The experience of no self is far more profound than I thought
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Our world is overloaded with too much noise, drama, knowledge. When the mind is still you are free to be.
The body doesn't lie, the mind will play games. We are brought up too believe that all can be understood thru the mind, but the body intelligence is superior.
Spending time in nature is always a blessing, mentally and spiritually.
It’s emptiness. Nothingness. Suchness. The is-ness.
Direct observation of this is so relieving. The narrator in our head creates so much contraction, stress, heaviness, suffering.
Such a harmful affliction, to believe you are that thinker.
As you get more and more glimpses of that truth, getting free from the thinker becomes the only thing worthwhile in your eyes. This is becoming disillusioned with the material world. Everything takes a back seat, and the only thing of any interest to you is dissolving this delusion we’re stuck in. The autopilot daydreaming
Yes brother! This. Pure simplicity, "perfection" and completely non-"spiritual" and just what it is by itself for no one, and unknowable but yet exactly just what it is and all that is. Including the arising volitions and feelings and intentions, all part of the self-luminous happeningness. But when the unobserved wounded inner child creates and occupies and protects a virtual seat of identity, damned if the whole display doesn't seeemingly collapse into a point of view in the head or chest that seems to be the central point of view, the doer, and the defender against THAT outside. A beautiful expression of the unexpressible brother 🙏
Beautifully said brother
I’m a first time listener. I understand what you are saying. I have moments of clarity and a feeling of absolute peace. Im walking this path, I am no longer afraid because there is nothing to fear. It’s the way to liberation. I’m firmly convinced and your video is more evidence it is attainable. So thank you 🙏
If you’re talking about fear you still have fear.
The knowledge that have been passed on to us from generations creates a self and then experiences it as seperate from what there is.
When it dawns on you that there’s no self/ i /seperate centre/entity /ego/awareness /witness whatever we call it , the demand to deny/accept it also goes down spontaneously.
There’s just life after that.
Man I've watched this video probably five times now. Somehow despite the informal nature of your delivery and language used etc... this transmits ass good as any message from the sages. So thankful for you my friend
The "selfing mechanism " is a helpful phase.😊
Thank you for this offering. Something is falling away and I’m either dragging or not allowing. But the doer is falling away and now trauma is coming up. And I’m going at the trauma now. I never would have believed I have been living in trauma.
So it’s helpful to see this type of video. 😊
Again…. Many thanks
Wow...congrats!!!
This sounds as a profound and fresh awakening. Thank you for sharing and pointing out that we need to go through the shadows
Spot on! I’ve been releasing trauma for myself and my clients in the past few years’ the right way’ by meeting the pain or delusion but not running with the story from the mind that wants you to be the character. What results is a palpable sense of lightness and emptiness of being inside, so that gradually it becomes more and more obvious that nothing matters! My catchphrase is is that thinking is avoiding the void…yet our being craves it, because it’s eternal peace 😊
that looks like tele tubby land!!!!❤❤❤❤
Maybe it is!
@@Davidmcdonald1❤❤❤
Find Real Self. There Is Love ❤️
The environment replaces you... the fact that awareness is so hard to explain, yet u managed to find the right words..describing the non dual state to someone who doesn t know what it is it s crazy 😂. I often use the word merging with the environment, but still doesn t seem like the truth either. Thanks, ur video has put me easily into stillness `mode`. 🕉
I get what you mean when you say it leaves everything alone. Everything gets to just be itself without being watched or interpreted or analyzed or even experienced. Yes not great words but you know what I mean.❤
Thank god there's no answers ❤
Beautiful man! So clear and love the reminder that however awake one might feel it’s the shadow work that will unpick the final hiding places which might still be holding onto to the thinnest veils of a self. And yet each time one investigates there is realisation that there is no one there - just more passing thoughts, beliefs, feelings and emotions… more passing appearances in you that is not an appearance and that never goes anywhere. 24/7 always open for is-ness! 🎉
Brilliant video. Thanks for the encouragement
Poop self is not just extreme pleasure. Poop self is the realization of immortality and the realization that everything is heaven. When you realize that, it's so good, it's infinitely good. It's not just good. It's good to the infinite degree. It's so much goodness that you can't contain it. your body can't hold it. Your entire body shakes and shudders in a cosmic orgasm of bliss. It's perfection. It's total peace. It's absolute love, that's truly poop self.
Beautiful sky.
