Welcome To The Jangle [Guitar] Rickenbacker 330, Fender Johnny Marr Jaguar, Compressors & Chorus
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Exploring a cliché or three as we take inspiration from the jangle guitar sound and see what comes next
Welcome to the show! We recently had the great pleasure - nay, honour - of spending a day with flippin’ British pop icon/leg-end, Johnny Marr for an episode of That Pedal Show. Among the incredible experiences that day for me and Dan was Johnny playing two guitars with which neither of us are that familiar: a Rickenbacker 330 and a Fender Jaguar. Dan was so moved by the Jag, we found a way of acquiring one… and I’ve been itching about a Ricky ever since. Thanks to viewer, Mark Kember, we have one on loan for a bit.
Thus, without any further adult supervision, we thought we’d take the opportunity to plug em in, add some classic compression and chorus and see where we ended up… which just so happened to be two cranked 100 watt heads. Heaven knows we're not miserable now…
Enjoy the show!
Pedals and stuff used in this video…
• TheGigRig Three2One
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• TC Electronic Polytune Noir Mini 3
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• Brelliott Amps TODP
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• OKKO Coca Compressor
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• Union Tube & Transistor LAB
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• Ross Compressor
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• JAM Pedals Pink Flow
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• Boss DD-3T
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• TC Electronics SCF+
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• Boss CE-2W
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• TheGigRig G3
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Interesting bits & go-to sections
0:00 Intro
1:17 Welcome to the Jangle
2:20 Dan’s new Marrguar
2:50 Mark Kember’s Ricky 330
5:30 The start of jangle
6:00 Noel’s Knobs
7:30 Jag’n’Rick
9:00 Compressors
10:00 Jam Pedals Dynassor
11:20 Ross Compressor
12:30 Union Tube & Transistor LAB
13:20 Okko Coca
17:00 What do we like about them?
18:45 Chorus?
20:54 CE-2w, SCF+ & Waterfall
23:47 Vibrato only & wet/dry chorus
24:30 SCF-type chorus
26:00 Super Reverb Tremolo
30:30 RAWK!! Hiwatt and Laney heads?
34:30 Mick builds a sonic cathedral
36:15 Fluke of Seagull
39:00 Taming of the amps
40:00 Jag neck pickup lushness
41:10 Ballad of Daniel Pumpkin Head
41:45 Back to ‘Backer
44:00 Take me to the bridge!
45:30 Manic Bunday
46:00 A man and his capo
48:00 Ricky blend control
48:50 Our new direction?
Guitars in today’s episode
• Fender Johnny Marr Signature Jaguar - no video yet
• Rickenbacker 330 - thanks to Mark Kember for lending us this!
Amps in today’s episode
• Fender ’65 Super Reverb Reissue with 4x10 Jensen P10R speakers
• 1961 Vox AC30 with Celestion Alnico Blue speakers
• 1969 Laney Supergroup - thanks Paul Stacey!
• Zilla Custom 412 with 2 x Celestion Vintage 30 and 2 x Jensen Raptor 100
• 1973 Hiwatt DR103 Custom 100
• Marshall 1960AX 412 with Celestion G12M Greenback speakers
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Thing i always found interesting about Ricks and Jags, Jazzmasters etc is that they are almost noodle-proof. Meaning you cant really just pick them up and fuss around with blues licks etc, they are so chordal and parts driven machines you kind of need to go to work when you are playing one, total songwriting beasts
Ha! Love this!
That's a really good observation.
You can notice this in videos where they would normally play LP's/Strats etc and automatically go full guitar-shop-employee blooz, but put a Jag or Danelectro in front of them and it forces them to do something else!
Absolutely true ...guitars dictate how / what you play ...I bought a sg jr and it makes me rip Clapton Cream blues and my jazzmaster makes me play more harmonically and think about chord structures ...love them both
Nonsense, I’ve had my cij jaguar for almost 20 years and it’s perfectly capable of playing the blues on ffs
It took me 25 years to wake up to the beauty of what Jazzmasters and Jaguars do best. I had the same misconception of "no sustain=always a bad thing". When I finally bought a squire classic vibe Jazzmaster I realized that all the features that thought were bugs were actually the things that make these guitar designs so special. ABSOLUTELY LOVE MY OFFSETS NOW!!!
