DX commander signature 9 on a flat roof with the Icom ic-7610 can that 🤔

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
  • Finding a replacement for the 4 element multi-band yagi was not difficult, I can only go vertical on a flat roof. After watching many UA-cam videos I decided to buy one, the signature 9 was perfect for me, being self supporting, Martin Lynch and son UK 🇬🇧 gave a quick and efficient service 👍🏻. Was 500 euros inclusief 90 euros inport tax and postage. First impressions are very positive, good quality materials, easy to put up,almost plug and play 👍. For my situation it seems the more radials the better, but only to a point. Initial Conclusion good value, receives and transmitted well,and easily taken down. In my situation i found 2 common mode chokes were very effective in reducing RF in my shack for more information Google...PA9X lots of useful tips 👍🏻however I will make a follow up video in a couple of months, hopefully this has been useful to someone 73s from Rotterdam 🙏

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  • @DXCommanderHQ
    @DXCommanderHQ 5 місяців тому +8

    I approve! ❤😂

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому

      @@DXCommanderHQ Good morning 🙏 thanks for the comment,73s from Rotterdam 👍🏻

    • @Andy-up6li
      @Andy-up6li 3 місяці тому +1

      You are the Mannnnn

    • @M6JKW
      @M6JKW 2 місяці тому

      😂😂😂😂

  • @chuck_N4SHO
    @chuck_N4SHO 5 місяців тому +2

    Nice to see an installation on a rooftop. I am glad you take storms into account, not just for winds but for lightning.

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому

      @@chuck_N4SHO Hi,thanks for your comments, we are not getting any youger a 30kg yagi was getting a bit to much, 73s from Rotterdam 🙏

  • @Andy-up6li
    @Andy-up6li 3 місяці тому +1

    Very good video Thanks.
    You are the first person that I have seen put this antenna on the roof of the house or building. I think more people would buy this antenna if they could install it on there roof top

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  3 місяці тому +1

      @@Andy-up6li Hi,thanks for your comments, it seems to perform better than expected, 73s from Rotterdam 🙃

  • @sramakrishnan6054
    @sramakrishnan6054 5 місяців тому +1

    Congratulations uncle John! you are obviously becoming more famous not only on 40m but also on youtube with your new vertical! hi hi

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому +1

      @@sramakrishnan6054 Hi thanks for the comments ,catch up with you soon 73s from Rotterdam 🙏

  • @jonpg1jsf118
    @jonpg1jsf118 5 місяців тому +1

    Good installation there John.
    I also have a Sig 9 and they do work well, and I look forward to our next QSO.
    Like you I especially like the speed of upsy / downy in the event of poor weather.
    I also take it down when I am not playing radio so no one can complain, ( and also not to fall foul of the UK planning regulations. )

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому

      @@jonpg1jsf118 Hi,thanks for your comments, I am hopeful that 20 meter high and very little in the way, it should perform very well, time will tell,,,73s from Rotterdam 🙏

  • @M0JSX
    @M0JSX 5 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic stuff! Excellent work!

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому +1

      @@M0JSX Good afternoon 😊 thanks for the comments 73s from Rotterdam 🙏

  • @G5STU
    @G5STU 5 місяців тому +2

    nice job Bernard

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому +1

      @@G5STU thanks it seems like it was a good decision 👍

  • @DK5ONV
    @DK5ONV 5 місяців тому +1

    Excellent Setup! 💯👌 73 de Uncle Günter 🙋‍♂

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому

      @@DK5ONV Good evening Mr Gunter thanks for your comment, I am curious next time we speak what signal report you give, 73s from Rotterdam 🙏

  • @TonyM7CVK
    @TonyM7CVK 5 місяців тому +1

    Nice install chap I will listen for you on 40m band my DXC Rapide has been up around 4 months now and no issues other than me mower over a few ground radials its performance has been very impressive so far. M7CVK Tony

