of Native American lands by English settlers, what she means is that she has a hunch that this is true, but she hasn't yet worked out what argument Locke would make to justify colonization.

    • @xiaoling4320
      @xiaoling4320 2 роки тому +1

      I think they want to disagree in a polite and civil way.

    • @C3yl0
      @C3yl0 2 роки тому

      It means that you respect what the other party states and cannot expect that your argumentation be the absolute truth. Under the laws of reasoning in arguments all premises and the conclusion must be either truth or wrong in order to have a good argument. You achieve this by providing evidence and a conclusion that supports that evidence.
      If one of them is false the entire argument is bad and becomes a fallacy. Therefore, that is why you say in my opinion or I believe that….

    • @andrewbowen2837
      @andrewbowen2837 2 роки тому

      My professor of political theory challenged students who said that. It's a lack of confidence in an answer, it's someone not sticking to their guns, someone timid and not assertive. It's a more recent phenomenon too, he's noticed. A simple solution is to state "I think" before making the claim

  • @ying6707
    @ying6707 6 років тому +5

    Great professor and students, I tried to imitate the way the professor teaching style and I failed horribly in China

    • @-datnerd-3125
      @-datnerd-3125 5 років тому

      You are Chinese?

    • @kaushalagrawal6258
      @kaushalagrawal6258 3 роки тому

      sorry if I'm wrong, but is it maybe because the students aren't as bright?

    • @xiaoling4320
      @xiaoling4320 2 роки тому +2

      @@kaushalagrawal6258 it's because the students aren't used to it. Schools are way different in china, its a big adjustments

    • @Guizambaldi
      @Guizambaldi 2 роки тому

      I'm assuming in China they just take notes and memorize it for the test...

  • @nour1584
    @nour1584 3 роки тому +2

    I'm writing my A-levels in philosophy tomorrow and binge watching these lecture is such a great way of understanding political philosophy

    • @laylaxbadalova4690
      @laylaxbadalova4690 2 роки тому +1

      im watching to help with my law personal statement haha

  • @henryarero
    @henryarero 10 місяців тому +1

    Right to life, right to defend your right and right to protect and Defend the right of others

  • @moribundmurdoch
    @moribundmurdoch 3 роки тому +3

    These lectures are FIRE. Harvard be seeing other people doing lectures and they like "HOLD MY BEER"! HAHAHATEEHEEWHOOHOOWOO哈哈哈哈哈하하하하하ROFL-COPTER MDR!

  • @jeongminyoun5388
    @jeongminyoun5388 4 роки тому +5

    To understand individual episode. I need 2 hour for each one.

  • @mateiteca1780
    @mateiteca1780 21 годину тому

    great thanks for making this so accessible

  • @macosbyanthony896
    @macosbyanthony896 Рік тому

    1st November 2022 and I am watching them all over again and again...

  • @user-ju4ve5ft6c
    @user-ju4ve5ft6c 7 років тому +3

    Watching this at 2017, really should watch this earlier, I thought it would be boring, didn't know the professor made this class this interesting🌚🌚🌚

  • @mmekalmashhadi5467
    @mmekalmashhadi5467 7 місяців тому +4

    Can someone tell me what are the books being read during this course

  • @sanciekemtrup308
    @sanciekemtrup308 3 роки тому

    Amazing. Challenges thoughts. Love it

  • @LowKickMT
    @LowKickMT 2 роки тому

    the hall is astonishing beautiful, what an environment wow

  • @ViralShotGag
    @ViralShotGag 6 років тому +204

    Who is watching in 2018????