Yep the rattle and ringing adds to the chime
Totally possible to adjust the guitar to have more sustain without ruining it. Mastery bridge, maybe a buzz stop, slightly hotter pickups, perhaps a compressor. I don't use the latter but the three before it? Absolutely.
A good cut bone nut and a mastery bridge is all you need, buzz stop will stop the chime and ringing. Tried it all on my jaguar and mastery bridge and bone nut is all i need@@user-hx8xe5ev9g
As the happy owner of a ruby red Ric 330 (hi-gains) I’d like to mention that when it comes to “beyond the jangle“ let’s not forget about the aggressive crunch-chime sound that Paul Weller got in the Jam with a 330. Fantastic sound.
And the guy from Fugazi/Rites of Spring
The Mark of Cain and Bailter Space (Aussie and Kiwi bands, respectively) got huge distortion tones from their Ricks, Jags, Jazzmstrs.
Amen to that
You have a Ricky, a Casino and a Gretsh, plus an AC 30. An episode on the sounds of the Beatles would be stellar
Yessss. This. Do this!!!!
I don't have any of those things, but I have a couple Conquerors and other MRB Vox amps and some Boss Spectrum pedals, there's definitely a few different sorts of tone to chase around, if you want to go there.
I loved the video with Mr Marr as he's something of a hero to me, and this "follow on" video was just fantastic 😊 I recently got a TVL Jazzmaster and it really is it's own thing, as are these. Great to see you trying different guitars and also pushing their boundaries too! Thanks D&M for a great 50 minutes well spent 👏🏻 although you may have persuaded me to look for a Jag now 😂 but seriously, well done guys 👍🏻 😍
Great idea! But I think that, starting from there, they will have to make an episode about every group existing on earth, so as not to displease anyone...🤷🏻♂️
Yes!
When Mick started playing to the guitar instead of forcing his old playing style into it it really came alive. Like all guitars. :-) epic
Peter Buck will forever be my Rickenbacker hero. R.E.M.'s "Lifes Rich Pageant" kick started my obsession with Rickenbackers. The Beatles, The Byrds and Tom Petty certainly were to follow but Peter was and still is my electric guitar mentor.
I learned to play in the 80s from REM and Billy Bragg albums. Peter was definitely my #1 influence. I saw them in 89 on the Green World Tour in New Zealand. Best gig ever!!
@@mattgilbert7347 That's so cool! I would've loved to see them back in the day. I'm on the West Coast and Peter lives out here. All of my musician friends have bumped into him at one point in time or another except me, lol! It's all about time and place
@@ConglomerationCat My GF's best friend met Michael Stipe at our local vegetarian restaurant/cafe during the afternoon before the gig. He wouldn't sign an autograph but shook her hand:)
@@ConglomerationCat To this day, I return to the first 4-5 albums if my rhythm/jangle chops need working on.
@@mattgilbert7347 Seriously? Wow, same here! Chronic Town up to Lifes Rich Pageant are very close to my heart. I liked some material off of Document. Especially Welcome To The Occupation. You have a favorite album or songs?
This is the episode I've been waiting for! The Smiths, REM, Ride and countless 90's Brit bands. No guitar fits a song better than a jangly one when it's about the song.
Nice to see you guys exploring beyond the typical strat/tele standard.
I actually really love the edge that tiny fingerboard brings to mick’s playing! So used to his technique being so pristine, the slightly rawer feel he had in the last half of the episode was an inspiring change-up.
Mick has never sounded so “musical”. Great rhythm playing! That rickenbaker is a must for you guys.
His playing is amazing on that thing!
I'm 58 and English so bands like the Smiths and Orange Juice were the main guitar bands that I listened to in my formative years, so these guitar sounds are so familiar to me, probably more so than the heavier 60s and 70s guitar sounds that seemed very old fashioned by then. Really takes me down memory lane hearing this.
