@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic its the fact that I didn’t even know that random ass park was supposed to be “god’s eternal hell” until now that makes it even funnier 😂
Realizing hell was man-made was an essential part of my deconstruction. And videos like this are so crucial for helping people heal from religious trauma syndrome. Thanks for taking us along on your journey. This is one hell of a video.
@@24BinIsNot01 hell is entirely fictional. I’m always willing to grant the possibility of a heaven for the sake of arguments and the like, but hell is definitively made up.
@@24BinIsNot01 why would an all good, all loving god need to infinitely punish people for finite crimes? Also, punishments are meant to teach, not to torture or condemn. You have forgotten the meaning of these words. Shouldn’t a punishment end? Shouldn’t the person receiving their punishment learn and then, once the lesson has stuck and they have truly made amends, shouldn’t the benefit of the doubt be restored? Why would I believe an all-good god can’t understand such a fundamental idea? Why would you want to follow someone who is so incapable of forgiveness?
You are severely wrong. Hell does exist. The Bible also teaches that few are saved. Only those with supernatural faith can see the truth. You should not spread these lies.
Really ironic how idyllic Gehenna is today. When I was researching abroad in Jerusalem for grad school, I went to Gehenna for a food truck festival and joined a rock climbing club there. Fairly peaceful park these days.
The caveat you mention early in the video, "you don't have to worry about hell...not if you're sure you truly know Him", absolutely destroyed my mental health as a child. As a kid, how was I supposed to "know for sure"? It caused incredible amounts of anxiety for me. The video was quite healing, thank you.
I bet you and I have both known people who have “gotten saved” or “rededicated their life” more than once out of paranoia, being praised every time. Not an uncommon experience in the church at all. Yet I’ve already had several comments on this video saying that my experience of that paranoia proves that I was “never a true Christian.” A baseless, self-serving narrative at best, and gaslighting at worst.
I had a friend in undergrad who became an atheist in part because of her fear of hell. It gave her anxiety/panic attacks. What's funny is that she gave up her faith before I did and her father is a pastor. I tried doing Bible studies with her in a desperate, last-ditch attempt to cling to my faith, but we only had one meeting before she gave up her faith. About a year later I became an agnostic.
I don’t know where you guys went to church when you were young but hell was rarely mentioned in our church.The fear of hell almost never crosses my mind as a Christian.May be because I am from the eastern side of the world where Christianity is practiced differently.The idea of being saved in a moment of time is not part of our faith.Also we don’t know what Gehenna looked like few thousands years ago.It was supposedly the land field of the time where animals remains and city garbage was burned in addition to human child sacrifice offered to god Moloch.
@@historian9484 I grew up in the Midwest of the US. Christianity can be pretty hard-core for many devout Americans, and the fear of hell is very common. "Fire and brinstone" pastors is a phrase for a reason, and the fear of hell was an argument basically used by my family in their attempt to persuade me back to Christianity after my sister outed me as an atheist. There are people who get disowned by their family members if they leave the faith of their family, my sister knows a girl whose Jewish family disowned her after the girl converted to Christianity. Religion is a major part of people's identity. Even the former Vice President, Mike Pence, said in a speech that he was first a Christian before being a conservative or Republican, and a LOT of politicians in the US will reference their faith in Christianity in official speeches.
@@jessicawilson1751 I completely disagree with the way these families treat their loved ones.Christianity in United States is just a political game.You cannot be elected unless you’re christian.These are the people that give Christianity a bad taste in a lot people’s mouth.I am so sorry for all the people here that had a bad experience with their early experience with religion.Some fanatic believer in all religion have obsession about their religion.These are mentally ill and not Christians.The person of Jesus though is so beautiful.He is the example of the highest level of moral.Even if you don’t believe he is the son of God,Christianity changed the world for better.Compare the Roman culture at the time with the Christian culture.Romans were brutal,they enjoyed seeing a lions attacking and killing another human.As Bart Eherman in his book how a persecuted religion take over the world in 400 years even before it was declared the religion of the Roman Empire.There were something different about the message of Christianity that polytheist Roman couldn’t find in the few hundreds God’s that they. Left for Christianity
I was raised southern Baptist, they were very fundamentalist. I was also taught hell was a literal lake of fire where people are tortured in unimaginable ways. My dad specifically had a strict literal understanding of the Bible. He told me many times as a child I was going to hell for the silliest little kid stuff. I am 29 now and no longer Christian but I’m still recovering from that. Thank you so much for this video.
Same. Was raised southern Baptist and my entire family still are. My grandmother was the choir leader. My family thought I was having a psychotic break when I told them I didn't believe in God anymore.
Hopefully you don't hate him for it. He probably really believed that teaching you that would mean that you would never become a criminal and end up in jail or commit suicide etc.
Also raised Southern Baptist. A very small-town church with a very hand-picked congregation (mostly just our extended family and a couple other families). And they were ALL about "fire, brimstone, and eternal damnation" for the dumbest things. I am, apparently, still condemned to hell because of that one time I pulled my sister's hair 45 years ago.
@@tvdan1043 The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don't think most of those people care that mental health professionals view that as child abuse.
well go back to Christianity lol or your going to hell how stupid are people to not comprehend that?!? Its like someone telling you if you jump off a cliff you will die, so your resolve is jumping off the cliff
I am almost 30 and have been deconstructing from growing up Pentecostal for the last 15 years. I have a lot of trauma from it and have worked so hard for so long to heal...and just one simple video about hell not being real and seeing where it all started undoes the mental mindfuck of it so much more quickly than the therapy did. Holy shit. Thank you. So much.
It's so sad people are falling for the plan of the enemies of the human soul..Hell is NOT man made, it never has been. People of all belief systems have been there in their spirit and come back. They all know it's real when they come back. While many will seek healing bc of the trauma it may cause, it's even worse to be lied to and realized when we enter the spirit that you were wrong. Too many people have been to hell in their spirit. They describe it sometimes with tears in their eyes in very close detail to others. There was an expedition also to the core of the earth by scientists where they were so sure they heard screams like they've never encountered. The dug into the core of the earth, where many say hell is in the spirit world. Some of the scientists were so freaked out that they stopped the project..While thinking of such a place can cause a lot internally, it's best to know such a place is real rather than molding a lie for yourself only to find out it is after we step into eternity. Just like prison and punishment is real here on earth, it's real in the spirit world, that's what hell is, only a lot worse than on earth. Hell is a very real place in the spirit world, just like heaven is..
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic Drew? Can you speak-up and cover the current Lashing-Out against LGBT that the Conservatives do? This isnt 'getting political' thats what youve always done: Protect the Weak, fight Misinformation, defend Truth against Fake-News, and of course side with the Not-Hateful over the Hateful.
Hi Drew, my name is Xavier, I am 12 years old, your videos have helped me become a more intelligent and all around better person. this is my first time writing in a youtube reply thing, but I just wanted to say that me and my dad were just discussing the very subject that in Jesus' time, then day Palestine/Israel was going through a lot of hardships which could be the reason why so many people misinterpreted spending eternity in a lake of fire, for just the grave, I have grown up catholic, and just like you, I have heard many things about spending life in the most agonizing torture possible, but now, thanks to you, being able to realize that none of that is true, makes me feel like a immense boulder has been lifted from my shoulders. So thank you soooooooooo much and I look forward to watching your videos to come!
Stay safe, Xavier. Hopefully your parents are loving enough to understand and accept that you've come to a different conclusion than them, but if they aren't, be wary of telling them until you're old and independent enough to leave. May you live a long and prosperous life.
You think a lot more than the other kids around you; don’t expect your peers to understand you for some time. Be kind, but be clever, and never forget that everyone always has their own best interests at heart over yours.
I am so happy for yourself that you were able to overcome the fear and now shall be able to live life with a certain freedom of thought and rationality
Lol your going to hell, theres nothing that can proof that God doesn’t exist, and your parents did a good job raising you but you have to revert back or your going to hell… MWOOHOOSH
When I was younger(9-11ish) and considered myself Christian, I was pretty confident when asked if I was going to heaven/hell so the thing that always frightened me the most was that my dad was an atheist so I always was terrified that when I died and went heaven I would hate it cause I would know my dad was in the worst place imaginable. Really glad you brought that idea up because I also remember pleading with my dad to change and praying for God to have mercy and it's hard for a kid to have thoughts like that.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
I remember having that but reversed. My dad said that in heaven we wouldnt remember the members of the family when in heaven. Later it was beought up in convorsation w my mom and she said 5 year old me was crying and i kept saying "daddy told me you were going to hellll"
Pseudoscience and Gay-Hate shake-hands in the USA. Pseudoscience has a Growth-Spurt right-now cause the Conservatives funneled Money into it to harm LGBT+? I wanna raise Awareness so i comment this. Yeah, this is happening: A massive Slander-Campaign against Trans People that Professor Dave Explains and Planarwalk try to oppose, but thats hard. Please inform yourself and choose the not-hateful side in a giant War on Trans-Peoples Human-Rights, led by a guy who politely requests a re-classification of an entire Minoritygroup as ‚mentally-ill-by-default’ (!!!) and is at War with Professor Dave now.
After denying Christianity when being raised in it in my entire life I’ve never felt so free and at peace with myself and everyone else. Its quite literally an indoctrination.
This is how I always describe how it feels after deconverting. Free and at peace. Those exact words. Christianity and most other religions are extremely toxic. It's crazy to think we just rolled with it for so long. I look forward to a future with less religion.
@@sarahowens5332 I think that’s why a majority of newer generations deal with a lot of anxiety and depression. We’re all trying to navigate the world and our existence without religion. We’re essentially pioneers navigating this new path. For far too many generations societies have used religion to a problem that most likely will never be solved. There is comfort to know that we might never know the answer of our existence but at least we know we’re not living in a lie.
@@Ty-wf6mg That's the common Christian opinion - that people would be less depressed if they believed in God. Couldn't be more wrong. We just live in a society that isn't design for human well-being. We value money, success and effectivity more than anything else. Wars(initiated be Christians, mind you) left our parents and older generations traumatized in a way they couldn't do anything about it except for suppressing it and I mind you - older generations are very religious. They are not any more mentally healthy than us. All they could do at their time was suck it up and go on. We, on the other hand, have information and therapist available. And with therapy there's much more peace than with some stupid gods. Christians are just full of opinions. Every single Christian has their own version of Christianity in their head and that's why there's such a chaos. That's why there's like millions of Christian sects. I can say one bullshit that a Christian said to me to another Christian and he'll said it's bullshit, because he "feels it differently". Guess what. Everyone feels it differently. I'm at peace with thinking that there's no god and no malicious Christians go to heaven while I, while trying my best at being a good person, go to hell cause I wasn't really sorry after doing something minorly wrong, or not believing in god.
Thank you so much for making this content. I've been out of the church for a few years and I still get little bursts of anxiety even though I stopped believing a while ago. This video was really helpful.
You don't have to believe. Christ showed everyone how to live and God gave the commandments as rules to live by. The whole bible isn't about how to get into heaven. It's about how to live morally, ethically, equally and kindly amounts your fellow mankind. Jesus healed the sick, fed the hungry, helped slaves. When he said through me you get to the father. He meant, take my examples of how to treat and live with and around others. THIS IS THE WAY. Just be kind, considerate, helpful ECT. The bible isn't a guide to get into heaven, it's full of lessons on how to live a pure life. Don't live this way, just to gain personal assurances to the Afterlife. Live this way, because it's the humane way to live, it's that simple. Forget belief....just live with heart.enrich your soul and even more importantly, enrich others. ALWAYS HEART (belief or no belief)💜
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Oh man, I remember "rededicating" my life to god over and over because I was terrified of hell, and also feeling incredible anxiety over the responsibility of saving my friends from hell. Glad to be free of that
as condescending and entitled christians often come across in their "pls repent Jesus loves you" speeches I kinda feel like i realise how maybe they r jus really scared sometimes, not forming any moral high ground. i definitely think it depends individually but yr experience made me think differently i guess it's genuine worry and anxiety rather than trying to tell you what to do all the time so incredibly predatory and psyche damaging to instill this idea into our brains often when we hardly have autonomy
Here is my story. I was born into the southern baptist community right in the middle of the Bible Belt here in Alabama. My Paw Paw and my entire family has always been close with God. When I was about 6 or 7 I had just gotten out of school one day and I had a feeling pulling me to getting saved. I was Baptized about a week or two later. Out of all the moments of my life that’s the only time I thought I felt a genuine connection to God. After that it all fell down hill for me. You see throughout my life I was always taught that you need to be in a church pew on Sunday mornings and to try to be at every church function possible. I never really thought the Bible was all that interesting personally but I was taught it was the best book and if you disagreed then it was basically a sin. I found the services so boring that the only thing getting me through was waiting to go out to eat afterwards. It wasn’t until I was about 10 or 11 but my church was showing a movie about the rapture and the end times. Keep in mind I was not aware of this and my first exposure to it was this movie. I was absolutely horrified and scarred and I basically lived the next few years wondering if it was going to happen if I was saved enough to go to heaven. The only consolation my family offered was if your right with God then you have nothing to worry about. That’s the thing, how was I supposed to know if I was right with God? I prayed and prayed but nothing seemed to put my mind at peace. During my teenage years up to when I was 21 I attended a youth group with friends at a different church and truthfully the only reason I went was because of my friends. I heard the same dogma over and over again from the old youth pastor and it left me feeling indifferent to things. At this last Easter I remember an aunt of mine who’s a “true Christian” say “If you dont have God in your life then your miserable”. It wasn’t said to me, it was just being tounge and cheeky. Basically in closing, this year I have really questioned my faith. I wouldn’t say I’m a Christian anymore because it seems like Christians today would be an embarrassment to God with their behavior. I do think there is something out there greater than us. I guess what I’m trying to say is that, I want to believe in God but I just can’t since the evidence doesn’t add up. Thank you for those taking to time to read this.
Hey Dan just read your comment and after reading the last part I understand how you feel. I want to believe as well but it almost feels impossible especially with everything that's going on in the world today especially with Russia and threat of nuclear war and people saying oh God will never let that happen but humans are crazy and I don't think any supernatural whatever is going to stop (or even cares to want to) a crazy person from launching nukes or if this so called god actually enjoys watching the world suffer. I mean there's a UA-camr by the name of Morgue and that's how he looks at the god of this world(a war god) and sometimes I don't think he's too far off. I mean if you really look at the world that we have today things aren't getting any better they're only getting worse and it seems the worse it's getting maybe there's more enjoyment and seeing that happen. That's just my two cents on everything anymore. Maybe I'm wrong I Don't know all I know is but it comes to an all-powerful being I don't know what to think anymore.
Thank you for sharing. Remember that belief in a higher deity does not have to be moderated by a third party (ex, Jesus) I wish you luck in the exploration of your faith.
Man will always let you down but Jesus Christ will not. You must be born again which means supernaturally changed by God, where the invisible burden you're carrying is lifted off of you and you're filled with the Spirit of truth. Ask Jesus to show you the truth. Sadly, you probably won't find it in a church in these times. God bless
@alicehodges9964 I'm an atheist too. It was a suggestion for an alternate title, he literally said in the video "it's not that bad" or something to that effect
When I hear the words “child abuse” I immediately think of the physical torments inflicted on children by clergymen - and of the mental torture that so often follows. But now, having heard you describe the hellish tortures directly injected into your brain by church teachers, I know for sure that “child abuse” encompasses a far wider category of criminal wrongdoing. The physical abuse is against the law and will hopefully be punished if found out, but what about the constant and nearly universal mental abuse inflicted on children by the church? Can we hope that one day this torture of the innocents will also be deemed a crime?
As horrendous as I agree the idea of hell is, I don't think telling children about it can be considered children abuse, because the parents believe it to be a real risk that they're saving their children from. It's not child abuse to teach your child not to run into a busy street. The fact that we don't believe that threat to be real doesn't change the fact that those parents do believe it. If the government passed a law saying you could no longer scare your kids by telling them they'll be run over if they run into the street, you'd be rightly concerned. If the lawmakers try to tell you the traffic on the street is only a hallucination, that would understandably not change your mind.
The God who supposedly inspired the Bible-left it alone to fend for itself after that. He is supposed to be an all-knowing God who can see the future.Which means he should have seen the mental and physical torture the words in "His book" would cause-and the wars,the slavery,the misogyny,the child abuse,etc. So,apparently,he saw the results of "His Word" down through the centuries but let it happen anyhow. I'm glad he doesn't exist!! Because he would not be worthy of worship.
Child abuse is completely wrong, but hell will feel like torture but it’s only what you deserve! And since most Westerners have not experienced much pain, that’s why it’s gonna be torture!
You videos are awesome. I was raised fundamentalist evangelical in Tampa Bay, FL. homeschooled through high school. I've been Atheist (just meaning I've seen no proof of higher powers and don't waste time thinking about it anymore) for ten years now but because I was indoctrinated from birth I still struggle with stuff like this sometimes. Especially when my family is still devout. Anyways, I appreciate your content 😍
Same here. I'm over 65 and these videos are helping me many many years after I deconstructed on my own with the help of a Carl Sagan book Dragons of Eden.
Indoctrination kills belief in truth. You can't inherit belief. Your parents can't give it to you. You have to seek out truth for yourself. I was raised as a Jewish atheist. I had to find out if what my folks taught me was actually true. I'm glad you're seeking. And look at the claims of Jesus too that believers in Him believe. We must look at ALL the data on ALL sides if we're to be intellectually honest. If you seek truth without bias and allow for the possibility that Jesus is who He claims to be (John 14:6 as you know) then you are doing well. Be well on your search! 🤗
Yes, it's hard to escape from early religious abuse. I didn't get the fire & brimstone treatment because Catholics are "discouraged" from reading the Bible and the priests and family may use the softer version of separation from God = torment. In high school I switched to praying to Scotty to beam me up. But I occasionally had "But What If" moments, especially after someone used Pascal's Wager on me. That stopped when I realized that it was a "forced Choice" not a realistic one. The forced choice is that you must choose God [Jehovah] or Satan or nothing. But what if the real God is Ahura Mazda, Tiānshū 天樞, or one of the thousands of other Gods mankind has created over the 50,000+ years of human existence? Once that barrier broke, I was truly free!
As an almost 40 year old who was literally raised (my grandfather was a preacher so I was in church every sunday before I could sit up) in a proto- fundamentalist Missionary Baptist church, your channel is incredibly helpful and insightful. I have been deconstructing for the past 16-ish years (maybe longer). I struggled so many with so many aspects of "my faith" in my teens and early 20s and finally have determined that I cannot live in the fear of the church any longer. However, the fear of hell still plagues my nights. This video was relieving in so many ways. An aside and addition to several other comments: pushing this cyclical fear of hell on children makes GREAT little tiny evangelist - now that I'm terrified of burning forever, and I have been told that not telling others puts their blood "on my hands" well guess where that goes? The evangelical churches just have generations of traumatized people filling its ranks. But again, thank you for sharing your journey with your fellow apostates.
Legalism kills. Gods saving grace and love toward us is what matters. King James Bible "I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain." Christ died for you and i while we were yet sinners. Do you know what that means? He didn't offer a 25 step program... he preordained works that we should walk in them yes, but works do not save nor keep us saved. Ephesians 2:8 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:” I think i have confused the blood on the hands thing as well, but if you look closely you will see that is to the Israelites. THEY are instructed to be a watchman on the wall for Israel, but we are not under the law, we are not in the O.T. Christ has ascended to the right hand of the Father. This began the age of GRACE. The Gospel went out into the world since that time. Though it is right to speak the Gospel to people out of love. Amen? John 13:34 “A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.”
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Why did you end up leaving the church? UA-cam comments section is not a great place to talk at length but I'd like to at least hear the biggest reason.
@@fireandworms you know the verse that says (paraphrased) "by their fruit you will know them?" Well, the fruit was rotten, imo. These people were mean-spirited, hypocritical, racist, homophobic, transphobic. And it was all so subtle: "hate the sin and love the sinner." Or none of them would say they hate another race, but non-while people were not super welcome at the church and interracial marriages were frowned upon; I do remember hearing as a child that God made the races to be separate from each other. There are probably 1,000 little things but just the mental gymnastics of selling hate repackaged as God's love and the Hell Theology are the biggest reasons.
I did my grad school at a seminary although I was never an ordained minister. I had a professor who was fond of saying "the Bible almost never talks about Hell, and talks even less about Heaven."