This video has caused glimpses for me! Thank you! ❤ merely to listen to your descrption takes me into a eternity like deep presence. Transmission can be so powerful 😮
Everything synchronizes in complete harmony
The experience of no self is exactly the same experience as being self, because there wasn't one to begin with
Bull 6
Now you are comfortable residing in the heart, feeling oneness with the environment. Try being in varied public places and feeling oneness with people. Feel them. Live through them. Probably some judgements will rise up eventually, which are rooted in your upbringing. Look closely at those, they are roots of your emotions, your core suffering. You must choose to let go of all personal feelings. See your addiction to them, see their role, and choose if you want them.
Bull 7
Next, once you can maintain the state alone, outside and around people, and without effort, and the feeling of fascination has gone… The only thing left to go is ‘love’. The desire to live and aid others. The clinging to life. You must come to see life and death with truthful eyes. Only then can the ego fully dissolve. This will require fearless dedication to live the truth, and readiness to die. Many do die at this stage. If desire to grow has got you this far, you will go no further.
beautiful description, thank you for sharing these insights. what is meant by “you will go no further?” if you don’t mind being asked❤
Zen 10 Bulls 😍
the buddha did not teach “no self.” he taught “not self.” he also did not teach it as an ultimate truth, but as a practice to loosen attachment to views. in other teachings he taught about the true self. if you can put it into words it isnt it. teachings are only tools or suggestions, not concepts to be caught by.
thanks a lot
Thanks David. ❤️
sounds wow, you've such talent in explaining what can't be explained, love it ❤
Was that moo at the end!? Nice video man thank you!
No self is thera-peutic. You escape momentarily all selfishness.
You did very well explaining the unexplainable
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You are so amazing, best content on the internet
Subjective much?
Gratitude 🙏 ❤
Man is made in his image.... no man, just an image.
A good ramble💫
David
All life in its different forms exists as it does because universal elements allow us to the sun energized world 🌎 with our moon 🌝
So I would imagine no self is what we were before life appeared here on our sun energized world 🌍
Just a thought David love Colin
Lots of universal love everyone Colin 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
Buddhism is more matter of fact than people think.
Suffering is caused by resistance to what is.
Resistance of what is, is caused by a misunderstanding.
Love it ❤
Thanks, this helped me a lot
Lately, when I get brief moments of "non duality" or whatever it is, it isn't beautiful or depressing, but it does feel "weird". It feels like the world is artificial, but also alive at the same time. Like "there's just no way things are this real". I'm imagining a Lego man waking up and realizing he's made of Legos. Everything looks plastic all of the sudden, but it will also look the opposite, like "fleshy" or "meaty". And I think the realness of it all makes me afraid and I'll disassociate again into thoughts. And then the self will say "oh crap I should be trying to investigate my fears" but I can't make it happen again. It's always kinda random
I heard that in some eastern teachings they use the word illusion when talking about the mind made concepts/evaluations and even the minds image of the world. Also the phrase "nothing real can be threatened and nothing unreal exists" comes to mind.
I think through deep realization, you see things differently, but you can still play around in the world of form, concepts and other people, it's just not as serious or heavy anymore.
The mind is of course threatened by this loss of mental labels and concepts. It's what the mind is. The experience of non duality can mean death for mind/ego, and it very much wants to stay alive. It may create fear, want, thought streams.. to in a way, "throw itself a life ring" and keep a float
No thought❤
Wow this makes perfect since to me.
Who is experiencing the "no-self" ?
While trying to experience Real Self.
I used to believe this too, deeply. Until one day, Jesus opened my eyes. I know youy will probably discard this, but I hope and pray you will ask Him to show you the REAL truth about existence, despite what you may believe. Because, my friend, what you think you know now, is merely another belief system. been there, done that. Trust me, been in that for years, and through circumstance I called upon Him, and everything just became exponentially more clear than what you believe NOW about what you are (that there is no self, etc). You STILL are a unique soul, created for a purpose, and this beliefsystem diminishes it severely. Pray and SEEK for the REAL truth! No matter WHAT!
It’s funny, I’ve been exactly where you are? A Christian fundamentalist, yet came to the opposite conclusion.
If you disturb on purpose a soul it will be in destruction disturbed! Get away every time
Nature won’t hate you
If anyone has an true experience of no self he won t reveal it or speak about it to anybody!
Including the Buddha?
@@Davidmcdonald1 those kind of realized beings don't wish to do anything but people come to them naturally begging for help.
Nonsense, he or she may or may not speak about it, no one knows the path or possibilities of another. You’re welcome.
But to nobody
Maybe U See nobody in the video who is talkin there ;)
True harmony is when I'm not there
An "experience" of the self, is just a phenomena appearing in the self...