30:47 Dan going drop D Soundgarden mode brought a smile to my face much like Mick! It’s not too often y’all reach for that sonic territory.
But when you do reach for it you always do so on a Fender Jagu....wait a second..... 🤔
Mick is always admitting he listens most often to things like Counting Crows and singer-songwriters, but then he usually plays us huge Hendrix licks. It was so nice to hear him lean into this more chordal playing, the type he probably does in local gigs when he sings and accompanies himself alone.
I would love an episode about what to play (and how to set an amp) when trying out guitars in shops, something that goes beyond epic single-note riffs and more into this territory.
That’s a good idea. I would like to see them @Anderton’s, shopping for pedals on the sales floor. Mick can do it proper by bringing in his guitar and Dan can just show up like the rest of us.
The playing in the video is probably 80-90% of what most viewers typically play ie belt out some chords and the odd lick rather than twiddling blues, rock riffs and atmospheric licks they usually play. To me this is a breath of fresh air as this is how most of us would play.
To me Jangle is all about classic tones from Byrds, Beatles, Tom Petty, Rem etc. Which can be achieved by 12 or 6 string Rickenbackers (preferably with toaster pick ups), Vox or Fender amps, flatwound strings + good quality compressors like Diamond or Janglebox. Would have loved to see this thing being covered. The 80’s type jangle is different though, with a lot of chorus sounds included. Anyway, you are doing fantastic stuff, keep it up and thanks for yet another fine episode.
Very true. Peter Buck used very thick flatwound strings in the early days of R.E.M.
I wouldn't have thought flatwounds jangled, interesting! I guess i would have assumed thin bright strings...
@@willudallmusic That’s what many people think. But the combination of a bright amp and mellow/warm tone of flatwound strings, together these produce perfect jangle.
@@80daytripper will have to give that a try, cheers! always chasing jangle ;)
@@willudallmusicTry Thomastik Infeld Jazz Swing 10’s or 11’s. These are the premium flatwound string that sounds, feels and lasts forever like no other string set.
If you decide to acquire a Rickenbacker, I would suggest getting one with toaster pickups. Those modern high gains don’t have the classic Rickenbacker sound. Toasters would have given you the treble you were missing compared to the Jag.
Be aware that the mid 60's toaster pickups are a lower gain 7.5 to 8 ohm. The newer toaster pickups and the ones on the V reissues are high gain 12 to 12.5 which are about the same as the new high gain pickups with the adjustable pole pieces. Also the wiring is different on the newer guitars after approx 84. It makes the newer Rickenbacker's sound quite a bit like mud boxes..
Those That Know, know 😊
@@jameshocking1188 Yep, I’m aware. But there are some aftermarket makers who make the toasters more accurately. It’s funny, because I’m generally against the idea of swapping out stock pickups on guitars for aftermarket pickups, but in a case where I’d be replacing modern muddy high gains with vintage spec low wounds, I’d totally be on board.
@@darwinsaye I agree, I rewired my 360 12 v64 with 500k potentiometers, installed the .0047uf capacitor for the bridge pickup and replaced the pickups with Gemini mid 60's toasters. All redone to vintage specs. Saved all the old parts so that it can be reverted back to original manufacturer specifications.
The modifications I performed made a world of difference and I now hear all the classic tones of the Byrd's, Tom Petty, Peter Buck, Smithereens, the Church, Matthew Sweet . And Peter Townsend.
Also played through a JangleBox 3. Just also another historical note, Roger Mcguinn played through a Vox Treble booster that was later wired into his guitar by his guitar tech.
I always liked Jim Babjak's (of The Smithereens) sound as heard on "Blood and Roses"; a bit of jangle, a bit more bite and a really tasteful solo that I wouldn't have initially attributed to a Rickenbacker (similar in appearance to 330 but w/ 3 pickups; I don't know the actual model), but I have never managed to feel comfortable in my very limited time playing a Rick (guitar or bass). I frequently love when others play it in the context of songs, especially when I can't tell immediately it's a Rick. With that 80s chorus sound, it's a fine line. I absolutely love The Smiths, The Church and bands like Wire Train and 80s/90s bands like Half String and For Against but a lot of 80s production is super dated to my ears. A lot is gold. it's about 50/50 for me.