I must say, I really enjoyed everything about this trip, the presentation, content, and cinematography. Most of all the friendships you generously shared seamlessly within this video, I could hug each and every one of you. Stay safe.
I was raised Christian. I deconverted and have raised my son without religion. When it was finally introduced to him (by another person) he thought it sounded insane and it was weird that people believe these things. I've talked to him about religion's relationship with human social and scientific evolution. He's was single digit aged at the time but he's very grounded in what can be proven.
This is the Gospel of the REAL JESUS: Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day. He shed His blood on the cross for you. Your part is to Repent of your sins and Trust in Him. BUT, you MUST Trust in the right Jesus! Otherwise you haven't Truly Repented! Are you trusting in the Jesus of the Bible? If not, then you are still in your sins!! And, in this situation, you will be cast in the LAKE OF FIRE, for ALL ETERNITY!!! Repent of ALL your sins and Trust in the RIGHT Jesus today and God will save you. He will grant you eternal life, not because you earned it, deserve it or because you are a good person, but because He wants to give you eternal life as a FREE GIFT!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. Accept it today!!! Tomorrow maybe too late!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
@Joe dirty71 because default state is no beliefs whatsoever. You're converted from no beliefs at all, to X belief. Ergo- deconvert when leaving. Regardless of the indoctrination through childhood it's still conversion.
@Joe dirty71 new atheist huh? 'Hurr de durr my idea is way more true than yours ' What? Lol your previous statement is nothing more than your opinion. Same with the one I'm replying to now. As an atheist idgaf what you choose to believe about the default state of life. If you want to believe that you start off christian that's your issue. Just know you're kind of reeeeeeeeee tarded for not realizing that the default state is no beliefs. Beliefs are taught, not inherent.
@Joe dirty71 ok. Idk what the point of our disagreement really is, or why it matters, but, I still hold to the idea that if it requires indoctrination/teaching, regardless of how early it's done, that it's a conversion process. An off topic example I'll use is like training a child soldier. They weren't born willing to lay down their lives for a cause. We wouldn't say child soldiers are being born. We'd say trained to be child soldiers. I use the same basic thought process when looking at belief. I really feel like this is a totally pointless disagreement though. We may as well be arguing about whether the use of silent letters in English is a good idea. **Note---- yes I know you're not saying 'born Christian' but I think, reasonably, that you understand my point, whether or not you agree
@Joe dirty71 I don't really think either of us are 'wrong' about it. We just see it differently. It's not like this point of disagreement is something that can be proven through math or science. It's all just opinion and interpretation.
I've been trying to rehabilitate my relationship with Christianity and the Bible, especially surrounding Hell and judgement, so this video is so helpful in reframing that perspective. Thank y'all so much for this!!
@ישוע הוא המשיח בן האלוהים we owe our existence to six inches of topsoil and the fact that it rains. what’s more holy than returning to the earth that bore us? death is not isolation; it’s total union with every soul that has been and will be - to die is to breath life into the universe. i have accepted death, and until it comes, i will find rest in the universe death and life have given unto me. find peace, and don’t despair.
Your videos are essential for people leaving religion behind. I feel so free since becoming an atheist, but I still get paranoid about some of the vile teachings I was forced to absorb. Drew, keep doing what you're doing. You do make a huge difference!
Drew I wish that you and everyone else traumatized by hell, finds peace. The park Gehenna was just beautiful. I was raised atheist, and it wasn't until I started watching UA-cam atheist videos and in the process learned more about Christianity that I found out what is taught to children and I couldn't believe it. I thought children got the age appropriate version of hell, but apparently not. I didn't know adults often remained afraid of hell in adulthood, were traumatized by it and often couldn't get over it. That is so sad and so wrong. I hope all of you find peace of mind.
I wasn't raised particularly religious as a child, but it was hard to completely avoid religion, and I inevitably absorbed some of the teachings, but I did start to have my doubts. However, my fear of Hell has never fully left me even after I stopped believing. I wish I didn't ever even have to imagine the concept of Hell, the idea that I could potentially be condemned to eternal torment by an all-powerful being if it was displeased with me. I believe the world would be a better place if every one was raised as you were. As you say, I hope everyone traumatized by religion gets to find peace.
I grew up in a mostly agnostic household and in fact, even had a great grandfather who was freemason. That being said, religion was still a big place in my childhood because my school was Catholic adjacent. We quite literally would pray the rosary three times a week and had a Christian Living class but didn't really do more beyond that. (It gets complicated but I personally think my mom wanted me to decide what I believed in but wanted a school that was religious enough for the family but still technically secular). Those factors made me question things more than others but it wasn't until I was around 14-16 that I just couldn't stop the questions anymore. No answer was satisfying and things just didn't make sense. I don't remember when exactly I said I couldn't believe things anymore but it was definitely sometime when I left college. Despite that I still have some fear of burning in hell because of one really big mistake I made that I still regret. So I think I never stop deconstructing.
@@bluz1864 I wish you the best, and hope you find peace and self-forgiveness. There are many quotes in stoicism and Buddhism about each day is a new day to try again, forgiving yourself because you're only human. There is a Buddhist quote something like there are no sins only mistakes which are forgivable and you can always try to correct them. I'm not a Buddhist, I'm atheist, but I find a lot of their attitudes helpful. One of my favorites is: if your compassion does not include yourself it is incomplete. Best wishes!
@@timscott6793 I'm a Christian believer but I appreciate your comments. My preference is to seek an understanding of God as a loving God who created us. I respect how you feel and I hope the Creator guides each of us to a better understanding of His love for us. Peace
It kills me that my beloved daughter and son-in-law raise their precious children with the fear of hell. What can I do? Stay close to them and show a loving grandma who’s not afraid. I hope they learn the history of hell as you have described so clearly.
Even though the children are raised with a concept of "the fear of hell" ( depending on what they are taught ), I hope they are told about a loving God who created them. This may not tip the scales as you desire, but it could help psychologically as the children learn other aspects regarding God. Peace to you and the children....
Show those kids this channel if they are old enough. There is alot of content here to dismantle the manipulative sides of theism. As far as i see, he isnt directly opposing of theism as well, even though he himself is an atheist. Just in case you wish those kids to still grow up christian (or whatever religion they are part of). This channel is amazing in countering the bad parts of religion without condemning the concept as a whole
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT´S A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
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@Finn No inocent people will be in hell... Don´t worry about that...
I can't explain why, but I feel positively compelled to thank Taylor, Jeremy and Derek for devoting their time and energy into helping make this video.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
@@Robert-xp4bn What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
I've preached the whole, "It was just Gehenna, a valley outside of Jerusalem" thing for a while now, but seeing it and how serene it is... man that puts it into perspective. Thanks for the video, Drew and team!
Over time though, Gehenna made a career and turned into a place of post-mortem punishment, as evidenced by 4th Ezra, 2nd Enoch, the Babylonian Talmud, and then the Quran, where it reappears as "Jahannam", which is the Arabic word for hell. As our sources are so sparse, it is hard to say, whether Jesus when speaking about Gehenna really only meant the valley or whether his Gehenna was already a transcendental place of post mortem punishment.
@@chrisazure1624 The whole story about the Canaanites sacrificing children to Molekh might by just another ideological invention. The archeological evidence strongy suggests that the ancient Hebrews themselves were Canaanites who migrated to the inland after the late bronze age collapse. The whole story of Joshua's conquest of the holy land which talks about the total eradication of hundreds of Canaanite towns and cities is total fiction whose likely purpose it was to create distance between the Hebrews and their Canaanite ancestors. So I would take this narrative with a big grain of salt.
"If you're an apostate in need, there are resources linked in the description." It's cathartic even just to hear it worded that way. Thanks, mate. Good work, team.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
My friend is still trying to escape the beliefs of her cult after 40 years of involvement, including an extreme fear of hell instilled in her from childhood. I’ve been looking for content about the history of the idea of hell to help alleviate her intense fear, so thanks for making this video!
lol "religious abuse"😂 sorry for the trauma us Christians caused you.😓 Allow me to buy you Richard Dawkin's books to make it up to you my fellow "smart" atheist.
I can't even imagine how devastating this horror-myth of hell could be to children and their future life. I think, threatening children with hell is severe child abuse.
It's more complicates than that though. There's a whole cycle of abuse. If just telling a child about Hell is abusive, put yourself in the position of someone who believes in it, having been told the same scary story when you were a kid. Your options are: tell your kid about Hell no matter how damaging it could be, or let them actually go spend eternity in a place so bad that even hearing about it is harmful. There's also the problem of admitting to yourself that it's harmful in the first place. It's easier to insist you grew up the same way and totally turned out fine, than to admit that you were mistreated by the parents you both instinctively love, and were at one point completely dependant on. So harming your own kids becomes a way to protect yourself from acknowledging that you were harmed when the same thing was done to you. You also see this pattern with more mundane forms of normalised child abuse, such as corporal punishment.
@@generatoralignmentdevalue But then the question becomes..why make more babies? If humans desserve to suffer and be punnished by default, and only the grace of god can save you, why would you create a new life on this earth doomed to deal with that same curse, with a chance of eternal damnation? From this pov, the very concept of making babies is pure pure cruelty. Dont bring forth new lives if they get burdend from the moment they take in their first breath. Loving parents becomes a paradox, because no loving human would even consider bringing a new soul on this earth with those uncertain conditions. There is a chance your child will doubt, believe other things. You want to risk creating a new soul just for the chance of it suffering forever? Why would you do that? What kind of sick people do that? Even if I fully believed myself, I would refuse to have children because there is no way to know for sure my child would die a believer. And there is no way I would want my child to suffer, regardless of what they believe. My love for this new vurnable soul that didn't ask for these harsh and unforgiving tests as well as my guilt for exposing it to possible forever suffering.. Even if I could go to heaven, I would not spend one second there at peace knowing the role I played in bringing forth suffering on this poor child of mine who failed to pass gods little confusing test. No. if you believe in hell, and you believe that all humans are doomed to go there by default UNLESS god saves you regardless if your good or bad, then if you ALSO make babies, your just psychopath.
Awesome video. Growing as a JW we were taught about the mistranslation of hell from sheol and gehenna, and also the Greek translations of hades and tartarus. Side note; I remember hearing Dawkins saying teaching about hell to be child abuse, and even as an atheist I thought it was a bit of a stretch, but seeing how many years of torment you had to go through to get over that fear, maybe there's some merrit to that
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
@Get 2 oops, looks like *somebody* hasnt experienced severe religious trauma as a child before. yes, teaching young impressionable children that if you dont do exactly what a non-existent being wants you to do youre going to face genuine eternal torture and agony is mentally abusive. although im not catholic, im still struggling with religious trauma caused by me being a jehovahs witness as a bisexual trans man and being forced not to be my true self unless i wanted to die a gruesome death in armageddon and have my mom and sister live eternally and eventually forget i ever existed. i cant imagine how horrifying it must be for those who are taught about being eternally tortured while fully conscious by some oh-so-loving being, instead of just ending up dead and forgotten like i was taught. stop invalidating people for dealing with a type of trauma you dont understand. its beyond sickening.
I find that people who grew up as JW would have less religious trauma than those who grew up as Pentecost, Baptist, Catholic etc. The beliefs of JWs are much more rational.
@@andreciagl I wouldn't say more, but instead a different way. Jw's are taught from an early age that anyone outside the religion is bad. You can't have outside friendships, even if your job has a bbq you can't go. And if you want to leave the religion, you have to be prepared to lose every friend and families member for the rest of your life. It's 100% in, or 100% out, 0 exceptions
What helped me overcome the fears of hell were the realizations I’ve had over the last ten years about he idea of hell being absolutely man made. Humans don’t enjoy being on fire, and all of the things that you could go there for are actually the essential things that keep civilization from crumbling, ie not eating too much food or not working enough.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
The imagery of the real-life "hell" being this nice little grassy park is so beautiful. I could just feel myself being there and finally knowing that there is nothing to fear, and never was. Lovely video.
Why?? It was a place where human infants were turned into live burnt offerings to an idol with an oven for a belly. That's why Hebrew prophets turned its name around and used it as a metaphor for the fiery wrath of God consuming or immolating the wicked. Would you hang out in the house where the Manson Family murders took place, or in Hernry Mudgett's "Murder Castle", or Jeffrey Dahmer's pantry, and say "What a peaceful place!" But notice I said "consume", not "torment eternally". The Hebrews did not believe in that; how could they, when, according to them ,God alone is immortal and lives forever, while human life is contingent on the breath in our nostrils?! Greeks and Romans however followed Plato and the wacky ideas he picked up in Egypt, such as the silly notion that when you die, you leave your body as a disembodied something and go somewhere. Then they got hold of the Bible, tried to make it fit that when it doesn't , broke both things trying, pureed the fragments together, and gave us the non sequitur smoothie we get served by the religionists of today. As for fear: the whole point of Christianity is that there IS nothing to fear, and never really was. Jesus is "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world'; your sins were paid for before you ever committed them. Christ assumed your position as condemned sinner so you could assume his position of righteous son of God with eternal life ; so accept the position. There's no threat of punishment hanging over your head, so stop fearing. But don't neglect to cash in the winning lottery ticket you've been handed either.
well it wasnt always like that. Gehinnom is where the bodies of criminals and vagabonds were thrown. it was a wasteland full of bandits amd treachery back then. Plus there is also a place known as Sheol in the torah which is the ACTUAL "underworld" that existed as a cave that went under the earth for the dead souls to dwell. Basically gehenna was Tartarus from greek myth and Sheol was "Hades" the regular underworld.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Despite being an atheist since I was old enough to give it any real consideration I have always had an irrational fear of hell. This is the effect of consuming a lot of horror movies and books based on Christian, mostly Catholic, concepts of evil. It is not surprising that writers start with religion when trying to scare us. If the scary story is part of your culture it takes on a personal dimension,, an old story with new teeth. I watched The Exorcist when I was 10 and it brought Hell into focus as the origin of evil and terror. Hell had set up shop in my psyche and the possibility of its existence was hard to shake. I used to have dreams where I was the exorcist, fighting some demon, usually with the lords prayer. We had to recite it until grade 7, so they were the only words of religious significance I knew. Eventually these dreams changed, the demon became the creature from Alien, then zombies. The feeling stayed the same but the setting changed, my hell was still the source of whatever scared me. A fiery abyss with demons,a spacecraft with a monster, a post-apocalyptic zombie land, they are all Hells, sources of existential horror. These days I see Hell and Heaven as equally terrifying concepts. Hell for its torments, Heaven for its loss of individual identity. No eternity can be faced by a rational human mind, so both concepts have been relegated to a deep mental basement, referenced only when writing long UA-cam responses to escape the mental indignities of MassTransit. Hell is other people, and they are all on this bus.
Why do you say "heaven" is a concept that leads to "loss of individual identity"? I've never heard such an expression by anyone. But I do respect how you feel. I'm just curious as to what you meant? Peace
I don't agree with your view of heaven. Heaven is supposed to be a place where one is "One with God" for eternity without the taint of sin. The idea of people being turned to mindless sheep babbling worship to an almighty being in the clouds infinitely is a caricature that must not be used in serious discussions about hell and heaven.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 it has to do with the concept of eternity. I can't think of any state of being that I would want to exist in for an infinite amount of time. Most concepts of Heaven revolve around either material or earthly pleasures, I call this the 'paradise ' model or being eternally fulfilled by existing in the presence of God, I call this the 'completion ' model, aside it represents the completion of our incomplete selves by being in the divine presence. The paradise model seems based in wishful thinking and I don't give it much consideration. The completion model assumes we are incomplete without the divine presence and heaven is a union of sorts to complete us, we then spend eternity as a part of the divine. It's solves certain problems with an eternal afterlife because as a part of the divine you would take on the timeless aspect of God. If you become a facet of a timeless being, can any part of you that formed in your temporal existence be relevant, or even present? You would certainly not still be yourself, your individuality would be like a drop of water joining the ocean. Beats singing praises for eternity, but that's just me. These thoughts were a large part of my taking a more gnostic view on souls and God and a shift to atheism rather than being agnostic. Hope the answer was interesting, it's the first time I have put my thoughts on the matter in writing, so thanks for asking the question.
@@pureone8350 Actually, if you believe what you say, you agree with my view of heaven but have no problem with it. Being "one with God and wirhout sin" doesn't leave much room for identity. At the very least ones nature is significantly altered, presumably taking on the timeless nature of God. I said nothing about "mindless sheep singing praises forever" which I consider as ridiculous as the paradise described by some apologists. As I don't believe in a soul the difference is irrelevant to my overall views, but you might want to respond to what people actually say, not what you assume they meant. The other person who responded actually asked for clarification, any reason why you didn't?
@@pureone8350 We as humans can understand the difference between good and bad because of one simple reason and that reason being we have something to compare it to. In theory, heaven doesn't sound terrible. The huge *but* comes, however, when you realize that the human mind isn't structured for a stagnant eternal existence. If you don't lose your mind as it exists now when you go to heaven, it means eventually the good things in heaven will become terrifyingly repetitive, annoying, infuriating, etc. Nothing is forever perfect in grand amounts, not even the good things in heaven. So eventually, even if it takes a long time, you will start to become numb to what's good because your human mind will make you so accustomed to it you'll seek change in any way it can. That's why the concept of heaven as it is in the bible is flawed, no single human being can stay sane there for all eternity because you see heaven as an amazing place now considering the circumstances we live in on earth, but it's a whole different thing hypothetically being there for long. Now the concept changes entirely if your mind changes when you get there, which is terrible in and of itself
Thank you so much for this. My childhood was very similar to yours. Even today the thought of hell still terrifies me and has led to severe moments of anxiety and sleepless nights. This video is one amazing step on my way to healing from the constant terror I experienced as a kid. ❤️
As someone raised Unitarian Universalist, the whole idea of hell is wild to me. Like Derek, I didn't need to be scared into being a good person, nor did I have to be enticed with rewards like heaven. My church taught me that being a good person and treating others with kindness was the right thing to do because we're all in this together. What happens in the life I have now is more important than what may or may not occur after it ends. Edit: Also had to watch the part at 14:59 multiple times to read all the painting commentary, because that was great. And thank you to Taylor, Jeremy, and Derek!
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
I agree that hell doesn’t exist and is not necessary for anything other than demonic benefit and destruction of good things, but you’re not a good person and neither is anyone else. If you wanna continue in this delusional thinking, the train of reality that shows you just how evil and scummy you are will only hit you harder. Any form of ego and self-righteousness is pure myth and stupidity. Either humble yourself now or learn the hard way like everyone else older and wiser than you. Good luck.
Looking back it's unbelievable that adults teach this stuff to their kids. I was constantly paranoid about ending up in Hell as a child. I wouldn't even say my church was big on the fire and brimstone teaching but the few times Hell was mentioned it stuck with me and captured my imagination because how could it not?
YES. This is the cruelty of it. I made the mistake of dating the daughter of a Pat Robertson devotee and prayer phone volunteer. She started feeding that crap into our daughter when she was just a couple of years old... without telling us! One day after I picked her up from visiting, she began crying and saying that she was going to be in hell soon. When I objected, she began a campaaign to break up my marriage and take my child from me. These people are LOONS who will stop at nothing because they think their god is on their side. Of course he is... their god is themselves!
Hell is nothing more than the winter season. At one time the year was divided into winter, spring, and summer (like in the three sons of Noah/Terah (Earth).
I was Methodist and feel that. Even how much they weren't fire and brimstone either they certainly believed it. As an adult hell has become such an important argument against Christianity. I like Jesus in general, but his father would send me their for being an Agnostic Deist.
Thank you Jeremy Derek and Taylor. You do a great job making Drew look professional and the videos top notch. And jeez making Drew look like that good must be a *lot* of work. kudos.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
I grew up in a Catholic town to divorced parents. Kids used to taunt me that I was going to hell because I wasn't Catholic and my parents were divorced. I was never religious but hell scared the shit out of me and the incident left trauma on me. I have already sent this video to friends of small kids who live in religious towns. If I saw this video as a kid, I know I would have been soothed.
You don’t go to hell for not being Catholic, that’s what the Catholic Church did in the medieval ages to convince others to go to church. You will only go to hell if you reject Jesus.
Drew, what a great video. I renounced my Catholic faith over 30 years ago, and one of the first things that caused me to question it was the idea of being eternally tormented for finite crimes by a merciful, all loving god. But going to the source really drove the point home, and I'm glad that it helped you in your journey. Thank you for your hard work and perseverance.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Hell isn't some place where God purposefully torments us. He loves us and because he loves us he wants our love to be real. If he forced us to believe in him and love him then that wouldnt be real love. So he gives us a choice, either believe in him or don't believe in him. Hell is the absence of God, so i you don't believe in him you go to hell.