Shakti and shiva🙏
You explained that well I would say ' The Tao that can be named 'as in explained and talked about' is not the real Tao, and all that stuff
The world is a vampire,know you if you can
i aooreciate your last episode when you spoke on integration. could you speak about how you started integration this truth?
No self sounds kind of "cold" intellectually. Experientially, I wouldn't know 😂. Still working on that kensho bit. This video is helpful though. It sounds like the embodiment of no self is one hell of an experience/non experience/ whatever it is
Yeah it’s very hard to speak about, but it’s where this leads. Profoundly mysterious
Who's experiencing 'no self'?
The conceptual self doesn’t point to anything separate or unchanging or inherently real.
It’s getting the light to align with space and all will be one and that is love.
When Jesus is one with god, in the infinite moment
And there are no movements or moments.
We are all made different from our print that goes back to the blueprint god
Dude is overwhelmed by first experience with shrооms.
A true state of no self is impossible to reach while we having our bodies. Even when your perception is severly altered through strongest psychedelics - your body still affects your perception.
I think what he describes is being in the body only, and no mind "homunculus" interfering. I think it is just a state difficult to attain with or without drugs, and most psychedelics intensifies the mind (for me) and twists and warps it, but doesn't remove it. I experienced immense stillness of the mind only a handful of times in my life. They were without drugs, and for no apparent reason. It felt like there was nothing, but only life as it is.
Just be careful now, don't identify with this experience. This experience is just a pointer to what is possible, blessings or grace of sorts. It's quite easy to misunderstand it. I had a period for well over few months living like that some fourty years ago. It will eventually ask you to jump in head forward, all the way to the death of the self. It is totally different commitment, i think it's all about growth. Just be careful and courageous, you will need both.
Isn’t it “not self”? Which has an entirely different meaning. The Buddha never said there is no self.
He said that the aggregates are Not Self.
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1. How do we attain what you are describing?
2. Can we get out of it if we wanted to ( irrespective of how enjoyable that state might be)?
3. How different is it from getting stoned?
hi cuz❤
I am not stabilized in the no-self “mode” but having had a several hour period and many shorter glimpses, it’s rather funny to dispute “what it means”. It simply doesn’t mean. It doesn’t mean nothing, and it doesn’t “lack” meaning. It’s just not a relevant question.
It’s like asking what the word ethereal smells like, and then arguing endlessly about it.
It doesn’t.
It simply IS and EVEN THAT is somehow saying too much.
Non duality police are out... The Buddha called it his enlightenment experience. lol
It just happens
You have no self until you find yourself then you will be known!?
Maybe the bird 🦅 that was following you around was able to see through your clear and wide open sight and was staying close so as to enjoy the view!
Can you please make more video about experiencing the no self. I understand what you are saying but the experience is not as deep as you said. Thank you.
its just an experience
Bahia Sutra seems a lot like Radical non duality What do you think about it?
How do you find these deep seated emotions that are keeping one asleep? I can't figure out what I haven't dealt with yet. I have done 1000s of hours on retreat and at home meditating and have plenty of wild and interesting experiences but I am only interested in awakening and the end to suffering. But this emotional/shadow work aspect eludes me.
I would recommend checking out my other videos on IFS, focusing, my interview with dr Tori olds
@@Davidmcdonald1 Thanks, I'll have a look.
Hello David how to start this "work" how to see thru self? I am on this path for 11 years now and I didint have experience of no self.
When you stop seeking, full awareness will reveal itself naturally. It is more of “undoing” rather than a “doing.”
Give can you give me the name of Bernadette roberts book?
Where is this going? When I feel into it I get hit with a fear wave 🌊. This Remembering. Or Awakening. It’s happening because this is the Season Finale of Humans on Earth episode ♾️ 😅
And, that’s ok too? I feel like from an infinite perspective we will go at it again because it’s what we Love to do. By when I think of my kids I can’t help but resist this. It’s a huge fist 👊 in my gut that says “fuck no. Not this.” Probably hence the fear wave 🌊 I use to not post. Fear of being wrong, ridiculed or looking stupid but I’m over it. I’m willing to pay the price of expressing myself. Fears, questions, and all.
I realize now you might not know that at the very end of this video you said “it becomes very very obvious where this is going”. Hence my first comment/question
is IFS equivalent to Jungian "shadow work" then ???
Lot of meister Eckhart in what you are saying
Why we have to live in the illusion? What is the body? What are thoughts?
Because its fun.
@@caravan3636 can anybody know what thoughts actually are? Even if they are enlightened? Probably not.
