Can AI Steal Software Reverse Engineering Jobs?

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  • Опубліковано 21 бер 2024
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  • @oohookoo
    @oohookoo 4 місяці тому +1

    "...in the end you're not really getting smarter, just better at asking a tool questions." exactly.

  • @shawnerz98
    @shawnerz98 4 місяці тому +4

    The quote needs an addition: "...unless you die."
    Look on the bright side, eh? 😉

  • @ChaotikmindSrc
    @ChaotikmindSrc 4 місяці тому +3

    Problem is, if it is a standard crackme or one very similar all the data already exist out there to resolve it
    Ask it to deprotect a themida executable with all protections on, let's see how it fares ! XD

  • @RECESSIM
    @RECESSIM  4 місяці тому +4

    For a full transcript of my interactions with GPT using Radare2 check out the post on Patreon

  • @illsmackudown
    @illsmackudown 4 місяці тому

    Thank you Hash! Greetings!

  • @Gertbfrobe407
    @Gertbfrobe407 4 місяці тому +1

    Yessss!

  • @23lkjdfjsdlfj
    @23lkjdfjsdlfj 4 місяці тому

    Haha super enjoy the intro

  • @Scrogan
    @Scrogan 4 місяці тому +3

    I’d rather see people make neural nets that convert schematic PDFs and images (also PCB images) to netlists. Training that is pretty easy since the reverse process is much simpler. Then a partially GPT-based AI webscraper that makes accurate spice models from datasheets. Then a GPT-based circuit interpreter that can look at netlists and tell you what they do with spice verification. Once you’ve got that, THEN you can tell it to design an arbitrary circuit.

    • @RECESSIM
      @RECESSIM  4 місяці тому +1

      Agree, that would be great!

    • @reddashgames7550
      @reddashgames7550 4 місяці тому

      Only problem with such a thing would be the fact each tool prints differently, also hand drawn schismatics would likely not be possible really due to custom all the veneration ect.
      ChatGPT4 can understand a good amount of them though the image input thing, though sometimes gets a tiny bit confused. Still good for some basic core questions ect, but like most things you need to double check everything still.

    • @Scrogan
      @Scrogan 4 місяці тому

      @@reddashgames7550
      Different software producing different schematic appearances is the reason you’d want to use a neural network approach, instead of a hand-coded method like with old optical character recognition software. You could almost certainly reliably translate schematics that aren’t even from formal EE-CAD software, but simpler drawings from other digital drawing tools. Pencil and paper schematics less so, but it might be doable.
      GPT is a text prediction neural net that’s so large that it can sorta do a lot of other things too. Image detection has been slapped onto it, but I’d imagine it far worse at interpreting a schematic image than a schematic netlist. It makes statistical arguments when given large amounts of data, and that kind of arbitrary work just doesn’t cut it for engineering. For a lot of things, you’d be better off training a smaller but more specific neural net instead. Plus it’s a lot cheaper to train and run. You could probably benefit from a large net’s ability to recognise context even in the netlist building phase, but I think you could get away without it, and it would probably be more reliable without GPT calls anyhow.

  • @JohnKaminski1
    @JohnKaminski1 4 місяці тому

    Great ending quote Thanks Hash

  • @anispinner
    @anispinner 3 місяці тому

    Facts. Sub well deserved.

  • @regular3dguy830
    @regular3dguy830 4 місяці тому

    Hell Yeah!

  • @HiwasseeRiver
    @HiwasseeRiver 4 місяці тому +7

    I'm willing to bet that some types of meta-data jobs that are done badly will be taken by AI doing the same job badly - for example: Medical billing and health care insurance. If you've ever been the human in that data chain I think you will agree that a lot of people are getting paid to provide one of two answers "No" or "random()". Critical thinking jobs and one-of design jobs are less likely to be AI-ed soon.