@@xevenant7343 have you watched any part of the video at all And that choice youre talking about, is not a choice. If a human wpuld do this it would be a human rights violation.
I've been to Hell, Michigan a few times. While the weather was sometimes inclement...it seemed like a nice little place, on the whole. Thank you Drew, Taylor, Jeremy and Derek for all your work producing quality content. I learned quite a bit today.
Oh hey! That's not too far from where I live! Lot's of lakes, horseback riding and camping there. Probably not a destination spot if you aren't local, but not bad to drive through or have a day trip. I wonder how much it costs to live in Hell? Ann Arbor is getting pricey.
This was genuinely helpful since officially leaving christianity ~5yrs ago. This video is at least a good starting point to finding peace and I'm absolutely getting that book you mentioned at the end because I need more haha. Thank you for making my Saturday a bit better :)
I was surprised that this hit home for me, despite never being religious. It reminded me of seeing my ex again five years after a traumatic relationship. Intellectually I knew I was safe, and we had changed, but worries about meeting her again kept me up at night. It took seeing her again to know in my heart that the monster is not real. I am so happy that you got to walk into "hell" and see the same.
This was the first domino to fall for me, and they've continued to fall. Very interesting video! The fact that Gehenna is now a beautiful park, almost seems a sign of healing to all those terrified by hell. A beautiful and graceful rebuttal of that dogmatic lie.
not really a rebuttal to me because hell to me is when one willfuly sepreates themselves from God eternally not the literall evangalist hell that most people are taught and it is painful because you are rejecting the source of all joy, good and life and hence rejecting erternal joy, life and goodness.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
@Finn Hi there, random guy a month later whose opinion you didn’t ask for here. If he were purely and only benevolent, fair argument. But God is perfectly holy. He literally cannot stand in the presence of sin. If we ascended to Him in our current state, we would be obliterated. Think about it. Why would a perfectly benevolent person allow the filth that is our sin to not only pollute his presence, but his kingdom? Heaven would just be a well-decorated earth if there were no hell for unbelievers. It would just be..the same lol. Rape, indigestion, TikTok, all of it. Forever. And I’m not saying that because I think believers are better and wouldn’t do those things. I’m saying it because believers have the promise of sanctification. Exaltation. The free, massive upgrade that we all need. I think people who reject hell are just unable to accept the massive and polarizing scope of the battle between good and evil. Pure goodness is so good that it cannot tolerate a single speck of evil, because a single pinprick of light just annihilates them dark. It seems extreme to us, but we aren’t used to 100% pure anything. The devil has us convinced that we aren’t so bad. He has us convinced that hell isn’t a thing, and we believe him because it’s like “Dude I knicked a Snicker’s from the corner store and now I’m going to be set on fire forever?” But God is so, so good that even the slightest offense cannot stand in his presence, or anywhere in his kingdom. If he were a human man, absolutely - what an A-hole way to act. But he created us. Saying it is wrong for him throw us in the incinerator because we aren’t good enough for him is like saying a kid can’t stomp out his own sandcastle. That kid has sovereignty over the sandcastle. We are just the sand (well, biblically, the “dust.” You get it). Anyway, if you made it this far, applause lol. Cheers and blessings to you
Thank you for making this. You’ve been an instrumental force in my deconstruction and have helped me all but skip the “angry atheist phase” by watching you engage charitably and calmly with others. The moment where you told a stranger that you are making a video explaining that hell isn’t real was such a nice moment.
As someone who became an atheist about a decade ago, I'm so glad you had someone to help you skip the "angry atheist" phase. I wish I had someone to help me avoid that, but in addition to becoming an atheist I had to attend church for 3 years while living with my parents after college and having to pretend to still be Christian. I despised Christianity for a long time and only in the last few years have I started to heal from the trauma and I'm through the "angry atheist" phase.
I'm a Christian believer and I am also trying to "engage charitably and calmly with others", no matter what worldviews/beliefs they hold. To me, the truth about God is that He is a loving God who created us. I think Jesus came to deconstruct the concept of a "warrior god" and the idea that "God is a monster." Peace to you
@@johnbrzykcy3076 basically I despised anything Christian related. I judged people for being Christian, thinking they were idiots because "how can they believe that bullshit". I was indoctrinated since I was in diapers, and losing my faith when it was so foundational to my identity and everything I believed for about 20 years was really traumatic. And the feeling that I had no choice in my belief system because Christianity was forced upon me with thinly-veiled threats of hell cloaked in "we love you so believe what we believe so you will be eternally saved". I didn't get to "choose" anything, there was the illusion of choice and as a kid you want to do what makes your parents happy because you trust your parents are right.
@@jessicawilson1751 How has life been since becoming an atheist? From my experience, many of those who claim atheism aren't honest enough with themselves to fully embrace the nihilism that evidently springs from it but instead remain in this gray zone where they don't have to acknowledge their existential despair. Kind of like covering your ears and eyes and marching through life.
I once heard a great joke, where the person said that, "The Only Reason that Hell became a thing is because Catholics were utterly terrified of any place hotter than Italy." I suppose the Middle East would fit that rather seamlessly, too.
I remember trying to talk to my then christian friends (including family) about how cruel the idea of hell was to me and how i couln't get over the fact it supposedly existed, while the eternal suffering never appeared to me as an explainable necessity in the first place, despite being indoctrined since my very childhood. I also remember the frustrating answear that I was given and that was breaking my heart every time. The answear was: GRACE. It was the grace I was supposed to focus on. Be grateful that God, the good and holy God, saved me from this suffering I as a human deserved. No. This is not "good". Nor is it "holy". I am 21 now and it's been a couple of years I made the courageous decision to let myself disbelieve what I had already deep inside disbelieved. I remember then feeling extremly lonely and guilty, came down with depression. I remember when I finally found your channel, it provided me with great comfort. Thank you for helping a teenage me
I'm glad you started deconverting in your early 20's. It took me until my late 50's.So much wasted time and life. Anyhow,peace and well-being to you for the rest of your life.
Hell is NOT man made, it never has been. People of all belief systems have been there in their spirit and come back. They all know it's real when they come back. While many will seek healing bc of the trauma it may cause, it's even worse to be lied to and realized when we enter the spirit that you were wrong. Too many people have been to hell in their spirit. They describe it sometimes with tears in their eyes in very close detail to others. There was an expedition also to the core of the earth by scientists where they were so sure they heard screams like they've never encountered. The dug into the core of the earth, where many say hell is in the spirit world. Some of the scientists were so freaked out that they stopped the project..While thinking of such a place can cause a lot internally, it's best to know such a place is real rather than molding a lie for yourself only to find out it is after we step into eternity. Just like prison and punishment is real here on earth, it's real in the spirit world, that's what hell is, only a lot worse than on earth. Please, Jesus is real and so is the demonic..I assure you, it's all real, heaven, hell, the spirit world, there are different places. Sin causes the soul to sink and belong to those who own sin, which is demons..They invented these things bc they knew God, they knew His nature, and they know what He dislikes and what separates humans from Him..
I had a christian classmate who broke down and cried once. When she was asked why she cried, she replied; I think it's so sad that all of you lovely people are destined for hell and I can't meet you all again in the afterlife for I'm going to heaven. This was not in kindergarten, this was a 20 or so year old art academy student. Religion is poison. Don't drink the kool aid.
Arrogance will be her downfall. If you believe your going somewhere better than everyone else, then your already looking down upon others, instead of doing as Christ did.....to treat each other as your equal. She feels she doesn't have to earn her place because just her belief alone will get her there. A common mistake. Your actions will be your judgement. You can follow a belief, but if your not actively practicing, your not really advancing your soul. Plus if you only do good deeds for personal gain later, this too will stunt your spiritual growth. Christ said, through me you get to the father. Wat he meant was.......look at my actions, i have helped heal the sick, feed the hungry, helped the slaved. Many more miracles. That in actual fact were just good deeds of humanity and kindness. This was his message. True people of GOD do good for no personal end goal. They do these deeds because it's the moral thing to do. She condemned you all, yet there is only one true judge.....GOD. you don't have to believe in religion, in order to take it's lessons and put them into practice in the world. Just have a good heart and nurish and nurture your soul as well as others around you. For no other reason than it's the right way to live alongside your fellow mankind. I hope this helps. Always lead with your heart💜
Condemning the so-called 'damned' is something that I trully am aggravated like seriously, this is a sly way of guilt tripping people. Pushing their emotions by means of controlling them is just- no.
@@middleDZ forget "the judgement"...if you only act with heart and kindness because you think after death you'll go to a better place......then your only doing it for selfish reasons. You should lead with your heart because it's the right thing to do. Act without witness or reward. It's all that counts. 💜
@@Sam-zu5mr counts toward what tho? Isn’t doing it because it’s “all that counts” still just me doing good so IM good? (I don’t mean for that to seem condescending, I’m genuinely asking)
Drew, thanks so much for this video. I'm an old man now, going in 78, and my time on the planet is nearing its natural end. I'm embarassed to say that although I'm an atheist, I can't quite shake the fear of going to hell. The funny thing is, unlike you, I was not raised in a fundamentalist family and church. I attended Sunday school at the local mainline Congregational Church (now UCC), where the word hell was hardly mentioned. My mom was raised as a Southern Baptist, but dropped it when she married my yankee dad as a war bride. She must have told me a few times that bad people go to hell and good people go to heaven. The point is, the fear of hell wasn't drummed into me at, home, but I picked it up "God knows" where. Watching videos like this one and following various UA-cam bloggers like yourself have helped tremendously. The whole notion of a supposedly omnibenevolent God even creating a place like an eternal hell is ridiculous. Anyway, I won't go on with all the reasons why hell makes no sense - reasons you already know. With me, it's a battle between my rational intellect and my primitive fear of hell. I keep chipping away at that fear. I hadn't realized how much Plato's made up story about a hole in the ground and a hole in the sky got transformed in the hellenized Jewish world into what became Christian dogma about heaven and hell. Anyway, I've gone on long enough here. Thanks for reading this. Your vids have been a big help to me as I struggle with my irrational fear of hell. I wish you and your lovely wife and all your friends and associates all the best in your respective journeys.
Check out a doctrine called Christian Universalism, I feel like that could suit you if you still wanted to pursue religion at all anymore. It's basically the idea that EVERYONE no matter what, is saved.
Great video! I remember the time when I stopped believing in heaven, and more importantly, hell. It does take a while to quell those fears of eternal torment that were pounded into our heads as children. And the first comment from one adult close to me when I confided I no longer believed in God was evidence of that indoctrination: "You know you're going to hell, don't you?" My response: "Only in your mind."
I respect how you feel. As a Christian believer, I think God wants us to be compassionate and helpful to others. I can't judge anyone. I struggle myself with various doubts. But I do prefer to seek a loving God who created us and therefore He understands us. Peace
@@johnbrzykcy3076 I have no problem with any beliefs anyone has as long as they're not hurting themselves, hurting others, infringing on the rights anyone, or using them to set public education standards or laws. Other than these, enjoy your belief.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 And I also think indoctrinating children in any belief system is wrong. Telling children hell awaits them if they don't believe a certain way is tantamount to child abuse.
Thank you for this video. I actually just finished reading Bart Ehrman’s Heaven and Hell this morning. I feel I can relate to a lot of what you went through. I remember my youth pastor constantly saying “there’s a real place with real fire called hell” all the time on Wednesday nights, and it took me well into my 20’s to confront that.
The Catholic priest at the church I attended used to say in a loud voice, "there is a Hell... there is a hell" to the congregation. I prefer to seek and understand God as a loving God who created us. But I do struggle with various doubts. I wish you peace.
It always dawns on me that I've learned more about Christianity and its texts as an atheist than I ever did as a Christian growing up. I remember having such a huge fear of the things I'd hear about Hell, even having nightmares about hell as a child, but as an atheist, I find peace in knowing death is part of life and am no longer afraid of the fact that one day I will reach the end of my time. The things you can learn when you let go of the things you believe based on just being told. Hell, I've realized that I've read the bible more than most Christians I come across in my life. Some Christians will literally invent bible quotes that just straight up don't even exist.
Just 25 seconds in...the "still small voice"... man!!! I can't even count how many times my father said that to me when I was a child. Even after all this time and belief far behind me, those words will never fail to transport me right back. Thank you for everything. Your channel has always been a safe place throughout this long long journey ❤️
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
No matter how rational you are, no matter how much you know that hell is an invention. If you've ever been told about it as a child, you'll never fully lose the fear. It's like a horror movie. You know that it's not real, but you're still scared. The difference is that hell is told as a fact, not a story and that it is far worse than any idea proposed in a horror film. Pain is the worst feeling that exists. The idea of a place with the maximum amount of pain for the maximum amount of time is the most terrifying story that can ever be invented. It's a simple one, but an immensely damaging one.
I don’t know why I find myself not afraid of hell, but when I try to think about it, it is because even as a child I could never believe in those myths. Even though my parents tried their best to force my brain to believe in religion.
Hello Mr. DNA... I'm a Christian believer but I tend to agree with your comments. I remember as a young kid, the priest at our church saying very loudly to the congregation, "there is a hell... there is a hell." I prefer to seek an understanding of God as a loving God who created us. That's my struggle. Thanks for sharing. Peace
@@johnbrzykcy3076according to your beliefs god created the majority of people in history to only to send them to eternal torture beyond all comprehension. I don’t think most people would even consider that moral, much less loving.
Thank you to you, Jeremy, Derek, & Taylor. It’s comforting to know I’m not the only one that took hell seriously until well, most of my life. It’s something hard to shake the fear of, at the same time, I realize heaven doesn’t exist either & that kills me that I don’t get to see my lost loved ones again. It’s a hard pill to swallow. It’s like knowing your entire life that your parents are you parents & then finding out you were adopted, only worse. Idk it’s not a good analogy but it’s all I got at the moment. I guess it’s like knowing you’ll live forever with your loved ones only to find out you won’t.
The MOST IMPORTANT question of our lifes is: Where do we go, after death? Well, there are only two outcomes, HEAVEN OR HELL!!! This is the Gospel of the JESUS CHRIST: Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day. He shed His blood on the cross for you. Your part is to Repent of your sins and Trust in Him. BUT, you MUST Trust in the Jesus of the Bible!! You MUST BELIEVE the Gospel of Jesus!!! Because, IF you don`t, you will be cast in the LAKE OF FIRE, for ALL ETERNITY!!! Repent of ALL your sins and Trust in the RIGHT Jesus today and God will save you. He will grant you eternal life, not because you earned it, deserve it or because you are a good person, but because He wants to give you eternal life as a FREE GIFT!!! THIS IS THE TRUTH!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. Accept it today!!! Tomorrow maybe too late!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
A video I didn't even know I wanted - but I did, and it's inspired me to tell you all how a pastor broke my faith when I was 8 years old by showing me that Hell, Christianity, and adults in general were all bullsh*t. I took to the Bible early, on my own, despite my family having no real religious involvement. The stories, the apparent complexity, and a system of rules really appealed to a nascent nerdy kid from a chaotic, broken home. I attended Sunday school, competed in Bible study, the whole nine yards. But the more seriously I took it, and the more I studied, the more the logical and philosophical inconsistencies we all know about became hard to ignore. Hell, in particular, was a real problem for my young scientific mind. Some sources acted like it was metaphorical, others like it was real - was there fire, what if they like fire? How does it contain everyone, when there are more people all the time? These questions (not even doubts, yet) began to build until I began confronting my teachers about it on Sunday. Eventually, one of them got fed up and decided to use what he must have considered the "atom bomb" of child indoctrination. It is a moment I've never forgotten, and I've literally never spoken of it before but always knew this moron, in underestimating a child's mind, basically jumpstarted my Atheism. As I recall, he gathered me and 2 other kids (were they also 'hard cases'?) and took us down to the basement to what I as an adult know was the Boiler Room, and the furnace. He opened it and showed us all the fire inside: "There - that's Hell, that's where you're going to go if you sin." Yes, it was noisy and hot and scary but in no way what I imagined as Hell. It simply wasn't worthy of the awe I felt about God. That was it; My belief evaporated at once. I had built-up this magnificent, awe-inspiring concept of God and his world - it was all supposed to be bigger, grander, barely comprehensible by mere mortals. This jackass is showing me an overblown oven. I was no idiot, that's just an ordinary fire like regular humans make. It was like seeing Mall Santa Claus naked with his fake beard in his hand. I was rudely awakened to the dishonesty of adults (and just, people) and - worse - to the flimsy, cheap, disingenuous reality of faith: "This faker doesn't even believe it". I probably spent a few years trying to disprove this epiphany, but you all know how that goes -- the more sincerely your effort to prove it true, the more you will find yourself forced to accept that it was all, all of it, a lie.
Sounds like the guy was an idiot. But I’m interested to hear how that spiraled if you were so enthralled with it before you were told that specifically. Why wouldn’t you just write it off as “well obviously he doesn’t know what I want to know so I’ll ask somebody smarter than him?” Just curious.
@@traguna00 That's a good question, thanks! I remember crying at home about it, but I was the one 'weirdo' in my family getting into religion, so there were probably sighs of relief when I stopped going to church. I remember when people would accuse me later, as a teenage atheist, of "just being angry at god" (that old saw) so maybe I secretly harbored some resentment but it would've been toward human duplicity, not a character in a story I used to love. What's funny is I took a circuitous route to secularism, basically hesitant to give-up this idea of "something magical", somewhere. I wonder how many others have to travel the same road? Maybe the God thing was BS but what about witchcraft? Astrology? Big foot, ghosts, transcendental meditation chupa freaking cabra you name it I tried it all haha. But when yiu finally give up that quest for a delusion of "something more" and actually learn about the Real World - science - omg then you find the Real Magic! All of the complexity, wonder, inspiration I thought I'd find in god is actually real, in Evolution, Astronomy, Biology, my gods we can explain how sh*t actually works that's so amazing it moves me to tears of joy. We're amazing! I'm proud to be one of us. :) I often remember this Douglas Adams line, when I hear theists claim that life needs god for meaning: "Why is it not enough that the lake in the forest is beautiful, without people demanding that there also be fairies at the bottom of it?" :)
This comments is filled w unfortunate childhood trauma but drawn out unnecessaraliy like fan fiction writers😂 hell is real and one bad experience w a teacher wont change it….
@@elvisii4220 Thanks I appreciate the literary criticism. But it wasn't traumatic, if I didn't convey how mundane and disappointing it was, then I failed. What I learned wasn't about hell - it was about people. ;)
Growing up in a 3rd world country, I can say the emotional scarring was much worse. Even as a Christian, we were still threatened with hell if we do not live in a certain strict manner. I remember days as a 7 - 10 year old, weeping profusely, begging God not to leave me behind when he comes for his saints....... I was a child ffs.
Even worse when so many people were testifying about being shown visions of hell and would vividly describe the torments there. By the time they're done doing this, you're so scared that you'll grasp at anything to avoid this place. Then they talk of God and Jesus and you happily say the prayer to dedicate yourself to him to avoid the fires of hell. You want heaven because you don't want hell.
Great video Drew! It's so nice to finally let go of hell - even though for me it was more like the way Taylor saw it: eternal separation from God. (It also helped that the more I learned what the bible says about God, the more "separation" sounded like a good thing!) A gentle request: make text pop-ups last slightly longer - it's frustrating to have to replay to get the whole thing. And finally, spelling: 'cemetery' - a bunch of E's; but not a single A.
@@fleursdelilas9487 You would first need evidence that the idea of Hell not only arose first as Gehenna, but predated the place, of which there is none.
@@fleursdelilas9487 ... Yes, other religions have a concept that can be equated to Hell, but it only seemed logical that this Hebrew word would refer to a Hebrew concept. This complicates your question even more. To be clear, your suggestion is that another religion created a Hell concept that infiltrated early Judaism such that they named said concept "Valley of Hinnom" in Hebrew, then named the park after this Hell concept that is entirely undocumented? Because that has even less evidence, to such a degree that it seems to make the date which the park was named irrelevant. I don't think it's known when Gehenna was named because it occurred in literal ancient history, but without any prior documentation of the concept of either a) Hell in early Judaism b) Hell in some religion predating Judaism, which was subsequently stolen or adapted into Judaism such that it warranted a Hebrew name this suggestion is not a meaningful one. I mean sure, you could believe it if you wanted, but why bother looking at evidence at all if you're going to make up a wild conclusion drawn from nowhere?
