I got the 4060, was hesitating between that and the 3070 version of the laptop (Asus m16), and i choose the 4060, because it was just a better option for me.
@@Gabor927 The 4060 doesn't seem bad! I have a 3060 laptop and for the price I got it for it kicks butt. Sadly though until (and IF) DLSS 3 gets a lot more adoption there are more and more games that just don't play well without 10+ gb vram
@@JoaoSamouco Exactly why i went with the 4060. I have been travelling quiet a lot lately and just wanted a relatively good laptop to play some new and mostly older game without issues. Was considering the 6800s full AMD G14, but i just couldn't resist the m16 chassis.
The performance of the "low-power" 4080 has me excited for the Zephyrus G14 this year...optional Mini-LED, AMD Phoenix-HS, and 125W Lovelace sounds extremely promising
@@NotebookcheckReviews this laptop is in pretty similar style to the Acer Swift X 14 Creator, utilizing the RTX 3050Ti, a creator based machine, hidden as a capable gaming machine!
Framework 16 is not due in Q4, and there will be a short supply, so it will probably Q1 2024 for most. By then, the next-gen Intel with a new iGPU will be out, so it will be behind the curve. With an expected price of >£2000, that will be a hard sell for anyone outside the modular-design bubble.
Good review, I've have multiple Razer Blade 17's and currenlty looking at the new Blade 18. Thinking of maybe trying MSI but this seems to be too thick compared to the Razer and has a lower quality screen.
The chassis design of Stealth 17 keeps last years' model. I guess more customers prefer stealth 16, because the pure white chassis is more attractable. By the way, Acer will hold the next global press conference on 4.20. I'm really expecting Acer to release new Triton series and bring Helios 500 back.
Thanks for the review! Is the keyboard not the same as on Titan GT77HX? How come the 144 Hz 4K Mini-LED screen on Stealth 17 Studio only gets to 390 nits in SDR, while on Titan GT77HX it gets to 600 nits in SDR?
Hi all, whats the name of the tech you mentioned that makes Asus mini-led screens usable for photo editing ? does asus strix scar scar nebula HDR has it ? thanks
HI Marc, Asus is the only manufacturer (for now) that allows their MiniLED panels to be used as a single zone backlight, which helps a lot when doing colour-critical stuff. It is a setting in their armoury crate software. But remember this is only relevant when it comes to MiniLED panels.
At this point, any Nvidia card with 10gb ram with i9 intel and 64gb ram should only cost 3500 CAD at the very most and includes touch screen is a must with a decent pen. Otherwise, too expensive for what we're getting
@@NotebookcheckReviews Yea but I mean in general for all companies. From this review, I noticed 3080 ti stacks up very well with an i9 12 or 13 gen. Can you recommend 1-3 laptops based on your reviews that have the num keypad with good price/performance ratio? I mainly do motion design and photography and would be great if one had touch/pen support as well. I'd really appreciate any help as I'm in the market to buy something in the next few months.
Can you please confirm that the noise samples are calibrated correctly to the volume of your voice? I ask because some review measured 62dB as the maximum noise while your sound sample lets the full fan speed sound roughly like 45dB...! Too good to be true, or is it? Below, I suppose the noise samples are calibrated correctly. The 4080 @ (80+25)W compute / work speeds are ok and the noise is very good. Therefore, I would buy the MSI Stealth 17 if it were a creator notebook with at most 16:10, ordinarily sized arrow (and numpad) keys and without seal sticker on any of the chassis screws. The weak hinge is a concern. I do not know yet if cleaning the fans is easy or hard. I do not understand why this notebook is so rather silent. It does not have any of vapor chamber, liquid metal or 4 fans. Instead, it is 20mm thin. Something can't be right. In the review, you do not sound overly excited about the noise level, either. Maybe, 13900H can run low in GPU heavy tasks and 4080 @ 105W is sufficiently efficient indeed. If so, a vapor chamber would make things even better. ---robert jasiek
I have no way of measuring the noise sample proberly yet. So it is more of a subjective representation of the laptop's relative noise, compared to keyboard presses. That said (again, subjectively) the 62db you mentioned does sound way too loud. I felt like the Stealth was instead "quiet" for the performance it provides. I was driving it daily for about 2 weeks and mostly left it in performance mode while working (video-editing/retouching) since the fan noise wasn't bothering me. That said, I feel like I have a higher-than-usual toleriance for notebook noice if I get the performance I require. ;)
@@NotebookcheckReviews Just curios: why does it take so long for NBC providing you with noise measurement tools? On Idealo, there are some for ca. €25, but probably I am too naive and gauging might be a problem and require more expensive tools. --robert jasiek
Hi Robert, it is a process. Our test equipment is standardized across all writers, and so are our procedures. Since I am publishing 1-2 reviews on the channel per week, I also need to make time to implement the testing AND filming into my workflow, so it takes some time. We want to do it right and not rush anything! :) And its a LOT more than 25 Bucks ...