@@ChrisTina-yc5fh Um. Its just noise you make in your head that you can recognize the meaning of. As in i think "i need milk" and um, then i go buy milk. Umm, thats about it. You can make mental images using your mind, and when science progresses enough for the studying of the mind we will know more i suppose.
John butler
So, who experiences "no self" if there is "no self"?
The conceptual self,realises there is no inherent self.
Well, duh! 😂
I don't understand. What do you mean by no self? Is it the same as person who is so attentive that he is absorved by the activity -- sports, games, painting, etc? By "no self" do you mean a state of awareness where there is no sense of seperateness?
There's no continuous "self" that exists throughout time. There can be momentary sensations of being a self but it fluctuates throughout the day, coming and going. The only self you can be aware of is a thought constructed by the mind, or in other words, there's no self outside of thought.
It's all consciousness... appearing to be real. A play of energies and appearances.
@@jonahbranch5625 Thought requires memory to function though. In that case is the 'self' is constituted by the memory, identifications, ideology, habits, knowledge, experience, etc? If that's the case then I think it would make sense to describe the 'self' as the 'past' analysing and reacting to the present circumstances and projecting the future.
@@009AZZA009 sure, that's a fine definition by my book. In that case self is more of a verb than an object, but still just a thought at the end of the day. All verbs or ideas are just constructions by the mind and only exist in the mind. No-self is probably just when it is seen to be a construction so you no longer identify as it
@@jonahbranch5625 I guess it sounds more like a verb, although I didn't intended to have any subject. Was just trying to describe a process.
Oh okay so in that case no-self would be something like putting thought in it's "right place" by stopping the "identifiying with" process and instead being aware of the practical constructions thought makes without getting entangled?
Sounds interesting.. curious about your opinion concerning the so called "soul trap". Obviously there's a lot of suffering going on in this world.. the new age excuse about the world being a school sound offensive to me when thinking about a Palestinian child losing a leg for example after a bomb dropped. Are those new agers saying that child made the choice to experience that? I'm a skeptical person, so not saying I believe in the "soul trap".
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the experience of no-self isnt the final truth.the final truth is the realization of the Supreme Self in the beyond the beyond that is ajata...figure out what the word ajata means..
Non duality police hahahahahah
15:14 It’s still there…you’re talking about it. Why so concerned with other people? 🤔
were you hunted by a buzzard? 😅
YES 🥲🥲🥲
Ridiculous! Who experiences the no self... who is it that thinks this experience is profound?
The sense of self that’s getting triggered at the video 😉😉
@Davidmcdonald1 the Self is God and the Buddhists are either deluded or nihilistic. Take your pick. But they should do not care about anyone
You have to keep up with the topic to get it. People who keep up with celebrities think their break ups are profound. You won't get larping if you're on the outside haha
Do you mean, as in when someone has an opinion, they keep it to themselves or?
@Sorcerollo who is it that gets it? I guess you do not understand how moronic you sound
Why the glasses and watch?
You are playing your avatar and trapped in time...seems confused
Why not ? No specific uniform or apparence needed
@@marinejulien5949 what's the watch for?
Blah blah blah blah blah. Look back in a year and you’re gonna be embarrassed that you were trying so hard to be that guy. 😘
Replace your flesh not you😡
There is no experience when there is no self😂
Yourself is acting like it has no self who has a no self experience bro don’t fool yourself and others BECAUSE
There is ALREADY not a self nowhere it is already so
It seems like there is something within you that feels the need to police non dual language, could that be the sense of self your avoiding looking at while mentally preaching a radical no self doctrine?
I use the word experience because it’s the best (imperfect word) if I tried not to speak in dualistic language, I would speak in gibberish, or nothing at all.
There is already no self, but you most likely still have a feeling of self that is activated and operating all through your repressed emotions and reactions
@@Davidmcdonald1 i think youre talking about yourself right now because you feel that need to 😝
Its just whats happening bro relax no one is doing it there is no one here no one there RELAAAAAAX 😝🤣
@@mementomori5374 rather than having a meaningful discussion you resort to either sarcasm or deflection. Either you do experientially understand the no self and in that case it goes to show that even "enlightened" people can act totally unenlightened, or you're just trolling, having no actual experiential understanding and just repeating the non-dual dogma.
@@Beryl996 doesn’t matter life doesn’t give fuck and doesn’t discriminate
This is happening like it or not but its not directed towards anyone because there isn’t anyone
@@Davidmcdonald1 doesn’t matter don’t worry there is nothing in anybody you are just dreaming
Rambling nonsense, sorry
Bahia Sutra seems a lot like Radical non duality What do you think about it?
Bahia Sutra seems a lot like Radical non duality What do you think about it?