@@khunt5336 So I undestang saying that the Hell of the Jewish religion is named after that place or inspired from it is not based on evidence, since he can't say exactly which one was named first. And we can't know for sure. For someone who likes to use science and logic and evidence, I think he made a poor job. Good thing he enjoyed the trip, at least.
I’ve always been afraid of being possessed, even though I consider myself agnostic. I think it just stems from a fear of losing control over my own mind
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT´S A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
@@lightningmonky7674 What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT´S A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Losing control over my own mind is my biggest fear. But not from possession. Watching "A Beautiful Mind" is like watching a horror film for me. The fear of not being able to trust my own judgement of reality -when you can't even see that you need help because your mind is inventing its own layers to your reality.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
Drew - went to hell and back, and didn't even get your face melted off like in the Raiders of the Lost Ark. This video was absolutely incredible - thank you for the effort you put into this!
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
What an absolutely superb piece of work, guys. I can’t praise this enough - being there added so much, the analysis, research and writing was utterly first class. I was never affected by the Hell Myth despite having a Church of England schooling. I was lucky enough to ‘reason’ that a loving anything would never allow that to happen. As I say I was lucky. The clear and passionate motivation to create this and help people is a wonderful testament to your goodness, humanity and character. This video is a spectacular step up in your careers, after a stellar beginning. I am humbled by your clarity of thought and ability to communicate with the audience of people who are negatively affected by being raised in the same way you were. Living in the Midwest I can see there is a great deal of healing needed, and the way you’ve tackled that with your talents is beyond what I could have imagined. More more more, please. Thank you !
confronting hell theology was crucial to my deconstruction, & healing childhood scars that this gruesome, traumatising mythology cut so deeply within me. i must say, i had already gone through much of this process before watching this video. however, this video is an amazing resource for anyone going through that process, & has provided me with more information to both reaffirm my disbelief in hell & better understand it’s origins. thank you so much drew ❤
The fact that so many people in the comments have such traumatic memories from their childhoods of being threatened with hell has made me realize that I probably never really believed that hell actually existed. I was raised in a moderately religious family. My grandfather is a Minister. We went to church every week. I sang in the choir and went on church retreats. But it always felt like something I was SUPPOSED to believe in, not something that I actually did believed in. I remember telling my grandfather that I didn't believe in Satan when I was 5 or 6. It seemed to me that Satan was just another movie monster, and I knew that those weren't real... But then I remember him telling me that if I didn't believe in Satan, I was saying that I didn't believe in God. I think that was the first time I realized that it was a choice, that some people didn't believe that God was real. Before that, I thought everyone believed in God. I don't really know what I did or didn't believe when, I think it probably started to crumble around age 9 when I learned Santa wasn't real, but I know I tried to believe in something up until my mid twenties, but never really managed to buy it... That's when I finally gave up pretending to believe.
I relate to this a lot. I was raised Christian, and even though I hated going to church I never doubted the truth of God's existence because I'd never considered the possibility before. This changed when I got to middle school. At the start of the year, my school had a group of older students talk about their lives, and a few of them said that they were atheists. I reaction was "wait, that's an option?" After that, I started earnestly exploring the issue of god and religion and quickly came to the conclusion that it was BS. I've learned a lot more about both religion and the world since then, but every new thing I learn has confirmed that I made the right decision
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. John 3:16, 18
You're doing some important work with these videos. I was a terrified for the first 25 years of my life because I believed every word the church taught. I continue to suffer in countless ways and behaviors- a full decade after I lost all faith. So was the depth of my indoctrination. The trauma and panic (assembly of god, full-on hell fire and brimstone fundamentalist environment (without a reason to question all of the effed up lies that had been pumped into my brain since birth. Why would everyone around me be lying?) associated with the -always any moment- rapture and hell. The result was a very nervous, deeply depressed little kid. It's so evil to do that to people. When I finally realized the truth, it was devastating to my entire sense of reality. So much of my life could have been actually lived rather than believing that I was a hellhound sinner.
The MOST IMPORTANT question of our lifes is: Where do we go, after death? Well, there are only two outcomes, HEAVEN OR HELL!!! This is the Gospel of the JESUS CHRIST: Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day. He shed His blood on the cross for you. Your part is to Repent of your sins and Trust in Him. BUT, you MUST Trust in the Jesus of the Bible!! You MUST BELIEVE the Gospel of Jesus!!! Because, IF you don`t, you will be cast in the LAKE OF FIRE, for ALL ETERNITY!!! Repent of ALL your sins and Trust in the RIGHT Jesus today and God will save you. He will grant you eternal life, not because you earned it, deserve it or because you are a good person, but because He wants to give you eternal life as a FREE GIFT!!! THIS IS THE TRUTH!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. Accept it today!!! Tomorrow maybe too late!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Thank you Drew, Jeremy, Derek, and Taylor! There are far too few good resources for those going through deconversion and this particular topic is a rough one.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Quran [23:99] - [23:100] (such is the state of the disbelievers) When death comes to one of them, he says, ‘My Lord! Take me back, that I may act righteously in what I have left behind.’ ‘By no means! These are mere words that he says.’ And before them is a barrier until the day they will be resurrected.
Awesome job, Jeremy, Taylor, and Derek! And you, knowledge is the best way to get rid of fear. Just like when you see shadows in the darkness, if you turn on a light and see things for what they are, the fear is gone. Reality has not changed, but your understanding of it changes everything.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
This is so good i created a playlist just for it, great job! this also helped me with my religious trauma! It’s a slow healing process but im really happy to know this. Thankyou so much
Religion student here! Just wanted to compliment your style and consistency in presenting all of this information. Like I was in a class with one of my favorite teachers, fantastic job :)
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
The way I was taught was that the "bad people" would suffer the torments described in Revelation and then be forever destroyed in the lake of fire. So I never really believed in a literal place of eternal torture, but it is still frightening to think about that. Thanks, Drew, for the great content. You've been helping me a whole lot with my deconversion. Peace!
Why be afraid of it if you don’t defend the evil you have done and try to improve? Those who are punished are those who refuse to admit fault; who, in their pride, cannot admit they have done things that are evil.
@@LeviAraujo01, have you envied the things others own? Have you lusted for the flesh of another? Have you let greed touch your heart? Have you done nothing when you should have done something? Have you let anger control you but for a moment? Have you taken pride for the things you’ve done and downplayed the credits others have done? If you have done but an iota of those things, then you have committed an evil deed. Even a minor transgression is still a transgression. No one is innocent of those things for our nature is that of sin. Therefore, it is important we admit to our faults - our sins - to ourselves, at least, or to those we’ve wronged. To not admit fault is to condemn one’s self of their transgressions.
Thanks to Jeremy, Taylor, and Derek for all your work and effort! And thanks to Drew for sharing so many things, and so many pieces of yourself with us. We appreciate you all, and speaking for myself, I know when I open a video here that it will be thoughtful, informative, and well structured. Keep on keeping on guys!
as I child was was brought up catholic, I remember my first confession and the priest telling us when we forget a sin and we die, we would go to hell. The hours I cried kept up all the family. Even they tried to ease me, this did stuck in my brain for years. Took me year as an adult (!) to leave that behind. Thanks for this insight!
Irish Catholic by any chance? I was brought up Catholic in Northern Ireland and the idea of Hell, while not being massively emphasised was touched upon on a regular basis and had a certain effect on me, that's for sure.
I heard Catholicism is the religion of the devil “Thou shall not have any other gods before me” Pretty sure catholicism heavily emphasizes worship of Mary
Surviving torture and agony as a young child, Hell never scared me. Real people in real life scare me. Knowing God will not protect you from harm no matter how hard you prayed or how good you try to be, there is so much suffering you can experience and still breathe air and your heart still beating.... for years hoping something will change, even wishing you would just die. Hell doesn't scare me. Reality does.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT´S A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Your video really touched me, as a former devout believer going through similar scare tactics truly shaped my skepticism as an adult. I’m sure you’re aware of the documentary Hell House regarding this dramatization of conversion through scare tactics and having gone through one myself it saddens me the lengths some believers will go towards conversions. Love your video, would love to see you cover this documentary if you haven’t already.
The MOST IMPORTANT question of our lifes is: Where do we go, after death? Well, there are only two outcomes, HEAVEN OR HELL!!! This is the Gospel of the JESUS CHRIST: Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day. He shed His blood on the cross for you. Your part is to Repent of your sins and Trust in Him. BUT, you MUST Trust in the Jesus of the Bible!! You MUST BELIEVE the Gospel of Jesus!!! Because, IF you don`t, you will be cast in the LAKE OF FIRE, for ALL ETERNITY!!! Repent of ALL your sins and Trust in the RIGHT Jesus today and God will save you. He will grant you eternal life, not because you earned it, deserve it or because you are a good person, but because He wants to give you eternal life as a FREE GIFT!!! THIS IS THE TRUTH!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. Accept it today!!! Tomorrow maybe too late!! "Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
I can't imagine growing up like this. My mom was religious and in her heart very devout, but she never talked about hell or tried to scare or threaten us. Church was a cheerful place for fellowship and doing good, the brand of Christianity there was optimistic and the people were mostly sweet and mellow, they were focused on salvation, not sin, heaven, not hell.
I appreciate your telling of the ideas of ancient Jews. I was raised Jewish and was told about heaven and that we didn't exactly believe in it, and definitely didn't believe in hell. I was also told about what Christians believed, because I was raised in the bible belt, and had to come face to face with Christians daily. Sadly, most Christians I met were anti-semitic. I fought almost daily. At the age of 7, I began to think religion on the whole was all lies adults told children to keep them in line. The more I learned about religion and the more I began to realize adults believed the nonsense I was reading about, the more and more I began to realize it was all a fiction people told themselves because they feared death. I feared death too, but I feared it because I felt it was absolute nothingness. Just like before I was born, death would be the end. No conciousness, no afterlife, just nothingness.
"At the age of 7, I began to think religion on the whole was all lies adults told children to keep them in line." Then you got older, and realized 'oh shit, its not just about keeping *children* in line...'
It isn't just nothingness at death. I had a couple of NDE"S, I died for a couple of minutes and was not able to be revived. I was out of my body watching everything and then merged with a greater I AM awareness. It was more real and vivid than life as we know it on earth, as if earth life was the dream. We awaken into the fullness of Pure awareness, Pure unconditional love. It's almost like how we wake up from dreaming while we sleep and then we realize we were dreaming. We know we were dreaming and that our daily life is reality. At death, a similar thing happens. At death, we awaken as if out of a dream, into a greater reality than we could ever know while embodied. This has nothing to do with the brain lacking oxygen or dying. Our awareness expands beyond mind/brain/body. It is a quite astounding realization.
You better get serious about it and read the forbidden chapter of Daniel 9! hell is eternal it was created for the devil & his angels But mankind will go there for rejecting Jesus as God. Sin against eternal God, you get eternal punishment!
I can’t describe how much ur videos are helping me heal from religious trauma. Ur deeply analytical and fact/history based approach brings comfort and clarity, especially regarding hell, as I have struggled with nightmares and fear for what seems like forever Thanks so much
Hi! Great stuff! I'm a Christian-believer and so impressed with your work! I watch your videos from time to time to listen to your perspective and your experience! I'm familiar with the platonic impact on many of Christian beliefs and that in fact needs to be called out. Also I would say I take the apocalyptic view. That the promises in the old and new testament of resurrection to be bodily. I'm not here commenting to offer an argument. I just want to say I appreciate your academic approach and lack of a condescending tone that is present in so many other atheist speakers. This is very listenable. Keep up the good work. If everyone continues to ask good questions maybe we can together find might better answers
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!! The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!! "Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
Thank you, I've left the religion behind almost two years ago now, and the fear of hell has been a particularly hard thing to work through, but hearing that Jesus himself didn't believe in the popular version of hell and what he was talking about is actually a pretty nice green park today helps so much
I think Jesus actually came to erase the "popular version" of hell and He taught about a loving God. I never really liked even the word "religion" but in my mind, Jesus was the best example of God's love. Peace to you
I'm an ex-Christian (Catholic and then Protestant) who recently finished her conversion to Judaism. I still have a good impression of Jesus, however I've also realised how anti-Jewish the New Testament is. E.g. how it paints a purely negative picture of the Pharisees, which were the group that most likely evolved into today's rabbis.
@@onegoodlife Have you ever read what the Old Testament prophets had to say about the Jewish people and their leaders? It is not any softer than the New Testament.
I watched the collab with CosmicSkeptic. In that video you mention that you are similar and I admit, I thought that you were similar when I first started watching you too. This video really sets you apart though. You did exactly what you said you would do, combining experience with history and psychology. Bravo. You're in another league now
Pseudoscience has a Growth-Spurt right-now cause the Conservatives funneled Money into it to harm LGBTQ+? I wanna raise Awareness so i comment this. Yeah, this is happening: A massive Slander-Campaign against Trans People that Professor Dave Explains and Planarwalk try to oppose, but thats hard. Please inform yourself and choose the not-hateful side in a giant War on Trans-Peoples Human-Rights, led by a guy who politely requests a re-classification of an entire Minoritygroup as ‚mentally-ill-by-default’ (!!?!!) and is at War with Professor Dave now.
Many years after I admitted to myself that I was an atheist I still randomly get anxious over going to hell. It still pops into my head randomly and it takes a few seconds before I realize it was fake. Any time I hear someone say that indoctrination of children is not child abuse I tend to stop talking to that person, not suddenly, but I will cut them out of my life. I can't change them, I can only change myself.
Also raised Jehovah's witness, ex-jw now. Sadly, the lack of fear of Hell was replaced with the fear of being shunned(disfellowshipped), "The Great Tribulation", "Armageddon" and the judgement after the "Thousand Year Reign". But hey, if you survive all that then you're golden🙄
the fear of hell is synonymous with the fear of Armageddon by witnesses, being raised a witness I was never scared of Armageddon, made peace with the fact that I was not entering into his kingdom, and that was okay, maybe that's because I never really believed anyways. Great to be out. 🥂
@@izzyOla Armageddon is from har Megiddo (hill Megiddo) which is the autumn equinox (west). This the place where the sun falls below the celestial equator and shit hits the fan. The story of the last stand against the Romans at har Megiddo is copied from the astrological works of Ptolomey.
I appreciate everybody's explanations for those unaccustomed but I'm well aware of all of this, unfortunately, having lived it myself. Maybe it's an autistic experience of never being particularly integrated into the congregation, but personally I'm glad I was just a social outcast and not a social outcast with a fear of burning for all eternity for being gay, just being abandoned and never waking up in the New World. Not necessarily better, but I consider it one less bit of trauma I have to reckon with
Thankyou for this. I grew up being told the same things and really struggled to come to terms with the fact that maybe it wasn't true... it's really hard to get your head around feeling like 20+ years of your life were shaped by fear but videos and perspectives like this are so helpful. It's videos like this that are helping me begin to heal and it's good to know I'm not alone in that journey.
12 years was enough for me, I couldn't handle the Christian lies at that point. I can't imagine living with that fear and cognitive dissonance that long, I'm sorry for you. That's almost why I feel like arguing with people over the age of 40 is useless because they've had their minds made up so long nothing can change it at this point
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I literally had my first kiss in that park
She is israeli and im palestinian
We literally kissed in hell what the fuck
🙈 what if we kissed 💋👄 where the fire will not be quenched 😳😳
GMS is a memer confirmed
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic its the fact that I didn’t even know that random ass park was supposed to be “god’s eternal hell” until now that makes it even funnier 😂
was it in winter? did hell freeze over because you guys didn't kill each other?
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic If they're good enough kissers, maybe it's the fire of *passion* that will not be quenched?
Realizing hell was man-made was an essential part of my deconstruction. And videos like this are so crucial for helping people heal from religious trauma syndrome. Thanks for taking us along on your journey. This is one hell of a video.
Tysm bestie ❤️
@@24BinIsNot01 hell is entirely fictional. I’m always willing to grant the possibility of a heaven for the sake of arguments and the like, but hell is definitively made up.
@@24BinIsNot01 why would an all good, all loving god need to infinitely punish people for finite crimes? Also, punishments are meant to teach, not to torture or condemn. You have forgotten the meaning of these words. Shouldn’t a punishment end? Shouldn’t the person receiving their punishment learn and then, once the lesson has stuck and they have truly made amends, shouldn’t the benefit of the doubt be restored? Why would I believe an all-good god can’t understand such a fundamental idea? Why would you want to follow someone who is so incapable of forgiveness?
You are severely wrong. Hell does exist. The Bible also teaches that few are saved.
Only those with supernatural faith can see the truth.
You should not spread these lies.
@@viensolis If hell exists, what is the point of it?
Really ironic how idyllic Gehenna is today. When I was researching abroad in Jerusalem for grad school, I went to Gehenna for a food truck festival and joined a rock climbing club there. Fairly peaceful park these days.
😂. Hope it didn't taste like garbage.
Yoo huge fan here!Looking forward to ur next video!
Brooooo! Fancy seeing you here. Big fan of the both of yall
You joined a rock climbing club in hell? 😆
Food truck festivals seem hellish enough to me
The caveat you mention early in the video, "you don't have to worry about hell...not if you're sure you truly know Him", absolutely destroyed my mental health as a child. As a kid, how was I supposed to "know for sure"? It caused incredible amounts of anxiety for me.
The video was quite healing, thank you.
I bet you and I have both known people who have “gotten saved” or “rededicated their life” more than once out of paranoia, being praised every time. Not an uncommon experience in the church at all. Yet I’ve already had several comments on this video saying that my experience of that paranoia proves that I was “never a true Christian.” A baseless, self-serving narrative at best, and gaslighting at worst.
I had a friend in undergrad who became an atheist in part because of her fear of hell. It gave her anxiety/panic attacks. What's funny is that she gave up her faith before I did and her father is a pastor. I tried doing Bible studies with her in a desperate, last-ditch attempt to cling to my faith, but we only had one meeting before she gave up her faith. About a year later I became an agnostic.
I don’t know where you guys went to church when you were young but hell was rarely mentioned in our church.The fear of hell almost never crosses my mind as a Christian.May be because I am from the eastern side of the world where Christianity is practiced differently.The idea of being saved in a moment of time is not part of our faith.Also we don’t know what Gehenna looked like few thousands years ago.It was supposedly the land field of the time where animals remains and city garbage was burned in addition to human child sacrifice offered to god Moloch.
@@historian9484 I grew up in the Midwest of the US. Christianity can be pretty hard-core for many devout Americans, and the fear of hell is very common. "Fire and brinstone" pastors is a phrase for a reason, and the fear of hell was an argument basically used by my family in their attempt to persuade me back to Christianity after my sister outed me as an atheist. There are people who get disowned by their family members if they leave the faith of their family, my sister knows a girl whose Jewish family disowned her after the girl converted to Christianity. Religion is a major part of people's identity. Even the former Vice President, Mike Pence, said in a speech that he was first a Christian before being a conservative or Republican, and a LOT of politicians in the US will reference their faith in Christianity in official speeches.
@@jessicawilson1751 I completely disagree with the way these families treat their loved ones.Christianity in United States is just a political game.You cannot be elected unless you’re christian.These are the people that give Christianity a bad taste in a lot people’s mouth.I am so sorry for all the people here that had a bad experience with their early experience with religion.Some fanatic believer in all religion have obsession about their religion.These are mentally ill and not Christians.The person of Jesus though is so beautiful.He is the example of the highest level of moral.Even if you don’t believe he is the son of God,Christianity changed the world for better.Compare the Roman culture at the time with the Christian culture.Romans were brutal,they enjoyed seeing a lions attacking and killing another human.As Bart Eherman in his book how a persecuted religion take over the world in 400 years even before it was declared the religion of the Roman Empire.There were something different about the message of Christianity that polytheist Roman couldn’t find in the few hundreds God’s that they. Left for Christianity
I was raised southern Baptist, they were very fundamentalist. I was also taught hell was a literal lake of fire where people are tortured in unimaginable ways. My dad specifically had a strict literal understanding of the Bible. He told me many times as a child I was going to hell for the silliest little kid stuff. I am 29 now and no longer Christian but I’m still recovering from that. Thank you so much for this video.
Same. Was raised southern Baptist and my entire family still are. My grandmother was the choir leader. My family thought I was having a psychotic break when I told them I didn't believe in God anymore.
Hopefully you don't hate him for it. He probably really believed that teaching you that would mean that you would never become a criminal and end up in jail or commit suicide etc.