That black Ricky + Marshall stack combo was pure Fugazi! For when you must jangle AND rock!
Magic. Right up my street. The two delay thing at 26mins sounded incredible. Well done guys another inspiring show. The other guitarist I think you forgot to mention who was a master at this sound was James Honeyman-Scott of The Pretenders.
With the recent showcase of what a Fender Jaguar can do, I would love to see a video with Joff Oddie from Wolf Alice and his immaculate pedalboard!
This video is my tonal happy place. Two of my main guitars are a 1962 Fender Jaguar and a 1966 Rickenbacker 330/12. I bought the Ric shortly after the Dave Gregory 12 string episode (it came up for sale locally for a ridiculously good deal). Happy to answer any Jag/Ric related questions as a happy owner of both. I also have a Janglebox and Cali76 Stacked for compressors and a Boss CE-1 chorus.
That blend control let's you add just a little bottom end to that bridge pickup by brining in the neck. What a great topic today. I don't have a Jag, but your new one appearing in all the vids is making me think I need one. Amazing tones today as always. Thanks for all you do. Have a great weekend. P.S. Loved the Prince/Bangles tune at the end.
One great thing about having a "jangly" guitar is if you play in a band with another guitar player, and say you're both playing Les Pauls or other humbucker guitars. The different frequencies of a single coil guitar will help fill out the overall band sound and help with separation - each guitar can be heard better in the mix. Then it won't feel like you're fighting or competing with each other, instead complementing each other.
I play my RIC 360 a LOT… and rarely jangle - it’s a labor of love to learn how to use them well, but (as Mick found today) the payback is so worth it. Far from a perfect guitar (too idiosyncratic by far) but wonderful in its iconic weirdness!
Hello my favorite Lads! The best compressor for true Beatles/Byrds jangle I’ve found is the Janglebox line. On my board I have a Remote Loopy 2 in a G3 loop with my Cali 76 one one side and a Digitech Mosiac 12 string emulator with the Janglebox JBX for a fantastic mock 12 string tone. I’d highly recommend any of the Janglebox line to anyone looking for the most jangle they can handle.
Much love!
Darin
"A man and his capo" almost made me cry. Very beautiful, Mick.
Shhhh!… the benefits of a shorter sustain and more harmonically rich transient are a secret sauce for those wanting to avoid the cliches of “rock” guitar. The more who know about it, the more demand for already expensive or low volume production guitars!😊 Gretsch and Danelectro models sometimes satisfy this approach, too. Of course, add some juicy amp goodness or a few pedals and you get Won’t Get Fooled Again, In My Time of Dying, Can’t Explain, or Going Underground. So…”rock”, too.😊
There was an article in one of the music newspapers in the mid-80s (too young to remember, obviously) called “Why Do Jocks Jangle?”… I still don’t know why we like it, but we bloody do. A whole host of jangly 80s bands from North of the Border that I still listen to.
Great show here fellas, LOVE this type of music. Gallagher, Marr and surely, tba (hushed tones), Squire to complete the Trinity… !
could I add Bernard Butler - even if he isn't a Northern soul?
Did someone say Jangle? I just got home a few hours ago from watching The Ocean Blue here in San Diego play 20 songs without a break and it was glorious
Ive played a Ric 350 since 1989. I also had a Ric 360v64 12 string, that I was lucky enough to have Roger McGuinn sign.👍
Micks (or should I say MICs) Ric has the later “high output” pickups”, while the early “Toaster” style pickups have the more classic jangle.
As for a “rockin” sound there’s the WHO of course, but later on the SMITHEREENS.
I still love the "Noel's Knobs" burn in! Somehow i always forget its going to be in there, and still makes me have a little laugh inside my head.
New and different guitars, less bs to fiddle around with = some of the best and inspired playing I've ever heard outta you guys. Cheers!