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому +1

      @@TonyM7CVK Good morning 🙏, thanks for your comments, initially i am impressed with the materials was it performed very well, maybe the hight also helps, 73s from Rotterdam 👍🏻

    • @TonyM7CVK
      @TonyM7CVK 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Bernard-John Bernard you took down the yagi was that due to your noise floor or planning reasons? I have been playing with a wire delta loop cut for 40m band it covers down to 10 with a home made 4/1 lucky my noise floor on most bands is pretty low, I am also seeing the lines on several band’s strange conditions currently but still getting a few in the log the FT710 is working well. Tony M7CVK

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому +1

      @@TonyM7CVK Good Afternoon thanks for your comments, it's more my age the yagi was 30kg and the maintenance was getting a bit difficult, at my apartment I can only go vertical, and living in the centre of Rotterdam don't help with the noise level, but we do the best we can, hopefully you can sort things out with your shack, 73s from Rotterdam 🙏.

  • @brianfields4479
    @brianfields4479 5 місяців тому +1

    thanks for sharing. I only use vertical ants for long haul dx, mine is in the tree,s and bushes and right next to a wood shed, but still gets long haul dx every day. ferrite clamps also work really well on both ends of the coax for noise reduction. 73 zl3xdj.

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому

      @@brianfields4479 Good morning, unfortunately I can't go horizontally only vertical, I was a bit apprehensive at first, but I am happy I made the decision, seems to receive very well,,,for the rest I guess I will find out over time, 😊 73s from Rotterdam 🙏

  • @Orthodoxuk
    @Orthodoxuk 2 місяці тому

    I had to mount mine on my highest decking which placed the antenna about half a metre off the ground. The only effect I noticed was all the tunings came out low but that was fairly easy to resolve except 15m which was slightly more involved using Callums fix.

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  2 місяці тому

      @@Orthodoxuk Hi ,I am going to use the 30m element as a dedicated 15m or make it for 80m 🤔 ,the swr on 40m is good but on 15m swr between 3 and 4, but maybe wait for warmer weather, thanks for your comments, 73s from Rotterdam 🙏

  • @iu1olr
    @iu1olr Місяць тому +1

    Hi, after 3 months the antenna is still fixed on the roof of your house? I found your video very interesting even if it lacks transmission tests, I have limited space on the roof and I was thinking about a solution like this, I also saw your video on the sigma 360 but I think this is a more performing solution without a doubt. How does it behave with the wind? Have you put up any guy ropes in view of the winter? I would use it mainly for the 40 meter band. Thanks for all your information

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  Місяць тому +1

      @@iu1olr Good afternoon, unfortunately I found transmission test are not relevant because our working conditions are different,,,I got the model without guy line's, easy to take down in storms, the sigma 360 is very compromised and only in emergency conditions, if you are working 40m mostly there must be cheaper alternatives to the DX COMMANDER ANTENNA,,I am curious what you decide to do,,,,73s from Rotterdam 🙏

    • @iu1olr
      @iu1olr Місяць тому

      @ Do you have any valid alternatives to suggest to me to think about?!

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  Місяць тому

      @iu1olr Hi I would suggest type into UA-cam for example 1/4 wave vertical for 40m and see what happens, good luck 👍

  • @donalfinn4205
    @donalfinn4205 5 місяців тому +1

    Use an elasticated strainer to spread the elements at the bottom and you can do all your adjustments without taking it down. I made my own using a much stronger Spiderbeam pole and I’ve never had to take it down for adjusting. Much better job.