Also raised Southern Baptist. A very small-town church with a very hand-picked congregation (mostly just our extended family and a couple other families). And they were ALL about "fire, brimstone, and eternal damnation" for the dumbest things. I am, apparently, still condemned to hell because of that one time I pulled my sister's hair 45 years ago.
@@tvdan1043 The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don't think most of those people care that mental health professionals view that as child abuse.
well go back to Christianity lol or your going to hell how stupid are people to not comprehend that?!? Its like someone telling you if you jump off a cliff you will die, so your resolve is jumping off the cliff
I am almost 30 and have been deconstructing from growing up Pentecostal for the last 15 years. I have a lot of trauma from it and have worked so hard for so long to heal...and just one simple video about hell not being real and seeing where it all started undoes the mental mindfuck of it so much more quickly than the therapy did. Holy shit. Thank you. So much.
Wow this is making me tear up. This right here is what keeps me motivated to make videos. Thank you so much for sharing ❤️
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic thank you so much! To the entire team. This was an incredibly well done video
It's so sad people are falling for the plan of the enemies of the human soul..Hell is NOT man made, it never has been. People of all belief systems have been there in their spirit and come back. They all know it's real when they come back. While many will seek healing bc of the trauma it may cause, it's even worse to be lied to and realized when we enter the spirit that you were wrong. Too many people have been to hell in their spirit. They describe it sometimes with tears in their eyes in very close detail to others.
There was an expedition also to the core of the earth by scientists where they were so sure they heard screams like they've never encountered. The dug into the core of the earth, where many say hell is in the spirit world. Some of the scientists were so freaked out that they stopped the project..While thinking of such a place can cause a lot internally, it's best to know such a place is real rather than molding a lie for yourself only to find out it is after we step into eternity. Just like prison and punishment is real here on earth, it's real in the spirit world, that's what hell is, only a lot worse than on earth. Hell is a very real place in the spirit world, just like heaven is..
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic Drew?
Can you speak-up and cover the current Lashing-Out against LGBT
that the Conservatives do?
This isnt 'getting political' thats what youve always done:
Protect the Weak, fight Misinformation, defend Truth against Fake-News,
and of course side with the Not-Hateful over the Hateful.
@@nenmaster5218 pahaha
Hey I dunno if you guys remember us but me and my friend were the two Jewish kids you guys saw in Gehenna that were doing the flips! Nice video btw.
Yo no way!! I definitely remember you guys. It’s so cool you found the video!
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic yah it just popped up on my feed randomly today and I was couldn’t beleive that I found it lol
thats cool!
יו זה ממש מגניב מה
do you agree that palesine should be free? @@yonakana1247
Hi Drew, my name is Xavier, I am 12 years old, your videos have helped me become a more intelligent and all around better person. this is my first time writing in a youtube reply thing, but I just wanted to say that me and my dad were just discussing the very subject that in Jesus' time, then day Palestine/Israel was going through a lot of hardships which could be the reason why so many people misinterpreted spending eternity in a lake of fire, for just the grave, I have grown up catholic, and just like you, I have heard many things about spending life in the most agonizing torture possible, but now, thanks to you, being able to realize that none of that is true, makes me feel like a immense boulder has been lifted from my shoulders. So thank you soooooooooo much and I look forward to watching your videos to come!
Stay safe, Xavier. Hopefully your parents are loving enough to understand and accept that you've come to a different conclusion than them, but if they aren't, be wary of telling them until you're old and independent enough to leave. May you live a long and prosperous life.
You think a lot more than the other kids around you; don’t expect your peers to understand you for some time. Be kind, but be clever, and never forget that everyone always has their own best interests at heart over yours.
I am so happy for yourself that you were able to overcome the fear and now shall be able to live life with a certain freedom of thought and rationality
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Lol your going to hell, theres nothing that can proof that God doesn’t exist, and your parents did a good job raising you but you have to revert back or your going to hell… MWOOHOOSH
When I was younger(9-11ish) and considered myself Christian, I was pretty confident when asked if I was going to heaven/hell so the thing that always frightened me the most was that my dad was an atheist so I always was terrified that when I died and went heaven I would hate it cause I would know my dad was in the worst place imaginable. Really glad you brought that idea up because I also remember pleading with my dad to change and praying for God to have mercy and it's hard for a kid to have thoughts like that.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
I remember having that but reversed. My dad said that in heaven we wouldnt remember the members of the family when in heaven. Later it was beought up in convorsation w my mom and she said 5 year old me was crying and i kept saying "daddy told me you were going to hellll"
@@Fishiest i had a very similar experience
"Mistaking my inner monolog with a dialog"
Great way to put that.
It was a pleasure joining you on this journey, my friend.
Pseudoscience and Gay-Hate shake-hands in the USA.
Pseudoscience has a Growth-Spurt right-now cause the Conservatives funneled Money into it to harm LGBT+?
I wanna raise Awareness so i comment this.
Yeah, this is happening: A massive Slander-Campaign against Trans People that Professor Dave Explains and Planarwalk try to oppose, but thats hard.
Please inform yourself and choose the not-hateful side in a giant War on Trans-Peoples Human-Rights, led by a guy who politely requests a re-classification of an entire Minoritygroup as ‚mentally-ill-by-default’ (!!!) and is at War with Professor Dave now.
After denying Christianity when being raised in it in my entire life I’ve never felt so free and at peace with myself and everyone else. Its quite literally an indoctrination.
This is how I always describe how it feels after deconverting. Free and at peace. Those exact words. Christianity and most other religions are extremely toxic. It's crazy to think we just rolled with it for so long. I look forward to a future with less religion.
I will pray for your conversion. Ave Christus Rex!
@@sarahowens5332 I think that’s why a majority of newer generations deal with a lot of anxiety and depression. We’re all trying to navigate the world and our existence without religion. We’re essentially pioneers navigating this new path. For far too many generations societies have used religion to a problem that most likely will never be solved. There is comfort to know that we might never know the answer of our existence but at least we know we’re not living in a lie.
Don’t worry the Antichrist is coming….
@@Ty-wf6mg That's the common Christian opinion - that people would be less depressed if they believed in God. Couldn't be more wrong. We just live in a society that isn't design for human well-being. We value money, success and effectivity more than anything else. Wars(initiated be Christians, mind you) left our parents and older generations traumatized in a way they couldn't do anything about it except for suppressing it and I mind you - older generations are very religious. They are not any more mentally healthy than us. All they could do at their time was suck it up and go on. We, on the other hand, have information and therapist available. And with therapy there's much more peace than with some stupid gods. Christians are just full of opinions. Every single Christian has their own version of Christianity in their head and that's why there's such a chaos. That's why there's like millions of Christian sects. I can say one bullshit that a Christian said to me to another Christian and he'll said it's bullshit, because he "feels it differently". Guess what. Everyone feels it differently. I'm at peace with thinking that there's no god and no malicious Christians go to heaven while I, while trying my best at being a good person, go to hell cause I wasn't really sorry after doing something minorly wrong, or not believing in god.
Thank you so much for making this content. I've been out of the church for a few years and I still get little bursts of anxiety even though I stopped believing a while ago. This video was really helpful.
You don't have to believe. Christ showed everyone how to live and God gave the commandments as rules to live by. The whole bible isn't about how to get into heaven. It's about how to live morally, ethically, equally and kindly amounts your fellow mankind. Jesus healed the sick, fed the hungry, helped slaves. When he said through me you get to the father. He meant, take my examples of how to treat and live with and around others. THIS IS THE WAY. Just be kind, considerate, helpful ECT. The bible isn't a guide to get into heaven, it's full of lessons on how to live a pure life. Don't live this way, just to gain personal assurances to the Afterlife. Live this way, because it's the humane way to live, it's that simple. Forget belief....just live with heart.enrich your soul and even more importantly, enrich others. ALWAYS HEART (belief or no belief)💜
Check theraminetrees channel on UA-cam. He is psychologist, atheist and he is making videos about recovery from religion.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Oh man, I remember "rededicating" my life to god over and over because I was terrified of hell, and also feeling incredible anxiety over the responsibility of saving my friends from hell. Glad to be free of that
I'm sure your friends are as well XD
You are not alone in that feeling.
@@Dontreallycare5 dude, yes. They were all very relieved when I just chilled the eff out
@Michael Lochlann I was the same. Or if I felt something, it never lasted
as condescending and entitled christians often come across in their "pls repent Jesus loves you" speeches I kinda feel like i realise how maybe they r jus really scared sometimes, not forming any moral high ground. i definitely think it depends individually but yr experience made me think differently i guess it's genuine worry and anxiety rather than trying to tell you what to do all the time
so incredibly predatory and psyche damaging to instill this idea into our brains often when we hardly have autonomy
Here is my story. I was born into the southern baptist community right in the middle of the Bible Belt here in Alabama. My Paw Paw and my entire family has always been close with God. When I was about 6 or 7 I had just gotten out of school one day and I had a feeling pulling me to getting saved. I was Baptized about a week or two later. Out of all the moments of my life that’s the only time I thought I felt a genuine connection to God. After that it all fell down hill for me. You see throughout my life I was always taught that you need to be in a church pew on Sunday mornings and to try to be at every church function possible. I never really thought the Bible was all that interesting personally but I was taught it was the best book and if you disagreed then it was basically a sin. I found the services so boring that the only thing getting me through was waiting to go out to eat afterwards. It wasn’t until I was about 10 or 11 but my church was showing a movie about the rapture and the end times. Keep in mind I was not aware of this and my first exposure to it was this movie. I was absolutely horrified and scarred and I basically lived the next few years wondering if it was going to happen if I was saved enough to go to heaven. The only consolation my family offered was if your right with God then you have nothing to worry about. That’s the thing, how was I supposed to know if I was right with God? I prayed and prayed but nothing seemed to put my mind at peace. During my teenage years up to when I was 21 I attended a youth group with friends at a different church and truthfully the only reason I went was because of my friends. I heard the same dogma over and over again from the old youth pastor and it left me feeling indifferent to things. At this last Easter I remember an aunt of mine who’s a “true Christian” say “If you dont have God in your life then your miserable”. It wasn’t said to me, it was just being tounge and cheeky. Basically in closing, this year I have really questioned my faith. I wouldn’t say I’m a Christian anymore because it seems like Christians today would be an embarrassment to God with their behavior. I do think there is something out there greater than us. I guess what I’m trying to say is that, I want to believe in God but I just can’t since the evidence doesn’t add up. Thank you for those taking to time to read this.
Hey Dan just read your comment and after reading the last part I understand how you feel. I want to believe as well but it almost feels impossible especially with everything that's going on in the world today especially with Russia and threat of nuclear war and people saying oh God will never let that happen but humans are crazy and I don't think any supernatural whatever is going to stop (or even cares to want to) a crazy person from launching nukes or if this so called god actually enjoys watching the world suffer. I mean there's a UA-camr by the name of Morgue and that's how he looks at the god of this world(a war god) and sometimes I don't think he's too far off. I mean if you really look at the world that we have today things aren't getting any better they're only getting worse and it seems the worse it's getting maybe there's more enjoyment and seeing that happen. That's just my two cents on everything anymore. Maybe I'm wrong I Don't know all I know is but it comes to an all-powerful being I don't know what to think anymore.
Thank you for sharing. Remember that belief in a higher deity does not have to be moderated by a third party (ex, Jesus) I wish you luck in the exploration of your faith.
@@jessicaclakley3691 Thank you.
Man will always let you down but Jesus Christ will not. You must be born again which means supernaturally changed by God, where the invisible burden you're carrying is lifted off of you and you're filled with the Spirit of truth. Ask Jesus to show you the truth. Sadly, you probably won't find it in a church in these times. God bless
What evidence doesn't add up?
You should have titled this, "Atheist literally goes to hell and... It's not that bad,"
@@dorianxanyn That's Mean I'm An Atheist And Anyway Hell Dosen't Exsist
@alicehodges9964
I'm an atheist too. It was a suggestion for an alternate title, he literally said in the video "it's not that bad" or something to that effect
@@dorianxanyn Well That's One Of The Reasons I'm An Atheist Religion Is Confusing The Songs Are Annoying
When I hear the words “child abuse” I immediately think of the physical torments inflicted on children by clergymen - and of the mental torture that so often follows. But now, having heard you describe the hellish tortures directly injected into your brain by church teachers, I know for sure that “child abuse” encompasses a far wider category of criminal wrongdoing.
The physical abuse is against the law and will hopefully be punished if found out, but what about the constant and nearly universal mental abuse inflicted on children by the church? Can we hope that one day this torture of the innocents will also be deemed a crime?
As horrendous as I agree the idea of hell is, I don't think telling children about it can be considered children abuse, because the parents believe it to be a real risk that they're saving their children from. It's not child abuse to teach your child not to run into a busy street. The fact that we don't believe that threat to be real doesn't change the fact that those parents do believe it. If the government passed a law saying you could no longer scare your kids by telling them they'll be run over if they run into the street, you'd be rightly concerned. If the lawmakers try to tell you the traffic on the street is only a hallucination, that would understandably not change your mind.
They plead innocence through ignorance.
The God who supposedly inspired the Bible-left it alone to fend for itself after that. He is supposed to be an all-knowing God who can see the future.Which means he should have seen the mental and physical torture the words in "His book" would cause-and the wars,the slavery,the misogyny,the child abuse,etc. So,apparently,he saw the results of "His Word" down through the centuries but let it happen anyhow. I'm glad he doesn't exist!! Because he would not be worthy of worship.
Child abuse is completely wrong, but hell will feel like torture but it’s only what you deserve! And since most Westerners have not experienced much pain, that’s why it’s gonna be torture!
The Bible is corrupted, no longer the word of the almighty
The real book of revaluation is the Quran
I’m only a teller of truth to you
You videos are awesome. I was raised fundamentalist evangelical in Tampa Bay, FL. homeschooled through high school. I've been Atheist (just meaning I've seen no proof of higher powers and don't waste time thinking about it anymore) for ten years now but because I was indoctrinated from birth I still struggle with stuff like this sometimes. Especially when my family is still devout. Anyways, I appreciate your content 😍
Same here. I'm over 65 and these videos are helping me many many years after I deconstructed on my own with the help of a Carl Sagan book Dragons of Eden.
Tampa gang💪💪
Indoctrination kills belief in truth. You can't inherit belief. Your parents can't give it to you. You have to seek out truth for yourself.
I was raised as a Jewish atheist. I had to find out if what my folks taught me was actually true.
I'm glad you're seeking. And look at the claims of Jesus too that believers in Him believe. We must look at ALL the data on ALL sides if we're to be intellectually honest.
If you seek truth without bias and allow for the possibility that Jesus is who He claims to be (John 14:6 as you know) then you are doing well.
Be well on your search! 🤗
Yes, it's hard to escape from early religious abuse. I didn't get the fire & brimstone treatment because Catholics are "discouraged" from reading the Bible and the priests and family may use the softer version of separation from God = torment. In high school I switched to praying to Scotty to beam me up. But I occasionally had "But What If" moments, especially after someone used Pascal's Wager on me. That stopped when I realized that it was a "forced Choice" not a realistic one. The forced choice is that you must choose God [Jehovah] or Satan or nothing. But what if the real God is Ahura Mazda, Tiānshū 天樞, or one of the thousands of other Gods mankind has created over the 50,000+ years of human existence? Once that barrier broke, I was truly free!
@@bytedude1312 The same. I'm 66. A large part of my life was wasted in the evangelical bubble.
As an almost 40 year old who was literally raised (my grandfather was a preacher so I was in church every sunday before I could sit up) in a proto- fundamentalist Missionary Baptist church, your channel is incredibly helpful and insightful. I have been deconstructing for the past 16-ish years (maybe longer). I struggled so many with so many aspects of "my faith" in my teens and early 20s and finally have determined that I cannot live in the fear of the church any longer. However, the fear of hell still plagues my nights. This video was relieving in so many ways.
An aside and addition to several other comments: pushing this cyclical fear of hell on children makes GREAT little tiny evangelist - now that I'm terrified of burning forever, and I have been told that not telling others puts their blood "on my hands" well guess where that goes? The evangelical churches just have generations of traumatized people filling its ranks.
But again, thank you for sharing your journey with your fellow apostates.
Legalism kills. Gods saving grace and love toward us is what matters.
King James Bible
"I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain."
Christ died for you and i while we were yet sinners. Do you know what that means? He didn't offer a 25 step program... he preordained works that we should walk in them yes, but works do not save nor keep us saved.
Ephesians 2:8
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:”
I think i have confused the blood on the hands thing as well, but if you look closely you will see that is to the Israelites. THEY are instructed to be a watchman on the wall for Israel, but we are not under the law, we are not in the O.T. Christ has ascended to the right hand of the Father. This began the age of GRACE.
The Gospel went out into the world since that time. Though it is right to speak the Gospel to people out of love. Amen?
John 13:34
“A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.”
@@EQOAnostalgia wtf
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Why did you end up leaving the church? UA-cam comments section is not a great place to talk at length but I'd like to at least hear the biggest reason.
@@fireandworms you know the verse that says (paraphrased) "by their fruit you will know them?"
Well, the fruit was rotten, imo.
These people were mean-spirited, hypocritical, racist, homophobic, transphobic. And it was all so subtle: "hate the sin and love the sinner." Or none of them would say they hate another race, but non-while people were not super welcome at the church and interracial marriages were frowned upon; I do remember hearing as a child that God made the races to be separate from each other.
There are probably 1,000 little things but just the mental gymnastics of selling hate repackaged as God's love and the Hell Theology are the biggest reasons.
I did my grad school at a seminary although I was never an ordained minister. I had a professor who was fond of saying "the Bible almost never talks about Hell, and talks even less about Heaven."
Lol, are you talking about the literal words "heaven" and "hell".
@@JohnDoe-fe9zx i think this guy probably knows what he's talking about lol
I must say, I really enjoyed everything about this trip, the presentation, content, and cinematography. Most of all the friendships you generously shared seamlessly within this video, I could hug each and every one of you. Stay safe.
Thank you! It really was an incredible trip
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic hi
I was raised Christian. I deconverted and have raised my son without religion. When it was finally introduced to him (by another person) he thought it sounded insane and it was weird that people believe these things. I've talked to him about religion's relationship with human social and scientific evolution. He's was single digit aged at the time but he's very grounded in what can be proven.
This is the Gospel of the REAL JESUS:
Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day. He shed His blood on the cross for you. Your part is to Repent of your sins and Trust in Him. BUT, you MUST Trust in the right Jesus! Otherwise you haven't Truly Repented! Are you trusting in the Jesus of the Bible? If not, then you are still in your sins!! And, in this situation, you will be cast in the LAKE OF FIRE, for ALL ETERNITY!!! Repent of ALL your sins and Trust in the RIGHT Jesus today and God will save you. He will grant you eternal life, not because you earned it, deserve it or because you are a good person, but because He wants to give you eternal life as a FREE GIFT!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. Accept it today!!! Tomorrow maybe too late!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
@Joe dirty71 because default state is no beliefs whatsoever. You're converted from no beliefs at all, to X belief. Ergo- deconvert when leaving. Regardless of the indoctrination through childhood it's still conversion.
@Joe dirty71 new atheist huh?
'Hurr de durr my idea is way more true than yours '
What? Lol your previous statement is nothing more than your opinion. Same with the one I'm replying to now.
As an atheist idgaf what you choose to believe about the default state of life. If you want to believe that you start off christian that's your issue.
Just know you're kind of reeeeeeeeee tarded for not realizing that the default state is no beliefs.
Beliefs are taught, not inherent.
@Joe dirty71 ok. Idk what the point of our disagreement really is, or why it matters, but, I still hold to the idea that if it requires indoctrination/teaching, regardless of how early it's done, that it's a conversion process.
An off topic example I'll use is like training a child soldier. They weren't born willing to lay down their lives for a cause. We wouldn't say child soldiers are being born. We'd say trained to be child soldiers. I use the same basic thought process when looking at belief.
I really feel like this is a totally pointless disagreement though. We may as well be arguing about whether the use of silent letters in English is a good idea.
**Note---- yes I know you're not saying 'born Christian' but I think, reasonably, that you understand my point, whether or not you agree
@Joe dirty71 I don't really think either of us are 'wrong' about it. We just see it differently. It's not like this point of disagreement is something that can be proven through math or science. It's all just opinion and interpretation.