TPS has been part of my Friday morning routine for years but I was particularly surprised and delighted to see this episode. Jangle style guitar has long been a favorite of mine (which the longer I do it, I find the gear matters less and less although Ricks and Jaguars are such a great example of the foundational tone). It was also great hearing those guitars through the big 70s rigs but it reminded me of The Smithereens who played Rickenbackers through Marshalls (among other amps) and they had such a huge sound. Love you guys no matter what but this episode felt like a special gift to old jangler like myself.
Seeing the enthusiasm on Dan’s face is always pure gold. 😄
Great Episode Dan & Mick !! You've provided such a nice overview of these tones. I love my Rickenbacker 330 and find it speaks well with whatever effects I put it through. Thank you for the consistently great content of TPS !! Gratefully - John
Dan's tone at 26:34 minutes in is beautiful. Really enjoying this episode. I've been rocking the scf + for a year now. Might be time to look at a second delay...
I clocked 112db and many smiles when Dan hit the gain... and love how Mick is visibly working hard to eek sounds out of his Ricky, but getting them - sense of satisfaction and fun is there as always chaps 🤣🤣🤣
don't expect to be blown away by a 330 (looks aside). It takes some bonding time. Was my number one 20 years ago am getting back to playing one. Definitely a learning curve.
This has been my favourite regular episode in ages. Love it when you guys branch out into new sounds. Both of you seem to have found a rich new seam by leaning into the Ric and Jag worlds! I'm here for this journey!
You guys are killing me. First, the Johnny Marr interview and now this. Johnny Marr is by far my favorite guitarist and the whole reason I went and got a Rickenbacker 360 6 string and a 1993plus. I'm okay with that neck on the 360 for a 6 string, but tried the 360/12 string and realized it was near impossible. That 1993plus with the wider neck is a Godsend.
The fifth knob is indeed a blend control that operates when both pickups are engaged (middle position on the selector). It is meant to balance the two pickups to your preference. I run mine straight down the middle.
Great explorations! Just celebrated a 1-year guitar anniversary of buying my Rickenbacker, a vintage Electro branded ES-17, a 420 in Rick numbers. A bit further away from a 330, almost like an SG junior with a toaster pickup. There's no bad way to jangle, some of my favorite sounds from you both today!
Guy from Fugazi plays a Rick. There are few bands whose guitars wail like Fugazi.
This episode actually cured my gas for a Rickenbacker: I own a Johnny Marr Jag, and I think they sound pretty similar in some contexts and setting. But contrary to Dan, I prefer the middle position.
Anyway, great to see you guys explore this side of guitar sounds. Twang and jangle are life!
I had a 335 for about a fortnight. Loved it in the shop, couldn’t stop it feeding back at home.
The Rick into those Hiwatt & Laney amps was some of the hugest rock tones I've ever heard from Mick. Ditto when Dan played the Jag into same. Amazing! I need a Jag and a Rick!
"Mr. Bank Manager about my credit..."😂
the JAM multi effect is really a piece of art. I tried one once, it is awesome, warm, organic, its alive, like all JAM pedals. To this day my fav pedal company, the delay Llama - next to my timeline on my board - and the waterfall chorus will never leave my setup 😊!
Greetings ftom Germany and thx for the show!
I'm enjoying snatches of well-known songs thrown into the improvised playing.
I want a whole record of Dan sounding like Kim Thayil. What a glorious sound!
Been playing offsets guitars exclusively for the past 4-5 years and it’s nice to see them back on the show! Cheers enjoy the new guitar Dan 😊
Most compressors can stab like ice picks in your ears but not my Diamond Optical Compressor. There's a smoothness to it that is very organic.
There's a great hardcore band called Birds In Row from France; the guitarist plays a 330. Gives quite a lot of space between the guitar and bass, instead of the kind of brick wall mix most heavy bands have.
Fugazi's Guy Picciotto plays one as well
I saw them live a few weeks ago - they sounded amazing!
I own & regularly gig with that exact Johnny Marr Signature Jag and at first it took a while to get used to it but once you find the sweet spot it’s hard to play anything else!
A Fireglo 360 was the first American guitar I ever bought ($550 without case in 1987 from Rhythm City in Atlanta, they practically paid me to take it). It's not an exaggeration to say that Rickenbackers changed the course of my life. Awesome, as ever, gentlemen. Cheers! Edit: No Janglebox??