Yeah, I do not think it will break or anything. It just seems like a weaker spot, while the notebook is otherwise extremely solid. I liked it a lot during my time with it!
Good question. I am currently testing a Legion Pro 7 with a 4090. It runs at around 100W in its balanced profile. I will try to do a few tests in the review at that wattage! Apart from that, we did not test any "low-wattage" 4090s yet.
I don't understand how this screen can be 46ms? And does 2500 Hz PWM cause headaches and eye pain? I bought this but I haven't opened the box yet. Should I return it? I do graphic design and besides that, I only play FIFA as a game. What other models would you recommend at this price?
The MiniLEDs do make it quite hard for us the exactly measure the displays response times. If PWM will be a problem for you is a highly subjective and personal matter, so you can only try it for yourself. The ROG M16 might be interesting for you, or the Legion Pro 7s/9i.
The only laptop I'm waiting for this year is the rumored Surface Laptop Studio 2. If the "leaked" specs is true, I'm saying goodbye to my Alienware m15, iPad Pro, and Huion Kamvas 22.
@@NotebookcheckReviews A massive performance boost thanks to Intel Core i7-13800H and RTX 4060. It's enough for me as a digital artist and gaming when I have some free time. The first model's CPU made me buy a gaming laptop + display tablet instead.
Price: 5000 Euro??? Wtf happened to laptops LOL. Where is that justified. If you're a gamer, you could get a way cheaper desktop. If you're a creator, you can get a better performing MBP M1 for less than 2000 Euro. Crazy lol
While I agree that the Stealth is considerably overpriced, that age old laptop vs desktop discussion is getting old. And while the M1 is a great SOC it will not give you better performance in all creative applications and the Macbook Pro has some limitation in this regard as well!
Hi, is there a strix g16 4080 review coming soon? The website claims insane battery life of 9 hours running a 13980hx!!! I hope these numbers stand. Can anyone confirm? Also waiting for the review!! Every day I keep checking 😅
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Thank you so much for doing this review!!
I could not find any other English speaking UA-camr that is reviewing this model
You are more than welcome!
I think 4080 is the only way to go with this gen of cards. The 8gb VRAM (or 6) of the 4070 and down just don't cut it these days.
I got the 4060, was hesitating between that and the 3070 version of the laptop (Asus m16), and i choose the 4060, because it was just a better option for me.
@@Gabor927 The 4060 doesn't seem bad! I have a 3060 laptop and for the price I got it for it kicks butt. Sadly though until (and IF) DLSS 3 gets a lot more adoption there are more and more games that just don't play well without 10+ gb vram
@@kylerclarke2689 Yeah, hopefully the new FSR 3.0 will get a lot of adoption as well so older nvidia gpus can enjoy similar frame generation to DLSS 3
Spending more money for a 4070 to become obsolete at the same time as a 4060.
@@JoaoSamouco Exactly why i went with the 4060. I have been travelling quiet a lot lately and just wanted a relatively good laptop to play some new and mostly older game without issues. Was considering the 6800s full AMD G14, but i just couldn't resist the m16 chassis.
The performance of the "low-power" 4080 has me excited for the Zephyrus G14 this year...optional Mini-LED, AMD Phoenix-HS, and 125W Lovelace sounds extremely promising
Exactly my thoughts!
I have to say, my laptop hunt has been on hold since I heard about the Framework 16. I pretty much only want to learn more about that at this point. 😂
You and me both. I will get a 13" soon, so that will be my first experience with a framework. And then let us see when the 16" will be out!
@@NotebookcheckReviews this laptop is in pretty similar style to the Acer Swift X 14 Creator, utilizing the RTX 3050Ti, a creator based machine, hidden as a capable gaming machine!