I've been trying to rehabilitate my relationship with Christianity and the Bible, especially surrounding Hell and judgement, so this video is so helpful in reframing that perspective. Thank y'all so much for this!!
@ישוע הוא המשיח בן האלוהים we owe our existence to six inches of topsoil and the fact that it rains. what’s more holy than returning to the earth that bore us? death is not isolation; it’s total union with every soul that has been and will be - to die is to breath life into the universe. i have accepted death, and until it comes, i will find rest in the universe death and life have given unto me. find peace, and don’t despair.
Check out Christian Universalism, the idea that everyone is saved and it's much less of a toxic idea in my opinion.
Great, great video! Thank you to Jeremy, Derek, and Taylor.
Your videos are essential for people leaving religion behind. I feel so free since becoming an atheist, but I still get paranoid about some of the vile teachings I was forced to absorb. Drew, keep doing what you're doing. You do make a huge difference!
Freedom to do what?
@@DrownedinDesigner freedom FROM fear. To live and love the world as it is.
@@DrownedinDesigner Freedom from being controlled by people who simply want to control me.
The videos are essential for people leaving religion behind. And leaving religion behind is essential for people XD
@@DrownedinDesigner freedom to live in reality.
Drew I wish that you and everyone else traumatized by hell, finds peace. The park Gehenna was just beautiful. I was raised atheist, and it wasn't until I started watching UA-cam atheist videos and in the process learned more about Christianity that I found out what is taught to children and I couldn't believe it. I thought children got the age appropriate version of hell, but apparently not. I didn't know adults often remained afraid of hell in adulthood, were traumatized by it and often couldn't get over it. That is so sad and so wrong. I hope all of you find peace of mind.
I wasn't raised particularly religious as a child, but it was hard to completely avoid religion, and I inevitably absorbed some of the teachings, but I did start to have my doubts. However, my fear of Hell has never fully left me even after I stopped believing. I wish I didn't ever even have to imagine the concept of Hell, the idea that I could potentially be condemned to eternal torment by an all-powerful being if it was displeased with me. I believe the world would be a better place if every one was raised as you were. As you say, I hope everyone traumatized by religion gets to find peace.
I grew up in a mostly agnostic household and in fact, even had a great grandfather who was freemason. That being said, religion was still a big place in my childhood because my school was Catholic adjacent. We quite literally would pray the rosary three times a week and had a Christian Living class but didn't really do more beyond that. (It gets complicated but I personally think my mom wanted me to decide what I believed in but wanted a school that was religious enough for the family but still technically secular). Those factors made me question things more than others but it wasn't until I was around 14-16 that I just couldn't stop the questions anymore. No answer was satisfying and things just didn't make sense. I don't remember when exactly I said I couldn't believe things anymore but it was definitely sometime when I left college. Despite that I still have some fear of burning in hell because of one really big mistake I made that I still regret. So I think I never stop deconstructing.
@@bluz1864 I wish you the best, and hope you find peace and self-forgiveness. There are many quotes in stoicism and Buddhism about each day is a new day to try again, forgiving yourself because you're only human. There is a Buddhist quote something like there are no sins only mistakes which are forgivable and you can always try to correct them. I'm not a Buddhist, I'm atheist, but I find a lot of their attitudes helpful. One of my favorites is: if your compassion does not include yourself it is incomplete. Best wishes!
@@timscott6793 My best wishes to you. Find your peace.
@@timscott6793 I'm a Christian believer but I appreciate your comments. My preference is to seek an understanding of God as a loving God who created us. I respect how you feel and I hope the Creator guides each of us to a better understanding of His love for us. Peace
It kills me that my beloved daughter and son-in-law raise their precious children with the fear of hell. What can I do? Stay close to them and show a loving grandma who’s not afraid. I hope they learn the history of hell as you have described so clearly.
Even though the children are raised with a concept of "the fear of hell" ( depending on what they are taught ), I hope they are told about a loving God who created them. This may not tip the scales as you desire, but it could help psychologically as the children learn other aspects regarding God. Peace to you and the children....
No true beliver has fear of hell!!!
Show those kids this channel if they are old enough. There is alot of content here to dismantle the manipulative sides of theism. As far as i see, he isnt directly opposing of theism as well, even though he himself is an atheist. Just in case you wish those kids to still grow up christian (or whatever religion they are part of). This channel is amazing in countering the bad parts of religion without condemning the concept as a whole
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT´S A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
@Finn No inocent people will be in hell... Don´t worry about that...
Thank you for this. You have set my mind at ease!
I can't explain why, but I feel positively compelled to thank Taylor, Jeremy and Derek for devoting their time and energy into helping make this video.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
@@Robert-xp4bn nah that cant be it. maybe theyre communicating telepathically lol.
@@Robert-xp4bn What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
It's subliminable!
I've preached the whole, "It was just Gehenna, a valley outside of Jerusalem" thing for a while now, but seeing it and how serene it is... man that puts it into perspective. Thanks for the video, Drew and team!
Over time though, Gehenna made a career and turned into a place of post-mortem punishment, as evidenced by 4th Ezra, 2nd Enoch, the Babylonian Talmud, and then the Quran, where it reappears as "Jahannam", which is the Arabic word for hell.
As our sources are so sparse, it is hard to say, whether Jesus when speaking about Gehenna really only meant the valley or whether his Gehenna was already a transcendental place of post mortem punishment.
But it was not likely that serene in the time of Jesus. It was a garbage heap. Only years of disuse turned it into the park it is now.
@@chrisazure1624 wAiT rEaLlY?!
@@TheologyVGM The canaanites sacrificed children there before Israel took over. It was considered unclean land.
@@chrisazure1624 The whole story about the Canaanites sacrificing children to Molekh might by just another ideological invention. The archeological evidence strongy suggests that the ancient Hebrews themselves were Canaanites who migrated to the inland after the late bronze age collapse. The whole story of Joshua's conquest of the holy land which talks about the total eradication of hundreds of Canaanite towns and cities is total fiction whose likely purpose it was to create distance between the Hebrews and their Canaanite ancestors. So I would take this narrative with a big grain of salt.
"If you're an apostate in need, there are resources linked in the description."
It's cathartic even just to hear it worded that way. Thanks, mate. Good work, team.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
God is both merciful and just.
My friend is still trying to escape the beliefs of her cult after 40 years of involvement, including an extreme fear of hell instilled in her from childhood. I’ve been looking for content about the history of the idea of hell to help alleviate her intense fear, so thanks for making this video!
Dantes inferno plays a big roll in the birth of the idea of hell
Your genuineness shines through. Thank you for passing along help for those of us healing from religious abuse. be well friends.
lol "religious abuse"😂 sorry for the trauma us Christians caused you.😓 Allow me to buy you Richard Dawkin's books to make it up to you my fellow "smart" atheist.
@@smokerx6291 ayo don’t talk shit in the comments your leaders have been pedos for two thousand years
@@smokerx6291 I'd really appreciate that. Should I give you my address in hell for the shipping?
@@eddaeugenianewball5080 No mam, our evolved apes and monkeys will deliver them to you.
I left churches because of being condemned for my disabilities.
Thank you, and please make more videos like this. God bless you.
I can't even imagine how devastating this horror-myth of hell could be to children and their future life. I think, threatening children with hell is severe child abuse.
It's more complicates than that though. There's a whole cycle of abuse. If just telling a child about Hell is abusive, put yourself in the position of someone who believes in it, having been told the same scary story when you were a kid. Your options are: tell your kid about Hell no matter how damaging it could be, or let them actually go spend eternity in a place so bad that even hearing about it is harmful.
There's also the problem of admitting to yourself that it's harmful in the first place. It's easier to insist you grew up the same way and totally turned out fine, than to admit that you were mistreated by the parents you both instinctively love, and were at one point completely dependant on. So harming your own kids becomes a way to protect yourself from acknowledging that you were harmed when the same thing was done to you. You also see this pattern with more mundane forms of normalised child abuse, such as corporal punishment.
Organized religion is inherently child abuse
@@generatoralignmentdevalue But then the question becomes..why make more babies? If humans desserve to suffer and be punnished by default, and only the grace of god can save you, why would you create a new life on this earth doomed to deal with that same curse, with a chance of eternal damnation? From this pov, the very concept of making babies is pure pure cruelty. Dont bring forth new lives if they get burdend from the moment they take in their first breath. Loving parents becomes a paradox, because no loving human would even consider bringing a new soul on this earth with those uncertain conditions. There is a chance your child will doubt, believe other things. You want to risk creating a new soul just for the chance of it suffering forever? Why would you do that? What kind of sick people do that? Even if I fully believed myself, I would refuse to have children because there is no way to know for sure my child would die a believer. And there is no way I would want my child to suffer, regardless of what they believe. My love for this new vurnable soul that didn't ask for these harsh and unforgiving tests as well as my guilt for exposing it to possible forever suffering.. Even if I could go to heaven, I would not spend one second there at peace knowing the role I played in bringing forth suffering on this poor child of mine who failed to pass gods little confusing test. No. if you believe in hell, and you believe that all humans are doomed to go there by default UNLESS god saves you regardless if your good or bad, then if you ALSO make babies, your just psychopath.
@@generatoralignmentdevalue that's a pretty good answer
it is child abuse.
Awesome video. Growing as a JW we were taught about the mistranslation of hell from sheol and gehenna, and also the Greek translations of hades and tartarus. Side note; I remember hearing Dawkins saying teaching about hell to be child abuse, and even as an atheist I thought it was a bit of a stretch, but seeing how many years of torment you had to go through to get over that fear, maybe there's some merrit to that
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
@Get 2 oops, looks like *somebody* hasnt experienced severe religious trauma as a child before. yes, teaching young impressionable children that if you dont do exactly what a non-existent being wants you to do youre going to face genuine eternal torture and agony is mentally abusive. although im not catholic, im still struggling with religious trauma caused by me being a jehovahs witness as a bisexual trans man and being forced not to be my true self unless i wanted to die a gruesome death in armageddon and have my mom and sister live eternally and eventually forget i ever existed. i cant imagine how horrifying it must be for those who are taught about being eternally tortured while fully conscious by some oh-so-loving being, instead of just ending up dead and forgotten like i was taught.
stop invalidating people for dealing with a type of trauma you dont understand. its beyond sickening.
It's not a stretch. It's just that it is normalized so it's only evident from an outside perspective.
I find that people who grew up as JW would have less religious trauma than those who grew up as Pentecost, Baptist, Catholic etc. The beliefs of JWs are much more rational.
@@andreciagl I wouldn't say more, but instead a different way. Jw's are taught from an early age that anyone outside the religion is bad. You can't have outside friendships, even if your job has a bbq you can't go. And if you want to leave the religion, you have to be prepared to lose every friend and families member for the rest of your life. It's 100% in, or 100% out, 0 exceptions
What helped me overcome the fears of hell were the realizations I’ve had over the last ten years about he idea of hell being absolutely man made. Humans don’t enjoy being on fire, and all of the things that you could go there for are actually the essential things that keep civilization from crumbling, ie not eating too much food or not working enough.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
This is really amazing work. You're evolving into a filmmaker as well as a UA-camr. Thank you so much
Come on now, we all know film makers didn’t evolve!
The imagery of the real-life "hell" being this nice little grassy park is so beautiful. I could just feel myself being there and finally knowing that there is nothing to fear, and never was. Lovely video.
Why?? It was a place where human infants were turned into live burnt offerings to an idol with an oven for a belly. That's why Hebrew prophets turned its name around and used it as a metaphor for the fiery wrath of God consuming or immolating the wicked.
Would you hang out in the house where the Manson Family murders took place, or in Hernry Mudgett's "Murder Castle", or Jeffrey Dahmer's pantry, and say "What a peaceful place!"
But notice I said "consume", not "torment eternally". The Hebrews did not believe in that; how could they, when, according to them ,God alone is immortal and lives forever, while human life is contingent on the breath in our nostrils?!
Greeks and Romans however followed Plato and the wacky ideas he picked up in Egypt, such as the silly notion that when you die, you leave your body as a disembodied something and go somewhere. Then they got hold of the Bible, tried to make it fit that when it doesn't , broke both things trying, pureed the fragments together, and gave us the non sequitur smoothie we get served by the religionists of today.
As for fear: the whole point of Christianity is that there IS nothing to fear, and never really was. Jesus is "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world'; your sins were paid for before you ever committed them. Christ assumed your position as condemned sinner so you could assume his position of righteous son of God with eternal life ; so accept the position. There's no threat of punishment hanging over your head, so stop fearing. But don't neglect to cash in the winning lottery ticket you've been handed either.
@@Nunya_Bidness_53 Calm down bud
well it wasnt always like that. Gehinnom is where the bodies of criminals and vagabonds were thrown. it was a wasteland full of bandits amd treachery back then.
Plus there is also a place known as Sheol in the torah which is the ACTUAL "underworld" that existed as a cave that went under the earth for the dead souls to dwell. Basically gehenna was Tartarus from greek myth and Sheol was "Hades" the regular underworld.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
@@scleless1342 Hades was the god of the underworld
Despite being an atheist since I was old enough to give it any real consideration I have always had an irrational fear of hell. This is the effect of consuming a lot of horror movies and books based on Christian, mostly Catholic, concepts of evil.
It is not surprising that writers start with religion when trying to scare us. If the scary story is part of your culture it takes on a personal dimension,, an old story with new teeth. I watched The Exorcist when I was 10 and it brought Hell into focus as the origin of evil and terror. Hell had set up shop in my psyche and the possibility of its existence was hard to shake.
I used to have dreams where I was the exorcist, fighting some demon, usually with the lords prayer. We had to recite it until grade 7, so they were the only words of religious significance I knew. Eventually these dreams changed, the demon became the creature from Alien, then zombies. The feeling stayed the same but the setting changed, my hell was still the source of whatever scared me. A fiery abyss with demons,a spacecraft with a monster, a post-apocalyptic zombie land, they are all Hells, sources of existential horror.
These days I see Hell and Heaven as equally terrifying concepts. Hell for its torments, Heaven for its loss of individual identity. No eternity can be faced by a rational human mind, so both concepts have been relegated to a deep mental basement, referenced only when writing long UA-cam responses to escape the mental indignities of MassTransit. Hell is other people, and they are all on this bus.
Why do you say "heaven" is a concept that leads to "loss of individual identity"? I've never heard such an expression by anyone. But I do respect how you feel. I'm just curious as to what you meant? Peace
I don't agree with your view of heaven. Heaven is supposed to be a place where one is "One with God" for eternity without the taint of sin. The idea of people being turned to mindless sheep babbling worship to an almighty being in the clouds infinitely is a caricature that must not be used in serious discussions about hell and heaven.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 it has to do with the concept of eternity. I can't think of any state of being that I would want to exist in for an infinite amount of time. Most concepts of Heaven revolve around either material or earthly pleasures, I call this the 'paradise ' model or being eternally fulfilled by existing in the presence of God, I call this the 'completion ' model, aside it represents the completion of our incomplete selves by being in the divine presence. The paradise model seems based in wishful thinking and I don't give it much consideration. The completion model assumes we are incomplete without the divine presence and heaven is a union of sorts to complete us, we then spend eternity as a part of the divine. It's solves certain problems with an eternal afterlife because as a part of the divine you would take on the timeless aspect of God. If you become a facet of a timeless being, can any part of you that formed in your temporal existence be relevant, or even present? You would certainly not still be yourself, your individuality would be like a drop of water joining the ocean. Beats singing praises for eternity, but that's just me.
These thoughts were a large part of my taking a more gnostic view on souls and God and a shift to atheism rather than being agnostic. Hope the answer was interesting, it's the first time I have put my thoughts on the matter in writing, so thanks for asking the question.
@@pureone8350 Actually, if you believe what you say, you agree with my view of heaven but have no problem with it. Being "one with God and wirhout sin" doesn't leave much room for identity. At the very least ones nature is significantly altered, presumably taking on the timeless nature of God. I said nothing about "mindless sheep singing praises forever" which I consider as ridiculous as the paradise described by some apologists. As I don't believe in a soul the difference is irrelevant to my overall views, but you might want to respond to what people actually say, not what you assume they meant. The other person who responded actually asked for clarification, any reason why you didn't?
@@pureone8350 We as humans can understand the difference between good and bad because of one simple reason and that reason being we have something to compare it to. In theory, heaven doesn't sound terrible. The huge *but* comes, however, when you realize that the human mind isn't structured for a stagnant eternal existence. If you don't lose your mind as it exists now when you go to heaven, it means eventually the good things in heaven will become terrifyingly repetitive, annoying, infuriating, etc. Nothing is forever perfect in grand amounts, not even the good things in heaven. So eventually, even if it takes a long time, you will start to become numb to what's good because your human mind will make you so accustomed to it you'll seek change in any way it can. That's why the concept of heaven as it is in the bible is flawed, no single human being can stay sane there for all eternity because you see heaven as an amazing place now considering the circumstances we live in on earth, but it's a whole different thing hypothetically being there for long. Now the concept changes entirely if your mind changes when you get there, which is terrible in and of itself
Thank you so much for this. My childhood was very similar to yours. Even today the thought of hell still terrifies me and has led to severe moments of anxiety and sleepless nights. This video is one amazing step on my way to healing from the constant terror I experienced as a kid. ❤️
You may try JK Rowling's recipe from the third volume in the Harry Potter series. Start associating hell with something ridiculous.
As someone raised Unitarian Universalist, the whole idea of hell is wild to me. Like Derek, I didn't need to be scared into being a good person, nor did I have to be enticed with rewards like heaven. My church taught me that being a good person and treating others with kindness was the right thing to do because we're all in this together. What happens in the life I have now is more important than what may or may not occur after it ends.
Edit: Also had to watch the part at 14:59 multiple times to read all the painting commentary, because that was great. And thank you to Taylor, Jeremy, and Derek!
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
I agree that hell doesn’t exist and is not necessary for anything other than demonic benefit and destruction of good things, but you’re not a good person and neither is anyone else. If you wanna continue in this delusional thinking, the train of reality that shows you just how evil and scummy you are will only hit you harder. Any form of ego and self-righteousness is pure myth and stupidity. Either humble yourself now or learn the hard way like everyone else older and wiser than you. Good luck.
Looking back it's unbelievable that adults teach this stuff to their kids. I was constantly paranoid about ending up in Hell as a child. I wouldn't even say my church was big on the fire and brimstone teaching but the few times Hell was mentioned it stuck with me and captured my imagination because how could it not?
YES. This is the cruelty of it. I made the mistake of dating the daughter of a Pat Robertson devotee and prayer phone volunteer. She started feeding that crap into our daughter when she was just a couple of years old... without telling us! One day after I picked her up from visiting, she began crying and saying that she was going to be in hell soon. When I objected, she began a campaaign to break up my marriage and take my child from me. These people are LOONS who will stop at nothing because they think their god is on their side. Of course he is... their god is themselves!
The manipulative nature of religion is indeed disgusting.
Hey, I’m still petrified about hell lmao
Hell is nothing more than the winter season. At one time the year was divided into winter, spring, and summer (like in the three sons of Noah/Terah (Earth).
I was Methodist and feel that. Even how much they weren't fire and brimstone either they certainly believed it. As an adult hell has become such an important argument against Christianity. I like Jesus in general, but his father would send me their for being an Agnostic Deist.
Thank you Jeremy Derek and Taylor. You do a great job making Drew look professional and the videos top notch. And jeez making Drew look like that good must be a *lot* of work. kudos.
Facts
Bro could have thanked the crew without back-slap dissing Drew, but today bro chose violence 😢
24:54 anyone notice the tiny annotation at the topright corner "sub to jeremy or else" ? lol
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
@@pranavflame Real men take back-slaps with pride.
I grew up in a Catholic town to divorced parents. Kids used to taunt me that I was going to hell because I wasn't Catholic and my parents were divorced. I was never religious but hell scared the shit out of me and the incident left trauma on me. I have already sent this video to friends of small kids who live in religious towns. If I saw this video as a kid, I know I would have been soothed.
You don’t go to hell for not being Catholic, that’s what the Catholic Church did in the medieval ages to convince others to go to church. You will only go to hell if you reject Jesus.
Drew, what a great video. I renounced my Catholic faith over 30 years ago, and one of the first things that caused me to question it was the idea of being eternally tormented for finite crimes by a merciful, all loving god. But going to the source really drove the point home, and I'm glad that it helped you in your journey. Thank you for your hard work and perseverance.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Up this one
The great Baptist preacher Charles Spurgeon agreed that our sins are finite in themselves but are against an infinite Holy God
Hell isn't some place where God purposefully torments us. He loves us and because he loves us he wants our love to be real. If he forced us to believe in him and love him then that wouldnt be real love. So he gives us a choice, either believe in him or don't believe in him. Hell is the absence of God, so i you don't believe in him you go to hell.