Aren’t Rickys German?
@@thebaneofyourexistence.3377 Nope. Made in the USA.
Some people get upset when owners remove the Made in the USA American Flag sticker on the pickguard.
Reid, I bought a 1982 Les Paul custom there around that same time for $450. Those were the days!
@@waltercoyle6393 🤣
@@thebaneofyourexistence.3377 Adolph Rickenbacker was Swiss, and it was originally pronounced "Bach-er"; he changed it to "Back-er" to put some distance between his name and anything that seemed remotely Germanic around WWI.
Peter Pumpkinhead at 21:21 just made my week. Thank you Daniel.
Far out! Dan your tone at the 27 minute mark is pure bliss. Then to go from that to could absolutely pass for a Tool album guitar tone at 31 minutes… I didn’t think I’d hear that from a jag!
Would be really cool if you did an episode on shoegaze tones to complement the jangle and jaguar sound
The 5th knob on the Rick is a second volume pot for the neck pickup. I'm told it's purpose is a balance for when you're in the middle position, as the neck pickup can overpower the bridge.
Love that you devoted an entire show to the two guitars that I own and love.
As a 330 Ricky owner, I'm biased. However, who can argue with the glorious tone that newby Mick has got out of his borrowed Ricky.
I love my Analogman Bi-Comp - when I bought it I too wanted to jangle, and got the Rick mod, giving three different voicings specificially for Ricky guitars - obviously I never use that switch, but it would be of interest in this context. It's an amazingly good pedal btw.
Great show as usual, chaps
I'm currently using the same model Rickenbaker thats Ive been loaned by a good friend and I finally found my guitar! And it absolutely can do rock tones as well as that 80s Jangle. I'm a big Peter Buck and Johnny Marr fan and just never got round to trying one. But everyone from The Jam and Weller to all those other Ricky players knew the secret.
Now saving for one of my own!
What I got from this was, if it were possible to have 'too much fun' you lads got pretty close. Yes, and all in the privacy of your own studio! By the by ... one of you lads got to 109dB ... guess who? Loved it!
Love this! The JM episode renewed my desire to learn a couple Smiths tunes, and I've since learned Charming Man and What Difference Does It Make. Loving the different type of sound with clean/chorus and making use of my capo too. Thanks for the amazing content as always!
Yup the JM episode spurred me on to attempt This Charming Man as well.
The show just keeps exploring and helping. Community learning!
My brother in law has owned for over 30 years a Susanna Hoffs Model Rickenbacker, and it's a fantastic playing and sounding guitar when it "jangles", but I was stunned how great it sounded with serious overdrive and fuzz! He let me borrow it for around a month, and I had a blast with it! If you think Rickenbackers can't deal with it, you'd be very very wrong! I agree with Mick that the neck takes a bit to get used to, especially if all you're used to is Gibson and Fender style profiles, but once you get used to it, it's a very easy guitar to play, and not having one around, as I had to give it back to my brother in law, has me feeling the itch to add one to my modest collection. Turning 50 next year so maybe my better half will let me treat myself to a 330 to scratch that now constant itch!
You warmed my heart, lads. Having loved Rickenbackers throughout my youth, I finally got the George Harrison 12 string (the one without the impractical R tailpiece). I wrote in on a VCQ that the narrow neck and 12 strings necessitated cleaning up my sloppy playing. Both fretting hand and right hand. I love it. My astoundingly wonderful friend, Larry Cragg, advised to just leave the selector toggle on middle position and use the blend nob. That's been the most effective. Dan, I was at a Bangles gig some years ago and, unsurprisingly, positioned myself about 8 feet from Susanna Hoffs, stage left. Wanting a close look at her Ricky, you understand. My date was dancing in an expressive way to my left, so I exaggerated stepping to my right, while looking up at Susanna. She watched it unfold and laughed. It was an all time favorite concert experience and makes me laugh to this day. Hey, sometimes the entertainers like a bit of entertainment.
Holy smokes I thought I was hearing Marty Wilson-Piper for a few minutes! Well done, old chums.