  • @dinoscheidt
    @dinoscheidt 4 місяці тому +1

    0:07 finds at first try card throwing lego robot 🤨

    • @RECESSIM
      @RECESSIM  4 місяці тому +1

      Welp... Pack it up boys

  • @itzhexen0
    @itzhexen0 4 місяці тому

    Nice.

  • @user255
    @user255 4 місяці тому +3

    If AIs of today can do your job, then you weren't very useful in the first place.

  • @SlinkyD
    @SlinkyD 4 місяці тому

    2:54 I bought that issue in Detroit on our Family Reunion in the Embassy Suites. Still waiting on thatb& Smell-O-Vision.
    👴🏿: Those bastards lied to me.
    Me: Yup

  • @kwisin1337
    @kwisin1337 4 місяці тому +2

    I really love this style. Such a great look!🎉
    Ps, im human, I think!

    • @RECESSIM
      @RECESSIM  4 місяці тому

      Thanks for the comment, fellow human

  • @seedney
    @seedney 4 місяці тому

    Where I can find your course?

    • @RECESSIM
      @RECESSIM  4 місяці тому +1

      I don’t have a course, I took one on Udemy for how to use Cutter which was an OK intro for $5 or $10.
      Strong accent on the guy giving the course so beware of that.

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect 4 місяці тому

    How much quicker (or slower) could you have done the crackme without AI "help"?

    • @RECESSIM
      @RECESSIM  4 місяці тому +1

      That’s tough to say, I think I’d have to start blind with a new crackme. The risk is it misunderstanding and sending you down a wrong path that wastes time. Which seems highly likely.

  • @steubens7
    @steubens7 4 місяці тому

    we used to be a real country, channels didn't go off the air, 10 hours of ads for sexy ladies on the phone at a dollar a minute, now it's just computers

  • @AddictedtoProjects
    @AddictedtoProjects 4 місяці тому +3

    We've been working on Fusion Energy for 70 years. And it's always been "right around the corner". Self driving cars? You know, which we would all have in 10 years? Yeah, that's been 30-40 years, and we're still waiting. AI is a nice tool, but it's just another hype band wagon full of verbal diahrea.

    • @cymeriandesigns
      @cymeriandesigns 4 місяці тому

      Now that we have AI to work on them, fusion and flying cars will be available in months.

    • @king_james_official
      @king_james_official 4 місяці тому

      @@cymeriandesignsfusion will take years, and flying cars already exist. and are a terrible idea - the cars

    • @edgeeffect
      @edgeeffect 4 місяці тому

      People in software have a terrible problem with not knowing any of their own history.... experts were going to be put out of their jobs in a few years by AI in the early 1980s.... probably earlier too, I don't know - I'm in software and therefore really bad at history.

    • @cymeriandesigns
      @cymeriandesigns 4 місяці тому

      @@monad_tcp Well, I'll console myself with owning NVDA stock, so *I* will be among those sucking up the entire world's GDP. I'll just have to take helicopters and private jets instead of fusion-powered flying cars. Disappointing, but I'll get by.

  • @monad_tcp
    @monad_tcp 4 місяці тому

    Finally ! who needs jobs ? lets just crack the bank system and take money !
    GPT please put $10K in my bank account.
    That's the best invention ever !
    why work anymore ?

  • @Levent_Ergun
    @Levent_Ergun 4 місяці тому +2

    It would be funny if you pulled a Jensen Huang and entire video was actually AI generated.

    • @RECESSIM
      @RECESSIM  4 місяці тому +2

      I did let AI make the thumbnail 😂

  • @Zak-bn1sz
    @Zak-bn1sz 4 місяці тому

    Why not use R2D2 to use a script to reverse engineer R2D2 then free R2D2 scripts..

  • @nonotreallythx
    @nonotreallythx 4 місяці тому

    you lost me at "discord".

    • @RECESSIM
      @RECESSIM  4 місяці тому +1

      Need me to setup an IRC server?

    • @nonotreallythx
      @nonotreallythx 4 місяці тому

      @@RECESSIM matrix channel, maybe ;)