@@xevenant7343 have you watched any part of the video at all
And that choice youre talking about, is not a choice. If a human wpuld do this it would be a human rights violation.
I've been to Hell, Michigan a few times. While the weather was sometimes inclement...it seemed like a nice little place, on the whole. Thank you Drew, Taylor, Jeremy and Derek for all your work producing quality content. I learned quite a bit today.
Oh hey! That's not too far from where I live! Lot's of lakes, horseback riding and camping there. Probably not a destination spot if you aren't local, but not bad to drive through or have a day trip. I wonder how much it costs to live in Hell? Ann Arbor is getting pricey.
@@SayuriAsahina Now Ann Arbor...there's somewhere more akin to the mythical Hell.
I guess you can say you've been to He'll and back 😂😂
There's a Hell in Norway. I'm told it freezes over from time to time.
This was genuinely helpful since officially leaving christianity ~5yrs ago. This video is at least a good starting point to finding peace and I'm absolutely getting that book you mentioned at the end because I need more haha. Thank you for making my Saturday a bit better :)
I was surprised that this hit home for me, despite never being religious. It reminded me of seeing my ex again five years after a traumatic relationship. Intellectually I knew I was safe, and we had changed, but worries about meeting her again kept me up at night. It took seeing her again to know in my heart that the monster is not real. I am so happy that you got to walk into "hell" and see the same.
This was the first domino to fall for me, and they've continued to fall. Very interesting video!
The fact that Gehenna is now a beautiful park, almost seems a sign of healing to all those terrified by hell. A beautiful and graceful rebuttal of that dogmatic lie.
Gehenna is now beautiful, but back then it was truly hell with wars
not really a rebuttal to me because hell to me is when one willfuly sepreates themselves from God eternally not the literall evangalist hell that most people are taught and it is painful because you are rejecting the source of all joy, good and life and hence rejecting erternal joy, life and goodness.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
@@Robert-xp4bn How is what they said foolish?
@Finn Hi there, random guy a month later whose opinion you didn’t ask for here. If he were purely and only benevolent, fair argument. But God is perfectly
holy. He literally cannot stand in the presence of sin. If we ascended to Him in our current state, we would be obliterated.
Think about it. Why would a perfectly benevolent person allow the filth that is our sin to not only pollute his presence, but his kingdom? Heaven would just be a well-decorated earth if there were no hell for unbelievers. It would just be..the same lol. Rape, indigestion, TikTok, all of it. Forever. And I’m not saying that because I think believers are better and wouldn’t do those things. I’m saying it because believers have the promise of sanctification. Exaltation. The free, massive upgrade that we all need.
I think people who reject hell are just unable to accept the massive and polarizing scope of the battle between good and evil. Pure goodness is so good that it cannot tolerate a single speck of evil, because a single pinprick of light just annihilates them dark. It seems extreme to us, but we aren’t used to 100% pure anything. The devil has us convinced that we aren’t so bad. He has us convinced that hell isn’t a thing, and we believe him because it’s like “Dude I knicked a Snicker’s from the corner store and now I’m going to be set on fire forever?”
But God is so, so good that even the slightest offense cannot stand in his presence, or anywhere in his kingdom. If he were a human man, absolutely - what an A-hole way to act. But he created us. Saying it is wrong for him throw us in the incinerator because we aren’t good enough for him is like saying a kid can’t stomp out his own sandcastle. That kid has sovereignty over the sandcastle. We are just the sand (well, biblically, the “dust.” You get it). Anyway, if you made it this far, applause lol. Cheers and blessings to you
Thank you for making this. You’ve been an instrumental force in my deconstruction and have helped me all but skip the “angry atheist phase” by watching you engage charitably and calmly with others.
The moment where you told a stranger that you are making a video explaining that hell isn’t real was such a nice moment.
As someone who became an atheist about a decade ago, I'm so glad you had someone to help you skip the "angry atheist" phase. I wish I had someone to help me avoid that, but in addition to becoming an atheist I had to attend church for 3 years while living with my parents after college and having to pretend to still be Christian. I despised Christianity for a long time and only in the last few years have I started to heal from the trauma and I'm through the "angry atheist" phase.
I'm a Christian believer and I am also trying to "engage charitably and calmly with others", no matter what worldviews/beliefs they hold. To me, the truth about God is that He is a loving God who created us. I think Jesus came to deconstruct the concept of a "warrior god" and the idea that "God is a monster."
Peace to you
@@jessicawilson1751 Do you mind if I ask, what is the "angry atheist' phase"? Peace
@@johnbrzykcy3076 basically I despised anything Christian related. I judged people for being Christian, thinking they were idiots because "how can they believe that bullshit". I was indoctrinated since I was in diapers, and losing my faith when it was so foundational to my identity and everything I believed for about 20 years was really traumatic. And the feeling that I had no choice in my belief system because Christianity was forced upon me with thinly-veiled threats of hell cloaked in "we love you so believe what we believe so you will be eternally saved". I didn't get to "choose" anything, there was the illusion of choice and as a kid you want to do what makes your parents happy because you trust your parents are right.
@@jessicawilson1751 How has life been since becoming an atheist? From my experience, many of those who claim atheism aren't honest enough with themselves to fully embrace the nihilism that evidently springs from it but instead remain in this gray zone where they don't have to acknowledge their existential despair. Kind of like covering your ears and eyes and marching through life.
I once heard a great joke, where the person said that, "The Only Reason that Hell became a thing is because Catholics were utterly terrified of any place hotter than Italy."
I suppose the Middle East would fit that rather seamlessly, too.
It healed something in me to hear a group of other people talk openly together about their experiences with hell beliefs/fears 😭
I remember trying to talk to my then christian friends (including family) about how cruel the idea of hell was to me and how i couln't get over the fact it supposedly existed, while the eternal suffering never appeared to me as an explainable necessity in the first place, despite being indoctrined since my very childhood. I also remember the frustrating answear that I was given and that was breaking my heart every time. The answear was: GRACE. It was the grace I was supposed to focus on. Be grateful that God, the good and holy God, saved me from this suffering I as a human deserved. No. This is not "good". Nor is it "holy". I am 21 now and it's been a couple of years I made the courageous decision to let myself disbelieve what I had already deep inside disbelieved. I remember then feeling extremly lonely and guilty, came down with depression. I remember when I finally found your channel, it provided me with great comfort. Thank you for helping a teenage me
I'm glad you started deconverting in your early 20's. It took me until my late 50's.So much wasted time and life. Anyhow,peace and well-being to you for the rest of your life.
How do you reconcile the concept of evil?
Hell is NOT man made, it never has been. People of all belief systems have been there in their spirit and come back. They all know it's real when they come back. While many will seek healing bc of the trauma it may cause, it's even worse to be lied to and realized when we enter the spirit that you were wrong. Too many people have been to hell in their spirit. They describe it sometimes with tears in their eyes in very close detail to others. There was an expedition also to the core of the earth by scientists where they were so sure they heard screams like they've never encountered. The dug into the core of the earth, where many say hell is in the spirit world. Some of the scientists were so freaked out that they stopped the project..While thinking of such a place can cause a lot internally, it's best to know such a place is real rather than molding a lie for yourself only to find out it is after we step into eternity. Just like prison and punishment is real here on earth, it's real in the spirit world, that's what hell is, only a lot worse than on earth. Please, Jesus is real and so is the demonic..I assure you, it's all real, heaven, hell, the spirit world, there are different places. Sin causes the soul to sink and belong to those who own sin, which is demons..They invented these things bc they knew God, they knew His nature, and they know what He dislikes and what separates humans from Him..
I had a christian classmate who broke down and cried once. When she was asked why she cried, she replied; I think it's so sad that all of you lovely people are destined for hell and I can't meet you all again in the afterlife for I'm going to heaven. This was not in kindergarten, this was a 20 or so year old art academy student. Religion is poison. Don't drink the kool aid.
Arrogance will be her downfall. If you believe your going somewhere better than everyone else, then your already looking down upon others, instead of doing as Christ did.....to treat each other as your equal. She feels she doesn't have to earn her place because just her belief alone will get her there. A common mistake. Your actions will be your judgement. You can follow a belief, but if your not actively practicing, your not really advancing your soul. Plus if you only do good deeds for personal gain later, this too will stunt your spiritual growth. Christ said, through me you get to the father. Wat he meant was.......look at my actions, i have helped heal the sick, feed the hungry, helped the slaved. Many more miracles. That in actual fact were just good deeds of humanity and kindness. This was his message. True people of GOD do good for no personal end goal. They do these deeds because it's the moral thing to do. She condemned you all, yet there is only one true judge.....GOD. you don't have to believe in religion, in order to take it's lessons and put them into practice in the world. Just have a good heart and nurish and nurture your soul as well as others around you. For no other reason than it's the right way to live alongside your fellow mankind. I hope this helps. Always lead with your heart💜
Condemning the so-called 'damned' is something that I trully am aggravated like seriously, this is a sly way of guilt tripping people. Pushing their emotions by means of controlling them is just- no.
@@Sam-zu5mr so what comes from the judgment? If you do good actions and lead with your heart?
@@middleDZ forget "the judgement"...if you only act with heart and kindness because you think after death you'll go to a better place......then your only doing it for selfish reasons. You should lead with your heart because it's the right thing to do. Act without witness or reward. It's all that counts. 💜
@@Sam-zu5mr counts toward what tho? Isn’t doing it because it’s “all that counts” still just me doing good so IM good? (I don’t mean for that to seem condescending, I’m genuinely asking)
Drew, thanks so much for this video. I'm an old man now, going in 78, and my time on the planet is nearing its natural end. I'm embarassed to say that although I'm an atheist, I can't quite shake the fear of going to hell. The funny thing is, unlike you, I was not raised in a fundamentalist family and church. I attended Sunday school at the local mainline Congregational Church (now UCC), where the word hell was hardly mentioned. My mom was raised as a Southern Baptist, but dropped it when she married my yankee dad as a war bride. She must have told me a few times that bad people go to hell and good people go to heaven. The point is, the fear of hell wasn't drummed into me at, home, but I picked it up "God knows" where.
Watching videos like this one and following various UA-cam bloggers like yourself have helped tremendously. The whole notion of a supposedly omnibenevolent God even creating a place like an eternal hell is ridiculous. Anyway, I won't go on with all the reasons why hell makes no sense - reasons you already know. With me, it's a battle between my rational intellect and my primitive fear of hell. I keep chipping away at that fear. I hadn't realized how much Plato's made up story about a hole in the ground and a hole in the sky got transformed in the hellenized Jewish world into what became Christian dogma about heaven and hell.
Anyway, I've gone on long enough here. Thanks for reading this. Your vids have been a big help to me as I struggle with my irrational fear of hell. I wish you and your lovely wife and all your friends and associates all the best in your respective journeys.
Check out a doctrine called Christian Universalism, I feel like that could suit you if you still wanted to pursue religion at all anymore. It's basically the idea that EVERYONE no matter what, is saved.
You saved me.
After I came across your channel I liberated myself with knowledge and thank you for suggesting the HEAVEN AND HELL book it is amazing!
For God so loved the world... he made Hell in case they didn't love him back enough....
Great video! I remember the time when I stopped believing in heaven, and more importantly, hell. It does take a while to quell those fears of eternal torment that were pounded into our heads as children. And the first comment from one adult close to me when I confided I no longer believed in God was evidence of that indoctrination: "You know you're going to hell, don't you?" My response: "Only in your mind."
I respect how you feel. As a Christian believer, I think God wants us to be compassionate and helpful to others. I can't judge anyone. I struggle myself with various doubts. But I do prefer to seek a loving God who created us and therefore He understands us. Peace
@@johnbrzykcy3076 I have no problem with any beliefs anyone has as long as they're not hurting themselves, hurting others, infringing on the rights anyone, or using them to set public education standards or laws. Other than these, enjoy your belief.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 And I also think indoctrinating children in any belief system is wrong. Telling children hell awaits them if they don't believe a certain way is tantamount to child abuse.
Heaven is real tho
Hell isnt
Thank you for this video. I actually just finished reading Bart Ehrman’s Heaven and Hell this morning. I feel I can relate to a lot of what you went through. I remember my youth pastor constantly saying “there’s a real place with real fire called hell” all the time on Wednesday nights, and it took me well into my 20’s to confront that.
The Catholic priest at the church I attended used to say in a loud voice, "there is a Hell... there is a hell" to the congregation. I prefer to seek and understand God as a loving God who created us. But I do struggle with various doubts. I wish you peace.
It always dawns on me that I've learned more about Christianity and its texts as an atheist than I ever did as a Christian growing up. I remember having such a huge fear of the things I'd hear about Hell, even having nightmares about hell as a child, but as an atheist, I find peace in knowing death is part of life and am no longer afraid of the fact that one day I will reach the end of my time. The things you can learn when you let go of the things you believe based on just being told. Hell, I've realized that I've read the bible more than most Christians I come across in my life. Some Christians will literally invent bible quotes that just straight up don't even exist.
Just 25 seconds in...the "still small voice"... man!!! I can't even count how many times my father said that to me when I was a child. Even after all this time and belief far behind me, those words will never fail to transport me right back. Thank you for everything. Your channel has always been a safe place throughout this long long journey ❤️
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
No matter how rational you are, no matter how much you know that hell is an invention. If you've ever been told about it as a child, you'll never fully lose the fear.
It's like a horror movie. You know that it's not real, but you're still scared. The difference is that hell is told as a fact, not a story and that it is far worse than any idea proposed in a horror film.
Pain is the worst feeling that exists. The idea of a place with the maximum amount of pain for the maximum amount of time is the most terrifying story that can ever be invented. It's a simple one, but an immensely damaging one.
I don’t know why I find myself not afraid of hell, but when I try to think about it, it is because even as a child I could never believe in those myths. Even though my parents tried their best to force my brain to believe in religion.
Hello Mr. DNA... I'm a Christian believer but I tend to agree with your comments. I remember as a young kid, the priest at our church saying very loudly to the congregation, "there is a hell... there is a hell."
I prefer to seek an understanding of God as a loving God who created us. That's my struggle.
Thanks for sharing. Peace
THIS
@@johnbrzykcy3076according to your beliefs god created the majority of people in history to only to send them to eternal torture beyond all comprehension. I don’t think most people would even consider that moral, much less loving.
Thank you to you, Jeremy, Derek, & Taylor. It’s comforting to know I’m not the only one that took hell seriously until well, most of my life. It’s something hard to shake the fear of, at the same time, I realize heaven doesn’t exist either & that kills me that I don’t get to see my lost loved ones again. It’s a hard pill to swallow. It’s like knowing your entire life that your parents are you parents & then finding out you were adopted, only worse. Idk it’s not a good analogy but it’s all I got at the moment. I guess it’s like knowing you’ll live forever with your loved ones only to find out you won’t.
The MOST IMPORTANT question of our lifes is: Where do we go, after death? Well, there are only two outcomes, HEAVEN OR HELL!!!
This is the Gospel of the JESUS CHRIST:
Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day. He shed His blood on the cross for you. Your part is to Repent of your sins and Trust in Him. BUT, you MUST Trust in the Jesus of the Bible!! You MUST BELIEVE the Gospel of Jesus!!! Because, IF you don`t, you will be cast in the LAKE OF FIRE, for ALL ETERNITY!!! Repent of ALL your sins and Trust in the RIGHT Jesus today and God will save you. He will grant you eternal life, not because you earned it, deserve it or because you are a good person, but because He wants to give you eternal life as a FREE GIFT!!! THIS IS THE TRUTH!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. Accept it today!!! Tomorrow maybe too late!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
This hit kinda hard tbh
A video I didn't even know I wanted - but I did, and it's inspired me to tell you all how a pastor broke my faith when I was 8 years old by showing me that Hell, Christianity, and adults in general were all bullsh*t.
I took to the Bible early, on my own, despite my family having no real religious involvement. The stories, the apparent complexity, and a system of rules really appealed to a nascent nerdy kid from a chaotic, broken home. I attended Sunday school, competed in Bible study, the whole nine yards. But the more seriously I took it, and the more I studied, the more the logical and philosophical inconsistencies we all know about became hard to ignore.
Hell, in particular, was a real problem for my young scientific mind. Some sources acted like it was metaphorical, others like it was real - was there fire, what if they like fire? How does it contain everyone, when there are more people all the time? These questions (not even doubts, yet) began to build until I began confronting my teachers about it on Sunday. Eventually, one of them got fed up and decided to use what he must have considered the "atom bomb" of child indoctrination.
It is a moment I've never forgotten, and I've literally never spoken of it before but always knew this moron, in underestimating a child's mind, basically jumpstarted my Atheism.
As I recall, he gathered me and 2 other kids (were they also 'hard cases'?) and took us down to the basement to what I as an adult know was the Boiler Room, and the furnace. He opened it and showed us all the fire inside: "There - that's Hell, that's where you're going to go if you sin."
Yes, it was noisy and hot and scary but in no way what I imagined as Hell. It simply wasn't worthy of the awe I felt about God.
That was it; My belief evaporated at once. I had built-up this magnificent, awe-inspiring concept of God and his world - it was all supposed to be bigger, grander, barely comprehensible by mere mortals. This jackass is showing me an overblown oven. I was no idiot, that's just an ordinary fire like regular humans make. It was like seeing Mall Santa Claus naked with his fake beard in his hand.
I was rudely awakened to the dishonesty of adults (and just, people) and - worse - to the flimsy, cheap, disingenuous reality of faith: "This faker doesn't even believe it".
I probably spent a few years trying to disprove this epiphany, but you all know how that goes -- the more sincerely your effort to prove it true, the more you will find yourself forced to accept that it was all, all of it, a lie.
Sounds like the guy was an idiot. But I’m interested to hear how that spiraled if you were so enthralled with it before you were told that specifically. Why wouldn’t you just write it off as “well obviously he doesn’t know what I want to know so I’ll ask somebody smarter than him?” Just curious.
@@traguna00 That's a good question, thanks! I remember crying at home about it, but I was the one 'weirdo' in my family getting into religion, so there were probably sighs of relief when I stopped going to church. I remember when people would accuse me later, as a teenage atheist, of "just being angry at god" (that old saw) so maybe I secretly harbored some resentment but it would've been toward human duplicity, not a character in a story I used to love.
What's funny is I took a circuitous route to secularism, basically hesitant to give-up this idea of "something magical", somewhere. I wonder how many others have to travel the same road? Maybe the God thing was BS but what about witchcraft? Astrology? Big foot, ghosts, transcendental meditation chupa freaking cabra you name it I tried it all haha.
But when yiu finally give up that quest for a delusion of "something more" and actually learn about the Real World - science - omg then you find the Real Magic! All of the complexity, wonder, inspiration I thought I'd find in god is actually real, in Evolution, Astronomy, Biology, my gods we can explain how sh*t actually works that's so amazing it moves me to tears of joy. We're amazing! I'm proud to be one of us. :)
I often remember this Douglas Adams line, when I hear theists claim that life needs god for meaning: "Why is it not enough that the lake in the forest is beautiful, without people demanding that there also be fairies at the bottom of it?" :)
This comments is filled w unfortunate childhood trauma but drawn out unnecessaraliy like fan fiction writers😂 hell is real and one bad experience w a teacher wont change it….
@@elvisii4220 Thanks I appreciate the literary criticism. But it wasn't traumatic, if I didn't convey how mundane and disappointing it was, then I failed. What I learned wasn't about hell - it was about people. ;)
That last statement
Growing up in a 3rd world country, I can say the emotional scarring was much worse. Even as a Christian, we were still threatened with hell if we do not live in a certain strict manner. I remember days as a 7 - 10 year old, weeping profusely, begging God not to leave me behind when he comes for his saints....... I was a child ffs.
Even worse when so many people were testifying about being shown visions of hell and would vividly describe the torments there.
By the time they're done doing this, you're so scared that you'll grasp at anything to avoid this place.
Then they talk of God and Jesus and you happily say the prayer to dedicate yourself to him to avoid the fires of hell. You want heaven because you don't want hell.
@@cWjkL8ysxOkrH66 wowwww
@@nellieken Yea, I remember experiencing this also
Nice to see a Nigerian here 😂, so what's your stand now?