Framework 16 is not due in Q4, and there will be a short supply, so it will probably Q1 2024 for most. By then, the next-gen Intel with a new iGPU will be out, so it will be behind the curve. With an expected price of >£2000, that will be a hard sell for anyone outside the modular-design bubble.
@@andyH_England I just want to get in that bubble so upgrading becomes cheaper.
@@nathanl2966 Yes, that is as good a reason as the next. Hoping that Framework prospers and gives people that want that flexibility a choice.
I'm a huge fan of this website since 2020
i hope u answer my question
does this msi 17 studio screeen has G sync tech ?
Thank you for your kind words.
And no, the Stealth's display does not support G-Sync
Suitable for gamers and creators
Indeed!
Good review, I've have multiple Razer Blade 17's and currenlty looking at the new Blade 18. Thinking of maybe trying MSI but this seems to be too thick compared to the Razer and has a lower quality screen.
The chassis design of Stealth 17 keeps last years' model. I guess more customers prefer stealth 16, because the pure white chassis is more attractable. By the way, Acer will hold the next global press conference on 4.20. I'm really expecting Acer to release new Triton series and bring Helios 500 back.
I think white chassis can really be hit or miss. New tritons could be interesting this year.
Do you have any future reviews planned for the helios 18?
Yes, absolutely! We just haven't been able to get any samples yet! 😕
Stealth 16 studio video?
We will get a sample soon!
Upgrading storage: Should I install an SSD with a heatsink for this laptop or does it already have one for the extra NVME slot?
The Stealth 16 Studio, Yoga Pro 9i, and RTX 4000 Zeyphrus G14 reviews are coming soon, right?
Probably at some point! :)
It's crazy how fast pcs become obsolete these days
yep disgusting
having issues with mine god what was i thinking
Hi, compared to the Lenovo Pro 7i, which one has a better screen? This MSI or Lenovo?
Lenovo pro 7i has an ips screen, that msi has a better quality (mini led) There is the lenovo legion i9 with mini led display but it's more expensive
Thanks for the review! Is the keyboard not the same as on Titan GT77HX? How come the 144 Hz 4K Mini-LED screen on Stealth 17 Studio only gets to 390 nits in SDR, while on Titan GT77HX it gets to 600 nits in SDR?
No far from it, the Titan got the mechanical switches. It is also a different panel!
ur reviews a great really
Thank you Tazwar!
Hi just asking how w for gpu and cpu? How much total? It’s going to be 250?
Hi all, whats the name of the tech you mentioned that makes Asus mini-led screens usable for photo editing ? does asus strix scar scar nebula HDR has it ? thanks
HI Marc, Asus is the only manufacturer (for now) that allows their MiniLED panels to be used as a single zone backlight, which helps a lot when doing colour-critical stuff. It is a setting in their armoury crate software. But remember this is only relevant when it comes to MiniLED panels.
At this point, any Nvidia card with 10gb ram with i9 intel and 64gb ram should only cost 3500 CAD at the very most and includes touch screen is a must with a decent pen. Otherwise, too expensive for what we're getting
I guess they reserve touchscreens and pens for their creator line-up.
@@NotebookcheckReviews Yea but I mean in general for all companies. From this review, I noticed 3080 ti stacks up very well with an i9 12 or 13 gen. Can you recommend 1-3 laptops based on your reviews that have the num keypad with good price/performance ratio? I mainly do motion design and photography and would be great if one had touch/pen support as well. I'd really appreciate any help as I'm in the market to buy something in the next few months.
Can you please confirm that the noise samples are calibrated correctly to the volume of your voice? I ask because some review measured 62dB as the maximum noise while your sound sample lets the full fan speed sound roughly like 45dB...! Too good to be true, or is it? Below, I suppose the noise samples are calibrated correctly.
The 4080 @ (80+25)W compute / work speeds are ok and the noise is very good. Therefore, I would buy the MSI Stealth 17 if it were a creator notebook with at most 16:10, ordinarily sized arrow (and numpad) keys and without seal sticker on any of the chassis screws.
The weak hinge is a concern. I do not know yet if cleaning the fans is easy or hard.
I do not understand why this notebook is so rather silent. It does not have any of vapor chamber, liquid metal or 4 fans. Instead, it is 20mm thin. Something can't be right. In the review, you do not sound overly excited about the noise level, either.