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому +1

      @@donalfinn4205 Hi thanks for the tip, but while I am sorting out the radials, I am using a ATU it's the lazy way, and adjusting the swr can wait till next week 👍🏻73s from Rotterdam 🙏

  • @joeloughrey2626
    @joeloughrey2626 4 місяці тому +1

    Hi John/Bernard. Great video. You mention ecoflex 15 you use for radials
    but I can't see a link. Can you give me a link to the twin copper cable you used? Thank you. Joe M0JEL

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  4 місяці тому

      @@joeloughrey2626 Good afternoon and thanks for your comments 😊, unfortunately maybe I wasn't to clear, I am using ecoflex 15 as a feed from the shack to the antenna,,,,radials are from Amazon, 20 euros for 200m copper speaker cable, hope I answered your inquiry, 73s from Rotterdam 🙏

    • @joeloughrey2626
      @joeloughrey2626 4 місяці тому

      @@Bernard-John Thank you for your reply and I forgot to say a really detailed video. Do you have a link to the cable you used? I am really thinking of getting one of these signature 9s based on your video. Thank you.

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  4 місяці тому

      @@joeloughrey2626 Hi,sorry I don't have a link, try Google search,,,,73s from Rotterdam 🙏

  • @PhilON4VP
    @PhilON4VP 5 місяців тому +1

    Hi Bernard,
    More radials will add some bandwidth and little better SWR. Also radials between 3,5 and 4 meters will do fine. To short is not so good. Normally two wavelenghts for the lowest band will have very nice results both in SWR as in signal and bandwidth.
    I must say that you have rather high noise floor at your location. Over here my place is more rural and most bands are very quiet. The lines on the waterfall sometimes refer to solar panels. I'm looking at this antenna to. I have a 23m endfed hove wave (80-40-20-15-10) in inverted-L configuration and would like to add a second antenna being a vertical.
    I have been experimenting with the Rybakov antenna with 4:1 UNUN and even a smaller 6,25m antenna. This especially for 10-12 &nd sometimes 15 meter bands. So far at 10 and 12 meters the vertical is performing very good but on lower bands the longwire wins over the vertical. The reason I'm looking at the DX Commander is that it's a multiband vetical resonant on severla bands including WARC bands.
    I don't know if you implemented 30 meters. I heard from some hams this band can detune some other bands.
    I sent you an email also with some questions. I will make a decission soon buying the Signature 9 or not.
    Thanks for this video. Keep us informed on tuning the elements and results.
    73 Philippe ON4VP

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому

      @@PhilON4VP Good afternoon interesting comments, due to the heavy maintenance and the fact I just want a easy life, I opted for this model, it just works and is easy to repair/adjust , the 30m band will be replaced with a 19.? meter element for 80m. The idea is hopefully this is the last antenna I need to buy, good materials and works out the box 📦,,,73s from Rotterdam 🙏

    • @PhilON4VP
      @PhilON4VP 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Bernard-John Good to hear. I'm getting more and more interested in this Sig 9. You ordered via ML&s. Did you arrange to pay the tax in advance or did you pay import in the Netherlands ? 73 Philippe

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому

      @@PhilON4VP Good morning, at Martin Lynch and son there's an opportunity to pay all the taxes in advance, it makes things easier, let me know how it goes, 73s from Rotterdam 🙏

  • @ZonaEA
    @ZonaEA 5 місяців тому +1

    Nice setup with such rooftop. I have noticed only strongs signals are captured. have you got the REF as default? I think is so low because it is not displayed at waterfall and have a S7-8 noise floor. Anyway... nice antenna!! GOOD JOB!!! Greetings from Spain, EA4GTF.

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому

      @@ZonaEA Good morning, thanks for your comments, unfortunately living in a big city in appartements has its own issues, mostly high noise floor, the common mode chokes help,we do the best we can,,,73s from Rotterdam 🙏

  • @kuyakano8976
    @kuyakano8976 5 місяців тому

    You will have to go by memory of course, but how would you compare this new vertical to your previous horizontal antenna, signal to noise ratio wise?

  • @johnratcliffe6438
    @johnratcliffe6438 5 місяців тому +1

    What is your waterfall span set to there?

    • @Bernard-John
      @Bernard-John  5 місяців тому +1

      @@johnratcliffe6438 Good morning,,,I set up the scope to show the full band, so I can see what is going on, 73s from Rotterdam 🙏