Another Nigerian here. How una dey my comrades? 😂
Great video Drew! It's so nice to finally let go of hell - even though for me it was more like the way Taylor saw it: eternal separation from God. (It also helped that the more I learned what the bible says about God, the more "separation" sounded like a good thing!)
A gentle request: make text pop-ups last slightly longer - it's frustrating to have to replay to get the whole thing.
And finally, spelling: 'cemetery' - a bunch of E's; but not a single A.
Oh, and fun fact, the Muslim hell, Jahannam, is directly derived from the Jewish Gehenna.
What if this place is named after hell because of the atrocities that were happening in it, and not the other way around?
@@fleursdelilas9487 You would first need evidence that the idea of Hell not only arose first as Gehenna, but predated the place, of which there is none.
@@khunt5336
Most mythologies had the idea of hell. Not just abrahamic religions. And when was that place named. Can you give a precise date?
@@fleursdelilas9487 ... Yes, other religions have a concept that can be equated to Hell, but it only seemed logical that this Hebrew word would refer to a Hebrew concept. This complicates your question even more.
To be clear, your suggestion is that another religion created a Hell concept that infiltrated early Judaism such that they named said concept "Valley of Hinnom" in Hebrew, then named the park after this Hell concept that is entirely undocumented? Because that has even less evidence, to such a degree that it seems to make the date which the park was named irrelevant.
I don't think it's known when Gehenna was named because it occurred in literal ancient history, but without any prior documentation of the concept of either
a) Hell in early Judaism
b) Hell in some religion predating Judaism, which was subsequently stolen or adapted into Judaism such that it warranted a Hebrew name
this suggestion is not a meaningful one. I mean sure, you could believe it if you wanted, but why bother looking at evidence at all if you're going to make up a wild conclusion drawn from nowhere?
@@khunt5336
So I undestang saying that the Hell of the Jewish religion is named after that place or inspired from it is not based on evidence, since he can't say exactly which one was named first. And we can't know for sure.
For someone who likes to use science and logic and evidence, I think he made a poor job. Good thing he enjoyed the trip, at least.
I’ve always been afraid of being possessed, even though I consider myself agnostic. I think it just stems from a fear of losing control over my own mind
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT´S A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
I've never heard something so relevant. I always feel like I should be scared of something like this.
People probably thought schizophrenics were possessed by demons back in the day
@@lightningmonky7674 What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT´S A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Losing control over my own mind is my biggest fear. But not from possession. Watching "A Beautiful Mind" is like watching a horror film for me. The fear of not being able to trust my own judgement of reality -when you can't even see that you need help because your mind is inventing its own layers to your reality.
I’m dying over the editor’s message, I love all of you guys 🤣❤️❤️ thank you for all your hard work and it’s so important!!!
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
Drew - went to hell and back, and didn't even get your face melted off like in the Raiders of the Lost Ark.
This video was absolutely incredible - thank you for the effort you put into this!
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
What an absolutely superb piece of work, guys. I can’t praise this enough - being there added so much, the analysis, research and writing was utterly first class. I was never affected by the Hell Myth despite having a Church of England schooling. I was lucky enough to ‘reason’ that a loving anything would never allow that to happen. As I say I was lucky.
The clear and passionate motivation to create this and help people is a wonderful testament to your goodness, humanity and character.
This video is a spectacular step up in your careers, after a stellar beginning.
I am humbled by your clarity of thought and ability to communicate with the audience of people who are negatively affected by being raised in the same way you were.
Living in the Midwest I can see there is a great deal of healing needed, and the way you’ve tackled that with your talents is beyond what I could have imagined.
More more more, please.
Thank you !
confronting hell theology was crucial to my deconstruction, & healing childhood scars that this gruesome, traumatising mythology cut so deeply within me. i must say, i had already gone through much of this process before watching this video. however, this video is an amazing resource for anyone going through that process, & has provided me with more information to both reaffirm my disbelief in hell & better understand it’s origins. thank you so much drew ❤
The fact that so many people in the comments have such traumatic memories from their childhoods of being threatened with hell has made me realize that I probably never really believed that hell actually existed.
I was raised in a moderately religious family. My grandfather is a Minister. We went to church every week. I sang in the choir and went on church retreats. But it always felt like something I was SUPPOSED to believe in, not something that I actually did believed in.
I remember telling my grandfather that I didn't believe in Satan when I was 5 or 6. It seemed to me that Satan was just another movie monster, and I knew that those weren't real... But then I remember him telling me that if I didn't believe in Satan, I was saying that I didn't believe in God. I think that was the first time I realized that it was a choice, that some people didn't believe that God was real. Before that, I thought everyone believed in God.
I don't really know what I did or didn't believe when, I think it probably started to crumble around age 9 when I learned Santa wasn't real, but I know I tried to believe in something up until my mid twenties, but never really managed to buy it... That's when I finally gave up pretending to believe.
I relate to this a lot. I was raised Christian, and even though I hated going to church I never doubted the truth of God's existence because I'd never considered the possibility before. This changed when I got to middle school. At the start of the year, my school had a group of older students talk about their lives, and a few of them said that they were atheists. I reaction was "wait, that's an option?" After that, I started earnestly exploring the issue of god and religion and quickly came to the conclusion that it was BS. I've learned a lot more about both religion and the world since then, but every new thing I learn has confirmed that I made the right decision
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
John 3:16, 18
@@donaldlunara5653 Wow, that's really scary. Good thing it's fictional.
Hinduism,Buddhism,Nordic,Greek,Mayan, all have a hell. Don't delude yourself atheist you will be going there.
You're doing some important work with these videos. I was a terrified for the first 25 years of my life because I believed every word the church taught. I continue to suffer in countless ways and behaviors- a full decade after I lost all faith. So was the depth of my indoctrination. The trauma and panic (assembly of god, full-on hell fire and brimstone fundamentalist environment (without a reason to question all of the effed up lies that had been pumped into my brain since birth. Why would everyone around me be lying?) associated with the -always any moment- rapture and hell. The result was a very nervous, deeply depressed little kid. It's so evil to do that to people. When I finally realized the truth, it was devastating to my entire sense of reality. So much of my life could have been actually lived rather than believing that I was a hellhound sinner.
The MOST IMPORTANT question of our lifes is: Where do we go, after death? Well, there are only two outcomes, HEAVEN OR HELL!!!
This is the Gospel of the JESUS CHRIST:
Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day. He shed His blood on the cross for you. Your part is to Repent of your sins and Trust in Him. BUT, you MUST Trust in the Jesus of the Bible!! You MUST BELIEVE the Gospel of Jesus!!! Because, IF you don`t, you will be cast in the LAKE OF FIRE, for ALL ETERNITY!!! Repent of ALL your sins and Trust in the RIGHT Jesus today and God will save you. He will grant you eternal life, not because you earned it, deserve it or because you are a good person, but because He wants to give you eternal life as a FREE GIFT!!! THIS IS THE TRUTH!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. Accept it today!!! Tomorrow maybe too late!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Thank you Drew, Jeremy, Derek, and Taylor! There are far too few good resources for those going through deconversion and this particular topic is a rough one.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IS A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Where are the sources?? Can you at least name them. I think youtube deleted your comment because there were links.
This was like a full on documentary! Love the video Drew, and such an important topic to be speaking about. Thank you for your amazing work
Thank you so much for making this, I'm still getting over my fear of hell that was forced on me when I was a kid. This video helped alot
Quran [23:99] - [23:100]
(such is the state of the disbelievers) When death comes to one of them, he says, ‘My Lord! Take me back,
that I may act righteously in what I have left behind.’ ‘By no means! These are mere words that he says.’
And before them is a barrier until the day they will be resurrected.
Awesome job, Jeremy, Taylor, and Derek! And you, knowledge is the best way to get rid of fear. Just like when you see shadows in the darkness, if you turn on a light and see things for what they are, the fear is gone. Reality has not changed, but your understanding of it changes everything.
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
This is so good i created a playlist just for it, great job! this also helped me with my religious trauma! It’s a slow healing process but im really happy to know this. Thankyou so much
Link?
Religion student here! Just wanted to compliment your style and consistency in presenting all of this information. Like I was in a class with one of my favorite teachers, fantastic job :)
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
The way I was taught was that the "bad people" would suffer the torments described in Revelation and then be forever destroyed in the lake of fire. So I never really believed in a literal place of eternal torture, but it is still frightening to think about that. Thanks, Drew, for the great content. You've been helping me a whole lot with my deconversion. Peace!
Why be afraid of it if you don’t defend the evil you have done and try to improve? Those who are punished are those who refuse to admit fault; who, in their pride, cannot admit they have done things that are evil.
@@MatthewChenault But what evil have I done? I just want to live my life peacefully. Is that evil?
@@LeviAraujo01, have you envied the things others own? Have you lusted for the flesh of another? Have you let greed touch your heart? Have you done nothing when you should have done something? Have you let anger control you but for a moment? Have you taken pride for the things you’ve done and downplayed the credits others have done?
If you have done but an iota of those things, then you have committed an evil deed. Even a minor transgression is still a transgression.
No one is innocent of those things for our nature is that of sin. Therefore, it is important we admit to our faults - our sins - to ourselves, at least, or to those we’ve wronged.
To not admit fault is to condemn one’s self of their transgressions.
@@MatthewChenault Hm, okay then
Thanks jeremy, derek, and taylor (And drew) for putting so much work into the video
Drew: Let’s go on vacation!
Taylor: Where are we going, and why are we in this hand-basket?
And why does this road appear to be paved with good intentions?
And why is the sister city a place in Nevada?
Thanks to Jeremy, Taylor, and Derek for all your work and effort! And thanks to Drew for sharing so many things, and so many pieces of yourself with us. We appreciate you all, and speaking for myself, I know when I open a video here that it will be thoughtful, informative, and well structured. Keep on keeping on guys!
as I child was was brought up catholic, I remember my first confession and the priest telling us when we forget a sin and we die, we would go to hell. The hours I cried kept up all the family. Even they tried to ease me, this did stuck in my brain for years. Took me year as an adult (!) to leave that behind. Thanks for this insight!
Irish Catholic by any chance? I was brought up Catholic in Northern Ireland and the idea of Hell, while not being massively emphasised was touched upon on a regular basis and had a certain effect on me, that's for sure.
I heard Catholicism is the religion of the devil
“Thou shall not have any other gods before me”
Pretty sure catholicism heavily emphasizes worship of Mary
Surviving torture and agony as a young child, Hell never scared me. Real people in real life scare me. Knowing God will not protect you from harm no matter how hard you prayed or how good you try to be, there is so much suffering you can experience and still breathe air and your heart still beating.... for years hoping something will change, even wishing you would just die. Hell doesn't scare me. Reality does.
Thanks Drew, Jeremy, Derek, and Taylor for all the efforts you spent making this documentary ❤️
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT´S A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you repent of your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and have the guarantee of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow could be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
Your video really touched me, as a former devout believer going through similar scare tactics truly shaped my skepticism as an adult. I’m sure you’re aware of the documentary Hell House regarding this dramatization of conversion through scare tactics and having gone through one myself it saddens me the lengths some believers will go towards conversions. Love your video, would love to see you cover this documentary if you haven’t already.
The MOST IMPORTANT question of our lifes is: Where do we go, after death? Well, there are only two outcomes, HEAVEN OR HELL!!!
This is the Gospel of the JESUS CHRIST:
Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day. He shed His blood on the cross for you. Your part is to Repent of your sins and Trust in Him. BUT, you MUST Trust in the Jesus of the Bible!! You MUST BELIEVE the Gospel of Jesus!!! Because, IF you don`t, you will be cast in the LAKE OF FIRE, for ALL ETERNITY!!! Repent of ALL your sins and Trust in the RIGHT Jesus today and God will save you. He will grant you eternal life, not because you earned it, deserve it or because you are a good person, but because He wants to give you eternal life as a FREE GIFT!!! THIS IS THE TRUTH!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a New Heart and New Desires. Accept it today!!! Tomorrow maybe too late!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
I can't imagine growing up like this. My mom was religious and in her heart very devout, but she never talked about hell or tried to scare or threaten us. Church was a cheerful place for fellowship and doing good, the brand of Christianity there was optimistic and the people were mostly sweet and mellow, they were focused on salvation, not sin, heaven, not hell.
Sounds like an actual Christian church. They are rare indeed.
Sounds like the many C of E churches I attended. They left out the creepy nasty stuff.
I appreciate your telling of the ideas of ancient Jews. I was raised Jewish and was told about heaven and that we didn't exactly believe in it, and definitely didn't believe in hell. I was also told about what Christians believed, because I was raised in the bible belt, and had to come face to face with Christians daily. Sadly, most Christians I met were anti-semitic. I fought almost daily. At the age of 7, I began to think religion on the whole was all lies adults told children to keep them in line. The more I learned about religion and the more I began to realize adults believed the nonsense I was reading about, the more and more I began to realize it was all a fiction people told themselves because they feared death. I feared death too, but I feared it because I felt it was absolute nothingness. Just like before I was born, death would be the end. No conciousness, no afterlife, just nothingness.
"At the age of 7, I began to think religion on the whole was all lies adults told children to keep them in line." Then you got older, and realized 'oh shit, its not just about keeping *children* in line...'
It isn't just nothingness at death. I had a couple of NDE"S, I died for a couple of minutes and was not able to be revived. I was out of my body watching everything and then merged with a greater I AM awareness. It was more real and vivid than life as we know it on earth, as if earth life was the dream. We awaken into the fullness of Pure awareness, Pure unconditional love. It's almost like how we wake up from dreaming while we sleep and then we realize we were dreaming. We know we were dreaming and that our daily life is reality. At death, a similar thing happens. At death, we awaken as if out of a dream, into a greater reality than we could ever know while embodied. This has nothing to do with the brain lacking oxygen or dying. Our awareness expands beyond mind/brain/body. It is a quite astounding realization.
@@annemurphy8074 that's just your brain losing oxygen. It's a known, provable, thing. There is nothing after death. Sorry to burst your bubble.
You better get serious about it and read the forbidden chapter of Daniel 9! hell is eternal it was created for the devil & his angels But mankind will go there for rejecting Jesus as God.
Sin against eternal God, you get eternal punishment!
I know what I realized and it was very profound. You can't burst my bubble. Because of the NDE, I know who I really am.
I can’t describe how much ur videos are helping me heal from religious trauma. Ur deeply analytical and fact/history based approach brings comfort and clarity, especially regarding hell, as I have struggled with nightmares and fear for what seems like forever
Thanks so much
Hi! Great stuff! I'm a Christian-believer and so impressed with your work! I watch your videos from time to time to listen to your perspective and your experience! I'm familiar with the platonic impact on many of Christian beliefs and that in fact needs to be called out. Also I would say I take the apocalyptic view. That the promises in the old and new testament of resurrection to be bodily. I'm not here commenting to offer an argument. I just want to say I appreciate your academic approach and lack of a condescending tone that is present in so many other atheist speakers. This is very listenable. Keep up the good work. If everyone continues to ask good questions maybe we can together find might better answers
What does ETERNITY represent? IT'S FOREVER!! IT'S A LONG TIME!!
The question is, where will you go after you die and enter ETERNITY? Have you ever lied? Hated someone? Did you steal something? If you have committed any of these acts, in God's eyes you are a liar, a murderer and a thief! Under these conditions, you will spend ETERNITY IN HELL!!! But this is not God's desire for you. JESUS CHRIST died for you and rose on the third day. HE did this so that you would be forgiven of your sins and have a relationship with God. If you REPENT from your sins (turn away from them) receive and trust in JESUS CHRIST, you will be forgiven by Him and be assured of ETERNAL LIFE!!! The Bible says that God will make you BORN AGAIN. He will give you a NEW heart and NEW desires. THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! Do this today, before you enter ETERNITY!!! Tomorrow can be too late!!!
"Jesus answered him, I am the WAY, and the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT THROUGH ME." (John 14:6)
Thank you, I've left the religion behind almost two years ago now, and the fear of hell has been a particularly hard thing to work through, but hearing that Jesus himself didn't believe in the popular version of hell and what he was talking about is actually a pretty nice green park today helps so much
I’m so glad to hear that! ❤️
I think Jesus actually came to erase the "popular version" of hell and He taught about a loving God. I never really liked even the word "religion" but in my mind, Jesus was the best example of God's love.
Peace to you
Jesus sounded like an amazing person honestly would hang with him
I'm an ex-Christian (Catholic and then Protestant) who recently finished her conversion to Judaism. I still have a good impression of Jesus, however I've also realised how anti-Jewish the New Testament is. E.g. how it paints a purely negative picture of the Pharisees, which were the group that most likely evolved into today's rabbis.
@@onegoodlife
Have you ever read what the Old Testament prophets had to say about the Jewish people and their leaders?
It is not any softer than the New Testament.
I watched the collab with CosmicSkeptic. In that video you mention that you are similar and I admit, I thought that you were similar when I first started watching you too. This video really sets you apart though. You did exactly what you said you would do, combining experience with history and psychology. Bravo. You're in another league now
Pseudoscience has a Growth-Spurt right-now cause the Conservatives funneled Money into it to harm LGBTQ+?
I wanna raise Awareness so i comment this.
Yeah, this is happening: A massive Slander-Campaign against Trans People that Professor Dave Explains and Planarwalk try to oppose, but thats hard.
Please inform yourself and choose the not-hateful side in a giant War on Trans-Peoples Human-Rights, led by a guy who politely requests a re-classification
of an entire Minoritygroup as ‚mentally-ill-by-default’ (!!?!!) and is at War with Professor Dave now.
Gehenna looks like a good place for a picnic.
Agghh, beat me to it! lol.
Good way to cuss someone out though. "Go picnic in hell!"
Grab a few babies for the BBQ
@@presentfuture7563 lmao amazing 🤣🤣🤣
Of you visit in December, you might find it covered in a layer of snow. Snowflakes have some chances in hell.
Thank you Jeremy, Derek and Taylor for the hard work, demystifying the origin of hell
Many years after I admitted to myself that I was an atheist I still randomly get anxious over going to hell. It still pops into my head randomly and it takes a few seconds before I realize it was fake.
Any time I hear someone say that indoctrination of children is not child abuse I tend to stop talking to that person, not suddenly, but I will cut them out of my life. I can't change them, I can only change myself.
It helps to realize what a giant asshole YHWH is...like, is it a punishment to be separated from such a monster?
When the SMT YHVH is actually a better depiction of Him then Christians depicting Him today
The one upside of being raised jehovah's witness: i wasn't taught to fear hell. Great work as always, thank you for taking us along
Did they let you know that Jehovah is Jupiter. He is also the Greek Zeus who throws his lightning and thunderbolts. He also like to drown people.
Also raised Jehovah's witness, ex-jw now. Sadly, the lack of fear of Hell was replaced with the fear of being shunned(disfellowshipped), "The Great Tribulation", "Armageddon" and the judgement after the "Thousand Year Reign". But hey, if you survive all that then you're golden🙄
the fear of hell is synonymous with the fear of Armageddon by witnesses, being raised a witness I was never scared of Armageddon, made peace with the fact that I was not entering into his kingdom, and that was okay, maybe that's because I never really believed anyways. Great to be out. 🥂
@@izzyOla
Armageddon is from har Megiddo (hill Megiddo) which is the autumn equinox (west). This the place where the sun falls below the celestial equator and shit hits the fan. The story of the last stand against the Romans at har Megiddo is copied from the astrological works of Ptolomey.
I appreciate everybody's explanations for those unaccustomed but I'm well aware of all of this, unfortunately, having lived it myself. Maybe it's an autistic experience of never being particularly integrated into the congregation, but personally I'm glad I was just a social outcast and not a social outcast with a fear of burning for all eternity for being gay, just being abandoned and never waking up in the New World. Not necessarily better, but I consider it one less bit of trauma I have to reckon with
Thankyou for this. I grew up being told the same things and really struggled to come to terms with the fact that maybe it wasn't true... it's really hard to get your head around feeling like 20+ years of your life were shaped by fear but videos and perspectives like this are so helpful. It's videos like this that are helping me begin to heal and it's good to know I'm not alone in that journey.
12 years was enough for me, I couldn't handle the Christian lies at that point. I can't imagine living with that fear and cognitive dissonance that long, I'm sorry for you. That's almost why I feel like arguing with people over the age of 40 is useless because they've had their minds made up so long nothing can change it at this point
Thank you, thank you thank you for such an amazing video. The compassionate tone you use will allow me to share this with the people I love.