Maybe, 13900H can run low in GPU heavy tasks and 4080 @ 105W is sufficiently efficient indeed. If so, a vapor chamber would make things even better. ---robert jasiek
I have no way of measuring the noise sample proberly yet. So it is more of a subjective representation of the laptop's relative noise, compared to keyboard presses.
That said (again, subjectively) the 62db you mentioned does sound way too loud.
I felt like the Stealth was instead "quiet" for the performance it provides.
I was driving it daily for about 2 weeks and mostly left it in performance mode while working (video-editing/retouching) since the fan noise wasn't bothering me.
That said, I feel like I have a higher-than-usual toleriance for notebook noice if I get the performance I require. ;)
@@NotebookcheckReviews Just curios: why does it take so long for NBC providing you with noise measurement tools? On Idealo, there are some for ca. €25, but probably I am too naive and gauging might be a problem and require more expensive tools. --robert jasiek
Hi Robert, it is a process. Our test equipment is standardized across all writers, and so are our procedures. Since I am publishing 1-2 reviews on the channel per week, I also need to make time to implement the testing AND filming into my workflow, so it takes some time.
We want to do it right and not rush anything! :)
And its a LOT more than 25 Bucks ...
Oof, that hinge doesn't look too promising. Otherwise looks like a nice laptop.
Yeah, I do not think it will break or anything. It just seems like a weaker spot, while the notebook is otherwise extremely solid. I liked it a lot during my time with it!
would u be doing a review on the msi raider ge68 hx??
I will see what we can do!
how about the new stealth 16 studio. if possible pls review that pls
Already in the works!
This or MacBook Pro, M3 Pro, 36BG ?
How much of a power bump do you think the 4090 model would give compared to this one?
Good question. I am currently testing a Legion Pro 7 with a 4090. It runs at around 100W in its balanced profile. I will try to do a few tests in the review at that wattage!
Apart from that, we did not test any "low-wattage" 4090s yet.
I don't understand how this screen can be 46ms?
And does 2500 Hz PWM cause headaches and eye pain? I bought this but I haven't opened the box yet. Should I return it?
I do graphic design and besides that, I only play FIFA as a game.
What other models would you recommend at this price?
The MiniLEDs do make it quite hard for us the exactly measure the displays response times. If PWM will be a problem for you is a highly subjective and personal matter, so you can only try it for yourself.
The ROG M16 might be interesting for you, or the Legion Pro 7s/9i.
46 ms, You are absolutely sure about the response time, right? @@NotebookcheckReviews
Mate, I am also PWM sensitive user, Does this 4k screen cause you eye strain and dizzy?@@ncdtkrts
For professional commerciol creator which laptop is there 🤔 mac asus legion?
Hard to say, since it really depends what you are doing for work.
Price?
Please check you local retailer or the link in the description for updated prices!
The only laptop I'm waiting for this year is the rumored Surface Laptop Studio 2. If the "leaked" specs is true, I'm saying goodbye to my Alienware m15, iPad Pro, and Huion Kamvas 22.
What are the leaks saying?
@@NotebookcheckReviews A massive performance boost thanks to Intel Core i7-13800H and RTX 4060. It's enough for me as a digital artist and gaming when I have some free time. The first model's CPU made me buy a gaming laptop + display tablet instead.
Totally agreed man, if the leaks specs are true, for a digital artist we literaly can throw many side cars for our works 😂
Aand 3d sculpter as well
Does this laptop have PCie 5 ports?
Do not quote me on it, but I think only the Titan GT77 comes with PCIe NVME slots.
What song is playing in the background?
TINAMINA - Firecracker St :)
Price: 5000 Euro??? Wtf happened to laptops LOL. Where is that justified. If you're a gamer, you could get a way cheaper desktop. If you're a creator, you can get a better performing MBP M1 for less than 2000 Euro. Crazy lol
While I agree that the Stealth is considerably overpriced, that age old laptop vs desktop discussion is getting old. And while the M1 is a great SOC it will not give you better performance in all creative applications and the Macbook Pro has some limitation in this regard as well!
Why the fake voice????
Why the trolling? ;)
Hi, is there a strix g16 4080 review coming soon? The website claims insane battery life of 9 hours running a 13980hx!!!
I hope these numbers stand. Can anyone confirm?
Also waiting for the review!! Every day I keep checking 😅
Yes there is one coming! I can just not promise you when, but I am already working on it! :)