Oh wow, I’m just listening to the intro, and I know , it’s going to be a good one. Great tone 👍🏻🎸
Oh Dan! 21:29 - Andy Partridge just taught us the correct second chord for Peter Pumpkinhead over on Chanan Hanspal's channel. Its a G6/9!
Been loving the chorus and delay combo for a while now, though usually in a ambient context, awashed in atmospheric reverb. But the jangle is so beautiful. Interestingly Dans favourite, the humble Tele, gets used a lot for jangle delights. And for a good example of a Ricky rocking yer pants off, go check out the Modfather himself, Mr. Paul Weller, driving Vox and Marshall amps in old live footage of The Jam. Great show as always x
Many years ago this was my default sound (or something close-ish to it). Having come back to music more recently and watched lots of (the usual) UA-cam guitarists I felt like almost everyone was doing the same kind of blues/rock lick thing and I was amazed that everyone appeared to have forgotten the jangle sound that came from the 60s and re-emerged in the 80s. It was therefore refreshing to have this (to me important) part of guitar sound history into the UA-cam arena. Much as I like the usual UA-cam guitarists they do all sound mostly the same and are seemingly playing in a style everyone I knew a few decades ago was trying to get away from (the 70s 'large rock' Mick references in this video). What Johnny Marr said about the Rickenbacker making you play differently is 100% true. Anyway, thanks for this video it was a breath of fresh air to hear these kinds of sounds on UA-cam.
Radio Free Europe, Radio Free Europe......the sight of the Ric took me back to the early 80's and Peter Buck grooving on stage in a small club (70 people max capacity) in North Carolina. People lined up to get in...one person leaves...one person goes in..fire codes were enforced...in case the place spontaneously combusted.
The Dave Gregory riffs are never far away. And i love it.
It should be noted that the Rickenbacker 350SH Susanna Hoffs signature model is an HSS guitar, bridge humbucker and two Vintage single coils in the middle and neck positions.
Fabulous playing guys. Mick particularly playing crazy good today…. So good to see you with an unfamiliar beast and having to focus a little as you get to grips with her and pulling the sounds out of you and the guitar…. Skillz
In mid 1995 I bought a Rickenbacker 360v64 off the wall at Manny’s Music in Manhattan. Some years later I replaced the original overwound neck toaster pickup with a lower-wind version. (Kept the original bridge pickup but wired in a cap to bleed off some low end a la vintage Rics.) It’s been one of my top 3 electric guitars ever since.
Dunno if all 360v64s are like mine but the neck is 1 11/16ths wide at the nut so it feels “normal.”
I'm really glad you did eventually get around to the other pickups, because my left eye was starting to twitch. I almost never use the bridge pickup alone on my 330. If I do, it's only for particular emphasis and contrast. Probably 70% of the time, I'm on both pickups, 20% of the time on the neck pickup solo, and only 10% of the time on the bridge pickup solo, if even that much. The Hi-Gain neck pickup solo on a 330 is IMO one of the best guitar sounds of all time, and that sound is fantastic for Blues.
I've been waiting for a Rickenbacker to get in your guys' hands for years! I have a few and admittedly never try to go for jangle, usually more of a clean ambient neck pickup thing that sounds beautiful (and the bridge can handle distortion/fuzz with a unique clarity and rawness as you saw later on in the episode). I strongly encourage you guys to try a full Rickenbacker episode - I think you'd be surprised playing a 620 model (and the neck/fingerboard is much more forgiving coming from Fender/Gibson style). Great episode as usual!
They both sound fantastic. Wish I still owned my Marguar, and glad I still own a Ric 360. FWIW, my singer always says my Ric sounds best in the mix, because it never competes for his voice or other instruments -- kind of has its own frequency. Cheers from Florida!
Danelectro would be another amazing jangle guitar worth mentioning! Similar vibe to the rickenbacker - hollow and single coil. Lipstick pickups send it to another level of jangle.
I have widened the string spacing at the nut on several guitars to increase ease of finger access and allow open strings to vibrate when wanted. The variety of neck widths can be accommodated by the same approach - to either widen or narrow string spacing. Any extra neck material at the sides of the fingerboard can be rolled to lessen interference (increase comfort).
I recently got a jangly guitar myself and it's something I've been missing. It's a G&L Doheny, basically a Jazzmaster. Its thin sound is different than that of a Tele or Strat, but it's still firmly in single coil territory. Really digging the sound of Dan's new Johnny Marr Jaguar. I think the shorter scale can also contribute to inspiration as the different feel will nudge you to play a bit differently.
😎 in the Jingle Jangle morning we'll come subscribe to you. Awesome guys
Ive been a daily watcher of TPS for years, I’m surprised that I rarely see the Jazzmaster featured on your channel. I feel that you guys haven’t given that model enough attention, they are fantastic! Excellent tones and playing as usual, you guys are the best!
Neither of us have gelled with our JM. Dan had a Jag before this one, just didn’t get it. Then this one comes along and boom! Maybe it’ll be the same with a different Jazzmaster.
what a great surprise to come home from work to! I've just poured a pint and grabbed my Ricky 330 sitting in a comfy chair and I'm set!! Happy night!
The Boss Waza Chorus is amazing. I do a lot of acoustic gigs these days and the CE1 mode fattens up my acoustic in a really nice way. Then if I need to use it for electric I go for the CE2 mode for more jangle on my strat. I had an original in the 80's and sold it, which i regret, but then they did the Wza and i had to have it, because all the other boss Chorus pedals after were too metallic sounding.
Mind blowing - yet obvious! Loved it!
Thanks for this, very helpful. I have an old single pickup guitar that wants to jangle and for some reason I'm always trying to change the pickups to try to turn it into something else, I need to embrace the jangle.
ahh, your Marr has a Mastery bridge. I've been playing Jaguars and Jazzmasters for over 30 years, and that's the best bit of kit ever!
I don't know if it's all the jangle in the episode or if it's UA-cams processing or something but there's just a tiny bit of crackle in my right ear at various points in this episode. That said, this episode is absolutely epic. One interesting thing for me is I've never been interested in a Ricky guitar, but, a Ricky bass? Right up my alley. Love the Ricky basses and in fact there's a little band I love called Chase Petra (have a listen to 'Pacific' if you're interested) - I went to see them a few weeks back and the bassist had a glorious natural Ricky bass. And a massive shout out to that Jag! Wow! Sounded absolutely glorious. Even after the taming of the amps.
Boss CP1X a Super Chorus and a DD3 are also phenomenal combos with such guitars.
Loved this! If you're wanting that Ricky sound but are on a budget, the Italia range of guitars is a very good shout. I played an Italia 12-String when on the search for something new, and it had that classic Ricky-12 sound nailed. Anyway, keep on keeping on with the shows, always an education and inspiration :)
Nice episode! Been playing Rics for over 40 years...my go to guitar.
For me the sound of the jag, is both pickups on….. bridge is super icy and is cool for surf, neck is pretty standard, but together they twang like no other. I have a 65. Welcome to the Twangle!
I use a Thorpy Fat General compressor with my JM Jag, its a wonderful comp. These all sound awesome too. Great vid chaps
Often confused with a blend knob, the Ric's 5th knob is a volume preset for the neck pickup. It only works when the neck pickup is selected or in the middle, with both pickups active.
Nice to see another Brelliott TODP out there! It sounded great with the Ricky and delay! Now I've got to try mine through a delay to see if I can get it sounding like that!
Everybody rightly mentions the jangle from JM and REM (which I love) but Paul Weller was the reason I bought a 330. The Jam sound wasn’t jangly at all, it was very aggressive and he played solo parts too. It was also a major part of The Jam’s 6 year recording career.
Fantastic fun, this one. Amazed we didn't hear any Jam riffs, but there's always next time :)
I bought a Ricky 330 for the jangle and never bonded with it. I found I had to run a boost and compressor to get the sound I wanted, and also upgraded the pickups to Creamery 63s. In the end I sold it and got a Tele! I'm playing the tele all the time so pleased I made the switch. Tempted by a Jag one day.